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8th Feb '16 1:56:36 AM shamblingdead2
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** After the fourth season, when Amy and Bernadette were added to the permanent cast, this has been the case more often than not. Either the girls have a separate storyline involving "girl time," or we see the "female perspective" on one nerd-issue or another.

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* ''Series/TheOffice'' takes a look in Season 2's "Boys and Girls" episode. Jan holds a "women in the workplace" seminar, and Michael takes the "boys" down to the warehouse--where's he's just as unwelcome.
27th Dec '15 11:35:29 PM tealmage
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Which ''particular'' gender stereotypes are invoked may vary considerably, and inconsistently, even within the same work: (e.g. women want romance/men want sex; women want to talk about feelings and go to the opera/MenAreUncultured; AllWomenLoveShoes/all men hate shopping; women are CloserToEarth/men are all {{Man Child}}ren, etc.) Stock contrasting stereotypes (hello, BettyAndVeronica) substituting for nuance will often also be in play. Outright logical contradiction between different stereotypes will rarely, if ever, be addressed.
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Which ''particular'' gender stereotypes are invoked may vary considerably, and inconsistently, even within the same work: (e.g. women want romance/men want sex; women want to talk about feelings and go to the opera/MenAreUncultured; AllWomenLoveShoes/all men hate shopping; women are CloserToEarth/men WomenAreWiser/men are all {{Man Child}}ren, etc.) Stock contrasting stereotypes (hello, BettyAndVeronica) substituting for nuance will often also be in play. Outright logical contradiction between different stereotypes will rarely, if ever, be addressed.

* ''Series/HomeImprovement''- a definite example of MenAreUncultured as both something men are/should be proud of, as well as something that makes women CloserToEarth.
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* ''Series/HomeImprovement''- a definite example of MenAreUncultured as both something men are/should be proud of, as well as something that makes women CloserToEarth.a way in which WomenAreWiser.
26th Nov '15 8:36:00 PM nombretomado
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The presence of certain actors (Creator/JenniferAniston, Creator/MegRyan, SarahJessicaParker, and on the SpearCounterpart side, Creator/MichaelDouglas, Vince Vaughn and Creator/SethRogen) tends to indicate this trope will come into play.
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The presence of certain actors (Creator/JenniferAniston, Creator/MegRyan, SarahJessicaParker, Creator/SarahJessicaParker, and on the SpearCounterpart side, Creator/MichaelDouglas, Vince Vaughn and Creator/SethRogen) tends to indicate this trope will come into play.
26th Jun '15 10:36:26 AM SolipSchism
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Might ''slightly'' discourage editors from using the Test as a trope.
That said, in a perverse way works of this type emphasizing the male perspective tend to do better than average on TheBechdelTest, as in order to set up this trope they will normally introduce multiple female characters alongside the male ones, and by law of averages a few of the female characters' discussions will not be directly related to the opposite sex.
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That said, in a perverse way works of this type emphasizing the male perspective tend to do better than average on TheBechdelTest, UsefulNotes/TheBechdelTest, as in order to set up this trope they will normally introduce multiple female characters alongside the male ones, and by law of averages a few of the female characters' discussions will not be directly related to the opposite sex.
19th May '15 8:55:09 AM ChaoticNovelist
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In works that use this trope as a central element, naturally, both male and female characters will also, as noted above, tend to be overwhelmingly or even exclusively heterosexual. Male homosexuals, usually of the CampGay variety, may appear, often in a PetHomosexual role as a [[FagHag female character's]] friend [[note]]On a sidenote, binary contrasts similar to the Mars/Venus one tend to feature heavily in BoysLove works and SlashFic, with {{Seme}} and {{Uke}} couples, which often come complete with the same problems of communication and getting along as this trope attributes to heterosexual coupling. This just ''might'' be due to MostFanFicWritersAreGirls, though.[[/note]]. Lesbians tend to appear even less frequently, except as [[GirlOnGirlIsHot fantasy objects]] for male characters (and viewers): BaitAndSwitchLesbians may appear for similar reasons, but rarely get beyond a SweepsWeekLesbianKiss.
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In works that use this trope as a central element, naturally, both male and female characters will also, as noted above, tend to be overwhelmingly or even exclusively heterosexual. Male homosexuals, usually of the CampGay variety, may appear, often in a PetHomosexual role as a [[FagHag female character's]] friend [[note]]On a sidenote, binary contrasts similar to the Mars/Venus one tend to feature heavily in BoysLove works and SlashFic, with {{Seme}} and {{Uke}} couples, which often come complete with the same problems of communication and getting along as this trope attributes to heterosexual coupling. This just ''might'' be due to MostFanFicWritersAreGirls, though.MostFanFicWritersAreGirls.[[/note]]. Lesbians tend to appear even less frequently, except as [[GirlOnGirlIsHot fantasy objects]] for male characters (and viewers): BaitAndSwitchLesbians may appear for similar reasons, but rarely get beyond a SweepsWeekLesbianKiss.

