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19th Feb '18 9:21:32 AM Commander_Ysenir
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***Even the Brotherhood of Steel and the Enclave can be argued to fall under the "low culture" part of this trope. The Brotherhood of Steel in [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas the West]] has fallen into dogmatism and fundamentalism and makes no attempt to improve their technology, research new ones or actually put it to use, and they mostly focus on military technology to the detriment of more mundane but still incredibly practical ones like agriculture. The only thing they do is hoard technology and wait for "when the time is right" while other factions like the [[TheRepublic NCR]] or the [[ChaoticGood Followers of the Apocalypse]] just move on and in the case of the NCR, manage to actually force the Brotherhood of Steel into hiding. It's gotten so bad that when Elder Lyons of the [[VideoGame/Fallout3 Capital Wasteland]] attempted to actually use their technology and manpower to make a difference in the Wasteland he was branded a traitor and suffered a civil war. The Enclave meanwhile has learned no lesson from the Old World and the Great War and attempts to pursue cruel genocide of the entirety of mainland North America and even the world beyond so that the "Master Race" (read "any human who has not been exposed to mutagens, such as the Enclave or people in Vaults") can reclaim the world.
29th Jan '18 2:07:14 AM MrBrickMonkey
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* What happens when traditional "sons, not daughters" societies as in the Middle East, India and China gain access to prenatal gender testing and abortion? Well despite laws actively trying to prevent it, the birth ratio is as skewed as 100 male to 90 female newborns in some places. If there were no laws against it, the ratio would probably be even worse. China, in particular, has a massive problem with this in that there is now a whole industry build around human trafficking and forcefully marriage.

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* What happens when traditional "sons, not daughters" societies as in the Middle East, India and China gain access to prenatal gender testing and abortion? Well despite Despite laws actively trying to prevent it, the birth ratio is as skewed as 100 male to 90 female newborns in some places. If there were no laws against it, the ratio would probably be even worse. China, in particular, has a massive problem struggles with this in that these technologies as there is now a whole industry build built around human trafficking and forcefully forced marriage.
28th Jan '18 1:34:04 AM Fireblood
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There was no surprise in the fact they were hated for it and treated like [[SelfDemonstratingArticle primitives suddenly endowed]] with power and technology. The ''nouveau riche'' attitude of the political leadership, with men like Robert Ley, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Weber_%28SS_general%29 Christian Weber]], and Hermann Goering ruling their departments and flaunting their wealth like [[TheDon Mafia bosses]], only made things worse. In more practical terms, the Nazis took the same attitude to Jewish scientists like UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein and rejected their research in favor of promoting hare-brained ideas in physics and other fields simply because non-Jewish Germans came up with them. Among the results of that bigotry were that many of those scientists fled to nations like Britain and the United States, which gave them the advantage of the skilled personnel needed to develop nuclear weapons.[[note]]The (few) top-tier physicists remaining in Germany capable of designing atomic weapons (Heisenberg, for example) had no intention of doing so for the Nazis; several of them even managed to get themselves put in charge of atomic research specifically so that they could make sure nothing practical ever came of it. What ''did'' come out of it, but thankfully never actually used, would be something we call a "Dirty Nuke", which is essentially putting nuclear material and copious amounts of explosives together, then detonating the contraption to spread nuclear pollution over a very wide area.[[/note]]

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There was no surprise in the fact they were hated for it and treated like [[SelfDemonstratingArticle primitives suddenly endowed]] with power and technology. The ''nouveau riche'' attitude of the political leadership, with men like Robert Ley, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Weber_%28SS_general%29 Christian Weber]], and Hermann Goering ruling their departments and flaunting their wealth like [[TheDon Mafia bosses]], only made things worse. In more practical terms, the Nazis took the same attitude to Jewish scientists like UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein and rejected their research in favor of promoting hare-brained ideas in physics and other fields simply because non-Jewish Germans came up with them. Among the results of that bigotry were that many of those scientists fled to nations like Britain and the United States, which gave them the advantage of the skilled personnel needed to develop nuclear weapons. The ones remaining were ''forbidden'' to utilize Jewish scientists' work too.[[note]]The (few) top-tier physicists remaining in Germany capable of designing atomic weapons (Heisenberg, for example) had no intention of doing so for the Nazis; several of them even managed to get themselves put in charge of atomic research specifically so that they could make sure nothing practical ever came of it. What ''did'' come out of it, but thankfully never actually used, would be something we call a "Dirty Nuke", bomb", which is essentially putting nuclear material and copious amounts of explosives together, then detonating the contraption to spread nuclear pollution over a very wide area.[[/note]]



