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7th Dec '16 1:19:10 PM Pinokio
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* When the Creator/DCComics multiverse was defined as fifty two worlds, the {{Elseworld}} stories that were not explicitly assigned a world were considered just stories, and not alternate realities. With the multiverse restored, these stories are likely still realities in the DC multiverse, as some have been revisited and expanded.



* In Creator/MarvelComics, the ''ComicBook/WhatIf'' stories are a strange case , since the events are meant to depict what would happen in different timelines based on a different set of choices. Any new elements introduced in those stories should still be there in mainstream continuity, or at least in the background. But more often, unless those elements are explicitly mentioned in the main continuity, they are ignored and can be considered non-canon.

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* In Creator/MarvelComics, the ''ComicBook/WhatIf'' stories are a strange case , since the events are meant to depict what would happen in different timelines based on a different set of choices. Any new elements introduced in those stories should still be there in mainstream continuity, or at least in the background. But more often, unless those elements are explicitly mentioned in the main continuity, they the stories are ignored and can be considered non-canon.
alternate realities that do not have to effect the main Marvel continuity.
7th Dec '16 1:04:56 PM Pinokio
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* In Creator/MarvelComics, the ''ComicBook/WhatIf'' stories are a strange case , since the events are meant to depict what would happen in different timelines based on a different set of choices. Any new elements introduced in those stories should still be there in mainstream continuity, or at least in the background. But more often, unless those elements are explicitly mentioned in the main continuity, they are ignored and can be considered non-canon.


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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' is canon for the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', while the old Expanded Universe, ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', is stated to no longer be canon. Still, there are plenty of elements still being used from the old Expanded Universe, including the Nightsisters.
2nd Nov '16 9:33:40 AM BeerBaron
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* Pretty much everything written by Michael Kirkbride for ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' lore outside of Bethesda is this. It's essentially treated as canonical by most of the fanbase, but Bethesda has no official stance either way. Most of what he writes about is the more obscure aspects of the cosmology that doesn't get expanded on in the games, and lore figures the games never touch upon or that Bethesda is simply finished with (like Vivec).

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* Pretty much everything written by Michael Kirkbride for ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' lore outside of Bethesda is this. It's essentially treated as canonical by most of the fanbase, but Bethesda has no official stance either way. Most of what he writes about is the more obscure aspects of the cosmology that doesn't get expanded on in the games, and lore figures the games never touch upon or that Bethesda is simply finished with (like Vivec). As of ''[[Franchise/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', some of the concepts in his works have been officially referenced in game (the idea of "kalpas," Ysgramor and his 500 companions, and some of the motivations of the Thalmor), moving them to CanonImmigrant status.
2nd Nov '16 2:32:08 AM AgProv
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** Hell, earlier Discworld books are this to later ones, because [[WordOfGod Terry Pratchett]] has admitted he wasn't an as good a writer back then as he is nowadays. In his own words (paraphrased):

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** Hell, earlier Discworld books are this to later ones, because [[WordOfGod Terry Pratchett]] has admitted he wasn't an anything like as good a writer back then as he is nowadays. In his own words (paraphrased):
15th Oct '16 12:28:18 PM RacattackForce
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* ''[[WesternAnimation/LEGOStarWarsTheFreemakerAdventures LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures]]'' has been described [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/17/lego-star-wars-the-freemaker-adventures-is-more-intense-than-you-think]] as "canon paraphrase"; think a kid reenacting things through their toys. Being told in LEGO, the specifics of the episodes are not canon, but the status of the basic events of the plot is less clear.

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* ''[[WesternAnimation/LEGOStarWarsTheFreemakerAdventures LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures]]'' has been described [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/17/lego-star-wars-the-freemaker-adventures-is-more-intense-than-you-think]] com/articles/2016/06/17/lego-star-wars-the-freemaker-adventures-is-more-intense-than-you-think as "canon paraphrase"; paraphrase"]]; think a kid reenacting things through their toys. Being told in LEGO, the The specifics of the episodes each episode are not canon, likely non-canonical, but the status of the basic events due have some degree of the plot is less clear.canonization.
15th Oct '16 12:26:34 PM RacattackForce
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** The ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]]'' movies have unclearly fit into the continuity of the television show. While they explicitly take place before certain canonical moments, nothing that happens in the movies has ever been brought up in any show episodes. There have been two cameos by Flash Sentry (otherwise an ''Equestria Girls''-exclusive character) in the show's fourth season, but he served a very minor role in the story both times. The comic book spinoff provides some more supplemental details on the characters, including a mini-issue dedicated to the backstory of Sunset Shimmer, but that just complicates things even further as to whether the movies are in the official canon or not.
** The [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW Comic Book spinoff]] of the show is of ambiguous continuity. Very little of what happens in the comics is referenced in the show, leaving it ambiguous whether the events of the comics are considered to have happened. WordOfGod from Hasbro stated that the comic is considered canonical until the cartoon says otherwise, such as the case with JustForFun/DaringDo. The comic started to hint that the Daring Do series was written by Twilight Velvet, the mother of Twilight Sparkle and Shining Armor, and one story has Daring appear in reality in an incident where fictional characters and actual ponies in Ponyville exchange places by magic. The episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont Daring Don't]]" [[RealAfterAll revealed differently]].
** My Little Pony also has some chapter books and picture books aimed at younger readers than the comic that are ambiguously canonical. The book Under The Sparkling Sea possibly is canonical to the comics due to the appearance of mermares in the comic as well as twilight using the same spell for making ponies aquatic in the comics that she first used in the book.

