History Main / MarsAndVenusGenderContrast

21st Mar '18 8:54:31 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/TheOffice'' takes a look in Season 2's "Boys and Girls" episode. Jan holds a "women in the workplace" seminar, and Michael takes the "boys" down to the warehouse--where's he's just as unwelcome.

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* ''Series/TheOffice'' ''Series/{{The Office|US}}'' takes a look in Season 2's "Boys and Girls" episode. Jan holds a "women in the workplace" seminar, and Michael takes the "boys" down to the warehouse--where's he's just as unwelcome.
1st Mar '18 7:50:00 AM JamesAustin
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%%* ''Film/HowToLoseAGuyInTenDays''.
28th Jan '18 12:04:45 PM Pastykake
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While often "officially" a DiscreditedTrope, this is often also claimed as TruthInTelevision, sometimes with an edge of brave speaking out against PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad, or with a DebateAndSwitch or JustJokingJustification approach.

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While Although often "officially" a DiscreditedTrope, this is often also claimed as TruthInTelevision, sometimes with an edge of brave speaking out against PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad, or with a DebateAndSwitch or JustJokingJustification approach.



** And for the grand prize, have them ask their same-sex friend, who claims to be an expert on the opposite sex and [[KnowNothingKnowItAll has no idea what they're talking about]].

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** And for For the grand prize, have them the protagonist ask their same-sex friend, who claims to be an expert on the opposite sex and [[KnowNothingKnowItAll has no idea what they're s/he's talking about]].



Characters need not be (entirely) [[FlatCharacter flat]], but women characters will tend to be stereotypically female and men stereotypically male. Deviations from stereotype, where they appear, will tend to be plot points in their own right as exceptions that prove the rule, and are usually resolved by a return to something more stereotypical (e.g. {{Tomboy}} WrenchWench gets her man when she finally [[SheCleansUpNicely cleans up nicely]]).

Which ''particular'' gender stereotypes are invoked may vary considerably, and inconsistently, even within the same work: (e.g. women want romance/men want sex; women want to talk about feelings and go to the opera/MenAreUncultured; AllWomenLoveShoes/all men hate shopping; WomenAreWiser/men are all {{Man Child}}ren, etc.) Stock contrasting stereotypes (hello, BettyAndVeronica) substituting for nuance will often also be in play. Outright logical contradiction between different stereotypes will rarely, if ever, be addressed.

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Characters need not be (entirely) [[FlatCharacter flat]], but women characters will tend to be stereotypically female and men stereotypically male. Deviations from stereotype, where they appear, will tend to be plot points in their own right as exceptions that prove the rule, and are usually resolved by a return to something more stereotypical (e.g. , {{Tomboy}} WrenchWench gets her man when she finally [[SheCleansUpNicely cleans up nicely]]).

Which ''particular'' gender stereotypes are invoked may vary considerably, and inconsistently, even within the same work: (e.work; e.g. , women want romance/men want sex; sex, women want to talk about feelings and go to the opera/MenAreUncultured; opera/MenAreUncultured, AllWomenLoveShoes/all men hate shopping; shopping, WomenAreWiser/men are all {{Man Child}}ren, etc.) etc. Stock contrasting stereotypes (hello, BettyAndVeronica) substituting for nuance will often also be in play. Outright logical contradiction between different stereotypes will rarely, if ever, be addressed.



In works that use this trope as a central element, naturally, both male and female characters will also, as noted above, tend to be overwhelmingly or even exclusively heterosexual. Gay men, usually of the CampGay variety, may appear, often as a [[FagHag female character's]] GayBestFriend [[note]]On a sidenote, binary contrasts similar to the Mars/Venus one tend to feature heavily in BoysLove works and SlashFic, with {{Seme}} and {{Uke}} couples, which often come complete with the same problems of communication and getting along as this trope attributes to heterosexual coupling. This just ''might'' be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls.[[/note]]. Lesbians tend to appear even less frequently, except as [[GirlOnGirlIsHot fantasy objects]] for male characters (and viewers): BaitAndSwitchLesbians may appear for similar reasons, but rarely get beyond a SweepsWeekLesbianKiss.

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In works that use this trope as a central element, naturally, both male and female characters will also, as noted above, tend to be overwhelmingly or even exclusively heterosexual. Gay men, usually of the CampGay variety, may appear, often as a [[FagHag female character's]] GayBestFriend GayBestFriend.[[note]]On a sidenote, side note, binary contrasts similar to the Mars/Venus one tend to feature heavily in BoysLove works and SlashFic, with {{Seme}} and {{Uke}} couples, which often come complete with the same problems of communication and getting along as this trope attributes to heterosexual coupling. This just ''might'' be due to MostFanficWritersAreGirls.[[/note]]. [[/note]] Lesbians tend to appear even less frequently, except as [[GirlOnGirlIsHot fantasy objects]] for male characters (and viewers): BaitAndSwitchLesbians may appear for similar reasons, but rarely get beyond a SweepsWeekLesbianKiss.



