History Main / MIsBlamed

18th Feb '18 11:18:31 AM nombretomado
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For example, you see an anime or manga with great action sequences and an interesting premise, punctuated by bizarre changes by the translators that cheapen this premise, provide a jarring tone, or even make the plot nonsense. You assume it's fallen victim to a ''serious'' {{Macekre}}. So you import the DVD, maybe get a [[RegionCoding region 2 player]] if you live outside the region, and put it in... Surprise! It's not a Macekre after all; what you thought was caused by overzealous translators was just a weakness in the original work. And yet, the fans have [=misblamed=] the translators, and they're not going to stop anytime soon.

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For example, you see an anime or manga with great action sequences and an interesting premise, punctuated by bizarre changes by the translators that cheapen this premise, provide a jarring tone, or even make the plot nonsense. You assume it's fallen victim to a ''serious'' {{Macekre}}. So you import the DVD, maybe get a [[RegionCoding [[UsefulNotes/RegionCoding region 2 player]] if you live outside the region, and put it in... Surprise! It's not a Macekre after all; what you thought was caused by overzealous translators was just a weakness in the original work. And yet, the fans have [=misblamed=] the translators, and they're not going to stop anytime soon.
16th Feb '18 10:17:00 PM nombretomado
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* Many Music/{{Genesis}} fans blame PhilCollins for the band's shift away from ProgressiveRock to pop in TheEighties. Collins [[WordOfGod is on record]] as saying that the shift occurred because Mike Rutherford and TonyBanks saw the solo success he was having and [[MoneyDearBoy wanted a piece of that as well]]. Collins said on his (now defunct) official forum that (paraphrasing from memory) "I'd like to see someone [[StubbornMule convince Tony Banks]] to do something he doesn't want to do!".

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* Many Music/{{Genesis}} fans blame PhilCollins Music/PhilCollins for the band's shift away from ProgressiveRock to pop in TheEighties. Collins [[WordOfGod is on record]] as saying that the shift occurred because Mike Rutherford and TonyBanks saw the solo success he was having and [[MoneyDearBoy wanted a piece of that as well]]. Collins said on his (now defunct) official forum that (paraphrasing from memory) "I'd like to see someone [[StubbornMule convince Tony Banks]] to do something he doesn't want to do!".
11th Feb '18 7:15:32 PM LordDynasmon
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* Speaking of ''Franchise/SuperSentai'', many fans will often claim that ''Series/ChourikiSentaiOhranger'' was the series that almost killed off the franchise, while ''Series/GekisouSentaiCarranger'' was the one that saved the franchise. In reality, the ratings for ''Carranger'' were actually ''lower'' than those of ''Ohranger'' for a good amount of it's run[[note]]in fact, ''Carranger'' has the lowest rated episode in the entirety of the franchise[[/note]], and in terms of toy sales, ''Ohranger'' outsold ''Carranger''[[note]]in fact, ''Ohranger'' is one of the most profitable shows in the entire franchise[[/note]]. [[http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2016/06/fact-checked-did-carranger-save-sentai/ As noted here]], the show that ''actually'' almost killed Super Sentai was actually ''Series/ChikyuuSentaiFiveman'', which was a flop both in ratings and in toy sales[[note]]although the ratings decline had started since ''Goggle V'', the toy sales were a result of poor executive decisions and general shoddy design - one notable example being the decision to produce a large number of Max Magma toys, despite the fact that said mech only appeared for two episodes in the series before being destroyed[[/note]] - it was so bad that Toei decided that they'd make one more show and call it quits on the franchise. Said show, ''Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman'', ended up being a ''huge'' hit, and as a result, Toei decided to continue making Sentai series.

