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3rd Sep '17 7:35:55 PM wolftickets1969
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}: Broken Steel'', the Feral Ghoul Reaver was a BossInMookClothing LightningBruiser with the durability of an Abrams tank and overpowered ranged attacks in addition to dealing Deathclaw-level melee damage. In ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', while still packing a punch, they are more of an EliteMook variation of the standard Feral.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}: Broken Steel'', the Feral Ghoul Reaver was a BossInMookClothing LightningBruiser with the durability of an Abrams tank and overpowered ranged attacks in addition to dealing Deathclaw-level speed and melee damage. In ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', while still packing a punch, they are more of an EliteMook variation of the standard Feral.
3rd Sep '17 7:31:06 PM wolftickets1969
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}: Broken Steel'', the Feral Ghoul Reaver was a BossInMookClothing LightningBruiser with the durability of an Abrams tank and overpowered ranged attacks in addition to dealing Deathclaw-level melee damage. In ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', while still packing a punch, they are more of an EliteMook variation of the standard Feral.
3rd Sep '17 7:23:17 PM wolftickets1969
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* ''VideoGame/BlasterMaster'''s ThatOneBoss, [[GiantEnemyCrab Hard Shell]], is the WarmUpBoss of ''Overdrive''.
4th Aug '17 10:06:16 AM Sharlee
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* '''You can see it coming.''' Early in the movie or show, [[MonsterDelay the monster hides in the shadows, and kills its prey without even being seen.]] It can also [[OffscreenTeleportation be anywhere it wants to be as long as nobody was looking at it.]] Now it can be detected from a distance, and moves a lot slower. The heroine can outrun it long enough for an escape plan.

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* '''You can see it coming.''' Early in the movie or show, [[MonsterDelay the monster hides in the shadows, shadows,]] and [[SuspiciouslyStealthyPredator kills its prey without even being seen.]] It can also [[OffscreenTeleportation be anywhere it wants to be as long as nobody was looking at it.]] Now it can be detected from a distance, and moves a lot slower. The heroine can outrun it long enough for an escape plan.
17th Mar '17 6:55:18 PM nombretomado
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** Especially odd in Gilgamesh's case. Canonically, he is the single most powerful Servant, PERIOD. It's generally agreed that, while not the most powerful character in the NasuVerse (Zelretch and Archetype Earth can probably beat him), against any other Servant there is no reason he should ever lose. The only reason Enuma Elish is survivable at all is because he's deliberately holding back its full strength. The guy is deliberately lowering his own difficulty, mainly due to his ''galactic''-sized ego. If he was a bit less arrogant and a bit more of a CombatPragmatist, he'd wipe the floor with everyone. He only unleashes Ea at full force once: against ''LightNovel/FateZero'' Rider ([[spoiler: Alexander the Great]]). He uses it to destroy Rider's Reality Marble (read: Alternate Dimension). And, as expected, the full power of the sword is so overwhelming that it instantly {{curbstomp|Battle}}s the second strongest servant's ultimate attack.

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** Especially odd in Gilgamesh's case. Canonically, he is the single most powerful Servant, PERIOD. It's generally agreed that, while not the most powerful character in the NasuVerse {{Franchise/Nasuverse}} (Zelretch and Archetype Earth can probably beat him), against any other Servant there is no reason he should ever lose. The only reason Enuma Elish is survivable at all is because he's deliberately holding back its full strength. The guy is deliberately lowering his own difficulty, mainly due to his ''galactic''-sized ego. If he was a bit less arrogant and a bit more of a CombatPragmatist, he'd wipe the floor with everyone. He only unleashes Ea at full force once: against ''LightNovel/FateZero'' Rider ([[spoiler: Alexander the Great]]). He uses it to destroy Rider's Reality Marble (read: Alternate Dimension). And, as expected, the full power of the sword is so overwhelming that it instantly {{curbstomp|Battle}}s the second strongest servant's ultimate attack.
26th Feb '17 12:16:50 PM nombretomado
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* ''IpMan'' shows the fourth clause in his fight against ten Japanese pugilists. Immediately before that, in Master Liu's [[spoiler: final]] 3v1 fight, the Japanese pugilists were clearly working together to prevent him from comboing any of their number down. However, when the titular hero goes to bat, none of them interfere when he pulls off his RapidFireFisticuffs FinishingMove on any of them. It would perhaps have made the fight more "realistic" to have them interrupt. It would also have further increased Ip Man's badass quotient if he had done [[Film/TheBourneSeries Jason Bourne]]-style OffhandBackhand "wait your turn" strikes to stop interlopers.