Almost unavoidable by definition in ChickLit and Lad Lit, and the corresponding flick genres, and pervasive if not quite inevitable in RomCom. Also frequent feature of Dom Com.

The presence of certain actors (Creator/JenniferAniston, Creator/MegRyan, Creator/SarahJessicaParker, and on the SpearCounterpart side, Creator/MichaelDouglas, Vince Vaughn and Creator/SethRogen) tends to indicate this trope will come into play.

Also a common feature of observational RecordedAndStandUpComedy. Oh, and there's just a tiny bit of this in {{Advertising}}, too, as seen in MenBuyFromMarsWomenBuyFromVenus. This trope is also most of the raison d'etre of magazines specifically meant for one or the other gender (Cosmopolitan, FHM, etc.)

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Almost unavoidable by definition in ChickLit and Lad Lit, and the corresponding flick genres, and pervasive if not quite inevitable in RomCom. Also a frequent feature of Dom Com.

The presence of certain actors (Creator/JenniferAniston, Creator/MegRyan, Creator/SarahJessicaParker, and on the SpearCounterpart side, Creator/MichaelDouglas, Vince Vaughn Vaughn, and Creator/SethRogen) tends to indicate this trope will come into play.

Also a A common feature of observational RecordedAndStandUpComedy. Oh, and there's just a tiny bit of this in {{Advertising}}, {{advertising}}, too, as seen in MenBuyFromMarsWomenBuyFromVenus. This trope is also most of the raison d'etre of magazines specifically meant for one or the other gender (Cosmopolitan, FHM, etc.)
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Likewise, in works emphasizing the female perspective, there will also usually be at least one straight male who believes that RealMenWearPink. While this will usually be countered by the character "making up for" this with an excess of machismo in other areas [[note]]for instance by also being a CulturedBadass who can readily "prove his manhood" in a brawl, or a {{Pornomancer}} who's actual character depth doubles as a way to seduce women[[/note]] the character will often serve as an example of how even a character RatedMForManly does not have to mean a character who is unrefined or childish.

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Likewise, in works emphasizing the female perspective, there will also usually be at least one straight male man who believes that RealMenWearPink. While Although this will usually be countered by the character "making up for" this with an excess of machismo in other areas [[note]]for areas[[note]]for instance by also being a CulturedBadass who can readily "prove his manhood" in a brawl, or a {{Pornomancer}} who's whose actual character depth doubles as a way to seduce women[[/note]] the character women[[/note]], he will often serve as an example of how even a character RatedMForManly does not have to mean a character who is unrefined or childish.



* Manga/OnePiece: Nami proves to be an archetypal character for this trope. As the series unfolds, it's clear Nami simply doesn't get men's way of thinking, whatever it is values, attitudes, behaviors, codes, intentions, decisions or actions. Specifically, she doesn't understand the tacit communication between Luffy and Zoro (as seen in Buggy arc), is the only character who hates to be in a Wanted poster (in contrast with general cheerfulness male characters react to publications and updates of those posters) and her opinions and advices are usually disregarded in topics like adventures, honor or discipline and respect, who are important for men (like her permission for Luffy and Zoro to fight Bellamy in Jaya arc, her attempt to ruin Luffy's adventure in Skypiea and her refusal to have a campfire in Upper Yard, the whole Usopp affair in Water 7, or the "Monster Trio" accepting or supporting the "Davy Back Fight" challenge against the Fox Pirates). Even after the {{Time Skip}}, that situation doesn't change at all, as seen in [[spoiler: Punk Hazard arc]] or the [[spoiler: Whole Cake Island arc, where Nami decided to cut bonds with Sanji, only to see how Luffy, unlike her, shows totally loyal with him, overriding Nami decision in the process]].

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* Manga/OnePiece: Nami proves to be an archetypal character for this trope. As the series unfolds, it's clear Nami simply doesn't get men's way of thinking, whatever be it is their values, attitudes, behaviors, codes, intentions, decisions decisions, or actions. Specifically, she doesn't understand the tacit communication between Luffy and Zoro (as seen in Buggy arc), is the only character who hates to be in a Wanted poster (in contrast with general cheerfulness male characters react with to publications and updates of those posters) and her opinions and advices advice are usually disregarded in topics like adventures, honor or discipline discipline, and respect, who are important for men (like her permission for Luffy and Zoro to fight Bellamy in Jaya arc, her attempt to ruin Luffy's adventure in Skypiea and her refusal to have a campfire in Upper Yard, the whole Usopp affair in Water 7, or the "Monster Trio" accepting or supporting the "Davy Back Fight" challenge against the Fox Pirates). Even after the {{Time Skip}}, that situation doesn't change at all, as seen in [[spoiler: Punk Hazard arc]] or the [[spoiler: Whole Cake Island arc, where wherein Nami decided decides to cut bonds with Sanji, only to see how Luffy, unlike her, shows stays totally loyal with him, overriding Nami Nami's decision in the process]].



