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30th Jul '16 9:32:59 PM WanderingBrowser
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* Dr. Steinman in ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' uses ADAM, a highly-addictive genetic modifier, to perform his plastic surgery. Combined with his MadArtist tendencies (he's a plastic surgeon who worships Picasso), his patients tend to need ''more'' plastic surgery to undo the first round. And he's the only one in Rapture.

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* Dr. Steinman in ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' uses ADAM, a highly-addictive genetic modifier, to perform his plastic surgery. Combined with his MadArtist tendencies (he's ([[OhCrap he's a plastic surgeon who worships Picasso), Picasso]]), his patients tend to need ''more'' plastic surgery to undo the first round. And he's the only one in Rapture.Rapture.
** In fact, the Splicers you fight in general fall under this trope; "splicer syndrome" is a result of overusing ADAM, which is especially easy to do if one installs the various "SuperPowers formulas". The initial splicers were people who went mad from their ADAM use, terrorizing the populace as a whole by becoming deformed and deranged bandits. So, more people began splicing up to gain the powers to protect themselves from the initial splicers... only to turn into more splicers. And on it went, with the Plasmid companies still insisting on selling Plasmids & Tonics as "the only protection against splicers!" until ''the whole city'' was either dead or spliced up into insanity.
* Elanor Lamb, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/{{Bioshock 2}}'', is a classic "evil therapist" depiction of this trope, taking in the already unstable and miserable splicers and preying on their weaknesses to brainwash them into her [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill psychotic Collectivism cult]].
25th Jan '16 8:41:51 PM DoctorCooper
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No real life examples, please. However, media examples of how different real life therapies have been portrayed are, of course, welcome.

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No real life examples, please. However, media examples of how different real life therapies have been portrayed are, of course, welcome.
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11th Dec '15 10:59:57 PM CassandraLeo
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* In Creator/PhilipKDick's ''Literature/AScannerDarkly'', [[spoiler:New-Path is manufacturing Substance D in order to get people hooked on it, which then gives them a convenient source of patients and slave labour.]]
8th Dec '15 8:52:42 PM Duffan
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* She wasn't an official therapist, but the unsub in the ''CriminalMinds'' episode "Today I Do" wanted to be. She liked the importance of helping women through their problems, but when they became capable of managing without her, she lashed out. It started with trying to show how desperately they needed her. When that didn't work, she resorted to kidnapping and eventually murder.
21st Nov '15 2:11:01 PM StFan
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* Averted in ''DykesToWatchOutFor'': As Mo turns into a therapy junkie as a way of avoiding dealing with her life, her therapist actually throws her out.

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* PlayedForLaughs in [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-06-18/ this]] ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' strip.
* Averted in ''DykesToWatchOutFor'': ''ComicStrip/DykesToWatchOutFor'': As Mo turns into a therapy junkie as a way of avoiding dealing with her life, her therapist actually throws her out.

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* ZigZagged in ''Film/FightClub''. The main character and his love interest join group therapy for conditions they don't have, such as cancer, in order to feel a sense of connection and community. The question of whether the therapy helps people who actually need it is not addressed.

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* * ZigZagged in ''Film/FightClub''. The main character and his love interest join group therapy for conditions they don't have, such as cancer, in order to feel a sense of connection and community. The question of whether the therapy helps people who actually need it is not addressed.

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* PlayedForLaughs in [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-06-18/ this]] ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' strip.

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* ''ZinniaJones'': The episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScW-djjpzGY I am not a symptom]].

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* ''ZinniaJones'': ''WebVideo/ZinniaJones'': The episode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScW-djjpzGY I am not a symptom]].

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7th Aug '15 6:16:33 AM TrustBen
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* ''LawAndOrderSVU'' has played this card a few times.

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* ''LawAndOrderSVU'' ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' has played this card a few times.



* PlayedForLaughs in [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-06-18/ this]] ''Dilbert'' strip.

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* PlayedForLaughs in [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-06-18/ this]] ''Dilbert'' ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' strip.
17th Jul '15 4:26:14 AM Llygodenfawr
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For ''some'' individuals and at ''some'' times, intensive therapy and drug treatment might help immensely, but for others, the time spent in therapy, the side effects of maintenance medication aren't worth their limited or nonexistent benefits, and at least in three cases it can actually worsen disorders. [[note]] In antisocial personality disorder, talk therapy only makes someone learn how to be more manipulative and controlling and drug therapy only becomes a way to acquire drugs. In PTSD or other trigger-based illnesses, some forms of therapy -especially group therapy involving people in worse shape- can themselves trigger and increase severity of trigger responses. In anxiety, any therapy that induces self-reflection and introspection can lead to far worse anxiety and some maintenance meds such as SSRI drugs have anxiety as a side effect.[[/note]] In these cases, ManufacturingVictims happens when therapists or mental health/rehab businesses promise unrealistic success rates and persuade the parents of autism spectrum children or anxious people willing to please their therapists to continue maintenance medication when as needed or none would do, to continue therapies or counseling that really aren't needed (and that in the case of trauma like PTSD or grief, can be itself a trigger), or to consider inpatient rehab/therapy at a facility they are being paid for referrals to when outpatient is adequate.

