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1st Jul '17 12:30:38 AM KaiYves
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** In order to afford all of these cool toys, travel to glamorous locations, and otherwise generally live the high life, he may be a member of the Fiction500.
31st May '17 6:48:00 AM LondonKdS
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* CoolGuns, RareGuns, {{Cool Sword}}s, {{Improbably Cool Car}}s... The Marty Stu will usually travel in and/or fight with something '''WAY COOL''', and the writer will not let the reader get away without understanding '''just how cool''' it is. Basically, if female Mary Sue writers go overboard about making sure that the reader knows how [[CostumePorn crazy, gorgeous and revealing]] each of their character's one-per-chapter new costumes is, male Marty Stu writers will do the same about the [[GunPorn exact model]] of [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolver]] he uses and what [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells cartridges]] he puts in it to kill what kind of monster, or [[TechnologyPorn precisely how]] he souped his Jaguar E-Type V12 up to 500bhp.

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* CoolGuns, RareGuns, {{Cool Sword}}s, {{Improbably Cool Car}}s...HerosClassicCar... The Marty Stu will usually travel in and/or fight with something '''WAY COOL''', and the writer will not let the reader get away without understanding '''just how cool''' it is. Basically, if female Mary Sue writers go overboard about making sure that the reader knows how [[CostumePorn crazy, gorgeous and revealing]] each of their character's one-per-chapter new costumes is, male Marty Stu writers will do the same about the [[GunPorn exact model]] of [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolver]] he uses and what [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells cartridges]] he puts in it to kill what kind of monster, or [[TechnologyPorn precisely how]] he souped his Jaguar E-Type V12 up to 500bhp.
15th Jan '17 1:31:55 AM SpuriousAlcelaphine
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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "Gary Stu" or "Larry St" (for those who prefer {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing to [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".

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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "Gary Stu" or "Larry St" Stu" (for those who prefer {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing to [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".
1st Jan '17 7:05:22 AM CyberController
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* '''{{Informed|Attribute}} {{Anti S|ue}}tu''': This Stu is [[AntiSue disadvantaged by society, magic, techonology or any other factor owning to certain attributes that make him weak and disadvantaged]]...''[[BlatantLies except none of those weaknesses ever come into play]]'', while any or all of the "positive" elements of the above Stu archetypes continue to apply in the context of the story.

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* '''{{Informed|Attribute}} {{Anti S|ue}}tu''': This Stu is [[AntiSue disadvantaged by society, magic, techonology technology or any other factor owning to certain attributes that make him weak and disadvantaged]]...''[[BlatantLies except none of those weaknesses ever come into play]]'', while any or all of the "positive" elements of the above Stu archetypes continue to apply in the context of the story.
19th Dec '16 2:32:57 PM Discar
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Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld virtues (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and [[AManIsNotAVirgin heterosexual promiscuity]]). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers - for analogous but different reasons - tend to like such characters.

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Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld virtues (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and [[AManIsNotAVirgin heterosexual promiscuity]]).promiscuity). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers - for analogous but different reasons - tend to like such characters.



Marty also generally [[AManIsNotAVirgin doesn't have the sort of purity]] common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the DarkerAndEdgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to show that she's a brave survivor, Marty uses it for the sake of prolonged [[{{Mangst}} brooding]]. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to tragic superheroes like ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' ([[CanonSue who often provide examples of Marty Stu themselves in the hands of certain writers]]), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.

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Marty also generally [[AManIsNotAVirgin doesn't have the sort of purity]] purity common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the DarkerAndEdgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to show that she's a brave survivor, Marty uses it for the sake of prolonged [[{{Mangst}} brooding]]. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to tragic superheroes like ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' ([[CanonSue who often provide examples of Marty Stu themselves in the hands of certain writers]]), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.



* If written by a man, he will have had [[AManIsNotAVirgin Lots of sex]] [[TheCasanova with lots of women]] to prove his sexual virility. If he's written by a girl, he may be a virgin, proving that he's deeply sensitive and dedicated. Either way, the sex he dishes out will be the best ever.

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* If written by a man, he will have had [[AManIsNotAVirgin [[LemonStu Lots of sex]] [[TheCasanova with lots of women]] to prove his sexual virility. If he's written by a girl, he may be a virgin, proving that he's deeply sensitive and dedicated. Either way, the sex he dishes out will be the best ever.
10th Dec '16 11:53:45 AM MartineBrooke
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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "Gary Stu" or "Larry St" (for those who prefer {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing}} to [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".

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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "Gary Stu" or "Larry St" (for those who prefer {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing}} {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing to [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".
24th Nov '16 5:18:11 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "''Gary'' Stu" or "''Larry Stu''" (for those who prefer rhyming to alliteration and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".

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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "''Gary'' "Gary Stu" or "''Larry Stu''" "Larry St" (for those who prefer rhyming {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing}} to alliteration [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".



