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27th Feb '17 2:07:38 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* The Elven Kingdom in ''Literature/TheElfslayerChronicles'' is peaceful, has very little crime (they don't even have holding cells), is egalitarian enough to let their princess play with peasant children, is non-materialistic, accepting of homosexuality, and its people are great artisans.

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* The Elven Kingdom in ''Literature/TheElfslayerChronicles'' ''WebOriginal/TheElfslayerChronicles'' is peaceful, has very little crime (they don't even have holding cells), is egalitarian enough to let their princess play with peasant children, is non-materialistic, accepting of homosexuality, and its people are great artisans.
27th Feb '17 12:38:01 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* The Elven Kingdom in ''Literature/TheElfslayerChronicles'' is peaceful, has very little crime (they don't even have holding cells), is egalitarian enough to let their princess play with peasant children, is non-materialistic, accepting of homosexuality, and its people are great artisans.
9th Feb '17 3:04:20 AM Kadorhal
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* Deconstructed by the ''VideoGame/BioShock'' series; the societies you find yourself wandering through were founded upon a single core philosophy (objectivism in ''VideoGame/BioShock1'', an anti-objectivist credo of absolute altruism in ''VideoGame/BioShock2'', and American exceptionalism in ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'') and did indeed start off as Mary Suetopias. By the time YOU show up, though, the religious adherence of their citizens to these philosophies have brought to light a few minor flaws therein; flaws which have forced the cities' founders to [[HeWhoFightsMonsters become the monsters they fought]] (a cruel irony they're all too aware of), and have caused society to crumble into a state of violent anarchy, the exception being ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite''... [[FromBadToWorse where it's pretty clear the founders STARTED as monsters.]]

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* Deconstructed by the ''VideoGame/BioShock'' series; the societies you find yourself wandering through were founded upon a single core philosophy (objectivism in ''VideoGame/BioShock1'', an anti-objectivist credo of absolute altruism in ''VideoGame/BioShock2'', and American exceptionalism in ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'') and did indeed start off as Mary Suetopias. By the time YOU show up, though, the religious adherence of their citizens to these philosophies have brought to light a few minor flaws therein; flaws which have forced the cities' founders to [[HeWhoFightsMonsters become the monsters they fought]] (a cruel irony they're all too aware of), and have caused society to crumble into a state of violent anarchy, the anarchy. The exception being ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite''... [[FromBadToWorse to this is ''Infinite'', where it's pretty clear the founders STARTED ''[[FromBadToWorse started]]'' as monsters.]]
8th Feb '17 4:36:42 AM SuperFeatherYoshi
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** Which is really confusing, considering that in the show, Orb has no allies, no diplomacy, and a pathetically weak military compared to the other two superpowers. Because of all these, it was invaded and nearly destroyed ''twice''.
2nd Feb '17 9:18:57 PM Monsund
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* Ylisse is a deconstruction of this in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. It's a peaceful and pious nation, ruled by a kindhearted and wise young woman... but it only got there after the previous ruler basically ran the country into the ground through an endless war with Plegia (and it took Emmeryn YEARS to get things in order... and we're talking about [[AChildShallLeadThem a woman who became queen at age NINE]]), and the "peaceful" part comes to bite them in the ass early on, when Ylisse finds itself completely unable to resist a Plegian invasion without help from their battle-loving northern neighbors.