** Conversely it's sometimes said that the safest co-pilot to have in the cockpit is an Australian, because they are culturally least likely to recognise ''any'' hierarchy except that of professional competence, and are thus more likely than any other nationality to tell an erroneous Captain what he's doing wrong.

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** Conversely it's sometimes said that the safest co-pilot to have in the cockpit is an Australian, because they are culturally least likely to recognise ''any'' hierarchy except that of professional competence, and are thus more likely than any other nationality to tell an erroneous Captain captain what he's doing wrong.



* The fundamentalist terrorist group Islamic State (aka ISIS/ISIL/whatever) has access to modern weaponry (assault rifles, missile launchers, explosives, even some stolen tanks), yet their beliefs in regards to women's rights, LGBT rights, science, etc. are straight out of the Dark Ages, as they take a very, '''very''' literal reading of the quran (which results in most of the victims of their reign of terror being other Muslims with more moderate views, since to ISIS, these folks are just doing it wrong). Reality has also ensued when it comes to how their society worked: Children in schools weren't taught math or science, and while their fanaticism and sheer numbers were great against the fractured and poorly motivated Iraqi Army at first, once the West stepped in and not only began bombing them from the air, but the Iraqis got their act together, they've now been beaten back out of nearly all of their territory and they're unlikely to last much longer as a "nation".

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* The fundamentalist terrorist group Islamic State (aka ISIS/ISIL/whatever) has access to modern weaponry (assault rifles, missile launchers, explosives, even some stolen tanks), yet their beliefs in regards to women's rights, LGBT rights, science, etc. are straight out of the Dark Ages, as they take a very, '''very''' literal reading of the quran Quran (which results in most of the victims of their reign of terror being other Muslims with more moderate views, since to ISIS, these folks are just doing it wrong). Reality has also ensued when it comes to how their society worked: Children children in schools weren't taught math or science, and while their fanaticism and sheer numbers were great against the fractured and poorly motivated Iraqi Army at first, once the West stepped in and not only began bombing them from the air, but the Iraqis got their act together, they've now been beaten back out of nearly all of their territory and they're unlikely to last much longer as a "nation".
26th Jan '18 11:53:21 AM MrBrickMonkey
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Related to InsufficientlyAdvancedAlien, which is about a race that's interstellar, but every other tech they have sucks comparatively, ''and'' they probably don't understand it. compare CrystalSpiresAndTogas . Contrast RockBeatsLaser. The NobleSavage inverts this trope, being essentially High Culture, Low Tech. See also BambooTechnology, AliensNeverInventedTheWheel, ScavengerWorld, GivingRadioToTheRomans, TechnologyUplift and CargoCult. Not to be confused with "[[CyberPunk High Tech and Low Life.]]" Compare KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect, when a society undervalues the profession that make its desired lifestyle possible.