** Hermione is actually smart and mature enough to explain some such misunderstandings. She still has difficulties with Ron later, but that's mostly because he has similar difficulties understanding ''himself'', let alone others.
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** Hermione is actually smart and mature enough to explain some such misunderstandings. She still has difficulties with Ron later, but that's mostly because he has similar difficulties understanding ''himself'', let alone others.

* The ''Literature/BlackJewels'' series by Anne Bishop, oh so very much.
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* The ''Literature/BlackJewels'' series by Anne Bishop, oh so very much.Bishop

* ''Literature/BridgetJones'', so very much.
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* ''Literature/BridgetJones'', so very much.''Literature/BridgetJones''

* Literature/SisterhoodSeries by Creator/FernMichaels: Absolutely loaded with this! In this series, men are unable to understand women at all, except for Jack Emery, and even he has failed in his attempts several times. The author firmly sided with women in this series, with an unhealthy dose of misandry thrown in. Naturally, you have {{Double Standard}}s, {{Henpecked Husband}}s, UnfortunateImplications, as well as a cringe-inducing speech by one female character about how men are actually little boys at heart, and you just need to give them a few things to keep them happy! Indeed, women in this series are presented as understanding men completely, except evidence in the series points to the fact that the author and, by extension, the female characters don't understand ''anything'' about men!
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* Literature/SisterhoodSeries by Creator/FernMichaels: Absolutely loaded with this! In this series, men are unable to understand women at all, except for Jack Emery, and even he has failed in his attempts several times. The author firmly sided with women in this series, with an unhealthy dose of misandry thrown in. Naturally, you have {{Double Standard}}s, {{Henpecked Husband}}s, UnfortunateImplications, as well as a cringe-inducing speech by one female character about how men are actually little boys at heart, and you just need to give them a few things to keep them happy! Indeed, women in this series are presented as understanding men completely, except evidence in the series points to the fact that the author and, by extension, the female characters don't understand ''anything'' about men!

* ''Literature/TheGodsThemselves'' has a world where there are ''three'' sexes - and they still have a version of this: Rationals, Emotionals and Parentals often baffle each other. Justified in this case, as the three sexes are only able to think and act in line with their gender stereotypes: Rationals are only interested in learning, Parentals are only interested in mating and raising children, and Emotionals are ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. On the other hand, this trope is pretty much absent when humans deal with each other, though that's mostly because there's only one major female character in the book.
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* ''Literature/TheGodsThemselves'' has a world where there are ''three'' sexes - and they still have a version of this: Rationals, Emotionals and Parentals often baffle each other. Justified in this case, as the three sexes are only able to think and act in line with their gender stereotypes: Rationals are only interested in learning, Parentals are only interested in mating and raising children, and Emotionals are ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin. On the other hand, this trope is pretty much absent when humans deal with each other, though that's mostly because there's only one major female character in the book.

