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2nd Mar '16 11:03:59 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The Season 5 finale, through alternate BadFuture scenarios, shows exactly how feeble both these groups are. Without Twilight and Co, there was not a ''single'' threat from the seasons prior that either group could handle. The closest they came was in Sombra's future, where all of Equestria had to devote itself entirely to the war effort either as front line soldiers (including Princess Celestia) or support to ''just barely hold Sombra's forces off'', who were composed entirely of regular (albeit brainwashed) ponies. And it's implied this is the ''best'' of the horrific futures.

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** The Season 5 finale, through alternate BadFuture scenarios, shows exactly how feeble both these groups are. Without Twilight and Co, there was not a ''single'' threat from the seasons prior that either group could handle. The closest they came every timeline ultimately fell to some villain. Their ''best'' showing was in Sombra's future, where all of Equestria had to devote itself entirely to the war effort either as front line soldiers (including Princess Celestia) or support to ''just barely hold Sombra's forces off'', who were composed entirely of regular (albeit brainwashed) ponies. And it's implied this is the ''best'' of the horrific futures.ponies.
20th Feb '16 11:33:21 AM gophergiggles
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** Nobody expected the [[BodyguardingABadass Royal Guards]] to stand up against [[MadGod Nightmare Moon]], but even with warning of a potential attack and being fully mobilized and ready, they were subdued by the changeling army in about ten minutes. Contrast the six main characters, who, without [[VillainBeatingArtifact the Elements of Harmony]], took on hundred before finally [[ZergRush being grossly outnumbered]] and surrendering. And they couldn't handle [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking recovering Princess Celestia's pet bird]]. In the Season 4 premiere, where Princesses Celestia and Luna go missing, Princess Twilight Sparkle instructs the Guards to continue the search, only for Twilight and friends to find them themselves. Even their captain Shining Armor, despite being allegedly powerful, spends every major threat incapacitated and whose finest hour was ''throwing his exhausted to the point of collapse wife at the threat so she could deal with it instead''.

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** Nobody expected the [[BodyguardingABadass Royal Guards]] to stand up against [[MadGod Nightmare Moon]], but even with warning of a potential attack and being fully mobilized and ready, they were subdued by the changeling army in about ten minutes. Contrast the six main characters, who, without [[VillainBeatingArtifact the Elements of Harmony]], Harmony]] or formal training, and being ''caught off guard'', took on hundred down hundreds before finally [[ZergRush being grossly outnumbered]] and surrendering. And While it's largly PlayedForLaughs, they couldn't even handle [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking recovering Princess Celestia's pet bird]]. In the Season 4 premiere, where Princesses Celestia and Luna go missing, Princess Twilight Sparkle instructs the Guards to continue the search, only for Twilight and friends to find them themselves. Even their captain Shining Armor, despite being an allegedly powerful, powerful good leader, spends every major threat incapacitated and whose finest hour was ''throwing his exhausted to the point of collapse wife at the threat so she could deal with it instead''.
20th Feb '16 9:22:17 AM DeltaDart
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* The [[YanksWithTanks United States Army's]] controversial rules of engagement turn them into this today, with court-martials being issued for the most ridiculous of reasons. To accomplish objectives, the United States uses the Navy and the [[SemperFi Marine Corps]].

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* The [[YanksWithTanks United States Army's]] controversial rules of engagement turn them into this today, with court-martials being issued for the most ridiculous of reasons. To accomplish objectives, the United States uses the Navy and the [[SemperFi Marine Corps]].Corps]], who are allowed to [[KarmaHoudini get away with much more questionable actions]].
20th Feb '16 9:21:21 AM DeltaDart
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* The [[YanksWithTanks United States Army's]] controversial rules of engagement turn them into this today, with court-martials being issued for the most ridiculous of reasons. To accomplish objectives, the United States uses the Navy and the [[SemperFi Marine Corps]].
15th Feb '16 5:29:44 PM RevDave
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* In ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', the military is explicitly stated as being unable to stop the Chitauri invasion in New York City, even though the Chitauri soldiers and aircraft can be readily destroyed with modern weapons (notably, two of the Avengers are [[BadassNormal simply]] a spy with pistols and a guy with a bow and several varieties of TrickArrow, both of whom have no issue mowing down legions of the Chitauri). While the National Guard does arrive to fight the invaders, it falls to the Avengers to hold the line. The World Council quickly decides that the military can't win and decides to nuke NYC rather than risk the Chitauri breaking free.

