History Main / MethuselahSyndrome

7th Mar '17 10:35:20 AM BeerBaron
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* The Telvanni grandmasters in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'' are extraordinarily old even for a species with an average lifespan around the neighborhood of 500 years. Ultimately Downplayed, as it's implied that they use various forms of magic (particularly necromancy) to reach those ages, and very few of the oldest ones are mentally stable anymore as a result.

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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind''
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The Telvanni grandmasters in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'' [[TheMagocracy Great House]] [[EvilSorcerer Telvanni]] grandmasters are extraordinarily old even for a species with [[LongLived an average lifespan around the neighborhood of 500 years.that is measured in centuries]]. Ultimately Downplayed, as it's implied that they use various forms of magic (particularly necromancy) to reach those ages, and very few of the oldest ones are mentally stable anymore as a result.



** Divayth Fyr is said to be nearly 4,000 years old by one of the female clones he made of himself (all of whom are at least in their hundreds themselves). Whether he's older than his Dwemer guest (who was a master craftsman when the Tribunal ascended some 3,000+ years ago) is up for debate.

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** Divayth Fyr is said to be nearly 4,000 years old by one of the [[OppositeSexClone female clones clones]] he made of himself (all of whom are at least in their hundreds themselves). Whether he's older than his Dwemer [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] guest (who was a master craftsman when the Tribunal ascended some 3,000+ years ago) is up for debate.
7th Mar '17 10:32:52 AM BeerBaron
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* The Telvanni grandmasters in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'' are extraordinarily old even for a species with an average lifespan around the neighborhood of 500 years.

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* The Telvanni grandmasters in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'' are extraordinarily old even for a species with an average lifespan around the neighborhood of 500 years. Ultimately Downplayed, as it's implied that they use various forms of magic (particularly necromancy) to reach those ages, and very few of the oldest ones are mentally stable anymore as a result.



** Divayth Fyr is said to be nearly 4,000 years old by one of the female clones he made of himself (all of whom are at least in their hundreds themselves). Whether he's older than his Dwemer guest (who was a master craftsman when the Tribunal ascended nearly 3,000 years ago) is up for debate.

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** Divayth Fyr is said to be nearly 4,000 years old by one of the female clones he made of himself (all of whom are at least in their hundreds themselves). Whether he's older than his Dwemer guest (who was a master craftsman when the Tribunal ascended nearly 3,000 some 3,000+ years ago) is up for debate.
4th Mar '17 2:32:18 PM costanton11
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** John Adams, the Founding Father and 2nd President of the U.S.A. lived to be 91. In the early 19th century, 91! He held the record of longest-lived president until the twentieth century, when Hoover tied him, and then Ford and Reagan surpassed him.

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** John Adams, the Founding Father and 2nd President of the U.S.A. lived to be 91. In the early 19th century, 91! He held the record of longest-lived president until the twentieth century, when Hoover tied him, and then Ford and Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush surpassed him.
2nd Feb '17 6:18:19 PM trulymadmoves
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** And if you think Armando Dippet was old, the oldest wizard on record, Barry Wee Willie Winkle, celebrated his ''755th'' birthday on August 14, 1991. He invited every witch and wizard he'd ever known, for a total for about 30 million! Ironically, he's actually lived longer than Nicholas Flamel ([[TheGhost who is known to exist by never makes an appearance]]) the legendary alchemist who invented the Elixir of Immortality!

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** And if you think Armando Dippet was old, the oldest wizard on record, The first film contained a FreezeFrameBonus newspaper article about Barry Wee Willie Winkle, celebrated a wizard who was celebrating his ''755th'' 755th birthday on August 14, 1991. He invited every witch and wizard he'd ever known, for a total for about inviting 30 million! Ironically, he's actually lived longer million wizards to the party. Needless to say, this was merely a ridiculous IfYouCanReadThis joke on the part of the art department, as this would make him substantially older than Nicholas Flamel ([[TheGhost who is known to exist by never makes an appearance]]) Flamel, whose 665-year lifespan was the legendary alchemist who invented result of the Elixir of Immortality!Life. Plus there probably aren't even that many wizards on the planet.
17th Jan '17 3:24:32 PM IvanColdtear
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** Also, while he's over a century old, he does think every so often that a hundred is too old for law enforcement work, has a few problems with his age, and tends to overuse magical health packs.