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* Ylisse is a deconstruction of this in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. It's a peaceful and pious nation, ruled by a kindhearted and wise young woman... but it only got there after the previous ruler basically ran the country into the ground through an endless war with the Grimleal in Plegia [[note]][[WellIntentionedExtremist for a good cause though]][[/note]] (and it took Emmeryn YEARS to get things in order... and we're talking about [[AChildShallLeadThem a woman who became queen at age NINE]]), and the "peaceful" part comes to bite them in the ass early on, when Ylisse finds itself completely unable to resist a Plegian invasion without help from their battle-loving northern neighbors.neighbors.
* Played straight for the most part in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' with the [[{{Wutai}} Kingdom of Hoshido]], a land so bountiful and filled with light that its neighbor, [[{{Mordor}} Nohr,]] repeatedly attacks in naked aggression without even bothering to ''ask'' for aid or alliance. The land is covered in a barrier that makes [[CareBearStare invaders lose all warmongering impulses]]. The former king and current queen are paragons of virtue, and the kingdom itself is always presented as being on the morally higher ground compared to Nohr, and this even carries over if you pick the ''Invisible Kingdom'' route in which you pick neither side. Whatever [[ALighterShadeOfGrey grayer]] spots of Hoshido are mentioned are either mentioned in passing ([[spoiler:Azura's kidnapping by Hoshidan shinobi and experiencing severe racism while growing up there; despite this, even she tries to initially convince the Avatar to side with Hoshido]]) or handwaved entirely ([[spoiler:Takumi shooting Elise with an arrow on the Nohr route and Ryoma threatening to let her die if the Avatar doesn't return]]; the Avatar completely lets it slide). The biggest flaw that Hoshido has is the prejudice that many citizens feel against Nohrians, but as this hatred derives entirely from Nohr's unprovoked evil actions many players feel that this attempt at moral balancing falls flat. In fact, there's not a single named Hoshidan character that the game presents as a bad person, even when you're fighting against Hoshido!
12th Jan '17 3:05:15 PM roxana
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*** In fact Literature/StarshipTroopers is NOT a 'military democracy' at all but a Democracy in which the right to vote is earned by the equivalent of 'National Service' that may nor may not be military in nature. Such service is completely voluntary but if you ''do'' volunteer you ''must'' be accepted and the system must find or create a job for you to do. You can also resign at any time, the only penalty being you don't get a second chance to earn your franchise. Nobody can either vote or stand for office until after they have retired from their service whatever it is.
20th Dec '16 6:53:37 PM Rhodes7
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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' is presented this way, as a return to and refinement of traditional American life. Technology after the 1930s is informally, but powerfully banned, yet it is a leader in cold fusion and tesla tech, with technology that can disable explosives and firearms at a distance. In particular, computers, television, and cars that can drive more than thirty miles. Black people are banned from raising families in cities, and can be hung for any violent or drug-related crime. Non-Christians are banished, liberal college professors are no more, turn back the clocks on feminism and LGBT-issues and truly remove the federal government. All of this is portrayed as unambiguously good things.
15th Dec '16 3:49:52 AM TheCuza
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* Towards the end of the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Goobacks," everyone decides to act responsibly to make the future a better place so that people don't have to timegrate back to their time and take their jobs anymore. It works, just like that, and the town is shown becoming a Mary-Suetopia... until the characters realise that "this is really gay" and go back to their old ways.

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* Towards the end of the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Goobacks," everyone decides to act responsibly to make the future a better place so that people don't have to timegrate back to their time and take their jobs anymore. It works, just like that, and the town is shown becoming a Mary-Suetopia... until the characters realise that "this is really gay" and go back to their old ways.previous plan where all the men have gay sex in a big pile (because even that is still less gay than what they were currently doing).
30th Oct '16 6:09:20 PM SaraJaye
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* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' has the [[{{Wutai}} Kingdom of Hoshido]]. It is portrayed as a place of great beauty, peace, and prosperity, with a kind and gentle queen leading it, and the people there live comfortable lives. There are less savory aspects of the kingdom, such as the FantasticRacism directed at Azura, but for the most part it's portrayed as a kingdom full of good-natured people.
12th Oct '16 7:16:46 PM WillBGood
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* ''DancesWithWolves'''s merry Sioux are a GaryStu-topia. They're communists, [[FanDisservice have no sexual hangups]], and the sheer amount of male solidarity, while reflecting traditions, is taken to extremes, though ''not'' to the extreme of misogyny. They're also completely friendly to anyone, even the white men trying to kill them, as contrasted with the AlwaysChaoticEvil Pawnee, who even attack their white ''allies''.

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* ''DancesWithWolves'''s [[IncrediblyLamePun merry Sioux Sioux]] are a GaryStu-topia. They're communists, [[FanDisservice have no sexual hangups]], and the sheer amount of male solidarity, while reflecting traditions, is taken to extremes, though ''not'' to the extreme of misogyny. They're also completely friendly to anyone, even the white men trying to kill them, as contrasted with the AlwaysChaoticEvil Pawnee, who even attack their white ''allies''.



** There's also the point that ''no one can ever leave'', making sort of an enforced utopia. The island is completely surrounded by an Eternal Storm, making it impossible to even communicate with the outside world. Fine if you've got nothing left behind. Not so fine if you had any loved one's that were relying on you to support them. Yet no-one ever seems to think of this or mind. Even the one rebellious human, Lee Crabb, just wants out for no reason beyond disliking dinosaurs. Well, that and the enforced vegetarianism since every single living thing on the island is inexplicably sentient.

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** There's also the point that ''no one can ever leave'', making sort of an enforced utopia. The island is completely surrounded by an Eternal Storm, making it impossible to even communicate with the outside world. Fine if you've got nothing left behind. Not so fine if you had any loved one's ones that were relying on you to support them. Yet no-one ever seems to think of this or mind. Even the one rebellious human, Lee Crabb, just wants out for no reason beyond disliking dinosaurs. Well, that and the enforced vegetarianism since every single living thing on the island is inexplicably sentient.
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