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** The ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]]'' movies have unclearly fit into the continuity of the television show. While they the first three explicitly take place before after certain canonical moments, moments[[note]]The first film takes place just after the third season (Twilight is still getting used to being a princess). The second is sometime between four and five as Twilight mentions the destruction of the library. The third explicitly overlaps with the events of season five finale, with TheStinger having Twilight give that as the reason why she got Sunset's message so late. The fourth film has no interaction with Equestria, but due to the previous films, can be assumed to continue the trend and take place after season six.[[/note]], nothing that happens in the movies has ever been brought up in any show episodes. the series proper. There have been two cameos by Flash Sentry (otherwise an ''Equestria Girls''-exclusive character) in the show's fourth season, but he served a very minor role in the story both times. times and was the Equestrian-version of the character rather than the Earth one in both cases. The comic book spinoff provides books provide some more supplemental details on the characters, including a mini-issue dedicated to the backstory of Sunset Shimmer, but that just complicates things even further as to whether the movies are in the official canon or not.
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** The [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW Comic Book comic book spinoff]] of the show is also of ambiguous continuity. Very little of what happens in the comics is referenced in the show, leaving it ambiguous whether the events of the comics are considered to have happened. WordOfGod from Hasbro stated states that the comic is considered canonical until the cartoon says otherwise, such as otherwise. A major example of this are the case with JustForFun/DaringDo.''JustForFun/DaringDo'' series of novels. The comic started to hint that the Daring Do series was written by Twilight Velvet, the mother of Twilight Sparkle and Shining Armor, and one story has Daring appear in reality in an incident where fictional characters and actual ponies in Ponyville exchange places by magic. The episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E4DaringDont Daring Don't]]" [[RealAfterAll revealed differently]].
** My Little Pony ''Friendship is Magic'' also has some chapter books and picture books aimed at younger readers than the comic that are ambiguously canonical. The book Under The Sparkling Sea possibly is canonical to canonical, especially since the comics due to the appearance writer of mermares in the comic as well as twilight using the same spell for making ponies aquatic in the comics said books later joined that she first used in the book.show's writing staff during season six.
15th Oct '16 12:04:48 PM RacattackForce
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If the events are not inconsequential, such an episode may contain ResetButton, OrWasItADream or PerspectiveFlip to UnreliableNarrator, forming a weakened link with the {{Canon}}. Compare BroadStrokes. Unrelated to CowboyCop. Compare SchrodingersCanon.

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If the events are not inconsequential, such an episode may contain ResetButton, OrWasItADream or PerspectiveFlip to UnreliableNarrator, forming a weakened link with the {{Canon}}. If the main continuity or WordOfGod eventually acknowledges this material as canon despite previously labeling it as this, then you have a case of {{Ret Canon}}. Compare BroadStrokes. Unrelated to CowboyCop. Compare SchrodingersCanon.
14th Sep '16 4:42:01 PM thunderchild120
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* [[WesternAnimation/LEGOStarWarsTheFreemakerAdventures ''LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures'']] has been described [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/17/lego-star-wars-the-freemaker-adventures-is-more-intense-than-you-think]] as "canon paraphrase"; think a kid reenacting things through their toys. Being told in LEGO, the specifics of the episodes are not canon, but the status of the basic events of the plot is less clear.

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* [[WesternAnimation/LEGOStarWarsTheFreemakerAdventures ''LEGO ''[[WesternAnimation/LEGOStarWarsTheFreemakerAdventures LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures'']] Adventures]]'' has been described [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/17/lego-star-wars-the-freemaker-adventures-is-more-intense-than-you-think]] as "canon paraphrase"; think a kid reenacting things through their toys. Being told in LEGO, the specifics of the episodes are not canon, but the status of the basic events of the plot is less clear.
14th Sep '16 4:40:42 PM thunderchild120
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* [[WesternAnimation/LEGOStarWarsTheFreemakerAdventures LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures]] has been described [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/17/lego-star-wars-the-freemaker-adventures-is-more-intense-than-you-think]] as "canon paraphrase"; think a kid reenacting things through their toys. Being told in LEGO, the specifics of the episodes are not canon, but the status of the basic events of the plot is less clear.

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* [[WesternAnimation/LEGOStarWarsTheFreemakerAdventures LEGO ''LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures]] Adventures'']] has been described [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/17/lego-star-wars-the-freemaker-adventures-is-more-intense-than-you-think]] as "canon paraphrase"; think a kid reenacting things through their toys. Being told in LEGO, the specifics of the episodes are not canon, but the status of the basic events of the plot is less clear.
1st Aug '16 11:01:38 AM thunderchild120
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* [[WesternAnimation/LEGOStarWarsTheFreemakerAdventures LEGO Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures]] has been described [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/17/lego-star-wars-the-freemaker-adventures-is-more-intense-than-you-think]] as "canon paraphrase"; think a kid reenacting things through their toys. Being told in LEGO, the specifics of the episodes are not canon, but the status of the basic events of the plot is less clear.
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