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22nd Mar '17 1:10:37 PM ZombieAladdin
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** Pica's Stone-Stone fruit initially seemed like an utter GameBreaker. It allows him to assimilate with and control stone, and everything on Dressrosa was made of stone. He was finally beaten when Zoro realized if you cut his stone form in half, he had to escape into one part of it, and so Zoro chopped a giant stone form to bits while keeping them in the air, until there wasn't any stone large enough for Pica to hide in, nor could he escape into the ground. It was over for Pica after that. This logical weaknesses was actually attached all the way back to Buggy the Clown. While his Chop-Chop powers enable him to split his body into numerous floating pieces, ''some'' part of his body needs to be the "base" part and ''stay on the ground''. That's why Luffy was able to find and successfully attack his ''feet''.

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** Pica's Stone-Stone fruit initially seemed like an utter GameBreaker. It allows him to assimilate with and control stone, and everything on Dressrosa was made of stone. He was finally beaten when Zoro realized if you cut his stone form in half, he had to escape into one part of it, and so Zoro chopped a giant stone form to bits while keeping them in the air, until there wasn't any stone large enough for Pica to hide in, nor could he escape into the ground. It was over for Pica after that. (Such an opponent needs to be strong enough to cut stone in the first place, of course.) This logical weaknesses was actually attached all the way back to Buggy the Clown. While his Chop-Chop powers enable him to split his body into numerous floating pieces, ''some'' part of his body needs to be the "base" part and ''stay on the ground''. That's why Luffy was able to find and successfully attack his ''feet''.



** Baraggan Luisenbarn is a WalkingWasteland, projecting an aura that rapidly ages everything around him. Since it's always turned on, Baraggan has to constantly protect himself from his own aura. This proves fatal for Baraggan when a rapidly-decomposing object is placed where he cannot protect himself--[[spoiler:namely, inside of his body.]]



** Yoshikage Kira's "Bites the Dust" power traps its victim in a GroundhogDayLoop, and if anyone finds out about Kira's identity through the victim, they explode. The victim then restarts the day, though that person will continue to explode in every iteration at the same time. How does one get out of the loop? Because Bites the Dust is a Stand power, Kira needs to physically attach his Stand, Killer Queen, to the victim. If Kira himself ever gets into a situation where he needs his other powers, Kira must recall the Stand from the victim, ending the loop immediately.



* Many Quirks in ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' have weaknesses in the form of low-level {{Heroic RROD}}s, running the risk of injury if over- or improperly used. These risks are often a direct result of the particular power. GravityMaster Uraraka experiences symptoms of vertigo. Kaminari short circuits his own brain and temporarily becomes a dullard if he unleashes his full ShockAndAwe. Mineta, who can pull sticky balls from his body, will begin bleeding if he does too many at once.

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* Many Quirks in ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' have weaknesses in the form of low-level {{Heroic RROD}}s, running the risk of injury if over- or improperly used. These risks are often a direct result of the particular power. GravityMaster Uraraka experiences symptoms of vertigo. Kaminari short circuits his own brain and temporarily becomes a dullard if he unleashes his full ShockAndAwe. Mineta, who can pull sticky balls from his body, will begin bleeding if he does too many at once. Mirio has it the worst: He can make himself intangible, but he has none of the RequiredSecondaryPowers. While intangible, he cannot see, hear, or even breathe, as every particle will travel right through him. He is also still affected by gravity when intangible, so every act of passing through things becomes a complicated process so he doesn't fall through the ground.
19th Mar '17 11:02:48 AM NNinja
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*** Their tools have a logical weakness as well: They constantly drain large amounts of chakra from anyone holding them. Only somebody with chakra comparable to a jinchuuriki can safely handle them for any length of time. Tenten tried using one of them and ended up near death after the battle.
14th Mar '17 8:07:42 PM KeithM
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*** Grodd is also an incredibly dangerous threat to much smaller humans who don't have his mental powers, let alone size and strength. However, when faced by someone like Solovar, a gorilla who is just as large, just as strong, cannot be mentally controlled, but who is trained in hand-to-hand combat against his peers, Grodd is woefully outclassed [[spoiler: and [[CurbStompBattle suffers a curb-stomping]] at Solovar's hands]].
14th Mar '17 7:57:53 PM KeithM
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* HonorHarrington comes from a line of people genetically engineered to be stronger and faster than baseline humans...but it also increases her metabolism. In normal circumstances this isn't a problem but when she's trapped in a situation where her team is on emergency rations, what would be sufficient for a normal person is causing her barely preventing her from starving to death. A novel set earlier in the universe's timeline demonstrates this a problem in general for people engineered to be stronger to live on heavy-gravity worlds, as one military recruit, limited to eat the same amount as the other recruits due to a bureaucratic policy, is essentially suffering from malnutrition.

