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21st Oct '17 11:32:16 AM BKelly95
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* ''Series/NashBridges'' was a fan of this:
** To get a corrupt bail bondsman to confess, he arranged for a group of men who bore a strong resemblance to various skips to board a bus under the guise of getting them out of town when they're supposed to be attending their trials.
** Another time, he tells a suspect that his partner is telling Harvey everything about their crime. The suspect counters with everything he knows, unaware that Harvey is just talking sports with the partner.
** At least twice, Nash and Joe have pretended a dead suspect was still alive and confessing everything to get that suspect's accomplice to talk.
--->'''Accomplice''': Does he have a lawyer?\\
'''Joe''': He hasn't asked for one.
* ''Series/{{Psych}}'' had Juliet do this rather briefly, but it still worked.
-->'''Juliet''': Well, that's okay. We can just check the security cameras in the parking garage.\\
'''Suspect''': [[SayingTooMuch There were no cameras in that...garage.]]


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* The book ''America's Dumbest Criminals'' once recounted the time a police detective bought a new fingerprint kit and tested it on himself. Later, he interrogated a suspect and took out the card with his own fingerprints on it, implying it was taken from the crime scene. This is a borderline case as he never outright said the fingerprints were the suspect's.
25th Sep '17 4:29:43 PM sonicsuns3
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* According to Creator/DavidSimon in ''Homicide'', this is basically a requirement of being a detective. A good detective must be able to read a suspect his Miranda rights, (and in Baltimore) sign a paper showing they've understood them, and then in the very next breath convince the suspect that those rights are meaningless. From there, it's half-truths and lies all the way. For example: One common trick is to confiscate the suspect's shoes and tell the suspect that they're going to check that blood splatter on them to see if it's the victim's blood type. It serves a double-whammy: The suspect is convinced they have evidence, and their faith in themselves is shot; hell, they didn't even notice that any blood splatter had hit their shoes!

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* According to Creator/DavidSimon in ''Homicide'', this is basically a requirement of being a detective. A good detective must be able to read a suspect his Miranda rights, (and in Baltimore) sign a paper showing they've understood them, and then in the very next breath convince the suspect that those rights are meaningless. From there, it's half-truths and lies all the way. For example: One common trick is to confiscate the suspect's shoes and tell the suspect that they're going to check that blood splatter on them to see if it's the victim's blood type. It serves a double-whammy: The suspect is convinced they have evidence, and their faith in themselves is shot; hell, they didn't even notice ''notice'' that any blood splatter had hit their shoes!
9th Aug '17 6:12:10 AM WillBGood
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* In an episode of ''Series/{{Mash}}'' Hawkeye is wrongly accused of stealing. So he gathers the alternative suspects together in one tent (while dressed up as Sherlock Holmes) and says one of the stolen items was a trap -- it had been coated in a chemical that turns the hands blue. When the guilty party instinctively hides his hands, Hawkeye points out that he was actually bluffing.

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* In an episode of ''Series/{{Mash}}'' ''Series/{{MASH}}'' Hawkeye is wrongly accused of stealing. So he gathers the alternative suspects together in one tent (while dressed up as Sherlock Holmes) and says one of the stolen items was a trap -- it had been coated in a chemical that turns the hands blue. When the guilty party instinctively hides his hands, Hawkeye points out that he was actually bluffing.
23rd Jul '17 9:25:19 PM Discar
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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': PlayedForLaughs in [[Recap/CommunityS1E02Spanish101 the second episode]].
-->'''Dean:''' ''[over P.A.]'' To whoever is growing a small patch of cannabis behind the gymnasium, congratulations, you have won a cruise. Report to Security to claim your tickets.
9th Apr '17 10:04:51 AM nombretomado
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* The "Truth Crocodile" in RozenMaiden.

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* The "Truth Crocodile" in RozenMaiden.''Manga/RozenMaiden''.
17th Mar '17 5:13:58 AM ChronoLegion
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** When Worf's family is accused of treason by the Klingon High Council, Picard -- suspecting the accusation is a cover-up -- calls a woman who served Worf's family as witness, falsely claiming that she has new evidence. The bluff reveals the real traitor, though the High Council is too compromised to drop the charges and Worf is banished from Klingon society.

