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14th Sep '17 12:48:08 AM PaulA
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-->-- '''Charley Johnson''', ''LadyInTheDark'' ([[DreamSequence Wedding Dream]])

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-->-- '''Charley Johnson''', ''LadyInTheDark'' ''Theatre/LadyInTheDark'' ([[DreamSequence Wedding Dream]])
8th Sep '17 9:52:17 PM Pamina
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* In an AnachronismStew example, Gaston hires a band to play the bridal march in ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' when he's about to propose (unsuccessfully) to Belle. The film takes place in the mid to late 18th century, the bridal march was composed in 1850.

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* In an AnachronismStew example, Gaston hires a band to play the Lohengrin bridal march in ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' when he's about to propose (unsuccessfully) to Belle. The film takes place in the mid to late 18th century, the bridal march was composed in 1850.



* [[PlayingWithATrope Discussed]] in ''Literature/IWillFearNoEvil'' by Creator/RobertHeinlein, when Johann/Eunice is planning the wedding to Jake. The Eunice personality is adamant that the Mendolssohn ''not'' be used, because, she says, it always sounded to her like the triumphant clucking of a hen that's just laid an egg.

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* [[PlayingWithATrope Discussed]] in ''Literature/IWillFearNoEvil'' by Creator/RobertHeinlein, when Johann/Eunice is planning the wedding to Jake. The Eunice personality is adamant that the Mendolssohn Mendelssohn ''not'' be used, because, she says, it always sounded to her like the triumphant clucking of a hen that's just laid an egg.


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* The classic ''Series/SesameStreet'' episode of Maria and Luis's wedding used Lohengrin at the beginning of the ceremony and Mendelssohn at the end.
8th Sep '17 9:47:57 PM Pamina
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* The wedding in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' episode "Let Them Eat Cake" uses Mendelssohn for [[RunawayBride what should have been]] the bride's walk down the aisle. The use of Mendelsshon instead of Lohengrin is a double case of {{Fridge Brilliance}}: (a) the couple's names are [[Film/TheGraduate Ben and Elaine]], and (b) Ben is Jewish, being [[AlterKocker Boris and Minka's]] son, so it makes sense that they wouldn't use the Wagner piece.
29th Jul '17 11:36:56 PM Piterpicher
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* In "RabbitOfSeville", after a mutual escalation where each side points bigger and bigger guns at the other, Bugs instead offers Elmer flowers and chocolates, which causes him to reappear wearing a wedding dress. After Bugs rushes through a ceremony with himself as Justice of the Peace, Bugs carries his new "bride" to the threshold to the tune of the Mendelssohn Recessional. (Whereupon he drops Elmer off a very high ledge into a prop wedding cake reading "Theatre/TheMarriageOfFigaro".)

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* In "RabbitOfSeville", "WesternAnimation/RabbitOfSeville", after a mutual escalation where each side points bigger and bigger guns at the other, Bugs instead offers Elmer flowers and chocolates, which causes him to reappear wearing a wedding dress. After Bugs rushes through a ceremony with himself as Justice of the Peace, Bugs carries his new "bride" to the threshold to the tune of the Mendelssohn Recessional. (Whereupon he drops Elmer off a very high ledge into a prop wedding cake reading "Theatre/TheMarriageOfFigaro".)
26th Jul '17 4:23:55 AM benda
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Some churches discourage the use of this and other [[http://www.perkinschapelweddingmusic.com/faq.htm secular music]] at weddings held in their facilities. Some churches and musicians also discourage their use because of the context: Elsa's wedding in ''Lohengrin'' is anything but happy, the marriage wasn't consummated, and by the end her beloved departs and her brother has been turned into a swan; and ''A Midsummer Night's Dream'' is not the most... shall we say "monogamous" of Shakespeare's plays. And some organists are just bloody sick of them. The former is also generally not used at Jewish weddings, due to Wagner's anti-Semitism and his association with Nazism (Mendelssohn was a Lutheran with Jewish ancestry, by the way).

