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7th Sep '17 11:55:43 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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MartyStu, however, is usually restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu is the personification of action, action and more action. Or, if he is of an intellectual bent, he [[AwesomenessByAnalysis thinks his way through problems]], inventing whole new branches of science and technology in the process, and in some cases, the character is often portrayed as personification of both, completing missions as both the brains and the brawn taking up the roles usually shared among the main character and a team or a partner. In contrast to Mary Sue who has been freed to play an active and/or passive role, Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. When he does, it is almost exclusively the territory of [[{{Wimpification}} wimpified]] {{Possession Sue}}s in {{Slash|Fic}}.

MartyStu is devastatingly handsome (or if not, possessed of a strange, saturnine magnetism) and desired by all significant women, yes, but romance is not likely to be the main dish. He's an unstoppable fighter, a rogue agent, a fearless freedom fighter, a master of disguise. However, as times have changed, just as Mary's acquired a [[JerkSue bratty temper]], Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his [[{{Wangst}} softer side]].

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MartyStu, Marty Stu, however, is usually restricted to being a creature of action since men who do not take an active role in dramatic events are unmanly and, by definition, not perfect (NonActionGuy tends to be looked upon with disdain). So Marty Stu is the personification of action, action and more action. Or, if he is of an intellectual bent, he [[AwesomenessByAnalysis thinks his way through problems]], inventing whole new branches of science and technology in the process, and in some cases, the character is often portrayed as personification of both, completing missions as both the brains and the brawn taking up the roles usually shared among the main character and a team or a partner. In contrast to Mary Sue who has been freed to play an active and/or passive role, Marty Stu is almost never seen taking on his sister's old school PuritySue role: passive motivator of others through his purity, beauty and helplessness unless it's in addition to the action and intellectual roles they already have. When he does, it is almost exclusively the territory of [[{{Wimpification}} wimpified]] {{Possession Sue}}s in {{Slash|Fic}}.

MartyStu Marty Stu is devastatingly handsome (or if not, possessed of a strange, saturnine magnetism) and desired by all significant women, yes, but romance is not likely to be the main dish. He's an unstoppable fighter, a rogue agent, a fearless freedom fighter, a master of disguise. However, as times have changed, just as Mary's acquired a [[JerkSue bratty temper]], Marty's had the occasional opportunity to show his [[{{Wangst}} softer side]].



As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (a la GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]'', faster than ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.

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As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the CommonMarySueTraits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a [[PuritySue pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection]], MartyStu Marty Stu tends towards taking the RuleOfCool '''[-[[UpToEleven TO THE EXTREME!!!]]-]''' Due in part to the DoubleStandard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (a la GodModeSue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than ''[[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]'', faster than ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', and have more [[{{Mana}} MP]] than {{God}} himself.



Just like the AlwaysMale category on this Wiki, there's painfully little that Marty does that Mary doesn't, generally being limited to sexuality-related things. Nonetheless, here's the little bitty list of exclusive MartyStu traits:

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Just like the AlwaysMale category on this Wiki, there's painfully little that Marty does that Mary doesn't, generally being limited to sexuality-related things. Nonetheless, here's the little bitty list of exclusive MartyStu Marty Stu traits:
10th Aug '17 5:57:17 PM Chickeon
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** Alt. Names: Perfect Hero Syndrome, Mr. Good Guy, Messianic Stu (in works where he takes on Christ-like qualities, not that uncommon,) Buddah-Like Stu (in works where he takes on Buddah-like qualities, also not that uncommon,) [[Myth/KingArthur The Galahad]] (in works featuring chivary as in Arthurian legend).

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** Alt. Names: Perfect Hero Syndrome, Mr. Good Guy, Messianic Stu (in works where he takes on Christ-like qualities, not that uncommon,) Buddah-Like Buddha-Like Stu (in works where he takes on Buddah-like Buddha-like qualities, also not that uncommon,) [[Myth/KingArthur The Galahad]] (in works featuring chivary as in Arthurian legend).
30th Jul '17 6:45:11 PM nombretomado
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* '''{{Lemon Stu}} [[AntiSue Anti-Stu]]''': ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin, LemonStu [[XMeetsY meets]] AntiSue. This type of Marty Stu is unattractive, [[JerkSue rude]], and [[ThisLoserIsYou often meant to be a stand-in for the male audience]]. Yet somehow, he manages to score with beautiful women, often resulting in KavorkaMan and UglyGuyHotWife.

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* '''{{Lemon Stu}} [[AntiSue Anti-Stu]]''': ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin, LemonStu [[XMeetsY [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] AntiSue. This type of Marty Stu is unattractive, [[JerkSue rude]], and [[ThisLoserIsYou often meant to be a stand-in for the male audience]]. Yet somehow, he manages to score with beautiful women, often resulting in KavorkaMan and UglyGuyHotWife.
26th Jul '17 1:49:08 PM Nello
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* As well as that, give him an [[BiggerIsBetterInBed large penis]]. No, not a GagPenis. The author will expect people to actually accept that his member can double as a baseball bat. The more [[AnatomicallyImpossibleSex blatantly inaccurate ones]] tend to be written by women, believing that 11 inches is going to feel really good in bed.

