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19th Jun '18 2:03:34 PM Wynauttica
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He has usually been (and still mostly is) restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu, in contrast to Mary Sue who is has recently been able to take [[ActionGirl more active roles]], is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. However, as times have changed, Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his softer side, and beautiful, passive male {{Possession Sue}}s are not uncommon in {{Slash|Fic}} fiction.

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He has usually been (and still mostly is) restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu, in contrast to Mary Sue who is has recently been able to take [[ActionGirl more active roles]], is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. However, as times have changed, Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his softer side, and beautiful, passive male {{Possession Sue}}s are not uncommon in {{Slash|Fic}} fiction.
1st Jun '18 9:59:59 AM Clanger00
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He has usually been (and still mostly is) restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu, in contrast to Mary Sue who is has recently been able to take [[ActionGirl more active roles]], Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. However, as times have changed, Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his softer side, and beautiful, passive male {{Possession Sue}}s are not uncommon in {{Slash|Fic}} fiction.

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He has usually been (and still mostly is) restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu, in contrast to Mary Sue who is has recently been able to take [[ActionGirl more active roles]], Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. However, as times have changed, Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his softer side, and beautiful, passive male {{Possession Sue}}s are not uncommon in {{Slash|Fic}} fiction.
1st Jun '18 9:59:19 AM Clanger00
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In the past, Mary Sue didn't really ''do'' very much, because [[StayInTheKitchen a woman who took an active role in dramatic events was unwomanly]] and, by definition, not perfect. So Mary Sue mostly radiated a soft glow of [[PuritySue purity and beauty]] into the narrative around her, was inexplicably popular, and had people fall in love with her a lot. And this side of her lineage still shows, even as [[SocietyMarchesOn changes in society]] have allowed women to [[ActionGirl get their]] [[KatanasAreJustBetter katanas]] [[ActionGirl out and fly and so forth.]]

Marty Stu, however, is usually restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu is the personification of action, action and more action. Or, if he is of an intellectual bent, he [[AwesomenessByAnalysis thinks his way through problems]], inventing whole new branches of science and technology in the process, and in some cases, the character is often portrayed as personification of both, completing missions as both the brains and the brawn taking up the roles usually shared among the main character and a team or a partner. In contrast to Mary Sue who has been freed to play an active and/or passive role, Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. When he does, it is almost exclusively the territory of [[{{Wimpification}} wimpified]] {{Possession Sue}}s in {{Slash|Fic}}.

Marty Stu is devastatingly handsome (or if not, possessed of a strange, saturnine magnetism) and desired by all significant women, yes, but romance is not likely to be the main dish. He's an unstoppable fighter, a rogue agent, a fearless freedom fighter, a master of disguise. However, as times have changed, just as Mary's acquired a [[JerkSue bratty temper]], Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his [[{{Wangst}} softer side]].

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In the past, Mary Sue didn't really ''do'' very much, because [[StayInTheKitchen a woman who took an active role in dramatic events was unwomanly]] and, by definition, not perfect. So Mary Sue mostly radiated a soft glow of [[PuritySue purity and beauty]] into the narrative around her, was inexplicably popular, and had people fall in love with her a lot. And this side of her lineage still shows, even as [[SocietyMarchesOn changes in society]] have allowed women to [[ActionGirl get their]] [[KatanasAreJustBetter katanas]] [[ActionGirl out and fly and so forth.]]

Marty Stu, however, is usually restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So
Marty Stu is will be the personification of action, action and more action. Or, if he is of an intellectual bent, he [[AwesomenessByAnalysis thinks his way through problems]], inventing whole new branches of science and technology in the process, and in some cases, the character is often portrayed as personification of both, completing missions as both the brains and the brawn taking up the roles usually shared among the main character and a team or a partner. In contrast to Mary Sue who has been freed to play an active and/or passive role, Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. When he does, it is almost exclusively the territory of [[{{Wimpification}} wimpified]] {{Possession Sue}}s in {{Slash|Fic}}.\n\nMarty Stu is devastatingly handsome (or if not, possessed of a strange, saturnine magnetism) and desired by all significant women, yes, but romance is not likely to be the main dish. He's an unstoppable fighter, a rogue agent, a fearless freedom fighter, a master of disguise. But whether he is a BloodKnight or a OmnidisciplinaryScientist, Marty Stu will be devastatingly handsome (or if not, possessed of a strange, saturnine magnetism) and desired by all significant women, yes, but romance is not likely to be the main dish.