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* Speaking of ''Franchise/SuperSentai'', many fans will often claim that ''Series/ChourikiSentaiOhranger'' was the series that almost killed off the franchise, while ''Series/GekisouSentaiCarranger'' was the one that saved the franchise. In reality, the ratings for ''Carranger'' were actually ''lower'' than those of ''Ohranger'' for a good amount of it's its run[[note]]in fact, ''Carranger'' has the lowest rated episode in the entirety of the franchise[[/note]], and in terms of toy sales, ''Ohranger'' outsold ''Carranger''[[note]]in fact, ''Ohranger'' is one of the most profitable shows in the entire franchise[[/note]]. [[http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2016/06/fact-checked-did-carranger-save-sentai/ As noted here]], the show that ''actually'' almost killed Super Sentai was actually ''Series/ChikyuuSentaiFiveman'', which was a flop both in ratings and in toy sales[[note]]although the ratings decline had started since ''Goggle V'', the toy sales were a result of poor executive decisions and general shoddy design - one notable example being the decision to produce a large number of Max Magma toys, despite the fact that said mech only appeared for two episodes in the series before being destroyed[[/note]] - it was so bad that Toei decided that they'd make one more show and call it quits on the franchise. Said show, ''Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman'', ended up being a ''huge'' hit, and as a result, Toei decided to continue making Sentai series.
10th Feb '18 3:51:12 AM Piterpicher
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** Also according to WordOfGod, as the band were shifted from a five-piece to a four-piece to a trio, the band were attempting to avoid the fights over writing credits and creative input they were facing with the departures of PeterGabriel and Steve Hackett by crediting the entire band with all the songs on each album. They credited individual writers by ''A Trick Of The Tail'' to deflect accusations that Gabriel was [[IAmTheBand the sole visionary]] behind the group's music, which led to the inter-group squabbles (Hackett in particular) they tried so hard to avoid. The band decided to come in the studio with no pre-written material and write collectively in the studio. They also discovered that a great deal of magic came with [[ThrowItIn group improvisations]], and that by shortening the group compositions they could get more of a variety of styles. They were also, by 1981, equipped with their own recording facility (Fisher Lane Farms), and were interested in reinventing their sound for TheEighties, producing their own music along with engineer Hugh Padgham. What came out of these circumstances was ''[[NewSoundAlbum Abacab]]'' and the music they came up with since then. The results of having commercial success with their new sound and approach was simply icing on the cake.

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** Also according to WordOfGod, as the band were shifted from a five-piece to a four-piece to a trio, the band were attempting to avoid the fights over writing credits and creative input they were facing with the departures of PeterGabriel Music/PeterGabriel and Steve Hackett by crediting the entire band with all the songs on each album. They credited individual writers by ''A Trick Of The Tail'' to deflect accusations that Gabriel was [[IAmTheBand the sole visionary]] behind the group's music, which led to the inter-group squabbles (Hackett in particular) they tried so hard to avoid. The band decided to come in the studio with no pre-written material and write collectively in the studio. They also discovered that a great deal of magic came with [[ThrowItIn group improvisations]], and that by shortening the group compositions they could get more of a variety of styles. They were also, by 1981, equipped with their own recording facility (Fisher Lane Farms), and were interested in reinventing their sound for TheEighties, producing their own music along with engineer Hugh Padgham. What came out of these circumstances was ''[[NewSoundAlbum Abacab]]'' and the music they came up with since then. The results of having commercial success with their new sound and approach was simply icing on the cake.
8th Feb '18 1:22:41 PM nanakiro
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** In more recent issues, a number of characters that Penders created have been removed or gone missing while Archie and Penders work out some legal issues over the rights to said characters, causing numerous edits in varying degrees of severity. For all the flak Penders has gotten, Archie's legal team was behind their removal. Technically there wasn't anything wrong in using them, but said legal team didn't want to risk fanning the flames.

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** In more recent the late issues, a number of characters that Penders created have been removed or gone missing while Archie and Penders work out some legal issues over the rights to said characters, causing numerous edits in varying degrees of severity. For all the flak Penders has gotten, Archie's legal team was behind their removal. Technically there wasn't anything wrong in using them, but said legal team didn't want to risk fanning the flames.
30th Jan '18 4:44:31 PM nombretomado
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* Some internet websites such as {{Creator/Hulu}} are often chastised that some or all of their content [[NoExportForYou cannot be viewed outside of the US]]. Some accuse these sites of only "catering" to "{{Eagleland}}ers" (and with Anti-Americanism at its high, [[MisplacedNationalism you can bet that xenophobic remarks will often pop up from this]]). However, this is because of copyright and legal issues between nations and companies preventing the content from being seen legally in other nations. This is also true [[NotSoDifferent for companies from other nations]] as well; just try and use Creator/TheBBC's [=iPlayer=] service from anywhere outside the UK.