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** Also, while he's over a century old, he does think every so often that a hundred is too old for law enforcement work, has a few problems with his age, and tends to overuse magical health packs. Overall, his complaints seem similar to those of a 50-year-old officer in our world (just substitute prescription painkillers for magical health packs.)
4th Dec '16 11:10:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* A lot of movies and shows with Buddhist monks tend to do this. ''Film/KillBill'', for example, establishes Pai Mei as being either well over 120 or more than a thousand years old, depending on whether you want to go by the original script (which states that Pai Mei was already a martial arts master in 1883), RealLife (where he was in 1647 if not earlier), or the actual film (where David Carradine [[ThrowItIn ad-libbed]] the line into "one double-aught three", or 1003). No explanation is given; it's implied that Pai Mei is just that {{badass}}.

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* A lot of movies and shows with Buddhist monks tend to do this. ''Film/KillBill'', for example, establishes Pai Mei as being either well over 120 or more than a thousand years old, depending on whether you want to go by the original script (which states that Pai Mei was already a martial arts master in 1883), RealLife (where he was in 1647 if not earlier), or the actual film (where David Carradine [[ThrowItIn ad-libbed]] the line into "one double-aught three", or 1003). No explanation is given; it's implied that Pai Mei is just that {{badass}}.badass.
16th Oct '16 6:09:45 PM nombretomado
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* In ''FireEmblemElibe'', Archsage Athos, Dark Sage Brammimond and the BigBad Nergal are all well over a thousand years old, justified by being among the most powerful magic users ever seen in that 'verse.

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* In ''FireEmblemElibe'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe'', Archsage Athos, Dark Sage Brammimond and the BigBad Nergal are all well over a thousand years old, justified by being among the most powerful magic users ever seen in that 'verse.
12th Oct '16 5:52:52 PM BrendanRizzo
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** However, a handful of modern scholars think that was a mistranlation and that years meant months. So while 969 months (Just under 81 years) is rather long for the time it's still within the human lifespan, but the problem with this is we have characters fathering children at 5 or 6 years of age. (The biggest problem here is, the Book of Genesis doesn't mention anything about these people except their names and ages; no details about how years were measured or what sort of calendar was used. Some Biblical scholars believe that the names and ages mean nothing at all, and were included to give the impression of a long period of time between Adam and Noah.)
** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121; depending on how you view this it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.