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** When Worf's family is accused of treason by the Klingon High Council, Picard -- suspecting the accusation is a cover-up -- calls a woman who served Worf's family as witness, falsely claiming that she has new evidence. The bluff reveals the real traitor, though the High Council is too compromised to drop the charges and Worf is banished from Klingon society. In fact, the only reason K'mpec even agreed to accuse Worf's father is because he believed only Worf remained of that family, and Worf was safely outside their jurisdiction. He didn't expect Worf to actually go to Qo'noS to defend his father's honor or for Worf to have a brother, living as member of another House.
19th Feb '17 11:54:28 AM TheWanderer
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* An undercover cop pulling a buy-and-bust on ''Series/BreakingBad'' rouses Badger's suspicions, but he covers himself by saying "If you ask a cop straight-up if he's a cop, they ''have'' to say yes. It's like, a law or something." He's asked, he denies it solemnly with his hand to God, and they complete the deal. "You have the right to remain silent..."

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* An undercover cop pulling a buy-and-bust on ''Series/BreakingBad'' rouses Badger's suspicions, but he covers himself by saying "If you ask a cop straight-up if he's a cop, they ''have'' to say yes. [[MustStateIfYoureACop It's like, a law in the Constitution or something.something]]." He's asked, he denies it solemnly with his hand to God, and they complete the deal. "You have About five seconds after completing the right to remain silent..."deal, the cop busts Badger.
6th Jan '17 8:04:58 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ''Series/{{QI}}'' described an Elizabethan mathematician, John Napier, who "[[FreudWasRight encouraged his servants to stroke his cock]]" - one of them had been stealing, and he got them all together and told them his pet cockerel [[TooDumbToLive could tell when someone who touched it was lying]]. He sent them into a dark room and told them to stroke it, while unbeknownst to them it was covered in soot - the guilty servant was the only one not to have soot on his hands.

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* ''Series/{{QI}}'' described an Elizabethan mathematician, John Napier, who "[[FreudWasRight encouraged "encouraged his servants to stroke his cock]]" cock" - one of them had been stealing, and he got them all together and told them his pet cockerel [[TooDumbToLive could tell when someone who touched it was lying]]. He sent them into a dark room and told them to stroke it, while unbeknownst to them it was covered in soot - the guilty servant was the only one not to have soot on his hands.
16th Dec '16 2:39:13 PM Jacob175
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-->'''Aiden:''' Officers can lie to the suspects. Legally''.

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-->'''Aiden:''' Officers can lie to the suspects. Legally''.Legally.



--> '''Gideon''': Is that why you stabbed him in the groin?"

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--> '''Gideon''': Is that why you stabbed him in the groin?"groin?



* Early on in SuikodenI, Odessa uses this to confirm that the pick-up man for a vital blueprint she needed delivered was the real deal (he is).

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* Early on in SuikodenI, VideoGame/SuikodenI, Odessa uses this to confirm that the pick-up man for a vital blueprint she needed delivered was the real deal (he is).



* ''TheSimpsons'', with the Springfield police catching Homer Simpson by sending him a letter that he'd won a motorboat, before nailing him for his unpaid parking tickets. Despite this [[WhatanIdiot Homer still demanded his motorboat]].

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* ''TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', with the Springfield police catching Homer Simpson by sending him a letter that he'd won a motorboat, before nailing him for his unpaid parking tickets. Despite this [[WhatanIdiot [[WhatAnIdiot Homer still demanded his motorboat]].
13th Dec '16 8:57:10 AM Gosicrystal
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* One case in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' was ended successfully by Phoenix's use of such a lie (confusing the color of a poison vial) to confess (by way of correcting the color, implying that he would have to have done it to know what the real color was).
---> '''Phoenix''': [[spoiler:This bottle has your fingerprints all over it! And it contains... potassium cyanide!]]
---> [[spoiler:'''Tigre''': (laughs) I can see through you Phoenix Wright! That ain't the bottle with the cyanide in it.]]
---> '''Phoenix''': [[spoiler:No, no. This is the bottle we found traces of the poison in.]]
---> [[spoiler:'''Tigre''': Don't mess with The Tiger or you're going to get ripped to shreds! The cyanide bottle was BROWN. And it was made of glass. That cheap piece of trash don't look nothin' like that!]]
---> [[spoiler:(Phoenix just stares at him, Godot's visor is smoking, the judge is shocked and the whole court room is completely silent)]]
---> '''Phoenix''': [[spoiler: (Got him. At lastů)]]
---> [[spoiler:'''Tigre''': Wh-What? Why's everyone gone quiet?]]
---> '''Phoenix''': [[spoiler: You were summoned to court for the first time. If you really have nothing to do with this you shouldn't have know those details. How did you know the exact description of the bottle that contains potassium cyanide?]]
** And another involved an extremely subtle lie. [[spoiler: 'Adrian Andrews' is a pretty masculine name, so Wright leads Shelly De Killer on by letting Shelly lie about his meeting with Adrian. He uses male pronouns, so Shelly uses them too...and then Wright accuses him of lying about having ever met Adrian in the first place. Adrian is a woman.]]