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* Some internet websites such as {{Creator/Hulu}} are often chastised that some or all of their content [[NoExportForYou cannot be viewed outside of the US]]. Some accuse these sites of only "catering" to "{{Eagleland}}ers" (and with Anti-Americanism at its high, [[MisplacedNationalism [[UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism you can bet that xenophobic remarks will often pop up from this]]). However, this is because of copyright and legal issues between nations and companies preventing the content from being seen legally in other nations. This is also true [[NotSoDifferent for companies from other nations]] as well; just try and use Creator/TheBBC's [=iPlayer=] service from anywhere outside the UK.
28th Jan '18 4:05:02 PM nombretomado
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* In 2010, {{MGM}} was bashed excessively by internet users (who have been TaintedByThePreview) when ''their financial problems'' delayed production of ''[[Film/{{Skyfall}} Bond 23]]'' and ''Film/TheHobbit'', not to mention remakes of ''Film/RedDawn2012'' and ''Film/RoboCop2014''. Of course, most of these users are fans of these franchises, who believe MGM stole ''James Bond'' from Sony[[note]]who never even owned rights to the franchise except for co-production rights with MGM[[/note]] and ''The Hobbit'' from New Line Cinema[[note]]even though MGM owned the original film rights to Tolkien's works since the early 1970s[[/note]], and that the studio is apparently [[ExecutiveMeddling meddling]] with these projects. This backlash somehow led to [[http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101207160228AAxZ4R5 a Yahoo! Answers question]] asking about it.

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* In 2010, {{MGM}} Creator/{{MGM}} was bashed excessively by internet users (who have been TaintedByThePreview) when ''their financial problems'' delayed production of ''[[Film/{{Skyfall}} Bond 23]]'' and ''Film/TheHobbit'', not to mention remakes of ''Film/RedDawn2012'' and ''Film/RoboCop2014''. Of course, most of these users are fans of these franchises, who believe MGM stole ''James Bond'' from Sony[[note]]who never even owned rights to the franchise except for co-production rights with MGM[[/note]] and ''The Hobbit'' from New Line Cinema[[note]]even though MGM owned the original film rights to Tolkien's works since the early 1970s[[/note]], and that the studio is apparently [[ExecutiveMeddling meddling]] with these projects. This backlash somehow led to [[http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101207160228AAxZ4R5 a Yahoo! Answers question]] asking about it.
27th Jan '18 6:29:58 PM igordebraga
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* While most reviewers managed to avoid falling into the trap of blaming Creator/KevinSmith for the screenplay of ''CopOut'', which he didn't write, many blamed him for what were felt to be weak action sequences in the movie. In fact, Smith didn't direct any of the major action scenes -- David R. Ellis (of ''Film/FinalDestination 2'' and ''4'' fame) was brought in to handle those.

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* While most reviewers managed to avoid falling into the trap of blaming Creator/KevinSmith for the screenplay of ''CopOut'', ''Film/CopOut'', which he didn't write, many blamed him for what were felt to be weak action sequences in the movie. In fact, Smith didn't direct any of the major action scenes -- David R. Ellis (of ''Film/FinalDestination 2'' and ''4'' fame) was brought in to handle those.



** Similarly, when ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' came out, detractors accused Whedon of deliberately ignoring events from previous movies (particularly ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''.) In reality, Whedon had been required to write the script for ''Age'' in isolation, to prevent the possibility of his movie spoiling the major twists of the other movies.

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** Similarly, when ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' came out, detractors accused Whedon of deliberately ignoring events from previous movies (particularly ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''.) ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''). In reality, Whedon had been required to write the script for ''Age'' in isolation, to prevent the possibility of his movie spoiling the major twists of the other movies.



* There seems to be a lot of hatred towards the Wachowskis for the sequels to Film/TheMatrix (including an awful lot of people [[UnfortunateImplications blaming Lana's sex change]] [[InsaneTrollLogic for the quality of the films]], despite the fact that she didn't start her reassignment therapy until well after ''Revolutions'' had already been released). It should be known, however, that there was quite a bit of ExecutiveMeddling with the sequels; originally the siblings wanted to do a prequel and a sequel, but WB didn't want to make a Matrix movie without Keanu, Fishborne, Moss, etc. Thus the prequel idea got shortened into the Second Renaissance segment of The Animatrix and the sequel idea got dragged out into the two-part mess we know today.

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* There seems to be a lot of hatred towards the Wachowskis for the sequels to Film/TheMatrix ''Film/TheMatrix'' (including an awful lot of people [[UnfortunateImplications blaming Lana's sex change]] [[InsaneTrollLogic for the quality of the films]], despite the fact that she didn't start her reassignment therapy until well after ''Revolutions'' had already been released). It should be known, however, that there was quite a bit of ExecutiveMeddling with the sequels; originally the siblings wanted to do a prequel and a sequel, but WB didn't want to make a Matrix movie without Keanu, Fishborne, Fishburne, Moss, etc. Thus the prequel idea got shortened into the Second Renaissance segment of The Animatrix ''TheAnimatrix'' and the sequel idea got dragged out into the two-part mess we know today.



