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21st May '17 5:34:43 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* In the final episode of ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', [[spoiler: this Trope is played very straight when Aku tries to crush the hopes of any would-be resistance by broadcasting Jack's execution on television. It has the opposite result he intended, with a ''army'' of Jack's allies assaulting his palace in a RoaringRampageOfrescue.]]
11th Apr '17 10:31:41 AM IndustriousArc
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* ''FanFic/ABrighterDark:'' Played straight to the detriment of Ryoma, who tries to use force to keep the self-indulgent and prideful lords under his command in line long enough to win the war against nohr. This comes back to hurt him when 12 of them band together and declare their independence, their total armies out-numbering his own, thus removing his power over them.
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2nd Apr '17 6:44:28 PM Gamermaster
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* In ‘’WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie’’: The Autobots show concern, and reverence for [[AFatherToHisMen Optimus Prime]] even in his dying moments when he’s a liability to them. This is contrasted with [[BadBoss Megatron]] who when wounded, has to [[AintTooProudToBeg beg]] [[TheDragon his second in command]] Soundwave just not to leave him behind. When his Decepticon minions realize they could [[ColdEquation jettison the wounded]] on [[AutomatedAutomobiles AstroTrain]] to make it go faster, Megatron is ThrownOutTheAirlock despite his pleas, no one lifting a finger to help him.

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* In ‘’WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie’’: ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie'': The Autobots show concern, and reverence for [[AFatherToHisMen Optimus Prime]] even in his dying moments when he’s a liability to them. This is contrasted with [[BadBoss Megatron]] who when wounded, has to [[AintTooProudToBeg beg]] [[TheDragon his second in command]] Soundwave just not to leave him behind. When his Decepticon minions realize they could [[ColdEquation jettison the wounded]] on [[AutomatedAutomobiles AstroTrain]] to make it go faster, Megatron is ThrownOutTheAirlock despite his pleas, no one lifting a finger to help him.
9th Mar '17 5:45:19 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Series/BandOfBrothers'': This is presented by two different leaders. Winters clearly loves [[AFatherToHisMen his Easy Company]], treats his men well, and as such the soldiers respect him and would do anything for him. Speirs develops a reputation for being such a Badass that the soldiers in Easy fear him, but respect him because he gets the job done. Played with in that Speirs [[GenreSavvy knows all about the chatter going on behind his back]]:

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* ''Series/BandOfBrothers'': This is presented by two different leaders. Winters clearly loves [[AFatherToHisMen his Easy Company]], treats his men well, and as such the soldiers respect him and would do anything for him. Speirs develops a reputation for being such a Badass that the soldiers in Easy fear him, but respect him because he gets the job done. Played with in that Speirs [[GenreSavvy knows all about the chatter going on behind his back]]:back:
13th Feb '17 9:37:45 AM Paranoia
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** There ''is'' however a story that indicates it may have backfired on him ultimately: his aides and staff were so scared of earning his ire, nobody was willing to go "wake him up" when he was oversleeping by hours and hours one day. Turns out he had suffered a stroke, one that ''may'' not have been fatal if it were caught sooner.
12th Feb '17 10:35:42 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': This seems to be the general ethos of House Tyrell. Loras thinks Renly would make a good king because the smallfolk like him, and Margaery tries this in Season 3 with the people of King's Landing. This makes them a {{foil}} to the Lannisters, who are utterly ruthless and will trample over anybody if it meant getting more power for the family, and [[spoiler:the Tyrells are quickly growing powerful enough to rival them. By Season 4 they marry into the royal family]].

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': This seems to be the general ethos of House Tyrell. Loras thinks Renly would make a good king because the smallfolk like him, him and he would rule through love and respect rather than through strength and fear, and Margaery tries this in Season 3 with the people of King's Landing.Landing by being kind and generous to the poor, causing them to adore her. This makes them a {{foil}} to the Lannisters, who are utterly ruthless and will trample over anybody if it meant getting more power for the family, and [[spoiler:the Tyrells are quickly growing powerful enough to rival them. By Season 4 they marry into the royal family]].
15th Jan '17 12:52:36 AM I_love_dragons
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->''"Whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with...\\

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->''"Whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with...with. ...\\
25th Dec '16 9:14:52 AM Psi001
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** Jessie and James are the exception; while they play the role of antagonists ([[IneffectualSympatheticVillain sort of]]), they get emotionally attached to their Pokémon.

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** Jessie and James are the exception; while they play the role of antagonists ([[IneffectualSympatheticVillain sort of]]), they get emotionally attached to their Pokémon. In turn, most of them are extremely loyal to them, even refusing to abandon them when [[GoOnWithoutMe they try to evacuate or release them]].
14th Dec '16 11:27:59 PM Gitaxias
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* A big part of why villains in ''Literature/APracticalGuideToEvil'' tend to fail. Not only do hated oppressors have a harder time governing, they produce stronger and more numerous Named opponents. While Black is a brilliant tactician and Malicia is an equally brilliant politician, the real reason that they have done as well as they have is because they have worked to improve quality of life rather than just intimidate their followers through force of arms.
4th Dec '16 5:26:30 PM AnEnigmaticSmile
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* ''Manga/MobPsycho100'', Shigeo Kageyama is a 14 year old boy with psychic powers. He chooses not to hurt others with his psychic powers even his enemies, because it is against his morals. He tries to win a battle with another enemy rationally until he gets pressurized to aggression, but that is rare for him. In battle, the emotions he displays at 100% are mostly positive emotions, like confidence, gratitude, friendship and trust.
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