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* One case in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' ''Franchise/AceAttorney'':
** Case 3-3
was ended successfully by Phoenix's use of such a lie (confusing the color of a poison vial) to confess (by way of correcting the color, implying that he would have to have done it to know what the real color was).
---> '''Phoenix''': [[spoiler:This bottle has your fingerprints all over it! And it contains... potassium cyanide!]]
---> [[spoiler:'''Tigre''': (laughs) I can see through you Phoenix Wright! That ain't the bottle with the cyanide in it.]]
---> '''Phoenix''': [[spoiler:No, no. This is the bottle we found traces of the poison in.]]
---> [[spoiler:'''Tigre''': Don't mess with The Tiger or you're going to get ripped to shreds! The cyanide bottle was BROWN. And it was made of glass. That cheap piece of trash don't look nothin' like that!]]
---> [[spoiler:(Phoenix just stares at him, Godot's visor is smoking, the judge is shocked and the whole court room is completely silent)]]
---> '''Phoenix''': [[spoiler: (Got him. At lastů)]]
---> [[spoiler:'''Tigre''': Wh-What? Why's everyone gone quiet?]]
---> '''Phoenix''': [[spoiler: You were summoned to court for the first time. If you really have nothing to do with this you shouldn't have know those details. How did you know the exact description of the bottle that contains potassium cyanide?]]
** And another involved an extremely subtle lie. [[spoiler: 'Adrian In Case 2-4, [[spoiler:'Adrian Andrews' is a pretty masculine name, so Wright leads Shelly De Killer on by letting Shelly lie about his meeting with Adrian. He uses male pronouns, so Shelly uses them too...and then Wright accuses him of lying about having ever met Adrian in the first place. Adrian is a woman.]]woman]].



* An amusing example in in ''[[Franchise/TheElderScrolls The Elder Scrolls]]'': One of the in-game books (found in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim) tells of a prince who throws a lavish dinner for several of his advisers. After dinner, he brings out a dessert and explains that some of the advisers are spies and were poisoned during the dinner (the narrator is in fact a spy, and it's strongly hinted that [[FlockOfWolves the rest of the advisers present]] are spies as well). He then says that the dessert contains the antidote. This presents [[MortonsFork a conundrum]] to the attendees - eat the dessert and essentially confess to being a spy, or refrain and possibly die from poison? One of them finally decides to eat... [[spoiler: and dies rather horribly from the poison in the dessert]]. The tale ends with the narrator begging his superiors to be removed from his position. "I cannot win at the games [[MagnificentBastard he]] mastered long ago."

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* An amusing example in in ''[[Franchise/TheElderScrolls The Elder Scrolls]]'': One of the in-game books (found in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim) tells of a prince who throws a lavish dinner for several of his advisers. After dinner, he brings out a dessert and explains that some of the advisers are spies and were poisoned during the dinner (the narrator is in fact a spy, and it's strongly hinted that [[FlockOfWolves the rest of the advisers present]] are spies as well). He then says that the dessert contains the antidote. This presents [[MortonsFork a conundrum]] to the attendees - -- eat the dessert and essentially confess to being a spy, or refrain and possibly die from poison? One of them finally decides to eat... [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and dies rather horribly from the poison in the dessert]]. The tale ends with the narrator begging his superiors to be removed from his position. "I cannot win at the games [[MagnificentBastard he]] mastered long ago."
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