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* ''WesternAnimation/TheMagicKey'': In "Code Calling", Wilf and Wilma find themselves transported to a version of ancient Mesoamerica that is very much like this.
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** ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'' has a literal example -- a statue on the Isthmus of Panama with Aztec, Incan, and Mayan influences in its design, commemorating trade across the isthmus.

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** ''Comicbook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'' ''ComicBook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck'' has a literal example -- a statue on the Isthmus of Panama with Aztec, Incan, and Mayan influences in its design, commemorating trade across the isthmus.



* BMovie ''Film/AztecRex''. Conquistadores led by Hernán Cortés meet Aztecs who worship two surviving Tyrannosaurus Rex. Houston Yeah!

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* BMovie ''Film/AztecRex''. Conquistadores led by Hernán Cortés meet Aztecs who worship two surviving Tyrannosaurus Rex.''Tyrannosaurus rex''. Houston Yeah!



* ''Film/KingsOfTheSun'', a film about a deposed Mayan king escaping to the future United States and meeting another native American tribe led by Yul Brynner.

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* ''Film/KingsOfTheSun'', a film about a deposed Mayan king escaping to the future United States and meeting another native American tribe led by Yul Brynner.Creator/YulBrynner.
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* {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries'': Beast and Jubilee are travelling around Peru, and come across an isolated tribe. Beast immediately notes that they are Mayan, not Inca, and about 3,000 miles south of where they should be.

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* {{Subverted|Trope}} in ''WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries'': Beast and Jubilee are travelling around Peru, and come across an isolated tribe. Beast [[CulturedBadass Beast]] immediately notes that they are Mayan, not Inca, and about 3,000 miles south of where they should be.



* Right in the Midwest, the Mississippian civilization had large urban centers, a powerful priestly class, warriors associated with birds (though they were falcons rather than eagles), giant pyramids (of mud, not stone), and human sacrifice. They collapsed in the 15th and 16th centuries for not entirely clear reasons (though the plagues brought from Europe that killed off [[AfterTheEnd more than 90%]] of pre-Columbian North Americans likely didn't help). From their ruins emerged the BornInTheSaddle nomads that most people associate with prehistoric North America (note that horses weren't introduced in America until the 16th century!).

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* Right in the Midwest, the Mississippian civilization had large urban centers, a powerful priestly class, warriors associated with birds (though they were falcons rather than eagles), giant pyramids (of mud, not stone), and human sacrifice. They collapsed in the 15th and 16th centuries for not entirely clear reasons (though the plagues brought from Europe that killed off [[AfterTheEnd more than 90%]] of pre-Columbian North Americans likely didn't help). From their ruins emerged the BornInTheSaddle nomads that most people associate with prehistoric North America (note that America's indigenous horse population went extinct, and horses weren't introduced in America reintroduced until the 16th century!).
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* During the Spanish conquest, many indigenous peoples allied with the Spanish re-settled in places far from their land of origin, like some Tlaxcalans in northern Mexico (and as far as New Mexico and Texas) and Nicaraguans in Peru. Tlaxcalans would end up composing the armies that [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfThePhilippines conquered Philippines]] and certain Mayan tribes.

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* During the Spanish conquest, many indigenous peoples allied with the Spanish re-settled in places far from their land of origin, like some Tlaxcalans in northern Mexico (and as far as New Mexico and Texas) and Nicaraguans in Peru. Tlaxcalans would end up partly composing the armies that [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfThePhilippines conquered the Philippines]] and certain Mayan tribes.



* The Huastecs are a Mayan people who migrated in ancient times along the Mexican Gulf coast, from the Yucatan to the modern Mexican state of Tamaulipas. The Aztecs conquered them around 1470 and were so impressed with their fighting that they copied the Huastec battle dress for one of their ranks.

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* The Huastecs are a Mayan people who migrated in ancient times along the Mexican Gulf coast, from the Yucatan to the modern Mexican state of Tamaulipas. The Aztecs conquered them around 1470 and [[WorthyOpponent were so impressed with their fighting fighting]] that they copied the Huastec battle dress for one of their ranks.



* If there's human sacrifice in pre-Columbian North America (the only case after Columbus being the Pawnee), it will most likely be attributed to Mesoamerican civilizations.

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* If there's human sacrifice in pre-Columbian North America (the only known case after Columbus being the Pawnee), it will most likely be attributed to Mesoamerican civilizations.
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* VirginSacrifice: In real life, men were usually the primary choice of sacrifice and virginity didn't factor into it. However, since European cultures find virgin sacrifices particularly abhorrent and dramatic, that's what Hollywood goes with.