MartyStu, however, is usually restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu is the personification of action, action and more action. Or, if he is of an intellectual bent, he thinks his way through problems, inventing whole new branches of science and technology in the process, and in some cases, the character is often portrayed as personification of both, completing missions as both the brains and the brawn taking up the roles usually shared among the main character and a team or a partner. In contrast to Mary Sue who has been freed to play an active and/or passive role, Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. When he does, it is almost exclusively the territory of [[{{Wimpification}} wimpified]] {{Possession Sue}}s in {{Slash|Fic}}.

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MartyStu, however, is usually restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu is the personification of action, action and more action. Or, if he is of an intellectual bent, he [[AwesomenessByAnalysis thinks his way through problems, problems]], inventing whole new branches of science and technology in the process, and in some cases, the character is often portrayed as personification of both, completing missions as both the brains and the brawn taking up the roles usually shared among the main character and a team or a partner. In contrast to Mary Sue who has been freed to play an active and/or passive role, Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. When he does, it is almost exclusively the territory of [[{{Wimpification}} wimpified]] {{Possession Sue}}s in {{Slash|Fic}}.



Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld virtues (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and [[AManIsNotAVirgin heterosexual promiscuity]]). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers- for analogous but different reasons- tend to like such characters.

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Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld virtues (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and [[AManIsNotAVirgin heterosexual promiscuity]]). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers- writers - for analogous but different reasons- reasons - tend to like such characters.



'''''Common Marty Stu Traits'''''

As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (ala GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]'', faster than ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.

Marty also generally [[AManIsNotAVirgin doesn't have the sort of purity]] common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the DarkerAndEdgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to show that she's a brave survivor, Marty uses it for the sake of prolonged [[{{Mangst}} brooding]]. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to tragic superheroes like ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' (who often provide examples of Marty Stu themselves in the hands of certain writers), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.

Obviously, neither of these traits are exclusive to Marty. There exist plenty of {{God Mode| Sue}} and {{Sympathetic Sue}}s, but in sheer percentage, it's more common on Marty. Since AllGirlsWantBadBoys, after all, increasing the badass potential of a character has the secondary effect of making him more attractive to women without having to sacrifice any capability. Sometimes, this attitude goes just a little too far and creates JerkSue.

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'''''Common !Common Marty Stu Traits'''''

Traits
As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (ala (a la GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]'', faster than ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.

Marty also generally [[AManIsNotAVirgin doesn't have the sort of purity]] common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the DarkerAndEdgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to show that she's a brave survivor, Marty uses it for the sake of prolonged [[{{Mangst}} brooding]]. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to tragic superheroes like ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' (who ([[CanonSue who often provide examples of Marty Stu themselves in the hands of certain writers), writers]]), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.

Obviously, neither of these traits are exclusive to Marty. There exist plenty of {{God Mode| Sue}} Mode|Sue}} and {{Sympathetic Sue}}s, S|ue}}tus, but in sheer percentage, it's more common on Marty. Since AllGirlsWantBadBoys, after all, increasing the badass potential of a character has the secondary effect of making him more attractive to women without having to sacrifice any capability. Sometimes, this attitude goes just a little too far and creates JerkSue.



* He has an [[eyepatch]] because nothing says bad-ass like missing an eye and still being the most capable guy around. Also, because [[pirates]] are cool.
* He's [[bionic] because of some terrible accident where he was rescuing somebody or doing something else heroic.

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* He has an [[eyepatch]] {{eyepatch|OfPower}} because nothing says bad-ass like missing an eye and still being the most capable guy around. Also, because [[pirates]] {{pirate}}s are cool.
* He's [[bionic] He has a bionic limb because of some terrible accident where he was rescuing somebody or doing something else heroic.



** Alt. Nanes: Perfect Hero Syndrome, Mr. Good Guy, Messianic Stu (in works where he takes on Christ-like qualities, not that uncommon,) Buddah-Like Stu (in works where he takes on Buddah-like qualities, also not that uncommon,) [[Myth/KingArthur The Galahad]] (in works featuring chivary as in Arthurian legend).
* '''[[BlackHoleSue Black Hole Stu]]''': His gravity is so great, he draws all the attention and causes other characters (and, often, reality itself) to bend and contort in order to accommodate him and elevate him above all other characters. Characters don't act naturally around him - guys wish to emulate him and [[ChickMagnet all the girls flock to him regardless of circumstances]]. They serve as plot enablers for him to display his powers or abilities, with dialogue that only acts as set-ups for his response. He dominates every scene he is in, with most scenes without him serving only to give the characters a chance to "talk freely" about him - [[CreatorsPet this usually translates to unambiguous praise]] and [[ShowDontTell exposition about how great he is]]. Most people don't oppose him and anybody who does will [[EasyEvangelism either realize their fault in doing so or just prove easy to overcome.]] Often a combination of the above Stu archetypes.
* '''[[InformedAttribute Informed]] AntiSue''': This Stu is [[AntiSue disadvantaged by society, magic, techonology or any other factor owning to certain attributes that make him weak and disadvantaged]]...''[[BlatantLies except none of those weaknesses ever come into play]]'', while any or all of the "positive" elements of the above Stu archetypes continue to apply in the context of the story.