* Pretty much the entire point of ''{{ComicStrip/Cathy}}''.
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* Pretty much the entire point of ''{{ComicStrip/Cathy}}''.
29th Mar '15 6:24:29 PM nombretomado
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* One episode of ''TheFairlyOddparents'' has Timmy wishing he was a girl so he could figure out what his crush wants for her birthday. Justified, since the kids still believe that GirlsHaveCooties. Chester discusses this when he sees Timmy as a girl going into an arcade and freaks out: ''"Boys like comic books, girls like dolls. Boys like video games, girls like makeup. We're different! That's why we have different bathrooms!"''
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* One episode of ''TheFairlyOddparents'' ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'' has Timmy wishing he was a girl so he could figure out what his crush wants for her birthday. Justified, since the kids still believe that GirlsHaveCooties. Chester discusses this when he sees Timmy as a girl going into an arcade and freaks out: ''"Boys like comic books, girls like dolls. Boys like video games, girls like makeup. We're different! That's why we have different bathrooms!"''
22nd Mar '15 3:08:39 PM Gowan
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zero context examples
* ''Film/TheUglyTruth''. * ''Film/DownWithLove''. * ''Film/HowToLoseAGuyInTenDays''. * ''Film/HesJustNotThatIntoYou''.
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* ''Film/TheUglyTruth''. * ''Film/DownWithLove''. * ''Film/HowToLoseAGuyInTenDays''. * ''Film/HesJustNotThatIntoYou''.In ''Literature/ABrothersPrice'', Eldest Whistler explains to Jerin that this is due to the different upbringing. They spoil and coddle the [[GenderRarityValue rare boys]], who as a result will be emotionally open and trusting, but teach the girls to mistrust everyone and search for weapons before hugging anyone.
22nd Mar '15 2:58:30 PM Scorpion451
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That said, however, in a perverse way, works of this type emphasizing the male perspective tend to do better than average on TheBechdelTest, as in order to set up this trope they will normally introduce multiple female characters alongside the male ones, and by law of averages a few of the female characters' discussions will not be directly related to the opposite sex. Likewise, in works emphasizing the female perspective, there will also usually be at least one straight male who believes that RealMenWearPink. This will either be countered by the character(s) "making up for" enjoyment of "feminine" interests with an excess of machismo in other areas, for instance by also being a CulturedBadass or a Pornomancer, or he will be portrayed as CampStraight. An occasional plotline that does not depict [[MenAreUncultured men as uncultured]] may lampoon the male character's attempts to embrace their feminine side; which will often cause [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity to ensue]] at their miserable failures, but the end will find the at least some of the characters reluctant to resume their old roles. The HeteronormativeCrusader probably believes in this trope.
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That said, however, in a perverse way, way works of this type emphasizing the male perspective tend to do better than average on TheBechdelTest, as in order to set up this trope they will normally introduce multiple female characters alongside the male ones, and by law of averages a few of the female characters' discussions will not be directly related to the opposite sex. Likewise, in works emphasizing the female perspective, there will also usually be at least one straight male who believes that RealMenWearPink. This While this will either usually be countered by the character(s) character "making up for" enjoyment of "feminine" interests this with an excess of machismo in other areas, for areas [[note]]for instance by also being a CulturedBadass who can readily "prove his manhood" in a brawl, or a Pornomancer, or he will be portrayed {{Pornomancer}} who's actual character depth doubles as CampStraight. An occasional plotline that does not depict [[MenAreUncultured men as uncultured]] may lampoon a way to seduce women[[/note]] the male character's attempts to embrace their feminine side; which character will often cause [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity serve as an example of how even a character RatedMForManly does not have to ensue]] at their miserable failures, but the end will find the at least some of the characters reluctant to resume their old roles. mean a character who is unrefined or childish. The HeteronormativeCrusader probably believes in this trope.trope, the StrawFeminist will see [[EverythingIsRacist every difference or conflict between characters of differing gender as this trope]], and the StrawMisogynist will decry any attempt to defy it.
22nd Mar '15 12:57:30 PM Scorpion451
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Do not expect works that invoke this trope heavily on a regular basis to be shining examples of feminism; however, in a perverse way, they tend to do better than average on TheBechdelTest, as in order to set up this trope they will normally introduce multiple female characters alongside the male ones, and by law of averages a few of the female characters' discussions will not be directly related to the opposite sex.
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Do not expect works that invoke this trope heavily on a regular basis to be shining examples of feminism; gender equality. That said, however, in a perverse way, they works of this type emphasizing the male perspective tend to do better than average on TheBechdelTest, as in order to set up this trope they will normally introduce multiple female characters alongside the male ones, and by law of averages a few of the female characters' discussions will not be directly related to the opposite sex. sex. Likewise, in works emphasizing the female perspective, there will also usually be at least one straight male who believes that RealMenWearPink. This will either be countered by the character(s) "making up for" enjoyment of "feminine" interests with an excess of machismo in other areas, for instance by also being a CulturedBadass or a Pornomancer, or he will be portrayed as CampStraight. An occasional plotline that does not depict [[MenAreUncultured men as uncultured]] may lampoon the male character's attempts to embrace their feminine side; which will often cause [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity to ensue]] at their miserable failures, but the end will find the at least some of the characters reluctant to resume their old roles.
8th Feb '15 1:55:15 PM DaibhidC
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[[folder: Radio]] *Parodied by Laura Shavins on ''Radio/TheNowShow'', "celebrating" the anniversary of ''Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus'': -->He wrote that all men are stupid, all women are mad, -->That's why mixed-sex relationships will always go bad. -->The best advice to give any young girl or lad, -->Is that all men are stupid, and all women are mad. [[/folder]]
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