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11th Jun '18 12:48:26 PM MasterFuzzy
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** And Thor, surprisingly, though usually when people least expect it.

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** And Thor, surprisingly, though usually when people least expect it. As he points out, he spent just over twenty years as a wizard in the form of James Potter, and spent the last 1,500 years as the brother of Loki.






** Ponder Stibbons, a {{Magitek}} {{Geek}}, uses a combination of MagiBabble and TechnoBabble to describe the devices created in the High Energy Magic Building (or more often, to hide the fact he's got no idea how they work, even though he built them). Wizards, and indeed some others, also use the catch all explanation of 'It's probably Quantum' or something being weird "'cos of Quantum" to explain anything significantly baffling. It appears to fulfil the same function as saying 'It's magic' in RealLife, though it is usually incorporated with other MagiBabble.

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** Ponder Stibbons, a {{Magitek}} {{Geek}}, uses a combination of MagiBabble and TechnoBabble to describe the devices created in the High Energy Magic Building (or more often, to hide the fact he's got no idea how they work, even though he built them). Wizards, and indeed some others, also use the catch all explanation of 'It's probably Quantum' or something being weird "'cos of Quantum" to explain anything significantly baffling. It appears to fulfil fullfil the same function as saying 'It's magic' in RealLife, though it is usually incorporated with other MagiBabble.



* This is literally Bob's entire purpose in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''. He knows the rules better than any mere mortal like Harry could ever know them.
** Additionally, the Archive, a single human whose purpose is to be the physical containment of the entirety of humankind's body of written knowledge. This includes everything that has been written about the usage of magic. While a normal human with no inherent gifts, she is still probably the most adept magic caster on earth, knowledge that doubtlessly includes not only how to cast any spell, but how they work, and why they work.

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* This is literally Bob's entire purpose in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''. He knows the rules better than any mere mortal like Harry could ever know them.
them, being a spirit of intellect centuries, if not millennia, old.
** Additionally, the Archive, a single human whose purpose is to be the physical containment of the entirety of humankind's body of written knowledge. This includes everything that has been written about the usage of magic. While a normal human with no inherent gifts, she is still probably the most adept magic caster on earth, Earth, knowledge that doubtlessly includes not only how to cast any spell, but how they work, and why they work.
4th Jun '18 4:19:26 AM CountDorku
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* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' frequently has MagiBabble, on the premise that "alchemy is a precise science, really!" The basic rules being that they can't create matter from nothing, but the energy source is unknown to most people. This is where the Philosopher's Stone comes in. It's essentially a free gift of ludicrous amounts of energy, which would be necessary to create matter from "scratch." Free, that is, in that [[spoiler:someone had already paid the terrible price in advance]]. It required [[spoiler:Father with Truth inside]] to even master ''nuclear fusion'', let alone matter creation.

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* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' frequently has MagiBabble, on the premise that "alchemy is a precise science, really!" The basic rules being that they can't create matter from nothing, leading to the principle of EquivalentExchange, but the energy source for rearranging it is unknown to most people. This is where people (it seems to come from the earth in various ways). If you want more than that, however, you need a Philosopher's Stone comes in.Stone. It's essentially a free gift of ludicrous amounts of energy, which would be necessary to create matter from "scratch." Free, that is, in that [[spoiler:someone had already paid the terrible price in advance]]. It required [[spoiler:Father with Truth inside]] to even master ''nuclear fusion'', let alone matter creation.creation.
** PlayedForLaughs towards the end, when [[spoiler:Edward Elric]] attempts to use MagiBabble about EquivalentExchange ''as the basis for a WackyMarriageProposal''. [[{{Adorkable}} It is exactly as dorky as it sounds.]] [[spoiler: Luckily for Ed, Winry is also kind of a dork at heart, and says yes.]]
20th Mar '18 4:42:20 PM 1810072342
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* ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' uses this on some occasions, especially since it has a tendency to introduce terms early and then explain what they mean later. This does mean that the 'babble' effect decreases over time as the audience starts to get their head around what characters mean when they say certain things. To give [[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift an example]], saying that [[DeusEstMachina the Takamagahara system]] can perform Phenomena Intervention to travel between the various alternate timelines created by the Continuum Shift that happened when Noel's lost control over her power as the Successor of the Azure, is a very complicated way of saying 'the bad guys can do RealityWarping by exploiting the heroine's PowerIncontinence'.

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* ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' uses this on some occasions, especially since it has a tendency to introduce terms early and then explain what they mean later. This does mean that the 'babble' effect decreases over time as the audience starts to get their head around what characters mean when they say certain things. To give [[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift an example]], saying that [[DeusEstMachina the Takamagahara system]] can perform Phenomena Intervention to travel between the various alternate timelines created by the Continuum Shift event that happened when Noel's Noel lost control over her power as the Successor of the Azure, is a very complicated way of saying 'the bad guys can do RealityWarping by exploiting the heroine's PowerIncontinence'.
20th Mar '18 4:41:19 PM 1810072342
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* ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' uses this on some occasions, especially since it has a tendency to introduce terms early and then explain what they mean later. This does mean that the 'babble' effect decreases over time as the audience starts to get their head around what characters mean when they say certain things. To give [[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift an example]], saying that [[DeusEstMachina the Takamagahara system]] can perform Phenomena Intervention to enforce one of the alternate continuities created by the Continuum Shift caused by Noel's lack of control over her power as the Successor of the Azure, is a very complicated way of saying 'the bad guys can do RealityWarping by exploiting the heroine's PowerIncontinence'.