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* VirginSacrifice: In real life, men were usually the primary choice of sacrifice and virginity didn't factor into it. However, since European cultures find virgin sacrifices particularly abhorrent and dramatic, that's what Hollywood goes with. [[note]]The Inca practice of ''Capacocha''/''Qhapaq hucha'' could arguably be called virgin sacrifice. It involved taking selected children or adolescents to a mountaintop, drugging them out and killing, sometimes simply by leaving them there to freeze to death. The fact that it is hardly as visually striking as ripping hearts out on bloody altars probably had some influence on why this practice is not as well known as the Aztec way. [[/note]]



* HungryJungle settings and an abundance of wildlife: [[SnakesAreSinister snakes]], macaws, [[SpidersAreScary spiders]], [[NeverSmileAtACrocodile alligators/crocodiles]], [[BatOutOfHell bats]], [[PantheraAwesome jaguars]] and monkeys. In case of Incas, llamas may pop up. May overlap with ArtisticLicenseGeography, as the Valley of Mexico is actually a temperate forest land, the nearby highlands of Hidalgo and Querétaro are a Mediterranean-like semidesert, and the Inca were a mountain-dwelling culture rather than a jungle-dwelling one.

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* HungryJungle settings and an abundance of wildlife: [[SnakesAreSinister snakes]], macaws, [[SpidersAreScary spiders]], [[NeverSmileAtACrocodile alligators/crocodiles]], [[BatOutOfHell bats]], [[PantheraAwesome jaguars]] and monkeys. In case of Incas, llamas and condors may pop up. May overlap with ArtisticLicenseGeography, as the Valley of Mexico is actually a temperate forest land, the nearby highlands of Hidalgo and Querétaro are a Mediterranean-like semidesert, and the Inca were a mountain-dwelling culture rather than a jungle-dwelling one.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' receive an Olmec head of Xtapolapocetl in one episode. It frequently reappears as a FreezeFrameBonus. In an aversion of this trope, when Maggie sees the head, she [[BrainyBaby points to a card saying Aztec]], and Lisa corrects her, saying "Not Aztec. Olmec. Ol-mec."

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receive an Olmec head of Xtapolapocetl in one episode. It frequently reappears as a FreezeFrameBonus. In an aversion of this trope, when Maggie sees the head, she [[BrainyBaby points to a card saying Aztec]], and Lisa corrects her, saying "Not Aztec. Olmec. Ol-mec."

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* ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl'' features cursed Aztec gold with Aztec-style skull carvings. The figure carved on the treasure chest itself is the "Gateway God" from the Gateway of the Sun at Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, hundreds of years and half a continent away from the Aztecs.
** The treasure's backstory being an Aztec ransom paid to Cortes and then Cortes going back on his word and being cursed for it is actually closer to the story of [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheIncaEmpire Pizarro, Atahualpa and the Room of Gold]] than anything that happened during the [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheAztecEmpire Conquest of the Aztec Empire]]. The Aztecs didn't even use gold as a currency. Cortes had a long, mostly prosperous life after conquering the Aztecs (other than being barred from returning to Mexico), while Pizarro's pals were marred by infighting and assassinations, including Pizarro's own.

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* ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl'' features cursed Aztec gold with Aztec-style skull carvings. The figure carved on the treasure chest itself is the "Gateway God" from the Gateway of the Sun at Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, hundreds of years and half a continent away from the Aztecs.
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Aztecs. The treasure's backstory being an Aztec ransom paid to Cortes and then Cortes going back on his word and being cursed for it is actually closer to the story of [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheIncaEmpire Pizarro, Atahualpa and the Room of Gold]] than anything that happened during the [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheAztecEmpire Conquest of the Aztec Empire]]. The Aztecs didn't even use gold as a currency. Cortes had a long, mostly prosperous life after conquering the Aztecs (other than being barred from returning to Mexico), while Pizarro's pals were marred by infighting and assassinations, including Pizarro's own.


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* ''WesternAnimation/AThousandAndOneAmericas'' [[DefiedTrope defies]] the trope in the episodes related to the Incan, Mayan or Aztec civilizations. Prior to reading a chapter about either of them in his late grandfather's book, Chris makes sure not to make erroneous assumptions about them (his brother Fito does, but that's simply because of his young age). The two read the book so they can learn the actual facts ([[ShownTheirWork and they sure do]]).
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* Similarly, DomesticatedDinosaurs may appear in a Mayincatec FantasyCounterpartCulture even if they are not LizardFolk (possibly inspired by the infamous hoax [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ica_stones Ica Stones]]).
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* In the movie ''Film/{{Unrest}}'' (2006) all the horrible events are due to the curse unleashed by an Aztec goddess, after a cave was discovered with 40,000 bodies sacrificed in his honor ... in Brazil, far from Mexico (and even the figure of 40,000 skeletons product of human sacrifice is too exaggerated even for the Aztecs).

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* In the movie ''Film/{{Unrest}}'' ''Film/{{Unrest|2006}}'' (2006) all the horrible events are due to the curse unleashed by an Aztec goddess, after a cave was discovered with 40,000 bodies sacrificed in his honor ... in Brazil, far from Mexico (and even the figure of 40,000 skeletons product of human sacrifice is too exaggerated even for the Aztecs).
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** "All That Glitters" revolves around an Incan CityOfGold in Peru.

