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13th Aug '17 5:25:36 AM Tharthan
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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance Values Dissonance or cultural change]]: where a writer doesn't recognise (or actively disagrees with) social changes they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind, or the failure to recognize that people of different cultures, political points of view, or backgrounds will see the story and characters in a different way then the writer intended.

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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance Values Dissonance or cultural change]]: where a writer doesn't recognise (or actively disagrees with) social changes they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind, or the failure to recognize that people of different cultures, political points of view, or backgrounds will see the story and characters in a different way then than the writer intended.
12th Aug '17 1:04:13 PM FretfulKennel
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Do not confuse this with an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation. A Misaimed Fandom fails to understand the author's intention for a character, no matter how {{Anvilicious}} it may have been; an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation understands the intended or default interpretation, but deliberately subverts it. Another related trope is RootingForTheEmpire, when you root for the villain without [[DracoInLeatherPants misinterpreting them as a good guy]].

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Do not confuse this with an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation. A Misaimed Fandom fails to understand the author's intention for a character, no matter how {{Anvilicious}} it may have been; an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation understands the intended or default interpretation, but deliberately subverts it. Another related trope is RootingForTheEmpire, when you root for the villain without [[DracoInLeatherPants misinterpreting them as a intended good guy]].
12th Aug '17 12:55:50 PM FretfulKennel
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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance cultural change]]: where a writer doesn't recognise (or actively disagrees with) social changes they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind.

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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance Values Dissonance or cultural change]]: where a writer doesn't recognise (or actively disagrees with) social changes they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind.
mind, or the failure to recognize that people of different cultures, political points of view, or backgrounds will see the story and characters in a different way then the writer intended.
12th Aug '17 11:52:08 AM FretfulKennel
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Only... it [[GoneHorriblyWrong doesn't quite work like that]]. Instead of seeing a loathsome, hateful figure, the audience sees a [[TheWoobie Woobie]] who only is the way he is because of his [[WellDoneSonGuy daddy issues]], and feel sorry for him instead of hating him... or even [[DracoInLeatherPants find him cute]]. They take the author's painstaking [[PoesLaw satire at face value]]. The CrapsackWorld the writer has created is somewhere they think is pretty awesome. They have, in the writer's view, missed the point: ignoring the subtext that the writer had thought was obvious in favor of the ''text'' -- and they really like the text.

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Only... it [[GoneHorriblyWrong doesn't quite work like that]]. Instead of seeing a loathsome, hateful figure, the audience sees a [[TheWoobie Woobie]] who only is the way he is because of his [[WellDoneSonGuy daddy issues]], and feel sorry for him instead of hating him... or even [[DracoInLeatherPants find him cute]]. They take the author's painstaking [[PoesLaw satire at face value]]. The CrapsackWorld the writer has created is somewhere they think is pretty awesome. They have, in the writer's view, missed the point: ignoring the subtext that the writer had thought was obvious in favor of the ''text'' -- and they really like the text.
text. The majority of time the readers realize what the writer intended, but simply disagree. After all, just because the writer loathes certain traits doesn't mean the reader will do so.
5th Aug '17 8:48:03 PM Tharthan
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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance cultural change]]: where a writer has fallen behind social changes they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind.

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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance cultural change]]: where a writer has fallen behind doesn't recognise (or actively disagrees with) social changes they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind.
5th Aug '17 8:45:44 PM Tharthan
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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance cultural change]]: where a writer has fallen behind social change they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind.

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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance cultural change]]: where a writer has fallen behind social change changes they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind.
5th Aug '17 8:44:21 PM Tharthan
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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance cultural change]]: where a writer [[SocietyMarchesOn has fallen behind social progress]] they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind.

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Sometimes Misaimed Fandom is a matter of [[ValuesDissonance cultural change]]: where a writer [[SocietyMarchesOn has fallen behind social progress]] change they may perceive Misaimed Fandom about their work as villains and heroes switch places in the popular mind.



And oh yeah, the inverse happens too. Sometimes people dislike something for playing cliches and tropes straight, when it's actually ''parodying'' or ''deconstructing'' them. See StealthParody.

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And oh yeah, the inverse happens too. Sometimes people dislike something for playing cliches clichés and tropes straight, when it's actually ''parodying'' or ''deconstructing'' them. See StealthParody.
28th Jul '17 9:23:06 AM MitchellProductions
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* UnfortunateImplications
28th Jul '17 1:38:18 AM Axelmania
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Of course, while fans are entitled to their own interpretation, that does not mean they are always right. The writer's original intention might not be the only valid interpretation, but it probably shouldn't be dismissed out of hand either; they're the ones actually putting their thoughts down and getting them published, after all. But this doesn't mean that fans have to worship at the writer's feet. Works have to stand by themselves and there is a limit to what authorial intent can change. Ultimately: when words and images clearly depict A, no WordOfGod can make it B. On the same note, though, and most importantly, if words and images clearly depict A and WordOfGod confirms A, the fans who swear up and down it was B make up the misaimed FanDumb.

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Of course, while fans are entitled to their own interpretation, that does not mean they are always right. The writer's original intention might not be the only valid interpretation, but it probably shouldn't be dismissed out of hand either; they're the ones actually putting their thoughts down and getting them published, after all. But this doesn't mean that fans have to worship at the writer's feet. Works have to stand by themselves and there is a limit to what authorial intent can change. Ultimately: when words and images clearly depict A, no WordOfGod can make it B. B.

On the same note, though, and most importantly, if words and images clearly [[OpinionMyopia clearly]] depict A and WordOfGod confirms A, the fans who swear up and down it was B make up the misaimed FanDumb.
25th Jan '17 7:55:08 AM DrBB
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The writer has a vision. He's created a character who represents everything he loathes, and have placed him in [[CrapsackWorld a setting that satirizes everything they hate about modern society]]. Bring on the MoralGuardians and {{Media Watchdog}}s; he's prepared for controversy!

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The writer has a vision. He's created a character who represents everything he loathes, and have has placed him in [[CrapsackWorld a setting that satirizes everything they hate about modern society]]. Bring on the MoralGuardians and {{Media Watchdog}}s; he's prepared for controversy!
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