He has usually been (and still mostly is) restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu, in contrast to Mary Sue who is has recently been able to take [[ActionGirl more active roles]], Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have.
However, as times have changed, just as Mary's acquired a [[JerkSue bratty temper]], Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his [[{{Wangst}} softer side]].side, and beautiful, passive male {{Possession Sue}}s are not uncommon in {{Slash|Fic}} fiction.
1st Jun '18 9:12:43 AM Clanger00
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* In Young Adult fiction, a tell-tale sign of the Marty Stu is that he'll have really, really long eyelashes and a perfect smile.
* He has an {{eyepatch|OfPower}} because nothing says bad-ass like missing an eye and still being the most capable guy around. Also, because {{pirate}}s are cool.
* He has a bionic limb because of some terrible accident where he was rescuing somebody or doing something else heroic.

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* In Young Adult fiction, a tell-tale sign of the Marty Stu is that he'll have really, really long eyelashes and a perfect smile.
* He has an {{eyepatch|OfPower}} because nothing says bad-ass like missing an eye and still being the most capable guy around. Also, because {{pirate}}s are cool.
* He
cool. Similarly, he has a bionic limb because of some terrible accident where he was rescuing somebody or doing something else heroic.
1st Jun '18 9:05:01 AM Clanger00
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Just like the AlwaysMale category on this Wiki, there's painfully little that Marty does that Mary doesn't, generally being limited to sexuality-related things. Nonetheless, here's the little bitty list of exclusive Marty Stu traits:

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Just like Despite the AlwaysMale category on this Wiki, there's painfully little that huge overlap between Marty does Stu and Mary Sue, there are a few character traits that Mary doesn't, generally being limited to are much, much more common in Marty than his sister (generally sexuality-related things. Nonetheless, here's things). Here's the little bitty list of exclusive Marty Stu traits:
1st Jun '18 8:52:02 AM Clanger00
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Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld virtues (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and heterosexual promiscuity). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers - for analogous but different reasons - tend to like such characters.

See also TheAce, which often uses this trope as a minor character for comic relief.

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Once upon Marty Stus are often subject to a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were DoubleStandard where they tend to be noticed and hated to a much greater lesser degree than Marty Stus]]. Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld virtues (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and heterosexual promiscuity). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers - for analogous but different reasons - tend to like such characters.

Mary Sues are. See also TheAce, which often uses this trope as a minor character for comic relief.
23rd May '18 1:16:12 PM CatcherInTheWry
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** On the other hand, having ''zero'' scars even when it would be extremely unrealistic (A badass warrior who's been fighting powerful beasts in the wilderness without a single scratch to show for it) to not have any is equally Marty-ish.
22nd May '18 6:50:07 AM LondonKdS
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* If he doesn't use firearms he will be a master of some kind of fantastically-obscure and specialised (if not imaginary) martial art which will likewise be discussed in excessive detail. Bonus points if it's a martial art that the character would in the real world have no opportunity to learn, such as an eighteenth-century nobleman who single-handedly invented modern UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts or an eleventh-century knight who went crusading and [[IKnowKungFu learned kung-fu]] from a wandering Chinese master who somehow made it to Palestine.
* If written by a man, he will have had [[LemonStu Lots of sex]] [[TheCasanova with lots of women]] to prove his sexual virility. If he's written by a girl, he may be a virgin, proving that he's deeply sensitive and dedicated. Either way, the sex he dishes out will be the best ever.

