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23rd Jun '16 1:33:36 PM Discar
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* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'': The company discovers a cache of technology from a lost era of galactic history, along with the inheritors of that cache, who are happy to hire the company as thanks for reviving them. They quickly find that they have difficulty selling any of this technology, because all their potential customers know that "technology from a lost era" is a blatant con.
16th Jun '16 6:41:16 PM MyFinalEdits
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* While the ''Zelda'' series has plenty of examples of SchizoTech, actual LostTechnology has only appeared in the last few games.

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* While the ''Zelda'' ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' series has plenty of examples of SchizoTech, actual LostTechnology Lost Technology has only appeared in much later during the last few games.seventh generation and onward:
16th Jun '16 4:47:13 PM wwtoonlinkfan
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* A few centuries prior to ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', there was a thriving civilization made up mostly of sapient robots (and, probably, a related civilization that made the robots), with antigravity technology, mastery of electricity, and other technology to put modern Earth to shame. The civilization vanished around the time of a war against the BiggerBad, and ancient ridiculously high-tech relics show up in dungeons and as monsters for the rest of the series, a span covering literally thousands of years.

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* While the ''Zelda'' series has plenty of examples of SchizoTech, actual LostTechnology has only appeared in the last few games.
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A few centuries prior to ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', there was a thriving civilization made up mostly of sapient robots (and, probably, a related civilization that made the robots), with antigravity technology, mastery of electricity, and other technology to put modern Earth to shame. The civilization vanished around the time of a war against the BiggerBad, and ancient ridiculously high-tech relics show up in dungeons and as monsters for the rest of the series, a span covering literally thousands of years.years.
** Before the events of ''[[TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]'', [[spoiler: the highly advanced Sheikah civilization ruled Hyrule, until the Calamity Ganon appeared.]] Since then, Hyrule has fallen into disarray and taken over by nature. But remnants of [[spoiler: Sheikah]] technology can still be found around Hyrule. The very first item Link receives (after awakening from a high-tech-looking [[spoiler: resurrection chamber]], no less) is the [[spoiler: Sheikah Slate]], a tablet computer with maps, world-manipulating apps (runes, as the game calls them), NFC, and a camera that not only has a zoom function, but also an enemy scanner. Roaming around the world are powerful StarfishRobots known as Guardians, which attack with a laser seemingly unavoidable without cover or speed. And scattered around the world are over a hundred [[spoiler: Sheikah]] shrines, some containing places to download (distill, as the game calls it) apps, and others containing miniature Guardians that are no less fearsome than their overworld counterparts. Also, there are towers throughout the world where Link can download new maps to his tablet. And the tablet's aforementioned NFC capability is used to unlock both shrines and towers.
13th Jun '16 7:18:03 PM Nargrakhan
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* The A-10 Thunderbolt, only 715 of which were made, and in part has NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup ([[http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/a-10-maintenance.htm see here]]; the plans existed, but many of them were thrown away after the subcontractors went out of business), so there was a time when spare parts had to be scavenged from non-functioning planes.[[note]]It's no secret that Generals of the US Air Force have long desired to keep replication of the A-10 lost, with their greater intentions to terminate the warplane's program entirety (for a laundry list of reasons and counterarguments too long to mention). To their dissatisfaction, pushback from politicians and ground soldiers saved by the A-10 has led to Congressional funding for reverse engineering of the A-10 blue prints to construct new parts. Boeing for example, [[http://www.boeing.com/defense/support/a-10-wing-replacement-program/index.page currently constructs new wings]]. Motor and electronic components are also being manufactured by other defense contractors, though the list gets hazier due to military secrets.[[/note]]