* An episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' did this, with Ash and James engaging in a double battle with May and Jessie after both groups (Ash's friends and Team Rocket) got into arguments over who was more competent. It ends with Jessie deciding to cheat by using an extra Pokemon, which Brock says disqualifies the girl's team, but by then Team Rocket is only interested in stealing Pikachu anyway.

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* An episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' did does this, with Ash and James engaging in a double battle with May and Jessie after both groups (Ash's friends and Team Rocket) got get into arguments over who was is more competent. It ends with Jessie deciding to cheat by using an extra Pokemon, pokémon, which Brock says disqualifies the girl's girls' team, but by then Team Rocket is are only interested in stealing Pikachu Pikachu, anyway.



* Spoofed in ''WesternAnimation/SouthParkBiggerLongerAndUncut''. Satan and Saddam Hussein are in bed together, and while Saddam Hussein is waving dildoes suggestively at Satan, Satan is reading ''Saddam is from Mars, Satan is from Venus'' and bemoaning their inability to communicate.

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* Spoofed in ''WesternAnimation/SouthParkBiggerLongerAndUncut''. Satan and Saddam Hussein are in bed together, and while Saddam Hussein is waving dildoes waves dildos suggestively at Satan, Satan is reading ''Saddam is from Mars, Satan is from Venus'' and bemoaning their inability to communicate.
24th Dec '17 3:46:49 PM ElSquibbonator
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* Lampshaded in the ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' [[TheMovie movie]] "A Sitch in Time", when Kim discovered that Shego, not one of her male villains, was destined to become the "Supreme One" who would conquer the world.

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* Lampshaded in the ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' [[TheMovie movie]] "A Sitch in Time", when Kim discovered that Shego, not one of her male villains, was destined to become the "Supreme One" who would conquer the world. The fact that Kim herself is female is never brought up.
24th Dec '17 3:44:43 PM ElSquibbonator
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* An episode of ''Anime/Pokemon'' did this, with Ash and James engaging in a double battle with May and Jessie after both groups (Ash's friends and Team Rocket) got into arguments over who was more competent.

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* An episode of ''Anime/Pokemon'' ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' did this, with Ash and James engaging in a double battle with May and Jessie after both groups (Ash's friends and Team Rocket) got into arguments over who was more competent.competent. It ends with Jessie deciding to cheat by using an extra Pokemon, which Brock says disqualifies the girl's team, but by then Team Rocket is only interested in stealing Pikachu anyway.
24th Dec '17 3:38:56 PM ElSquibbonator
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* An episode of ''Anime/Pokemon'' did this, with Ash and James engaging in a double battle with May and Jessie after both groups (Ash's friends and Team Rocket) got into arguments over who was more competent.
13th Dec '17 10:12:34 AM Divra
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* ''Literature/BridgetJones''

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** The first time Murphy meets Susan, Harry comments that Susan gives Murphy "the scan", a quick overview and analysis of clothing, makeup, shoes, posture, appearance, probable relative wealth and social status, which will dictate how two women will interact. Harry muses that men's equvialent is "Does he have beer, and, if yes, will he let me have one?"
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* ''Literature/BridgetJones''
15th Oct '17 7:33:10 PM VulgarBee
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* Anime/{{One Piece}}: Nami proves to be an archetypal character for this trope. As the series unfolds, it's clear Nami simply doesn't get men's way of thinking, whatever it is values, attitudes, behaviors, codes, intentions, decisions or actions. Specifically, she doesn't understand the tacit communication between Luffy and Zoro (as seen in Buggy arc), is the only character who hates to be in a Wanted poster (in contrast with general cheerfulness male characters react to publications and updates of those posters) and her opinions and advices are usually disregarded in topics like adventures, honor or discipline and respect, who are important for men (like her permission for Luffy and Zoro to fight Bellamy in Jaya arc, her attempt to ruin Luffy's adventure in Skypiea and her refusal to have a campfire in Upper Yard, the whole Usopp affair in Water 7, or the "Monster Trio" accepting or supporting the "Davy Back Fight" challenge against the Fox Pirates). Even after the {{Time Skip}}, that situation doesn't change at all, as seen in [[spoiler: Punk Hazard arc]] or the [[spoiler: Vinsmoke arc, where Nami decided to cut bonds with Sanji, only to see how Luffy, unlike her, shows totally loyal with him, overriding Nami decision in the process]].