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* If he doesn't use firearms he will be a master of some kind of fantastically-obscure and specialised (if not imaginary) [[FantasticFightingStyle imaginary]]) martial art which will likewise be discussed in excessive detail. Bonus points if it's a martial art that the character would in the real world have no opportunity to learn, such as an eighteenth-century nobleman who single-handedly invented modern UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts or an eleventh-century knight who went crusading and [[IKnowKungFu learned kung-fu]] from a wandering Chinese master who somehow made it to Palestine.
* If written by a man, he will have had [[LemonStu Lots lots of sex]] [[TheCasanova with lots of women]] to prove his sexual virility. If he's written by a girl, he may be a virgin, proving that he's deeply sensitive and dedicated. Either way, the sex he dishes out will be the best ever.
7th Sep '17 11:55:43 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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MartyStu, however, is usually restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu is the personification of action, action and more action. Or, if he is of an intellectual bent, he [[AwesomenessByAnalysis thinks his way through problems]], inventing whole new branches of science and technology in the process, and in some cases, the character is often portrayed as personification of both, completing missions as both the brains and the brawn taking up the roles usually shared among the main character and a team or a partner. In contrast to Mary Sue who has been freed to play an active and/or passive role, Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. When he does, it is almost exclusively the territory of [[{{Wimpification}} wimpified]] {{Possession Sue}}s in {{Slash|Fic}}.

MartyStu is devastatingly handsome (or if not, possessed of a strange, saturnine magnetism) and desired by all significant women, yes, but romance is not likely to be the main dish. He's an unstoppable fighter, a rogue agent, a fearless freedom fighter, a master of disguise. However, as times have changed, just as Mary's acquired a [[JerkSue bratty temper]], Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his [[{{Wangst}} softer side]].

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MartyStu, Marty Stu, however, is usually restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu is the personification of action, action and more action. Or, if he is of an intellectual bent, he [[AwesomenessByAnalysis thinks his way through problems]], inventing whole new branches of science and technology in the process, and in some cases, the character is often portrayed as personification of both, completing missions as both the brains and the brawn taking up the roles usually shared among the main character and a team or a partner. In contrast to Mary Sue who has been freed to play an active and/or passive role, Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. When he does, it is almost exclusively the territory of [[{{Wimpification}} wimpified]] {{Possession Sue}}s in {{Slash|Fic}}.

MartyStu Marty Stu is devastatingly handsome (or if not, possessed of a strange, saturnine magnetism) and desired by all significant women, yes, but romance is not likely to be the main dish. He's an unstoppable fighter, a rogue agent, a fearless freedom fighter, a master of disguise. However, as times have changed, just as Mary's acquired a [[JerkSue bratty temper]], Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his [[{{Wangst}} softer side]].



As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (a la GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]'', faster than ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.

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As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu Marty Stu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (a la GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]'', faster than ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.



Just like the AlwaysMale category on this Wiki, there's painfully little that Marty does that Mary doesn't, generally being limited to sexuality-related things. Nonetheless, here's the little bitty list of exclusive MartyStu traits:

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Just like the AlwaysMale category on this Wiki, there's painfully little that Marty does that Mary doesn't, generally being limited to sexuality-related things. Nonetheless, here's the little bitty list of exclusive MartyStu Marty Stu traits:
10th Aug '17 5:57:17 PM Chickeon
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** Alt. Names: Perfect Hero Syndrome, Mr. Good Guy, Messianic Stu (in works where he takes on Christ-like qualities, not that uncommon,) Buddah-Like Stu (in works where he takes on Buddah-like qualities, also not that uncommon,) [[Myth/KingArthur The Galahad]] (in works featuring chivary as in Arthurian legend).

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** Alt. Names: Perfect Hero Syndrome, Mr. Good Guy, Messianic Stu (in works where he takes on Christ-like qualities, not that uncommon,) Buddah-Like Buddha-Like Stu (in works where he takes on Buddah-like Buddha-like qualities, also not that uncommon,) [[Myth/KingArthur The Galahad]] (in works featuring chivary as in Arthurian legend).
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