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* The A-10 Thunderbolt, only 715 of which were made, and in part has NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup ([[http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/a-10-maintenance.htm see here]]; the plans existed, but many of them were thrown away after the subcontractors went out of business), so there was a time when spare parts had to be scavenged from non-functioning planes.[[note]]It's planes.
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no secret that Generals of the US Air Force have long desired to keep replication of the A-10 lost, with their greater intentions to terminate the warplane's program entirety (for a laundry list of reasons and counterarguments too long to mention). To their dissatisfaction, pushback from politicians and ground soldiers saved by the A-10 has led to Congressional funding for reverse engineering of the A-10 blue prints to construct new parts. Boeing for example, [[http://www.boeing.com/defense/support/a-10-wing-replacement-program/index.page currently constructs new wings]]. Motor and electronic components are also being manufactured by other defense contractors, though the list gets hazier due to military secrets.[[/note]]
7th Jun '16 1:40:07 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Invoked with the Zentraedi of ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' and its adaptation in ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'', who know absolutely nothing about building or repairing their various technologies. It turns out that this is a deliberate ploy on the part of their creators (the Protoculture in ''Macross'' and the Robotech Masters in ''Robotech'') to ensure that the Zentraedi must always depend on them to repair and replace used ammunition and broken parts and thus prevent a rebellion. While it works for the Robotech Masters (as Dolza, commander of the Zentradi, ''did'' want to rebel according to the ExpandedUniverse but knew he had no chance due to that factor), the Protoculture ended up exterminated when they were forced to deactivate the ''other'' safeguard.

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* Invoked with the Zentraedi of ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' and its ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross''[='s=] English adaptation in ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'', who know absolutely nothing about building or repairing their various technologies. It turns out that this is a deliberate ploy on the part of their creators (the Protoculture in ''Macross'' and the Robotech Masters in ''Robotech'') to ensure that the Zentraedi must always depend on them to repair and replace used ammunition and broken parts and thus prevent a rebellion. While it works for the Robotech Masters (as Dolza, commander of the Zentradi, ''did'' want to rebel according to the ExpandedUniverse but knew he had no chance due to that factor), the Protoculture ended up exterminated when they were forced to deactivate the ''other'' safeguard.
6th Jun '16 11:41:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* In [[Creator/IsaacAsimov Asimov's]] ''{{Foundation}}'' novels, most of the galaxy loses its tech when the Empire collapses; the Foundation preserves, improves and reintroduces it. In the later novels, [[spoiler: sentient robots]] are a lost technology universally believed to be mythological, until the heroes meet the [[LastOfHisKind last surviving one]] in the final pages of the last book.

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* In [[Creator/IsaacAsimov Asimov's]] ''{{Foundation}}'' ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' novels, most of the galaxy loses its tech when the Empire collapses; the Foundation preserves, improves and reintroduces it. In the later novels, [[spoiler: sentient robots]] are a lost technology universally believed to be mythological, until the heroes meet the [[LastOfHisKind last surviving one]] in the final pages of the last book.
30th May '16 11:41:58 AM OldBlindTrope
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* Techniques for forging relics, such as the Turin Shroud. It is generally believed to be a Medieval forgery, but thorough testing on its age continues to prove inconclusive due to just how well it was done. Other complicating factors include the fact that it was charred during a fire (which messes with the accuracy of carbon dating) and underwent several repair attempts, possibly causing it to be dated as much older or younger than it actually is.

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* Techniques for forging relics, such as relics? Maybe. Most medieval forgeries, like the Donation of Constantine, contain obvious mistakes. The Shroud of Turin Shroud. It is generally believed to might be a Medieval more convincing fraud; carbon dating turned up a late date, but the shroud had been damaged in a fire and repaired in the Middle Ages, messing with carbon-dating results. If the shroud really is a forgery, but thorough testing on its age continues to prove inconclusive due to just how well it was done. Other complicating factors include the fact it's quite remarkable that it was charred during medieval forgers knew to add first-century Levantine pollen to it, and even more remarkable that they had a fire (which messes with supply of first-century Levantine pollen in the accuracy of carbon dating) and underwent several repair attempts, possibly causing it to be dated as much older or younger than it actually is.first place.



* Fully mobile artillery was known at least in the Roman era. The ''Ballista quadrirotis'' was simply a two-horse cart with a ballista on top, but it was enough to make a field artillery with a significant level of maneuverability.