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For ''some'' individuals and at ''some'' times, intensive therapy and drug treatment might help immensely, but for others, the time spent in therapy, the side effects of maintenance medication aren't worth their limited or nonexistent benefits, and at least in three cases it can actually worsen disorders. [[note]] In antisocial personality disorder, talk therapy only makes someone learn how to be more manipulative and controlling and drug therapy only becomes a way to acquire drugs. In PTSD or other trigger-based illnesses, some forms of therapy -especially -- especially group therapy involving people in worse shape- shape -- can themselves trigger and increase severity of trigger responses. In anxiety, any therapy that induces self-reflection and introspection can lead to far worse anxiety and some maintenance meds such as SSRI drugs have anxiety as a side effect.[[/note]] In these cases, ManufacturingVictims Manufacturing Victims happens when therapists or mental health/rehab businesses promise unrealistic success rates and persuade the parents of autism spectrum children or anxious people willing to please their therapists to continue maintenance medication when as needed or none would do, to continue therapies or counseling that really aren't needed (and that in the case of trauma like PTSD or grief, can be itself a trigger), or to consider inpatient rehab/therapy at a facility they are being paid for referrals to when outpatient is adequate.
17th Jul '15 4:24:43 AM Llygodenfawr
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Please note that those who make a living ManufacturingVictims are not necessarily malicious: They keep telling themselves that their method is popular because it works, when the grim reality is that it's popular because it gets people hooked on it. Regardless, a large majority of training for therapeutic work attempts to instill the idea that this trope is bad, as making the person dependent on therapy just replaces the old problem with a new one. Unfortunately, there's generally no good way for an outsider to tell the difference between the actual use of this trope and the existence of a hopeless case that keeps coming back despite lack of improvement. Also note that many psychiatric conditions like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and clinical depression are chronic conditions that would legitimately require ''years'' of drug therapy, counseling, and passive monitoring. That doesn't even get into the many and varied controversies over addiction treatment and therapy, including whether 12 Steps, non 12-step abstinence programs, or managed substitution/use are the gold standard or are enabling addiction itself. Mental health issues and dealing with them are ''highly'' individualized and personal matters.

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Please note that those who make a living ManufacturingVictims Manufacturing Victims are not necessarily malicious: They keep telling themselves that their method is popular because it works, when the grim reality is that it's popular because it gets people hooked on it. Regardless, a large majority of training for therapeutic work attempts to instill the idea that this trope is bad, as making the person dependent on therapy just replaces the old problem with a new one. Unfortunately, there's generally no good way for an outsider to tell the difference between the actual use of this trope and the existence of a hopeless case that keeps coming back despite lack of improvement. Also note that many psychiatric conditions like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and clinical depression are chronic conditions that would legitimately require ''years'' of drug therapy, counseling, and passive monitoring. That doesn't even get into the many and varied controversies over addiction treatment and therapy, including whether 12 Steps, non 12-step abstinence programs, or managed substitution/use are the gold standard or are enabling addiction itself. Mental health issues and dealing with them are ''highly'' individualized and personal matters.
21st Jun '15 10:02:22 PM WillBGood
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* The books by Kevin Trudeau [[ConspiracyTheorist paints the entire pharmaceutical industry this way]]. Do bear in mind though that Trudeau is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau currently doing time in federal prison]] for criminal contempt stemming from failure to pay fines regarding his own [[AllNaturalSnakeOil dubious medical claims.]]

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* The books by Kevin Trudeau [[ConspiracyTheorist paints paint the entire pharmaceutical industry this way]]. Do bear in mind though that Trudeau is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau currently doing time in federal prison]] for criminal contempt stemming from failure to pay fines regarding his own [[AllNaturalSnakeOil dubious medical claims.]]]]
21st Jun '15 10:02:01 PM WillBGood
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* The books by Kevin Trudeau [[ConspiracyTheorist paints the entire pharmaceutical industry this way]]. Do bear in mind though that Trudeau is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau currently doing time in federal prison]] for [[AllNaturalSnakeOil fradulent medical claims]].

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* The books by Kevin Trudeau [[ConspiracyTheorist paints the entire pharmaceutical industry this way]]. Do bear in mind though that Trudeau is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau currently doing time in federal prison]] for criminal contempt stemming from failure to pay fines regarding his own [[AllNaturalSnakeOil fradulent dubious medical claims]]. claims.]]
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