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Related to InsufficientlyAdvancedAlien, which is about a race that's interstellar, but every other tech they have sucks comparatively, ''and'' they probably don't understand it. compare CrystalSpiresAndTogas .Compare CrystalSpiresAndTogas. Contrast RockBeatsLaser. The NobleSavage inverts this trope, being essentially High Culture, Low Tech. See also BambooTechnology, AliensNeverInventedTheWheel, ScavengerWorld, GivingRadioToTheRomans, TechnologyUplift and CargoCult. Not to be confused with "[[CyberPunk High Tech and Low Life.]]" Compare KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect, when a society undervalues the profession that make its desired lifestyle possible.
5th Jan '18 6:09:11 PM DialgaX
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5th Jan '18 6:08:49 PM DialgaX
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* India has a space program and is a [[UsefulNotes/TheThirdEyeOfBharat nuclear power]]. Yet, [[http://www.indiaspend.com/cover-story/63-million-indians-without-clean-drinking-water-population-of-australiaswedensri-lankabulgaria-13088 63 million]] of its people don't have access to clean drinking water and [[https://thewire.in/197455/732-million-india-tops-list-number-people-without-access-toilets-report/ 732 million people]] don't have access to toilets.
** On that note, [[http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-17362837 more people have cell phones]] than indoor toilets.
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4th Jan '18 6:01:01 PM nombretomado
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[[caption-width-right:350:Harold [[EyeScream pwned by arrow]] lol. [[TheHouseOfNormandy William]] probs king by xmas. Bk home soon, cya then k? luv u x]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Harold [[EyeScream pwned by arrow]] lol. [[TheHouseOfNormandy [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfNormandy William]] probs king by xmas. Bk home soon, cya then k? luv u x]]
4th Dec '17 5:13:23 AM RobTan
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** The [[AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho Big Finish]] audio drama "Spare Parts" reveals that Mondas, homeworld of the the original Cybermen was this. Their technology was centuries ahead of Earth, their society was stuck in TheFifties, and culturally dead. The Doctor notes that the church and movie theatre are boarded up and abandoned, and magnificent golden statues have been left to gather dust, as all resources are devoted to base survival, and nobody cares about things like art and religion anymore.
26th Nov '17 6:44:09 AM Gen
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* The fundamentalist terrorist group Islamic State (aka ISIS/ISIL/whatever) has access to modern weaponry (assault rifles, missile launchers, explosives, even some stolen tanks), yet their beliefs in regards to women's rights, LGBT rights, science, etc. are straight out of the Dark Ages, as they take a very, '''very''' literal reading of the quran (which results in most of the victims of their reign of terror being other Muslims with more moderate views, since to ISIS, these folks are just doing it wrong). Reality has also ensued when it comes to how their society worked: Children in schools weren't taught math or science, and while their fanaticism and sheer numbers were great against the fractured and poorly motivated Iraqi Army at first, once the West stepped in and not only began bombing them from the air, but the Iraqis got their act together, they've now been beaten back out of nearly all of their territory and they're unlikely to last much longer. Except for the fact that they have since scattered like cockroaches in the light to Western countries, particularly the EU which has lost all control over its borders.

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* The fundamentalist terrorist group Islamic State (aka ISIS/ISIL/whatever) has access to modern weaponry (assault rifles, missile launchers, explosives, even some stolen tanks), yet their beliefs in regards to women's rights, LGBT rights, science, etc. are straight out of the Dark Ages, as they take a very, '''very''' literal reading of the quran (which results in most of the victims of their reign of terror being other Muslims with more moderate views, since to ISIS, these folks are just doing it wrong). Reality has also ensued when it comes to how their society worked: Children in schools weren't taught math or science, and while their fanaticism and sheer numbers were great against the fractured and poorly motivated Iraqi Army at first, once the West stepped in and not only began bombing them from the air, but the Iraqis got their act together, they've now been beaten back out of nearly all of their territory and they're unlikely to last much longer. Except for the fact that they have since scattered like cockroaches in the light to Western countries, particularly the EU which has lost all control over its borders.longer as a "nation".
18th Nov '17 12:09:48 PM Carliro
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* Nowadays generally averted in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' (which both tends towards [[MedievalStasis less technology]] and more social progress, making it the inverse), but there are a few examples in [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness early]] flavor:
** [[{{Precursors}} The Thran]], an advanced technological empire with so minimal actual understanding of technology that it borders on the idiotic. See Yawgmoth's quote on BlackBox.
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