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30th Apr '16 9:17:46 PM MsChibi
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Compare YesExceptNo, DoubleSpeak, FalseReassurance, LoopholeAbuse, KeepingSecretsSucks, BothSidesHaveAPoint (or contrasting, depending on the circumstances), StealthPun, VisualPun.

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Compare YesExceptNo, DoubleSpeak, FalseReassurance, LoopholeAbuse, KeepingSecretsSucks, BothSidesHaveAPoint (or contrasting, depending on the circumstances), StealthPun, VisualPun.
VisualPun, PragmaticVillainy.
28th Apr '16 8:28:51 AM Grobi
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** While the Jedi Truth is an important plot point in the first game, the second game takes it to the point of {{deconstruction}} with Kreia and the rest of the Council; almost everything a player may think they know about the background of this game has to pass the litmus test of "but did I hear that from Kreia?". Similarly, Atton is often used as the writer's mouthpiece on that particular topic, but his word shouldn't be taken too seriously either [[spoiler: as he was once used to be a Sith torturer who willingly and enjoyed torturing Jedi to turn to the Dark Side.]]

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** While the Jedi Truth is an important plot point in the first game, [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords the second game game]] takes it to the point of {{deconstruction}} with Kreia and the rest of the Council; almost everything a player may think they know about the background of this game has to pass the litmus test of "but did I hear that from Kreia?".[[UnreliableExpositor Kreia]]?". Similarly, Atton is often used as the writer's mouthpiece on that particular topic, but his word shouldn't be taken too seriously either [[spoiler: as he was once used to be a Sith torturer who willingly and enjoyed torturing Jedi to turn to the Dark Side.]]



--> The King: Near as I can tell, [this building] was some sort of religious institution. Oh, I know it says "school" out front, but everything in here seems to be related to the worship of some guy from back in the day. People used to come here to learn about him, to dress like him, to move like him. To BE him. If that's not worship, I don't know what is.

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--> The King: ---> '''The King''': Near as I can tell, [this building] was some sort of religious institution. Oh, I know it says "school" out front, but everything in here seems to be related to the worship of some guy from back in the day. People used to come here to learn about him, to dress like him, to move like him. To BE him. If that's not worship, I don't know what is.
15th Apr '16 8:34:07 PM Fireblood
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* In the Middle Ages to early modern period, there was much debate over what, on a Catholic perspective, counted as lying. For instance, there was the story of a bishop of Alexandria fleeing persecution by the Romans, who didn't know his appearance. Coming upon him with his students, they asked where he had gone. The man told them back the way he had just come. Some defended this, since it was ''technically'' true.
15th Apr '16 8:29:02 PM Fireblood
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** Plus, that ignores the very first movie, in which Jigsaw lures Detective Sing into a hallway and into a shotgun trap, resulting in his death, which was preceded by a very straightforward attempt to murder Detective Tapp by by cutting his throat.

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** Plus, that ignores the very first movie, in which Jigsaw lures Detective Sing into a hallway and into a shotgun trap, resulting in his death, which was preceded by a very straightforward attempt to murder Detective Tapp by by cutting his throat.


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** In most jurisdictions of the US, any felony leading to a person's death can be charged as {{felony murder}} regardless of this.
9th Apr '16 4:31:47 PM Wyldchyld
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** In a flashback, a very young [[WellDoneSonGuy Uryuu]] asks his [[RetiredBadass father]] why he [[CursedWithAwesome hates]] being a [[ArcherArchetype quincy]] so much. [[HeroicNeutral Ryuuken]] replies there's no money in it. When Uryuu asks [[OldMaster Souken]] if Ryuuken's telling the truth, Souken [[OlderAndWiser mulls it over]] and then says that, if viewed from the angle that being a quincy doesn't put food on the table and Ryuuken has a son to look after, what Ryuuken said can indeed be viewed as the truth. Souken indicates that Ryuuken's actually [[BlatantLies lying through his teeth]] and when he realises Uryuu can't see that, goes on to tell Uryuu that [[YouAreNotReady one day]] he will understand Ryuuken's [[MysteriousPast secret]].