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Some churches discourage the use of this and other [[http://www.perkinschapelweddingmusic.com/faq.htm secular music]] at weddings held in their facilities. Some churches and musicians also discourage their use because of the context: Elsa's wedding in ''Lohengrin'' is anything but happy, the marriage wasn't consummated, and by the end her beloved departs and her brother has been turned into a swan; and ''A Midsummer Night's Dream'' is not the most... shall we say "monogamous" of Shakespeare's plays. And some organists are just bloody sick of them. The former is also generally not used at Jewish weddings, due to Wagner's anti-Semitism and his association with Nazism (Mendelssohn was a Lutheran with Jewish ancestry, by the way).
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4th Jun '17 1:03:57 PM Madrugada
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* [[PlayingWithATrope Discussed]] in ''Literature/IWillFearNoEvil'' by Creator/RobertHeinlein, when Johann/Eunice is planning the wedding to Jake. The Eunice personality is adamant that the Mendolssohn ''not'' be used, because, she says, it always sounded to her like the triumphant clucking of a hen that's just laid an egg.
18th Apr '17 8:54:40 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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If it's not one of these pieces of ClassicalMusic being played at the wedding, odds are pretty good it's Music/PachelbelsCanon.

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If it's not one of these pieces of ClassicalMusic being played at the wedding, odds are pretty good it's Music/PachelbelsCanon.
either ''Music/PachelbelsCanon'' or the ''Prince of Denmark's March'' (sometimes incorrectly called the ''Trumpet Voluntary''[[note]]which is a ''type'' of musical composition, like the symphony, concerto, or sonata[[/note]], and notable for being used at [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfWindsor Princess Diana's]] wedding) by Jeremiah Clarke.
1st Apr '17 9:31:43 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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-->''Here comes the prize''
-->''UsefulNotes/PulitzerPrize''
-->''[[WellDoneSonGuy I'll finally be successful in my mother's eyes]]''

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-->''Here --->''Here comes the prize''
-->''UsefulNotes/PulitzerPrize''
-->''[[WellDoneSonGuy
--->''UsefulNotes/PulitzerPrize''
--->''[[WellDoneSonGuy
I'll finally be successful in my mother's eyes]]''
9th Mar '17 1:03:42 PM Mdumas43073
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* Both Mendelssohn and Lohengrin are used for the polyandrous wedding at the end of ''Horse Feathers'' where all the Creator/MarxBrothers ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg except Zeppo]]) marry Thelma Todd.

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* Both Mendelssohn and Lohengrin are used for the polyandrous wedding at the end of ''Horse Feathers'' ''Film/HorseFeathers'' where all the Creator/MarxBrothers ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg except Zeppo]]) marry Thelma Todd.
9th Mar '17 12:59:33 PM Mdumas43073
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These two pieces, commonly referred to as "Lohengrin" and "Mendelssohn," are often played at RealLife and fictional weddings, even if those [[AnachronismStew weddings are in films set before the pieces were actually composed.]] The combination may have been popularized by its use at the wedding of Princess Victoria and Crown Prince Friedrich of Prussia (later Kaiser Friedrich III) in 1858. Some churches discourage the use of this and other [[http://www.perkinschapelweddingmusic.com/faq.htm secular music]] at weddings held in their facilities. Some churches and musicians also discourage their use because of the context: Elsa's wedding in ''Lohengrin'' is anything but happy, the marriage wasn't consummated, and by the end her beloved departs and her brother has been turned into a swan; and ''A Midsummer Night's Dream'' is not the most... shall we say "monogamous" of Shakespeare's plays. And some organists are just bloody sick of them. The former is also generally not used at Jewish weddings, due to Wagner's anti-Semitism and his association with Nazism (Mendelssohn was a Lutheran with Jewish ancestry, by the way).

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These two pieces, commonly referred to as "Lohengrin" and "Mendelssohn," are often played at RealLife and fictional weddings, even if those [[AnachronismStew weddings are in films set before the pieces were actually composed.]] The combination may have been popularized by its use at the wedding of Princess Victoria and Crown Prince Friedrich of Prussia (later Kaiser Friedrich III) in 1858.

Some churches discourage the use of this and other [[http://www.perkinschapelweddingmusic.com/faq.htm secular music]] at weddings held in their facilities. Some churches and musicians also discourage their use because of the context: Elsa's wedding in ''Lohengrin'' is anything but happy, the marriage wasn't consummated, and by the end her beloved departs and her brother has been turned into a swan; and ''A Midsummer Night's Dream'' is not the most... shall we say "monogamous" of Shakespeare's plays. And some organists are just bloody sick of them. The former is also generally not used at Jewish weddings, due to Wagner's anti-Semitism and his association with Nazism (Mendelssohn was a Lutheran with Jewish ancestry, by the way).
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