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* Fully mobile Mobile artillery was known at least in has been repeatedly lost and reinvented. Consider the Roman era. The ''Ballista quadrirotis'' was simply a ''ballista quadrirotis'', two-horse cart with a ballista on top, but it was enough to make a field top.
** Also, tanks. The first ''Panzerkampfwagene'' were used by the Hussites; they were literal armored fighting wagons, drawn by horses and carrying an
artillery piece and ten or so soldiers (armed with flails and muskets) apiece. On the defense, they "circled the wagons", connected them with chains, and easily repelled knightly charges; on the attack... we're not sure, but with a significant level of maneuverability.defense like that, they hardly needed to attack.
30th May '16 11:28:36 AM OldBlindTrope
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* A conspicuous aversion to this: the Medieval Industrial Revolution of the 1200s. This period gave us [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Braine-le-Ch%C3%A2teau_JPG02.jpg water mills]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greetsieler_Zwillingsm%C3%BChlen_2010.jpg windmills]], bellows, clockworks, pulleys, and camshafts: the machinery that the Industrial Revolution proper would automate. Fernand Braudel estimates that these machines gave Europe 2 or 3 million horsepower of automatic work; that isn't very much (men and horses gave Europe about 100 million horsepower), but it gave the continent its decisive edge.

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* A conspicuous aversion to this: the Medieval Industrial Revolution of the 1200s. This period gave us [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Braine-le-Ch%C3%A2teau_JPG02.jpg water mills]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greetsieler_Zwillingsm%C3%BChlen_2010.jpg windmills]], mills, windmills, bellows, clockworks, pulleys, and camshafts: the machinery that the Industrial Revolution proper would automate. Fernand Braudel estimates that these machines gave Europe 2 or 3 million horsepower of automatic work; that isn't very much (men and horses gave Europe about 100 million horsepower), but it gave the continent its decisive edge.
30th May '16 11:27:00 AM OldBlindTrope
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* A conspicuous aversion to this: the Medieval Industrial Revolution of the 1200s. This period gave us [[http://etnomon.cimec.ro/pics/medium/9DB22A6A4DE340818DE111FF5BEEB542.jpg water mills]], windmills, bellows, clockworks, pulleys, and camshafts: the machinery that the Industrial Revolution proper would automate, but powered by wind and water for now. Fernand Braudel estimates that these machines gave Europe 2 or 3 million horsepower of automatic work: a meager sum, but it would give the continent its decisive edge.

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* A conspicuous aversion to this: the Medieval Industrial Revolution of the 1200s. This period gave us [[http://etnomon.cimec.ro/pics/medium/9DB22A6A4DE340818DE111FF5BEEB542.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Braine-le-Ch%C3%A2teau_JPG02.jpg water mills]], windmills, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greetsieler_Zwillingsm%C3%BChlen_2010.jpg windmills]], bellows, clockworks, pulleys, and camshafts: the machinery that the Industrial Revolution proper would automate, but powered by wind and water for now. automate. Fernand Braudel estimates that these machines gave Europe 2 or 3 million horsepower of automatic work: a meager sum, work; that isn't very much (men and horses gave Europe about 100 million horsepower), but it would give gave the continent its decisive edge.
30th May '16 11:23:21 AM OldBlindTrope
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** As part of their construction process, the Romans sacrificed animals and mixed their blood with the concrete, asking their gods to hold up the structure. No Christian would sacrifice an ox to ask Apollo and Dionysius to hold up a building, because it was asking for help from either imaginary beings or evil spirits for aid; no scientist would ask for favors from Apollo and Dionysius either, because it wouldn't work. But it turns out it ''did'' work: the blood aerated the concrete, and aerated concrete wears slower and lasts longer. (Dramatically slower and dramatically longer: many Roman concrete buildings are still perfectly serviceable today, while all concrete buildings built between the end of animal sacrifices for buildings, and the beginning of modern aeration, have already crumbled away.) Aeration was discovered as a formal principle in the 1940s-1950s, and it wasn't long afterwards that people realized that this is what the Roman animal sacrifices did.

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** As part of their construction process, the Romans sacrificed animals and mixed their blood with the concrete, asking their gods to hold up the structure. No Christian would sacrifice an ox to ask Apollo and Dionysius to hold up a building, because it was asking for help from either imaginary beings or evil spirits for aid; spirits; no scientist would ask for favors from Apollo and Dionysius either, because it wouldn't work. But it turns out it ''did'' work: the blood aerated the concrete, and aerated concrete wears slower and lasts longer. (Dramatically slower and dramatically longer: many Roman concrete buildings are still perfectly serviceable today, while all concrete buildings built between the end of animal sacrifices for buildings, and the beginning of modern aeration, have already crumbled away.) Aeration was discovered as a formal principle in the 1940s-1950s, and it wasn't long afterwards that people realized that this is what the Roman animal sacrifices did.
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