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* As well as that, give him an [[BiggerIsBetterInBed large penis]]. No, not a GagPenis. The author will expect people to actually accept that his member can double as a baseball bat. The more [[AnatomicallyImpossibleSex blatantly inaccurate ones]] tend to be written by women, men, believing that 11 inches is going to feel really good in bed.
1st Jul '17 12:30:38 AM KaiYves
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** In order to afford all of these cool toys, travel to glamorous locations, and otherwise generally live the high life, he may be a member of the Fiction500.
31st May '17 6:48:00 AM LondonKdS
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* CoolGuns, RareGuns, {{Cool Sword}}s, {{Improbably Cool Car}}s... The Marty Stu will usually travel in and/or fight with something '''WAY COOL''', and the writer will not let the reader get away without understanding '''just how cool''' it is. Basically, if female Mary Sue writers go overboard about making sure that the reader knows how [[CostumePorn crazy, gorgeous and revealing]] each of their character's one-per-chapter new costumes is, male Marty Stu writers will do the same about the [[GunPorn exact model]] of [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolver]] he uses and what [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells cartridges]] he puts in it to kill what kind of monster, or [[TechnologyPorn precisely how]] he souped his Jaguar E-Type V12 up to 500bhp.

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* CoolGuns, RareGuns, {{Cool Sword}}s, {{Improbably Cool Car}}s...HerosClassicCar... The Marty Stu will usually travel in and/or fight with something '''WAY COOL''', and the writer will not let the reader get away without understanding '''just how cool''' it is. Basically, if female Mary Sue writers go overboard about making sure that the reader knows how [[CostumePorn crazy, gorgeous and revealing]] each of their character's one-per-chapter new costumes is, male Marty Stu writers will do the same about the [[GunPorn exact model]] of [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolver]] he uses and what [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells cartridges]] he puts in it to kill what kind of monster, or [[TechnologyPorn precisely how]] he souped his Jaguar E-Type V12 up to 500bhp.
15th Jan '17 1:31:55 AM SpuriousAlcelaphine
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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "Gary Stu" or "Larry St" (for those who prefer {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing to [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".

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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "Gary Stu" or "Larry St" Stu" (for those who prefer {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing to [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".
1st Jan '17 7:05:22 AM CyberController
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* '''{{Informed|Attribute}} {{Anti S|ue}}tu''': This Stu is [[AntiSue disadvantaged by society, magic, techonology or any other factor owning to certain attributes that make him weak and disadvantaged]]...''[[BlatantLies except none of those weaknesses ever come into play]]'', while any or all of the "positive" elements of the above Stu archetypes continue to apply in the context of the story.

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* '''{{Informed|Attribute}} {{Anti S|ue}}tu''': This Stu is [[AntiSue disadvantaged by society, magic, techonology technology or any other factor owning to certain attributes that make him weak and disadvantaged]]...''[[BlatantLies except none of those weaknesses ever come into play]]'', while any or all of the "positive" elements of the above Stu archetypes continue to apply in the context of the story.
19th Dec '16 2:32:57 PM Discar
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Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld virtues (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and [[AManIsNotAVirgin heterosexual promiscuity]]). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers - for analogous but different reasons - tend to like such characters.

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Once upon a time, [[DoubleStandard Mary Sues were noticed and hated to a much greater degree than Marty Stus]]. Male characters were forgiven for being implausibly plastic because they upheld virtues (usually 'masculine' ones like toughness, courage, and [[AManIsNotAVirgin heterosexual promiscuity]]).promiscuity). Part of this may be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls as well as MostWritersAreMale. Both female and male writers - for analogous but different reasons - tend to like such characters.



Marty also generally [[AManIsNotAVirgin doesn't have the sort of purity]] common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the DarkerAndEdgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to show that she's a brave survivor, Marty uses it for the sake of prolonged [[{{Mangst}} brooding]]. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to tragic superheroes like ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' ([[CanonSue who often provide examples of Marty Stu themselves in the hands of certain writers]]), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.

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Marty also generally [[AManIsNotAVirgin doesn't have the sort of purity]] purity common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the DarkerAndEdgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to show that she's a brave survivor, Marty uses it for the sake of prolonged [[{{Mangst}} brooding]]. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to tragic superheroes like ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'' ([[CanonSue who often provide examples of Marty Stu themselves in the hands of certain writers]]), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters.



* If written by a man, he will have had [[AManIsNotAVirgin Lots of sex]] [[TheCasanova with lots of women]] to prove his sexual virility. If he's written by a girl, he may be a virgin, proving that he's deeply sensitive and dedicated. Either way, the sex he dishes out will be the best ever.

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* If written by a man, he will have had [[AManIsNotAVirgin [[LemonStu Lots of sex]] [[TheCasanova with lots of women]] to prove his sexual virility. If he's written by a girl, he may be a virgin, proving that he's deeply sensitive and dedicated. Either way, the sex he dishes out will be the best ever.
10th Dec '16 11:53:45 AM MartineBrooke
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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "Gary Stu" or "Larry St" (for those who prefer {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing}} to [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".

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MarySue, and the plot bias indicative of it, is hardly limited to those of a female persuasion. For probably just as long (if not even longer) as there has been MarySue, so too has there been Marty Stu. All the same rules apply, but a couple variations do tend to show up, expressing different ideas of what constitutes male and female "perfection". Also referred to as "Gary Stu" or "Larry St" (for those who prefer {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing}} {{rhym|esOnADime}}ing to [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal alliteration]] and whose dialect has the Mary-marry merger), "Mary Joe", or "Marty Sam".
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