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* In ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', two police offers learn that the military is explicitly stated as being unable too far away to stop respond in time to the Chitauri invasion in New York City, even though City. Notably, the Chitauri soldiers and small aircraft can ''can'' be readily destroyed with modern weapons (notably, two (two of the Avengers are [[BadassNormal simply]] a spy with pistols and a guy with a bow and]] [[TrickArrow trick arrows]]).
** There's some TruthInTelevision here: there's no military presence close to New York City,
and several varieties of TrickArrow, both of whom have no issue mowing down legions of the Chitauri). While NYPD are probably better equipped than the local National Guard does arrive to fight the invaders, it falls to the Avengers to hold the line. The World Council quickly decides that the military can't win and decides to nuke NYC rather than risk Guard. Also, Cap correctly notes the Chitauri breaking free.were being led by [[ItsAllAboutMe an egomaniac]] who was thinking about vengeance, not thinking tactically.
7th Feb '16 6:39:07 PM gophergiggles
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* In the ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series, the police, SWAT team, and even Umbrella's own anti-outbreak forces are swiftly and almost completely wiped out by the zombies in a matter of hours. However, as you find out over the course of [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil2 the second]] and [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilNemesis third]] games all three are fully justified: [[spoiler:the police and SWAT team were actively being sabotaged by both Umbrella and their own [[DirtyCop corrupt police chief]] who wanted to contain the virus and [[SerialKiller hunt the cops for sport]], respectively. Umbrella's own UBCS was intentionally sent in to serve as cannon fodder so a few select members of the teams could gather combat data and destroy the evidence.]]

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* In the ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series, the police, SWAT team, and even Umbrella's own anti-outbreak forces are swiftly and almost completely wiped out by the zombies in a matter of hours. However, as you find out over the course of [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil2 the second]] and [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilNemesis [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Nemesis third]] games all three are fully justified: [[spoiler:the police and SWAT team were actively being sabotaged by both Umbrella and their own [[DirtyCop corrupt police chief]] who wanted to contain the virus and [[SerialKiller hunt the cops for sport]], respectively. Umbrella's own UBCS was intentionally sent in to serve as cannon fodder so a few select members of the teams could gather combat data and destroy the evidence.]]
7th Feb '16 6:38:08 PM gophergiggles
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* In the ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series, the police, SWAT team, and even Umbrella's own anti-outbreak forces are swiftly and almost completely wiped out by the zombies in a matter of hours. However, as you find out over the course of [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil2 the second]] and [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilNemesis third]] games all three are fully justified: [[spoiler:the police and SWAT team were actively being sabotaged by both Umbrella and their own [[DirtyCop corrupt police chief]] who wanted to contain the virus and [[SerialKiller hunt the cops for sport]], respectively. Umbrella's own UBCS was intentionally sent in to serve as cannon fodder so a few select members of the teams could gather combat data and destroy the evidence.]]
19th Jan '16 1:06:58 PM dclark
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* The Austrian Army was called in to cull an out of control Emu population in 1932. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War The Emus won the first round]] and forced the army to withdraw.

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* The Austrian Australian Army was called in to cull an out of control Emu population in 1932. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War The Emus won the first round]] and forced the army to withdraw.
14th Jan '16 10:42:29 AM Khrunwahl02
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* The army in pretty much any ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' movie (with the sole exception of [[Film/{{Godzilla1998}} the 1998 film]], which annoyed long time fans). The first time can be excused as they had no idea what they're dealing with, but in every sequel Godzilla shows up and [[ShootingSuperman the army attacks do nothing to him]] and actually cause just as much, if not more, collateral damage. Even the damage caused by Godzilla himself can be blamed largely on the army as the films have pointed out shooting Godzilla just makes him even angrier and causes him to advance and attack.

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* The army in pretty much any ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' movie (with the sole exception of [[Film/{{Godzilla1998}} the 1998 film]], which annoyed long time fans). The first time can be excused as they had no idea what they're dealing with, but in every sequel Godzilla shows up and [[ShootingSuperman the army attacks do nothing to him]] and actually cause just as much, if not more, collateral damage. Even the damage caused by Godzilla himself can be blamed largely on the army as the films have pointed out since shooting Godzilla just makes him even angrier angry and causes him to advance and attack.



* The ACU (Asset Containment Unit) in the 2015 summer blockbuster ''{{Jurassic World}}'' suit this trope well as they failed to defeat, let alone survive, the Indominus Rex.