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* ''IpMan'' ''Film/IpMan'' shows the fourth clause in his fight against ten Japanese pugilists. Immediately before that, in Master Liu's [[spoiler: final]] 3v1 fight, the Japanese pugilists were clearly working together to prevent him from comboing any of their number down. However, when the titular hero goes to bat, none of them interfere when he pulls off his RapidFireFisticuffs FinishingMove on any of them. It would perhaps have made the fight more "realistic" to have them interrupt. It would also have further increased Ip Man's badass quotient if he had done [[Film/TheBourneSeries Jason Bourne]]-style OffhandBackhand "wait your turn" strikes to stop interlopers.
22nd Nov '16 4:36:48 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''IpMan'' shows the fourth clause in his fight against ten Japanese pugilists. Immediately before that, in Master Liu's [[spoiler: final]] 3v1 fight, the Japanese pugilists were clearly working together to prevent him from comboing any of their number down. However, when the titular hero goes to bat, none of them interfere when he pulls off his RapidFireFisticuffs FinishingMove on any of them. It would perhaps have made the fight more "realistic" to have them interrupt. It would also have further increased Ip Man's {{badass}} quotient if he had done [[Film/TheBourneSeries Jason Bourne]]-style OffhandBackhand "wait your turn" strikes to stop interlopers.

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* ''IpMan'' shows the fourth clause in his fight against ten Japanese pugilists. Immediately before that, in Master Liu's [[spoiler: final]] 3v1 fight, the Japanese pugilists were clearly working together to prevent him from comboing any of their number down. However, when the titular hero goes to bat, none of them interfere when he pulls off his RapidFireFisticuffs FinishingMove on any of them. It would perhaps have made the fight more "realistic" to have them interrupt. It would also have further increased Ip Man's {{badass}} badass quotient if he had done [[Film/TheBourneSeries Jason Bourne]]-style OffhandBackhand "wait your turn" strikes to stop interlopers.
9th Oct '16 5:20:02 AM erforce
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* To an extent, the Kraken in the second ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movie. In its first appearance, it snaps a (small) ship with its mighty tentacles while dragging it down in instant. In the subsequent appearances, menacing the heroes, its tentacles slowly curl around the (significantly larger) ships. Since Will Turner had been subject to an attack on the Kraken's second victim, he was able to quickly devise a plan to temporarily counter it. Perhaps because they couldn't find a way to have the heroes kill it without it being an even worse case, in ''At World's End'' [[spoiler:Davey Jones kills it himself under orders of Beckett [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome entirely offscreen]]. This may be intentional; the biggest, baddest thing in the entire series, and Beckett doesn't even let us see it die. When we actually see its corpse, it's sad and pitiable instead of mighty and terrifying.]]

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* To an extent, the Kraken in the second ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' movie.''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest''. In its first appearance, it snaps a (small) ship with its mighty tentacles while dragging it down in instant. In the subsequent appearances, menacing the heroes, its tentacles slowly curl around the (significantly larger) ships. Since Will Turner had been subject to an attack on the Kraken's second victim, he was able to quickly devise a plan to temporarily counter it. Perhaps because they couldn't find a way to have the heroes kill it without it being an even worse case, in ''At ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanAtWorldsEnd At World's End'' End]]'' [[spoiler:Davey Jones kills it himself under orders of Beckett [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome entirely offscreen]]. This may be intentional; the biggest, baddest thing in the entire series, and Beckett doesn't even let us see it die. When we actually see its corpse, it's sad and pitiable instead of mighty and terrifying.]]



