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4th Dec '16 11:10:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* A lot of movies and shows with Buddhist monks tend to do this. ''Film/KillBill'', for example, establishes Pai Mei as being either well over 120 or more than a thousand years old, depending on whether you want to go by the original script (which states that Pai Mei was already a martial arts master in 1883), RealLife (where he was in 1647 if not earlier), or the actual film (where David Carradine [[ThrowItIn ad-libbed]] the line into "one double-aught three", or 1003). No explanation is given; it's implied that Pai Mei is just that {{badass}}.

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* A lot of movies and shows with Buddhist monks tend to do this. ''Film/KillBill'', for example, establishes Pai Mei as being either well over 120 or more than a thousand years old, depending on whether you want to go by the original script (which states that Pai Mei was already a martial arts master in 1883), RealLife (where he was in 1647 if not earlier), or the actual film (where David Carradine [[ThrowItIn ad-libbed]] the line into "one double-aught three", or 1003). No explanation is given; it's implied that Pai Mei is just that {{badass}}.badass.
16th Oct '16 6:09:45 PM nombretomado
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* In ''FireEmblemElibe'', Archsage Athos, Dark Sage Brammimond and the BigBad Nergal are all well over a thousand years old, justified by being among the most powerful magic users ever seen in that 'verse.

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* In ''FireEmblemElibe'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe'', Archsage Athos, Dark Sage Brammimond and the BigBad Nergal are all well over a thousand years old, justified by being among the most powerful magic users ever seen in that 'verse.
12th Oct '16 5:52:52 PM BrendanRizzo
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** However, a handful of modern scholars think that was a mistranlation and that years meant months. So while 969 months (Just under 81 years) is rather long for the time it's still within the human lifespan, but the problem with this is we have characters fathering children at 5 or 6 years of age. (The biggest problem here is, the Book of Genesis doesn't mention anything about these people except their names and ages; no details about how years were measured or what sort of calendar was used. Some Biblical scholars believe that the names and ages mean nothing at all, and were included to give the impression of a long period of time between Adam and Noah.)
** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121; depending on how you view this it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.

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** However, a handful of modern scholars think that was a mistranlation and that years meant months. So while 969 months (Just under 81 years) is rather long for the time it's still within the human lifespan, but the problem with this is we have characters fathering children at 5 or 6 years of age. (The biggest problem here is, the Book of Genesis doesn't mention anything about these people except their names and ages; no details about how years were measured or what sort of calendar was used. Some Biblical scholars believe that the names and ages mean nothing at all, and were included to give the impression of a long period of time between Adam and Noah. Another theory holds that the ages actually ''do'' have significance, but only so that there are exactly 4000 years separating creation from the Babylonian exile.)
** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121; 122; depending on how you view this it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.
17th Sep '16 11:50:54 AM redandready45
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* ''Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica'': In the film's AlternateHistory, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln lives to the year 1905, giving an interview about [[MyGreatestFailure his failure to stop the Confederacy]]. This would make him ''96'' years old when he died.
5th Sep '16 8:54:28 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* A staple of Myth/MesopotamianMythology. The first two dozen or so kings in the Sumerian King list have reigns that last anywhere between 100 and 43,200 years - the record being held by King En-men-lu-ana of Bad-tibira. Nobody seems to have had a normal-lasting reign until after [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]].
* In Myth/KoreanMythology, Dangun (legendary king and forefather of the Korean People) lived for staggering ''one thousand and thirty-eight years(the time varies for each record, but still over one thousand years)'', before becoming Sanshinryeong (god of the mountain). He is still being worshipped by Korean shamans, even to this day.
* [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Odysseus]]'s dog, said to have survived more than 20 years while sleeping on a dunghill in an era without veterinary care, is a non-human example.
* The TropeNamer:
** Methuselah from the [[Literature/TheBible biblical]] Literature/BookOfGenesis lives 969 years, longer than any human in the Bible. That said, ''most'' humans from before the flood have a given age of several centuries. After the flood, human lifespan gradually decreases to closer to what it is now. There are several figures after this point who are said to have lived just over one hundred, which is technically possible but still unlikely for an ancient Hebrew. In the books after the Pentateuch, which took place much closer to the time of the lives of their writers, people live somewhat more reasonable lifespans.
** However, a handful of modern scholars think that was a mistranlation and that years meant months. So while 969 months (Just under 81 years) is rather long for the time it's still within the human lifespan, but the problem with this is we have characters fathering children at 5 or 6 years of age. (The biggest problem here is, the Book of Genesis doesn't mention anything about these people except their names and ages; no details about how years were measured or what sort of calendar was used. Some Biblical scholars believe that the names and ages mean nothing at all, and were included to give the impression of a long period of time between Adam and Noah.)
** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121; depending on how you view this it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.
* Myth/{{Merlin}}, in most versions of the KingArthur mythos. Usually a JustifiedTrope in that Merlin is often the son of a virgin and an immortal demon, and a [[WizardsLiveLonger magician]].
* Hindu texts have old kings reigning for five hundred years and then merely giving up the throne and moving away, so we do not even know if they ever died!
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[[folder:Myths & Religion]]
* A staple of Myth/MesopotamianMythology. The first two dozen or so kings in the Sumerian King list have reigns that last anywhere between 100 and 43,200 years - the record being held by King En-men-lu-ana of Bad-tibira. Nobody seems to have had a normal-lasting reign until after [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]].
* In Myth/KoreanMythology, Dangun (legendary king and forefather of the Korean People) lived for staggering ''one thousand and thirty-eight years(the time varies for each record, but still over one thousand years)'', before becoming Sanshinryeong (god of the mountain). He is still being worshipped by Korean shamans, even to this day.
* [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Odysseus]]'s dog, said to have survived more than 20 years while sleeping on a dunghill in an era without veterinary care, is a non-human example.
* The TropeNamer:
** Methuselah from the [[Literature/TheBible biblical]] Literature/BookOfGenesis lives 969 years, longer than any human in the Bible. That said, ''most'' humans from before the flood have a given age of several centuries. After the flood, human lifespan gradually decreases to closer to what it is now. There are several figures after this point who are said to have lived just over one hundred, which is technically possible but still unlikely for an ancient Hebrew. In the books after the Pentateuch, which took place much closer to the time of the lives of their writers, people live somewhat more reasonable lifespans.
** However, a handful of modern scholars think that was a mistranlation and that years meant months. So while 969 months (Just under 81 years) is rather long for the time it's still within the human lifespan, but the problem with this is we have characters fathering children at 5 or 6 years of age. (The biggest problem here is, the Book of Genesis doesn't mention anything about these people except their names and ages; no details about how years were measured or what sort of calendar was used. Some Biblical scholars believe that the names and ages mean nothing at all, and were included to give the impression of a long period of time between Adam and Noah.)
** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121; depending on how you view this it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.
* Myth/{{Merlin}}, in most versions of the KingArthur mythos. Usually a JustifiedTrope in that Merlin is often the son of a virgin and an immortal demon, and a [[WizardsLiveLonger magician]].
* Hindu texts have old kings reigning for five hundred years and then merely giving up the throne and moving away, so we do not even know if they ever died!
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5th Sep '16 8:39:31 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10092339/1/Ranma-Saotome-Chi-Master Ranma Saotome, Chi Master]]'', Qiáng Wang is over three hundred years old.
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10th Jun '16 6:45:54 PM Doug86
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* Some monarchs are known to also be this, such as Queen Victoria for the UK and Emperor Franz Josef of Austria-Hungary. Coincidentally, his descendant Otto von Habsburg, had he ruled, would have given ''both'' of them a run for their money: born before UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, he died in 2011; if he had actually taken the throne in 1922 (when his father historically died, but after the abolition of the monarchy in Austria) and lived as long as he did (i.e. to 2011), he would have had an 89-year reign--the longest of any monarch in human history, with the possible exception of Egyptian Pharaoh Pepi II, mentioned below.