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* The ACU (Asset Containment Unit) in the 2015 summer blockbuster ''{{Jurassic World}}'' suit this trope well as they failed to defeat, let alone survive, avoid getting killed by, the Indominus Rex.
28th Dec '15 1:54:13 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The Royal Guards are beyond useless to almost tragic levels. Granted, nobody expected them to stand up against [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Nightmare Moon]], but even with warning of a potential attack and being fully mobilized and ready, they were subdued by Queen Chrysalis' changeling army in about ten minutes. On the other hoof, the six main characters, without weapons or [[VillainBeatingArtifact The Elements of Harmony]] or any kind of formal training, took down about a hundred of these guys practically effortlessly before finally being grossly outnumbered and surrendering. And they couldn't handle [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking recovering Princess Celestia's pet bird]]. It gets ''even worse'' in the Season 4 premiere, where both Princesses Celestia and Luna go missing, and then in-command Princess Twilight Sparkle instructs the Guards to continue the search. Of course, Twilight and friends end up finding Celestia and Luna themselves. Even their captain Shining Armor, despite being allegedly powerful, is a gender-flipped FauxActionGirl at best who spends every major threat incapacitated and whose [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment Of "Awesome"]] was ''throwing his exhausted to the point of collapse wife at the threat so she could deal with it instead''.
** The Wonderbolts have a similarly bad track record. Once again, nobody expected them to stand a chance against Tirek, but getting defeated by flying straight into a water tower that was nonchalantly held in their flight path by [[FanNickname Spikezilla]] certainly didn't win them any points, and failing to save a ''single falling pony'' as well as ultimately needing to be rescued themselves after the attempt was just ''sad''. With a horrible track record such as this, its a head scratcher why Rainbow Dash even wants to be one in the first place.
** The Season 5 finale, through alternate BadFuture scenarios, shows exactly how feeble both these groups are. Without Twilight and Co, there was not a ''single'' threat from the seasons prior that either group could handle. The closest they came was in Sombra's future, where all of Equestria had to devote itself entirely to the war effort either as front line soldiers (including Princess Celestia) or support to ''just barely hold Sombra's forces off'', who were composed entirely of regular (albeit brainwashed) ponies, and Twilight's dialogue implies this is the ''best'' of the horrific futures.

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** The Royal Guards are beyond useless to almost tragic levels. Granted, nobody ** Nobody expected them the [[BodyguardingABadass Royal Guards]] to stand up against [[SuperpoweredEvilSide [[MadGod Nightmare Moon]], but even with warning of a potential attack and being fully mobilized and ready, they were subdued by Queen Chrysalis' the changeling army in about ten minutes. On the other hoof, Contrast the six main characters, who, without weapons or [[VillainBeatingArtifact The the Elements of Harmony]] or any kind of formal training, Harmony]], took down about a on hundred of these guys practically effortlessly before finally [[ZergRush being grossly outnumbered outnumbered]] and surrendering. And they couldn't handle [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking recovering Princess Celestia's pet bird]]. It gets ''even worse'' in In the Season 4 premiere, where both Princesses Celestia and Luna go missing, and then in-command Princess Twilight Sparkle instructs the Guards to continue the search. Of course, search, only for Twilight and friends end up finding Celestia and Luna to find them themselves. Even their captain Shining Armor, despite being allegedly powerful, is a gender-flipped FauxActionGirl at best who spends every major threat incapacitated and whose [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment Of "Awesome"]] finest hour was ''throwing his exhausted to the point of collapse wife at the threat so she could deal with it instead''.
** The Wonderbolts have a similarly bad track record. Once again, nobody Nobody expected them to stand a chance against Tirek, but getting defeated by flying straight into a water tower that was nonchalantly held in their flight path by [[FanNickname Spikezilla]] certainly didn't win them any points, and failing to save a ''single falling pony'' as well as ultimately needing to be rescued themselves after the attempt was just ''sad''. With a horrible track record such as this, its a head scratcher why Rainbow Dash even wants to be one in the first place.
''sad''.
** The Season 5 finale, through alternate BadFuture scenarios, shows exactly how feeble both these groups are. Without Twilight and Co, there was not a ''single'' threat from the seasons prior that either group could handle. The closest they came was in Sombra's future, where all of Equestria had to devote itself entirely to the war effort either as front line soldiers (including Princess Celestia) or support to ''just barely hold Sombra's forces off'', who were composed entirely of regular (albeit brainwashed) ponies, and Twilight's dialogue implies ponies. And it's implied this is the ''best'' of the horrific futures.
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