* Roger Ebert called this the "Hero's Death Battle Exemption" and cited ''Film/{{Prophecy}}'' as an example. In this movie, a killer bear shredded normal humans in seconds, but was considerate enough to let the hero stab it in the head multiple times with an arrow, which took ten times longer than it had killed anyone previously.

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* Roger Ebert Creator/RogerEbert called this the "Hero's Death Battle Exemption" and cited ''Film/{{Prophecy}}'' as an example. In this movie, a killer bear shredded normal humans in seconds, but was considerate enough to let the hero stab it in the head multiple times with an arrow, which took ten times longer than it had killed anyone previously.
4th Oct '16 12:31:23 AM DarkHunter
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** Especially odd in Gilgamesh's case. Canonically, he is the single most powerful Servant, PERIOD. It's generally agreed that, while not the most powerful character in the NasuVerse (Zelretch and Archetype Earth can probably beat him), against any other Servant there is no reason he should ever lose. The only reason Enuma Elish is survivable at all is because he's deliberately holding back its full strength. The guy is deliberately lowering his own difficulty, mainly due to his ''galactic''-sized ego. If he was a bit less arrogant and a bit more of a CombatPragmatist, he'd wipe the floor with everyone.
*** However, he could potentially destroy himself if he used more power, Ea being an Anti-World Noble Phantasm and all.
*** Gilgamesh does unleash Ea at full force once: Against ''LightNovel/FateZero'' Rider ([[spoiler: Alexander the Great]]). He uses it to destroy Rider's Reality Marble (read: Alternate Dimension). And, as expected, the full power of the sword is so overwhelming that it instantly {{curbstomp|Battle}}s the second strongest servant's ultimate attack.

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** Especially odd in Gilgamesh's case. Canonically, he is the single most powerful Servant, PERIOD. It's generally agreed that, while not the most powerful character in the NasuVerse (Zelretch and Archetype Earth can probably beat him), against any other Servant there is no reason he should ever lose. The only reason Enuma Elish is survivable at all is because he's deliberately holding back its full strength. The guy is deliberately lowering his own difficulty, mainly due to his ''galactic''-sized ego. If he was a bit less arrogant and a bit more of a CombatPragmatist, he'd wipe the floor with everyone.
*** However, he could potentially destroy himself if he used more power, Ea being an Anti-World Noble Phantasm and all.
*** Gilgamesh does unleash
everyone. He only unleashes Ea at full force once: Against against ''LightNovel/FateZero'' Rider ([[spoiler: Alexander the Great]]). He uses it to destroy Rider's Reality Marble (read: Alternate Dimension). And, as expected, the full power of the sword is so overwhelming that it instantly {{curbstomp|Battle}}s the second strongest servant's ultimate attack.
9th Aug '16 4:18:19 AM Ripburger
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* An entirely different type of "lowered monster difficulty" is in R&D games like ''VideoGame/XCom''; you gain new technology that outclasses even the BigBad aliens. This isn't CantCatchUp as the examples there do not match the case: Your entire team gets better; none of your characters gets left behind. The [[BigBad enemies]] get more powerful by normal SortingAlgorithmOfEvil, but your team gets more powerful faster.

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* An entirely different type of "lowered monster difficulty" is in R&D games like ''VideoGame/XCom''; ''[[{{VideoGame/XCOM}} X-COM]]''; you gain new technology that outclasses even the BigBad aliens. This isn't CantCatchUp as the examples there do not match the case: Your entire team gets better; none of your characters gets left behind. The [[BigBad enemies]] get more powerful by normal SortingAlgorithmOfEvil, but your team gets more powerful faster.
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