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** However, a handful of modern scholars think that was a mistranlation and that years meant months. So while 969 months (Just under 81 years) is rather long for the time it's still within the human lifespan, but the problem with this is we have characters fathering children at 5 or 6 years of age. (The biggest problem here is, the Book of Genesis doesn't mention anything about these people except their names and ages; no details about how years were measured or what sort of calendar was used. Some Biblical scholars believe that the names and ages mean nothing at all, and were included to give the impression of a long period of time between Adam and Noah. Another theory holds that the ages actually ''do'' have significance, but only so that there are exactly 4000 years separating creation from the Babylonian exile.)
** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121; 122; depending on how you view this it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.
17th Sep '16 11:50:54 AM redandready45
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* ''Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica'': In the film's AlternateHistory, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln lives to the year 1905, giving an interview about [[MyGreatestFailure his failure to stop the Confederacy]]. This would make him ''96'' years old when he died.
5th Sep '16 8:54:28 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* A staple of Myth/MesopotamianMythology. The first two dozen or so kings in the Sumerian King list have reigns that last anywhere between 100 and 43,200 years - the record being held by King En-men-lu-ana of Bad-tibira. Nobody seems to have had a normal-lasting reign until after [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]].
* In Myth/KoreanMythology, Dangun (legendary king and forefather of the Korean People) lived for staggering ''one thousand and thirty-eight years(the time varies for each record, but still over one thousand years)'', before becoming Sanshinryeong (god of the mountain). He is still being worshipped by Korean shamans, even to this day.
* [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Odysseus]]'s dog, said to have survived more than 20 years while sleeping on a dunghill in an era without veterinary care, is a non-human example.
* The TropeNamer:
** Methuselah from the [[Literature/TheBible biblical]] Literature/BookOfGenesis lives 969 years, longer than any human in the Bible. That said, ''most'' humans from before the flood have a given age of several centuries. After the flood, human lifespan gradually decreases to closer to what it is now. There are several figures after this point who are said to have lived just over one hundred, which is technically possible but still unlikely for an ancient Hebrew. In the books after the Pentateuch, which took place much closer to the time of the lives of their writers, people live somewhat more reasonable lifespans.
** However, a handful of modern scholars think that was a mistranlation and that years meant months. So while 969 months (Just under 81 years) is rather long for the time it's still within the human lifespan, but the problem with this is we have characters fathering children at 5 or 6 years of age. (The biggest problem here is, the Book of Genesis doesn't mention anything about these people except their names and ages; no details about how years were measured or what sort of calendar was used. Some Biblical scholars believe that the names and ages mean nothing at all, and were included to give the impression of a long period of time between Adam and Noah.)
** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121; depending on how you view this it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.
* Myth/{{Merlin}}, in most versions of the KingArthur mythos. Usually a JustifiedTrope in that Merlin is often the son of a virgin and an immortal demon, and a [[WizardsLiveLonger magician]].
* Hindu texts have old kings reigning for five hundred years and then merely giving up the throne and moving away, so we do not even know if they ever died!
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* A staple of Myth/MesopotamianMythology. The first two dozen or so kings in the Sumerian King list have reigns that last anywhere between 100 and 43,200 years - the record being held by King En-men-lu-ana of Bad-tibira. Nobody seems to have had a normal-lasting reign until after [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]].
* In Myth/KoreanMythology, Dangun (legendary king and forefather of the Korean People) lived for staggering ''one thousand and thirty-eight years(the time varies for each record, but still over one thousand years)'', before becoming Sanshinryeong (god of the mountain). He is still being worshipped by Korean shamans, even to this day.
* [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Odysseus]]'s dog, said to have survived more than 20 years while sleeping on a dunghill in an era without veterinary care, is a non-human example.
* The TropeNamer:
** Methuselah from the [[Literature/TheBible biblical]] Literature/BookOfGenesis lives 969 years, longer than any human in the Bible. That said, ''most'' humans from before the flood have a given age of several centuries. After the flood, human lifespan gradually decreases to closer to what it is now. There are several figures after this point who are said to have lived just over one hundred, which is technically possible but still unlikely for an ancient Hebrew. In the books after the Pentateuch, which took place much closer to the time of the lives of their writers, people live somewhat more reasonable lifespans.
** However, a handful of modern scholars think that was a mistranlation and that years meant months. So while 969 months (Just under 81 years) is rather long for the time it's still within the human lifespan, but the problem with this is we have characters fathering children at 5 or 6 years of age. (The biggest problem here is, the Book of Genesis doesn't mention anything about these people except their names and ages; no details about how years were measured or what sort of calendar was used. Some Biblical scholars believe that the names and ages mean nothing at all, and were included to give the impression of a long period of time between Adam and Noah.)
** Another important thing to note is that some versions of the Bible claim that God one day decided that humans lived WAY too long, and decreed that they would live no more than 120 years from that day forward (note the current confirmed world record for longest life is 121; depending on how you view this it's either disproven or spot-on) long before the Great Flood.
* Myth/{{Merlin}}, in most versions of the KingArthur mythos. Usually a JustifiedTrope in that Merlin is often the son of a virgin and an immortal demon, and a [[WizardsLiveLonger magician]].
* Hindu texts have old kings reigning for five hundred years and then merely giving up the throne and moving away, so we do not even know if they ever died!
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