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29th Jun '16 4:02:07 PM Shoebox
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In France, the tendency is to ram the identifier into the town name itself, so one gets places like Sainte-Marie-sur-Mer and Sainte-Marie-de-Ré and Sainte-Marie-des-Champs, etc. However, there are also over a dozen places called just plain Sainte-Marie in France alone; here you would have to specify in which département the one you mean is situated. The American equivalent would be if towns were named "Springfield-in-Massachusetts" and "Springfield-on-Black-River"[[note]]There is a Washington-On-The-Brazos in Texas, for instance.[[/note]]. Some British towns, such as Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Stratford-upon-Avon, Ashton-under-Lyne, and Kingston-by-Ferring, follow this scheme as well, as do German-speaking towns and cities Neustadt an der Aisch, Neustadt am Rübenberge, Neustadt in Holstein, and Neustadt an der Weinstraße (four places called "new town" named respectively after a river, a hill, a province, and a scenic route). The somewhat rarer equivalent in America are names Geneva-on-the-Lake, Ohio (the lake in this case being Erie), which distinguishes it from plain old Geneva, Ohio a few miles south[[note]] and, by extension, the original Geneva (both the canton and the city) in UsefulNotes/{{Switzerland}}, which, of course, is helpfully on a lake (Lac Léman)[[/note]].

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In France, the tendency is to ram the identifier into the town name itself, so one gets places like Sainte-Marie-sur-Mer and Sainte-Marie-de-Ré and Sainte-Marie-des-Champs, etc. However, there are also over a dozen places called just plain Sainte-Marie in France alone; here you would have to specify in which département the one you mean is situated. The American English equivalent would be if towns were named be, say, "Springfield-in-Massachusetts" and "Springfield-on-Black-River"[[note]]There is a Washington-On-The-Brazos in Texas, for instance.[[/note]]."Springfield-on-Black-River". Some British towns, such as Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Stratford-upon-Avon, Ashton-under-Lyne, and Kingston-by-Ferring, follow this scheme as well, as do German-speaking towns and cities Neustadt an der Aisch, Neustadt am Rübenberge, Neustadt in Holstein, and Neustadt an der Weinstraße (four places called "new town" named respectively after a river, a hill, a province, and a scenic route). Canada follows the British model in a few places, notably Niagara-on-the-Lake[[note]]that is, Lake Ontario[[/note]], so-called to distinguish it from Niagara Falls down the road. The somewhat rarer equivalent US is home to Washington-on-the-Brazos in America are names Texas and Geneva-on-the-Lake, Ohio (the lake in this case being Erie), which distinguishes it from plain old Geneva, Ohio a few miles south[[note]] and, by extension, the original Geneva (both the canton and the city) in UsefulNotes/{{Switzerland}}, which, of course, is helpfully on a lake (Lac Léman)[[/note]].
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10th Jun '16 12:54:58 PM animenutcase
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** This [[https://notalwaysright.com/the-oregon-fail-part-2/38927 Canadian customer]] is quick to rant about Americans being ignorant before being informed that her home city of Ontario, Canada is not, in fact, the only Ontario in the world.

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** This [[https://notalwaysright.com/the-oregon-fail-part-2/38927 Canadian customer]] is quick to rant about Americans being ignorant before being informed that her home city province of Ontario, Canada is not, in fact, the only Ontario in the world.
10th Jun '16 12:45:43 PM animenutcase
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** This [[https://notalwaysright.com/the-oregon-fail-part-2/38927 Canadian customer]] is quick to rant about Americans being ignorant before being informed that her home city of Ontario, Canada is not, in fact, the only Ontario in the world.
7th Jun '16 11:57:49 AM tromag
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** Apu tells of his vacation plans to see Paris... in fact, several Parises, including [[Creator/ParisHilton Hilton]], Texas, and France. They also revel in its avoidance when discussing Springfield and which state it is (or isn't) in. By the way, assuming it were a real American town, it could be any of 28 Springfields in 24 states ([[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Wisconsin has five]]).

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** Apu tells of his vacation plans -->'''Apu:''' We're going to see Paris... in fact, several Parises, including [[Creator/ParisHilton Hilton]], in Paris,... Texas, and France. on our way to Paris,... France.
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They also revel in its avoidance when discussing Springfield and which state it is (or isn't) in. By the way, assuming it were a real American town, it could be any of 28 Springfields in 24 states ([[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment Wisconsin has five]]).
5th Jun '16 4:02:56 PM nombretomado
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* A lot of characters in The RockyHorrorPictureShow sing about being from Transylvania, but this turns out to be the name of the [[spoiler:galaxy]] they come from rather than the Romanian region.

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* A lot of characters in The RockyHorrorPictureShow ''Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow'' sing about being from Transylvania, but this turns out to be the name of the [[spoiler:galaxy]] they come from rather than the Romanian region.
2nd Jun '16 2:55:27 AM Doug86
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* ''Series/NightCourt'': Dan's grandfather named the tiny town of Paris, Louisiana where Dan grew up, after the city he was station in during WorldWarOne--Paris ''Illinois'', that is.

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* ''Series/NightCourt'': Dan's grandfather named the tiny town of Paris, Louisiana where Dan grew up, after the city he was station in during WorldWarOne--Paris UsefulNotes/WorldWarI--Paris ''Illinois'', that is.
5th May '16 9:20:02 AM Prfnoff
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* In Cordwainer Smith's "Instrumentality" series, one of the most important cities on Earth is "Meeyameefla," obviously meant to be Miami, Fla. Note that "FL" is the more common abbreviation of Florida since ZIP codes were introduced.

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* In Cordwainer Smith's Creator/CordwainerSmith's "Instrumentality" series, one of the most important cities on Earth is "Meeyameefla," obviously meant to be Miami, Fla. Note that "FL" is the more common abbreviation of Florida since ZIP codes were introduced.
26th Apr '16 6:16:47 AM dmcreif
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*** New York County, New York (coterminous with the New York City borough of Manhattan)

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*** New York County, New York (coterminous with (better known as the New York City borough of Manhattan)



25th Apr '16 10:50:12 PM dmcreif
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**It's not limited to cities. There's also seven counties in the United States to share the same name as the state they are located in:
***Arkansas County, Arkansas
***Hawaii County, Hawaii (Island of Hawaiʻi)
***Idaho County, Idaho
***Iowa County, Idaho
***New York County, New York (coterminous with the New York City borough of Manhattan)
***Oklahoma County, Utah
***Utah County, Utah



** This is not a uniquely American phenomenon:

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** ***In Iowa, there is both a city and a county named Des Moines. But while both are named for the river, Des Moines (the city) is not in Des Moines County. The city is located in Polk County in central Iowa while Des Moines County is on the Mississippi River, bordering Illinois.

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This is not a uniquely American phenomenon:
21st Apr '16 10:16:25 PM dmcreif
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* There are several cities named Denver. When you hear 'Denver', typically, you think [[UsefulNotes/{{Denver}} Denver, Colorado]]. Not to be confused with Denver, Iowa or Denver, Indiana.
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