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** Alt. Nanes: Names: Perfect Hero Syndrome, Mr. Good Guy, Messianic Stu (in works where he takes on Christ-like qualities, not that uncommon,) Buddah-Like Stu (in works where he takes on Buddah-like qualities, also not that uncommon,) [[Myth/KingArthur The Galahad]] (in works featuring chivary as in Arthurian legend).
* '''[[BlackHoleSue Black '''{{Black Hole Stu]]''': S|ue}}tu''': His gravity is so great, he draws all the attention and causes other characters (and, often, reality itself) to bend and contort in order to accommodate him and elevate him above all other characters. Characters don't act naturally around him - guys wish to emulate him and [[ChickMagnet all the girls flock to him regardless of circumstances]]. They serve as plot enablers for him to display his powers or abilities, with dialogue that only acts as set-ups for his response. He dominates every scene he is in, with most scenes without him serving only to give the characters a chance to "talk freely" about him - [[CreatorsPet this usually translates to unambiguous praise]] and [[ShowDontTell exposition about how great he is]]. Most people don't oppose him and anybody who does will [[EasyEvangelism either realize their fault in doing so or just prove easy to overcome.]] Often a combination of the above Stu archetypes.
* '''[[InformedAttribute Informed]] AntiSue''': '''{{Informed|Attribute}} {{Anti S|ue}}tu''': This Stu is [[AntiSue disadvantaged by society, magic, techonology or any other factor owning to certain attributes that make him weak and disadvantaged]]...''[[BlatantLies except none of those weaknesses ever come into play]]'', while any or all of the "positive" elements of the above Stu archetypes continue to apply in the context of the story.
7th Nov '16 6:38:46 AM Argon2
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Once upon a time, Mary Sue didn't really ''do'' very much, because [[StayInTheKitchen a woman who took an active role in dramatic events was unwomanly]] and, by definition, not perfect. So Mary Sue mostly radiated a soft glow of [[PuritySue purity and beauty]] into the narrative around her, was inexplicably popular, and had people fall in love with her a lot. And this side of her lineage still shows, even as [[SocietyMarchesOn changes in society]] have allowed women to [[ActionGirl get their]] [[KatanasAreJustBetter katanas]] [[ActionGirl out and fly and so forth.]]

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Once upon a time, In the past, Mary Sue didn't really ''do'' very much, because [[StayInTheKitchen a woman who took an active role in dramatic events was unwomanly]] and, by definition, not perfect. So Mary Sue mostly radiated a soft glow of [[PuritySue purity and beauty]] into the narrative around her, was inexplicably popular, and had people fall in love with her a lot. And this side of her lineage still shows, even as [[SocietyMarchesOn changes in society]] have allowed women to [[ActionGirl get their]] [[KatanasAreJustBetter katanas]] [[ActionGirl out and fly and so forth.]]



Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. It was almost as if male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld stereotypically male virtues such as toughness, courage, and [[AManIsNotAVirgin heterosexual promiscuity]]. And while men have finally begun to demand more realistic protagonists, making Marty Stu somewhat less acceptable it is still clear that Marty Stus still get passes far more frequently than Mary Sues resulting in quite a fair number of [[CanonSue male canon sues]] who conversely are praised rather than criticized. Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers for analogous but different reasons tend to like such characters.

See also TheAce, which is usually made as a nod to the less realistic male characters of old and plays it as a supporting character for comedic purposes.

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Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. It was almost as if male Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld stereotypically male virtues such as (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and [[AManIsNotAVirgin heterosexual promiscuity]]. And while men have finally begun to demand more realistic protagonists, making Marty Stu somewhat less acceptable it is still clear that Marty Stus still get passes far more frequently than Mary Sues resulting in quite a fair number of [[CanonSue male canon sues]] who conversely are praised rather than criticized.promiscuity]]). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers writers- for analogous but different reasons reasons- tend to like such characters.

See also TheAce, which is usually made often uses this trope as a nod to the less realistic male characters of old and plays it as a supporting minor character for comedic purposes.
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29th Jul '16 9:06:42 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (ala GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk'', faster than ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.

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As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (ala GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk'', ''[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]'', faster than ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.
29th Jul '16 9:05:35 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (ala GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''TheIncredibleHulk'', faster than ''SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.

Marty also generally [[AManIsNotAVirgin doesn't have the sort of purity]] common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the DarkerAndEdgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to show that she's a brave survivor, Marty uses it for the sake of prolonged [[{{Mangst}} brooding]]. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to tragic superheroes like ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''{{Wolverine}}'' (who often provide examples of Marty Stu themselves), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.

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As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (ala GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''TheIncredibleHulk'', ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk'', faster than ''SonicTheHedgehog'', ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.

Marty also generally [[AManIsNotAVirgin doesn't have the sort of purity]] common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the DarkerAndEdgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to show that she's a brave survivor, Marty uses it for the sake of prolonged [[{{Mangst}} brooding]]. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to tragic superheroes like ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''{{Wolverine}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' (who often provide examples of Marty Stu themselves), themselves in the hands of certain writers), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.
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