* ''SpiderMan'' fans have blamed Sam Raimi for the critically-divided ''Film/SpiderMan3'' with the addition of [[EvilCounterpart Venom]] and having Mary Jane Watson becoming the damsel in distress for a [[DamselScrappy third time]]. However, those ideas were actually Avi Arad's ideas, and in addition to that Raimi's ideas was to have the Vulture as the secondary villain and Gwen Stacy being the damsel in distress for the final battle, plus Raimi has considered Venom TheScrappy.

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* ''SpiderMan'' ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'' fans have blamed Sam Raimi for the critically-divided ''Film/SpiderMan3'' with the addition of [[EvilCounterpart Venom]] and having Mary Jane Watson becoming the damsel in distress for a [[DamselScrappy third time]]. However, those ideas were actually Avi Arad's ideas, and in addition to that Raimi's ideas was to have the Vulture as the secondary villain and Gwen Stacy being the damsel in distress for the final battle, plus Raimi has considered Venom TheScrappy.



* Richard Lester gets a lot of flack for the campier tone of Superman II as compared to the more serious tone of Superman - The Movie (which was directed by Richard Donner). In fact, given the chaos surrounding the production of Superman II (including the firing of Richard Donner, Gene Hackman walking out and Marlon Brando refusing the use of the footage filmed of him), the fact that Richard Lester was able to get a coherent film out at all is worthy of praise. Plus, as [[http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Superman_II_The_Donner_Cut_2006.aspx this review]] shows, it's not as if Richard Donner's proposed cut would be any less campy. The blame really rests with the producers, Alexander and Ilya Salkind, who insisted on an extremely campy, humorous approach (even moreso than what we ended up getting) similar to the '60s ''Batman'' series, and replaced Donner because he wouldn't give it to them-- neverminding that his vision for the first film became a critical and financial success in spite of their wishes.

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* Richard Lester gets a lot of flack for the campier tone of Superman II ''Film/SupermanII'' as compared to the more serious tone of Superman - The Movie ''Film/{{Superman}}'' (which was directed by Richard Donner). In fact, given the chaos surrounding the production of Superman II ''Superman II'' (including the firing of Richard Donner, Gene Hackman walking out and Marlon Brando refusing the use of the footage filmed of him), the fact that Richard Lester was able to get a coherent film out at all is worthy of praise. Plus, as [[http://www.agonybooth.com/movies/Superman_II_The_Donner_Cut_2006.aspx this review]] shows, it's not as if Richard Donner's proposed cut would be any less campy. The blame really rests with the producers, Alexander and Ilya Salkind, who insisted on an extremely campy, humorous approach (even moreso than what we ended up getting) similar to the '60s ''Batman'' series, and replaced Donner because he wouldn't give it to them-- neverminding that his vision for the first film became a critical and financial success in spite of their wishes.
17th Jan '18 8:43:28 AM mario0987
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** Steven Moffatt often gets blamed for casting a woman to play the Doctor by those who disagree with the idea of a female Doctor. The idea to cast Jodie Whitaker as the Thirteenth Doctor was done by his successor, Chris Chibnal, though Moffatt did lay a lot of the groundwork by canonising the idea of cross sex regenerations. On a related note, the idea of a female Doctor has been around as long as regeneration and it was supported by Sydney Newman, one of the shows original producers.


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** The UK has a different version of the "blame the Prime Minister" fallacy. The Westminster government sometimes gets blamed by people in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland for something that is actually under the control of the various devolved parliaments (and vice versa). Health and Education generally gets excluded since they have been devolved since devolution became a thing.
12th Jan '18 1:04:47 AM Cryoclaste
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* The same criticisms were leveled at Jaime Reyes, the newest ComicBook/BlueBeetle, several years prior. Some fans complained about Ted Kord (the previous Blue Beetle) supposedly being killed off for the sake of diversity, when in reality, KeithGiffen (considered by most to be Ted's [[MyRealDaddy Real Daddy]]) says it's the ''exact opposite'' situation. It had already been decided that Ted would die in the lead-up to ''InfiniteCrisis'', and Jaime Reyes was only conceived as a replacement ''after'' plans for Ted's death were finalized.

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* The same criticisms were leveled at Jaime Reyes, the newest ComicBook/BlueBeetle, several years prior. Some fans complained about Ted Kord (the previous Blue Beetle) supposedly being killed off for the sake of diversity, when in reality, KeithGiffen (considered by most to be Ted's [[MyRealDaddy Real Daddy]]) says it's the ''exact opposite'' situation. It had already been decided that Ted would die in the lead-up to ''InfiniteCrisis'', ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', and Jaime Reyes was only conceived as a replacement ''after'' plans for Ted's death were finalized.
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