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* Some monarchs are known to also be this, such as Queen Victoria for the UK and Emperor Franz Josef of Austria-Hungary. Coincidentally, his descendant Otto von Habsburg, had he ruled, would have given ''both'' of them a run for their money: born before UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, he died in 2011; if he had actually taken the throne in 1922 (when his father historically died, but after the abolition of the monarchy in Austria) and lived as long as he did (i.e. to 2011), he would have had an 89-year reign--the longest of any monarch in human history, with the possible exception of Egyptian Pharaoh Pepi II, mentioned below.
1st Mar '16 10:17:58 AM MsChibi
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The tendency for ancient and fantasy settings to show humans having very long lifespans despite the lack of any established medical science. People will routinely live to a century or better while remaining lucid and active. Might or might not be explained as AWizardDidIt in the case of magical characters, or EnlightenmentSuperpowers for spiritual ones. Because in fiction age automatically equals wisdom rather than, say, the gradual death of brain cells, he frequently is an OldMaster or a [[{{Mentors}} mentor]]. (Of course, research on senility-due-to-age has been skewed by mental illnesses like Alzheimers; people without those diseases can do very well, but those diseases are all too common.)

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The tendency for ancient and fantasy settings to show humans having very [[LongLived long lifespans lifespans]] despite the lack of any established medical science. People will routinely live to a century or better while remaining lucid and active. Might or might not be explained as AWizardDidIt in the case of magical characters, or EnlightenmentSuperpowers for spiritual ones. Because in fiction age automatically equals wisdom rather than, say, the gradual death of brain cells, he frequently is an OldMaster or a [[{{Mentors}} mentor]]. (Of course, research on senility-due-to-age has been skewed by mental illnesses like Alzheimers; people without those diseases can do very well, but those diseases are all too common.)
28th Feb '16 11:32:32 AM MsChibi
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* In ''Anime/KyoKaraMaoh'', the residents of Shin Makokou live for a ''very'' long time. Wolfram, for example, is supposed to be 83, but looks (and frankly, acts) like he's no older than 16.
21st Jan '16 2:26:25 AM TARINunit9
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** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note that considering the world record for longest life is 121, this has been disproven, unless you go with the interpretation that he set the average maximum human lifespan, instead of the maximum.) long before the Great Flood.

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** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note that considering the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121, 121; depending on how you view this has been disproven, unless you go with the interpretation that he set the average maximum human lifespan, instead of the maximum.) it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.
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