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* ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' uses this on some occasions, especially since it has a tendency to introduce terms early and then explain what they mean later. This does mean that the 'babble' effect decreases over time as the audience starts to get their head around what characters mean when they say certain things. To give [[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift an example]], saying that [[DeusEstMachina the Takamagahara system]] can perform Phenomena Intervention to enforce one of travel between the various alternate continuities timelines created by the Continuum Shift caused by that happened when Noel's lack of lost control over her power as the Successor of the Azure, is a very complicated way of saying 'the bad guys can do RealityWarping by exploiting the heroine's PowerIncontinence'.
20th Mar '18 4:39:54 PM 1810072342
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* ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' uses this on some occasions, especially since it has a tendency to introduce terms early and then explain what they mean later. This does mean that the 'babble' effect decreases over time as the audience starts to get their head around what characters mean when they say certain things. To give [[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift an example]], saying that [[DeusEstMachina the Takamagahara system]] can perform Phenomena Intervention to enforce one of the alternate continuities created by the Continuum Shift caused by Noel's lack of control over her power as the Successor of the Azure, is a very complicated way of saying 'the bad guys can do RealityWarping by exploiting the heroine's PowerIncontinence'.
14th Mar '18 4:45:33 PM Malady
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* The MagiBabble in L.E. Modesitt, Jr.'s ''[[SagaOfRecluce Recluce]]'' saga is extremely convincing; it almost feels like real physics.
* Comes up often when Jeff Grubb gets his hands on franchise fiction. Notable works include the Warcraft novel ''[[Literature/WarcraftTheLastGuardian The Last Guardian]]'', and his ''MagicTheGathering'' novels set during Literature/TheBrothersWar (the Antiquities and Urza's Saga sets) and the Ice Age. Seeing as how Grubb often produces some of the better novels in these franchises, his tendency towards magi babble is either forgivable or awesome, especially since the rules he sets down tend to make magic more consistent in later works by others.

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* The MagiBabble in L.E. Modesitt, Jr.'s ''[[SagaOfRecluce Recluce]]'' saga ''Literature/SagaOfRecluce'' is extremely convincing; it almost feels like real physics.
* Comes up often when Jeff Grubb gets his hands on franchise fiction. Notable works include the Warcraft novel ''[[Literature/WarcraftTheLastGuardian The Last Guardian]]'', and his ''MagicTheGathering'' ''Franchise/MagicTheGathering'' novels set during Literature/TheBrothersWar (the Antiquities and Urza's Saga sets) and the Ice Age. Seeing as how Grubb often produces some of the better novels in these franchises, his tendency towards magi babble is either forgivable or awesome, especially since the rules he sets down tend to make magic more consistent in later works by others.
24th Feb '18 9:04:52 PM nombretomado
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[[SciFiCounterpart Like]] TechnoBabble, but about [[FunctionalMagic magic]], typically Rule Magic. This is usually used in series where MagicAIsMagicA, and the rules are defined enough that you can't get away with invoking them in new ways without having to explain it first. See also BlahBlahBlah.

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[[SciFiCounterpart [[JustForFun/SciFiCounterpart Like]] TechnoBabble, but about [[FunctionalMagic magic]], typically Rule Magic. This is usually used in series where MagicAIsMagicA, and the rules are defined enough that you can't get away with invoking them in new ways without having to explain it first. See also BlahBlahBlah.
25th Jan '18 5:54:03 PM nombretomado
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* Taken to the logical extreme in ''Literature/TheDeathGateCycle'' by MargaretWeis and Tracy Hickman: the magi babble is literally indistinguishable from TechnoBabble and ''almost makes sense''.

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* Taken to the logical extreme in ''Literature/TheDeathGateCycle'' by MargaretWeis Creator/MargaretWeis and Tracy Hickman: the magi babble is literally indistinguishable from TechnoBabble and ''almost makes sense''.
1st Dec '17 10:02:50 PM Touko_K
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* The ''Videogame/{{Undertale}}'' FanFic [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Visiontale Visiontale]] utilizes extensive magibabble to explain how magic works. Monsters created their magibabble so they could discuss magic with equal rigor to humans discussing science on the surface.



*** Cimorene admitted her knowledge of magic was limited because her parents were quick to cut off her secret magic lessons. Besides, it's more that Telemain just talks really fast and only Mendanbar, who is used to it from his elf steward, can catch what he's saying, and he's also far more knowledgable about all sorts of magic as the King of the Enchanted Forest is than Cimorene, whose talents tend to be more practical than magical.

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*** Cimorene admitted her knowledge of magic was limited because her parents were quick to cut off her secret magic lessons. Besides, it's more that Telemain just talks really fast and only Mendanbar, who is used to it from his elf steward, can catch what he's saying, and he's also far more knowledgable knowledgeable about all sorts of magic as the King of the Enchanted Forest is than Cimorene, whose talents tend to be more practical than magical.
26th Sep '17 7:58:11 AM Julia1984
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends'' episode "Bright Lights," victims who have their shadow stolen become weak and sick. As Galaxy explains, "That makes sense. No doubt they feel empty and incomplete -- the loss of their shadows being an outward sign of some loss of substance." Good luck trying to understand ''that'' last sentence when you're 5-years-old.
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