History Main / MedievalJapan

2nd Aug '14 5:18:14 AM SeptimusHeap
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Medieval Japan is now Hollywood Medieval Japan. Bad examples and ZCE are being removed.
[[quoteright:350:[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/xena_in_japan.jpg]]]] [[caption-width-right:350: What do you mean, [[ChainmailBikini it's unrealistic]]? She has a [[AllJapaneseSwordsAreKatanas katana]], doesn't she?]] In real history, Japan had many periods with their own distinct politics, mindsets, and manner of dress. But in [[HollywoodHistory Hollywood]], Japanese history is pretty much one long indistinct period filled with pagodas and geishas in strangely easy-to-remove kimonos, where {{Samurai}} and {{Ninja}} roamed the land chopping each other up with ''katana'' and ''shuriken'' at the slightest provocation. This is the land David Plath called [[http://www.columbia.edu/~hds2/learning/Learning_from_shogun_txt.pdf Jawpen]] -- "this place of which so many Westerners have ''jawed'' and ''penned''", a country "made up of traditional Japanese parts ... invented and assembled here in the West for domestic consumption." The {{anime}} portrayal is somewhat more accurate, but naturally, Japan has its own stereotypes about its past. For a look at native Japanese anime and live action film depictions of this era, see JidaiGeki. See also: AnachronismStew, HollywoodHistory. The fantasy equivalent is {{Wutai}}. ---- Popular tropes from this time period are: * {{Ninja}} * {{Samurai}} * {{Seppuku}} * YamatoNadeshiko ---- (Western) works that are set in this time period include: [[AC:{{Comic Books}}]] * ''UsagiYojimbo'' does this better than most -- Stan Sakai was born in Japan (though he moved to Hawaii at an early age), grew up watching [[JidaiGeki chanbara movies]] and his comments in the back of the comic book collections show that he has indeed done research, and [[ShownTheirWork it shows]]. [[AC:{{Film}}]] * ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIII: Turtles In Time'' ** For that matter, most ''TMNT'' episodes/issues that involve TimeTravel or the BackStory. * ''Film/TheLastSamurai'' is technically about the very end of this period. [[AC:{{Literature}}]] * ''[[Literature/AsianSaga Shogun]]'' [[AC:{{Theatre}}]] * Gilbert and Sullivan's ''Theatre/TheMikado'' ** Which was actually an intentional ''parody'' of the British aristocracy set in Japan. * ''Theatre/MadameButterfly'' ** Only with a very wide definition of ''medieval'' - it is set at late 19th or early 20th century, about the time it was written in. ---- <<|HollywoodHistory|>>
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[[quoteright:350:[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/xena_in_japan.jpg]]]] [[caption-width-right:350: What do you mean, [[ChainmailBikini it's unrealistic]]? She has a [[AllJapaneseSwordsAreKatanas katana]], doesn't she?]] In real history, Japan had many periods with their own distinct politics, mindsets, and manner of dress. But in [[HollywoodHistory Hollywood]], Japanese history is pretty much one long indistinct period filled with pagodas and geishas in strangely easy-to-remove kimonos, where {{Samurai}} and {{Ninja}} roamed the land chopping each other up with ''katana'' and ''shuriken'' at the slightest provocation. This is the land David Plath called [[http://www.columbia.edu/~hds2/learning/Learning_from_shogun_txt.pdf Jawpen]] -- "this place of which so many Westerners have ''jawed'' and ''penned''", a country "made up of traditional Japanese parts ... invented and assembled here in the West for domestic consumption." The {{anime}} portrayal is somewhat more accurate, but naturally, Japan has its own stereotypes about its past. For a look at native Japanese anime and live action film depictions of this era, see JidaiGeki. See also: AnachronismStew, HollywoodHistory. The fantasy equivalent is {{Wutai}}. ---- Popular tropes from this time period are: * {{Ninja}} * {{Samurai}} * {{Seppuku}} * YamatoNadeshiko ---- (Western) works that are set in this time period include: [[AC:{{Comic Books}}]] * ''UsagiYojimbo'' does this better than most -- Stan Sakai was born in Japan (though he moved to Hawaii at an early age), grew up watching [[JidaiGeki chanbara movies]] and his comments in the back of the comic book collections show that he has indeed done research, and [[ShownTheirWork it shows]]. [[AC:{{Film}}]] * ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIII: Turtles In Time'' ** For that matter, most ''TMNT'' episodes/issues that involve TimeTravel or the BackStory. * ''Film/TheLastSamurai'' is technically about the very end of this period. [[AC:{{Literature}}]] * ''[[Literature/AsianSaga Shogun]]'' [[AC:{{Theatre}}]] * Gilbert and Sullivan's ''Theatre/TheMikado'' ** Which was actually an intentional ''parody'' of the British aristocracy set in Japan. * ''Theatre/MadameButterfly'' ** Only with a very wide definition of ''medieval'' - it is set at late 19th or early 20th century, about the time it was written in. ---- <<|HollywoodHistory|>>[[redirect:HollywoodMedievalJapan]]
15th Mar '14 1:58:32 PM allium
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Chainmail Bikini
[[caption-width-right:350: What do you mean, it's unrealistic? She has a [[AllJapaneseSwordsAreKatanas katana]], doesn't she?]]
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[[caption-width-right:350: What do you mean, [[ChainmailBikini it's unrealistic? unrealistic]]? She has a [[AllJapaneseSwordsAreKatanas katana]], doesn't she?]]
15th Feb '14 1:12:18 AM erforce
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* ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles III: Turtles In Time''
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* ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles III: ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIII: Turtles In Time''
5th Feb '14 1:07:04 PM erforce
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* ''TheLastSamurai'' is technically about the very end of this period.
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* ''TheLastSamurai'' ''Film/TheLastSamurai'' is technically about the very end of this period.
30th Aug '13 4:00:30 AM DynamicDragon
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25th May '13 9:48:08 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Shogun}}''
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* ''{{Shogun}}'' ''[[Literature/AsianSaga Shogun]]''
3rd May '13 1:03:28 PM StFan
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[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/xena_in_japan.jpg]] [[caption-width:350: What do you mean, it's unrealistic? She has a [[AllJapaneseSwordsAreKatanas katana]], doesn't she?]]
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[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess [[quoteright:350:[[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/xena_in_japan.jpg]] [[caption-width:350: jpg]]]] [[caption-width-right:350: What do you mean, it's unrealistic? She has a [[AllJapaneseSwordsAreKatanas katana]], doesn't she?]]
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