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** In a flashback, a very young [[WellDoneSonGuy Uryuu]] asks his [[RetiredBadass [[HeroicNeutral father]] why he [[CursedWithAwesome hates]] being a [[ArcherArchetype quincy]] so much. [[HeroicNeutral [[IJustWantToBeNormal Ryuuken]] replies there's no money in it. When Uryuu asks [[OldMaster Souken]] if Ryuuken's telling the truth, Souken [[OlderAndWiser mulls it over]] and then says that, if viewed from the angle that being a quincy doesn't put food on the table and Ryuuken has a son to look after, what Ryuuken said can indeed be viewed as the truth. Souken indicates that Ryuuken's actually [[BlatantLies lying through his teeth]] and when he realises Uryuu can't see that, goes on to tell Uryuu that [[YouAreNotReady one day]] he will understand Ryuuken's [[MysteriousPast secret]].
9th Apr '16 4:31:06 PM Wyldchyld
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** In a flashback, a very young [[WellDoneSonGuy Uryuu]] asks his [[RetiredBadass father]] why he [[CursedWithAwesome hates]] being a [[ArcherArchetype quincy]] so much. [[IJustWantToBeNormal Ryuuken]] replies there's no money in it. When Uryuu asks [[OldMaster Souken]] if Ryuuken's telling the truth, Souken [[OlderAndWiser mulls it over]] and then says that, if viewed from the angle that being a quincy doesn't put food on the table and Ryuuken has a son to look after, what Ryuuken said can indeed be viewed as the truth. Souken indicates that Ryuuken's actually [[BlatantLies lying through his teeth]] and when he realises Uryuu can't see that, goes on to tell Uryuu that [[YouAreNotReady one day]] he will understand Ryuuken's [[MysteriousPast secret]].

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** In a flashback, a very young [[WellDoneSonGuy Uryuu]] asks his [[RetiredBadass father]] why he [[CursedWithAwesome hates]] being a [[ArcherArchetype quincy]] so much. [[IJustWantToBeNormal [[HeroicNeutral Ryuuken]] replies there's no money in it. When Uryuu asks [[OldMaster Souken]] if Ryuuken's telling the truth, Souken [[OlderAndWiser mulls it over]] and then says that, if viewed from the angle that being a quincy doesn't put food on the table and Ryuuken has a son to look after, what Ryuuken said can indeed be viewed as the truth. Souken indicates that Ryuuken's actually [[BlatantLies lying through his teeth]] and when he realises Uryuu can't see that, goes on to tell Uryuu that [[YouAreNotReady one day]] he will understand Ryuuken's [[MysteriousPast secret]].
7th Apr '16 1:08:13 PM SSJMagus
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** As it turns out in the [[Literature/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineRelaunch relaunch]] novel ''[[Literature/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineAStitchInTime A Stitch in Time]]'', they actually were almost all true. Kinda.

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** As it turns out in the [[Literature/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineRelaunch relaunch]] novel ''[[Literature/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineAStitchInTime A Stitch in Time]]'', they actually were almost all true. Kinda. The book is written by Andrew J. Robinson, the actor who played Garak, and thus ''from a certain point of view'' it's Garak's autobiography



*** The trick is that in both these cases, Tuvok had a perfectly logical reason to lie. We might reasonably assume that most Vulcans would not lie, for example, to spare a friend's feelings, or get out of a tedious duty, and other species would remember those instances of honesty as unusual, even extreme.

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*** The trick is that in both these cases, Tuvok had a perfectly logical reason to lie. We might reasonably assume that most Vulcans would not lie, for example, to spare a friend's feelings, feelings (from the Vulcan perspective, allowing emotions to influence a decision is illogical), or get out of a tedious duty, duty (the duty needs to be done, so procrastination would be illogical), and other species would remember those instances of honesty as unusual, even extreme.
2nd Apr '16 9:08:33 PM Pinokio
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* ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'': "Fall from Grace" features the death of Matt Murdock. Actually, the ''[[ComicBook/TheInfinityGauntlet Infinity War]]'' doppelganger Hellspawn takes on Matt Murdock's form and dies. So it's like Matt Murdock died. Or something.
2nd Apr '16 5:12:38 PM Pinokio
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* ''Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}'': "Fall from Grace" features the death of Matt Murdock. Actually, the ''[[ComicBook/TheInfinityGauntlet Infinity War]]'' doppelganger Hellspawn takes on Matt Murdock's form and dies. So it's like Matt Murdock died. Or something.
28th Mar '16 12:37:19 PM DrFraud
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** In ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5775871/chapters/13467505 A Conversation with Raptors]]'' Tom Riddle states to Minister Fudge that the "insanity which was Voldemort" [[ThatManIsDead died during the resurrection ritual]].

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** In ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5775871/chapters/13467505 A Conversation with Raptors]]'' Tom Riddle states to Minister Fudge that the "insanity "the insanity which was Voldemort" [[ThatManIsDead died during the resurrection ritual]].
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