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* Anime/{{One Piece}}: Manga/OnePiece: Nami proves to be an archetypal character for this trope. As the series unfolds, it's clear Nami simply doesn't get men's way of thinking, whatever it is values, attitudes, behaviors, codes, intentions, decisions or actions. Specifically, she doesn't understand the tacit communication between Luffy and Zoro (as seen in Buggy arc), is the only character who hates to be in a Wanted poster (in contrast with general cheerfulness male characters react to publications and updates of those posters) and her opinions and advices are usually disregarded in topics like adventures, honor or discipline and respect, who are important for men (like her permission for Luffy and Zoro to fight Bellamy in Jaya arc, her attempt to ruin Luffy's adventure in Skypiea and her refusal to have a campfire in Upper Yard, the whole Usopp affair in Water 7, or the "Monster Trio" accepting or supporting the "Davy Back Fight" challenge against the Fox Pirates). Even after the {{Time Skip}}, that situation doesn't change at all, as seen in [[spoiler: Punk Hazard arc]] or the [[spoiler: Vinsmoke Whole Cake Island arc, where Nami decided to cut bonds with Sanji, only to see how Luffy, unlike her, shows totally loyal with him, overriding Nami decision in the process]].
5th Oct '17 8:40:03 PM Demonaire
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* In the anime Anime/{{One Piece}}, Nami proves to be an archetypal character for this trope. As the series unfolds, it's clear Nami simply doesn't get men's way of thinking, whatever it is values, attitudes, behaviors, codes, intentions, decisions or actions. Specifically, she doesn't understand the tacit communication between Luffy and Zoro (as seen in Buggy arc), is the only character who hates to be in a Wanted poster (in contrast with general cheerfulness male characters react to publications and updates of those posters) and her opinions and advices are usually disregarded in topics like adventures, honor or discipline and respect, who are important for men (like her permission for Luffy and Zoro to fight Bellamy in Jaya arc, her attempt to ruin Luffy's adventure in Skypiea and her refusal to have a campfire in Upper Yard, the whole Usopp affair in Water 7, or the "Monster Trio" accepting or supporting the "Davy Back Fight" challenge against the Fox Pirates). Even after the {{Time Skip}}, that situation doesn't change at all, as seen in [[spoiler: Punk Hazard arc]] or the [[spoiler: Vinsmoke arc, where Nami decided to cut bonds with Sanji, only to see how Luffy, unlike her, shows totally loyal with him, overriding Nami decision in the process]].

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* In the anime Anime/{{One Piece}}, Piece}}: Nami proves to be an archetypal character for this trope. As the series unfolds, it's clear Nami simply doesn't get men's way of thinking, whatever it is values, attitudes, behaviors, codes, intentions, decisions or actions. Specifically, she doesn't understand the tacit communication between Luffy and Zoro (as seen in Buggy arc), is the only character who hates to be in a Wanted poster (in contrast with general cheerfulness male characters react to publications and updates of those posters) and her opinions and advices are usually disregarded in topics like adventures, honor or discipline and respect, who are important for men (like her permission for Luffy and Zoro to fight Bellamy in Jaya arc, her attempt to ruin Luffy's adventure in Skypiea and her refusal to have a campfire in Upper Yard, the whole Usopp affair in Water 7, or the "Monster Trio" accepting or supporting the "Davy Back Fight" challenge against the Fox Pirates). Even after the {{Time Skip}}, that situation doesn't change at all, as seen in [[spoiler: Punk Hazard arc]] or the [[spoiler: Vinsmoke arc, where Nami decided to cut bonds with Sanji, only to see how Luffy, unlike her, shows totally loyal with him, overriding Nami decision in the process]].
5th Oct '17 8:39:14 PM Demonaire
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* In the anime Anime/{{One Piece}}, Nami proves to be an archetypal character for this trope. As the series unfolds, it's clear Nami simply doesn't get men's way of thinking, whatever it is values, attitudes, behaviors, codes, intentions, decisions or actions. Specifically, she doesn't understand the tacit communication between Luffy and Zoro (as seen in Buggy arc), is the only character who hates to be in a Wanted poster (in contrast with general cheerfulness male characters react to publications and updates of those posters) and her opinions and advices are usually disregarded in topics like adventures, honor or discipline and respect, who are important for men (like her permission for Luffy and Zoro to fight Bellamy in Jaya arc, her attempt to ruin Luffy's adventure in Skypiea and her refusal to have a campfire in Upper Yard, the whole Usopp affair in Water 7, or the "Monster Trio" accepting or supporting the "Davy Back Fight" challenge against the Fox Pirates). Even after the {{Time Skip}}, that situation doesn't change at all, as seen in [[spoiler: Punk Hazard arc]] or the [[spoiler: Vinsmoke arc, where Nami decided to cut bonds with Sanji, only to see how Luffy, unlike her, shows totally loyal with him, overriding Nami decision in the process]].
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