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** "All That Glitters" revolves around an Incan CityOfGold in Peru. At the beginning of the episode, Gadget refers to an Andean folk band as a "mariachi" band, which would be Mexican, not Peruvian.
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Under HollywoodHistory, all historical UsefulNotes/PreColumbianCivilizations (ancient UsefulNotes/{{Mexic|o}}an, Central, and UsefulNotes/{{South America}}n nations) are lumped into one exotic and often barbaric people: the Mayincatec, featuring aspects of the Maya (in modern Yucatan peninsula and Central America), Inca (in modern UsefulNotes/{{Peru}}) and Aztec (in modern Central Mexico), plus many others (especially the Olmec, one of the oldest, as more continues to be discovered about them). It's a tossed salad of exciting bits from all their histories, with a topping of myth and fiction. And the dressing is [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]].

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Under HollywoodHistory, all historical UsefulNotes/PreColumbianCivilizations (ancient UsefulNotes/{{Mexic|o}}an, Central, and UsefulNotes/{{South America}}n nations) nations, before their [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheAztecEmpire conquests]] [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheMaya by the]] [[UsefulNotes/SpanishConquestOfTheIncaEmpire Spanish]]) are lumped into one exotic and often barbaric people: the Mayincatec, featuring aspects of the Maya (in modern Yucatan peninsula and Central America), Inca (in modern UsefulNotes/{{Peru}}) and Aztec (in modern Central Mexico), plus many others (especially the Olmec, one of the oldest, as more continues to be discovered about them). It's a tossed salad of exciting bits from all their histories, with a topping of myth and fiction. And the dressing is [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]].
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Under HollywoodHistory, all historical UsefulNotes/PreColumbianCivilizations (ancient UsefulNotes/{{Mexic|o}}an, Central, and UsefulNotes/{{South America}}n nations are lumped into one exotic and often barbaric people: the Mayincatec, featuring aspects of the Maya (in modern Yucatan peninsula and Central America), Inca (in modern UsefulNotes/{{Peru}}) and Aztec (in modern Central Mexico), plus many others (especially the Olmec, one of the oldest, as more continues to be discovered about them). It's a tossed salad of exciting bits from all their histories, with a topping of myth and fiction. And the dressing is [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]].

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Under HollywoodHistory, all historical UsefulNotes/PreColumbianCivilizations (ancient UsefulNotes/{{Mexic|o}}an, Central, and UsefulNotes/{{South America}}n nations nations) are lumped into one exotic and often barbaric people: the Mayincatec, featuring aspects of the Maya (in modern Yucatan peninsula and Central America), Inca (in modern UsefulNotes/{{Peru}}) and Aztec (in modern Central Mexico), plus many others (especially the Olmec, one of the oldest, as more continues to be discovered about them). It's a tossed salad of exciting bits from all their histories, with a topping of myth and fiction. And the dressing is [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]].
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Under HollywoodHistory, all historical ancient Mexican, Central, and South American nations are lumped into one exotic and often barbaric people: the Mayincatec, featuring aspects of the Maya (in modern Yucatan peninsula and Central America), Inca (in modern Peru) and Aztec (in modern Central Mexico), plus many others (especially the Olmec, one of the oldest, as more continues to be discovered about them). It's a tossed salad of exciting bits from all their histories, with a topping of myth and fiction. And the dressing is [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]].

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Under HollywoodHistory, all historical ancient Mexican, UsefulNotes/PreColumbianCivilizations (ancient UsefulNotes/{{Mexic|o}}an, Central, and South American UsefulNotes/{{South America}}n nations are lumped into one exotic and often barbaric people: the Mayincatec, featuring aspects of the Maya (in modern Yucatan peninsula and Central America), Inca (in modern Peru) UsefulNotes/{{Peru}}) and Aztec (in modern Central Mexico), plus many others (especially the Olmec, one of the oldest, as more continues to be discovered about them). It's a tossed salad of exciting bits from all their histories, with a topping of myth and fiction. And the dressing is [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]].
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Ironically, this trope only became more valid after the Spanish conquest of America, as the political unification of lands from modern Mexico to modern Chile only intensified cultural exchange. For instance, Náhuatl, the language original to the peoples of Central Mexico, is spoken today in remote locations where few to no Nahua people ever lived, as a consequence of the Spanish Empire adopting it as an official language in order to facilitate administration and evangelization. The development of large cities, divested of the previous political differences, also led to various indigenous groups resettling to the same population centers and suddenly becoming neighbors. The presence of native artists, translators and scholars in the imperial expansion also mixed things even more, with native cultures intentional or unintentionally influencing each other before meeting the western filter.

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Ironically, this trope only became more valid after the Spanish conquest of America, as the political unification of lands from modern Mexico to modern Chile only intensified cultural exchange. For instance, Náhuatl, the language original to the peoples of Central Mexico, is spoken today in remote locations where few to no Nahua people ever lived, as a consequence of the Spanish Empire adopting it as an official language in order to facilitate administration and evangelization. The development founding of large new cities, divested of the previous political differences, also led to various indigenous groups resettling to the same population centers and suddenly becoming neighbors.neighbors (sometimes [[GoKartingWithBowser after having been enemies up to that point]]). The presence of native artists, translators and scholars in the imperial expansion also mixed things even more, with native cultures intentional or unintentionally influencing each other before meeting the western filter.

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