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* HonorHarrington comes from a line of people genetically engineered to be stronger and faster than baseline humans...but it also increases her metabolism. In normal circumstances this isn't a problem but when she's trapped in a situation where her team is on emergency rations, what would be sufficient for a normal person is causing her barely preventing her from starving to death. A novel set earlier in the universe's timeline demonstrates this a problem in general for people engineered to be stronger to live on heavy-gravity worlds, as one military recruit, limited to eat the same amount as the other recruits due to a bureaucratic policy, is essentially suffering from malnutrition.
14th Mar '17 7:54:35 PM KeithM
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* HonorHarrington comes from a line of people genetically engineered to be stronger and faster than baseline humans...but it also increases her metabolism. In normal circumstances this isn't a problem but when she's trapped in a situation where her team is on emergency rations, what would be sufficient for a normal person is causing her barely preventing her from starving to death. A novel set earlier in the universe's timeline demonstrates this a problem in general for people engineered to be stronger to live on heavy-gravity worlds, as one military recruit, limited to eat the same amount as the other recruits due to a bureaucratic policy, is essentially suffering from malnutrition.
12th Mar '17 10:45:52 PM TheSinful
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** Any pokemon using Dig takes double damage from Earthquake and Magnitude. Makes sense given that being underground is generally one of the last places you want to be during an earthquake.
10th Mar '17 12:54:15 PM TheWanderer
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* At one point in ''WebComic/NoNeedForBushido'', two members of the QuirkyMiniBossSquad nearly get into a fight, and Uso, the MasterOfIllusion, challenges BlindWeaponmaster Ryoku. After taking a few seconds to think it over, Uso reconsiders because he specializes in creating and controlling ''visual'' illusions, while Ryoku "sees" through sound. Trying to fight Ryoku would be signing his own death warrant.
3rd Mar '17 1:59:14 PM EDP
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* ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' plays with this trope:
** Kenshiro's [[TouchOfDeath Hokuto Shinken]] relies on hitting an enemy's {{Pressure Point}}s, so Shin sicked on him [[KungFuProofMook Mr. Heart]], who is [[{{Kevlard}} so fat Kenshiro can't hit his pressure points]]. This gets {{Subverted}} because, much to Shin's shock, ''[[CrazyPrepared Hokuto Shinken has a move to push away an enemy's fat]]'' (and another to hit an opponent's pressure points with an energy attack, but that one showed up in a different fight).
*** This weakness resurfaces, to much more effect, when Kenshiro faces Souther, who, having his HeartInTheWrongPlace, has all the pressure points switched around. This invulnerability also vanishes if the Hokuto practitioner can figure its source-and while Kenshiro only manages during their rematch, Toki, a trained ''medic'', knew it from the start
** Hokuto Shinken and Nanto Seiken practitioners are trained as assassins and formidable {{Combat Pragmatist}}s who can sneak up on anyone except another practitioner. So they have no idea on how to deal with the rare opponent who can get the drop on them, like the Colonel (an experienced soldier and Nanto practitioner, who fought Kenshiro on a terrain that gave him a huge advantage and managed to last much longer than he had any right to) or Yuda (who is just that dirty, and a Nanto practitioner to boot. Rei beat him only because Yuda stopped to gloat before the finishing attack and froze up at the beauty of his desperate countertattack).
** Rei's Nanto Shuicho Ken technique relies on fast and graceful movements, and thus on his legs. Yuda gained the upper hand in their fight by ''flooding the whole area'', thus making him sluggish (and, to play it safe, kept the distance while spamming an attack that worked at distance, something Rei had no equivalent of).
** {{Subverted}} with Shuu: he's blind, so some of Souther's soldiers guessed they would disorient him by surrounding him and make lots of noise... Except he apparently expected such a situation since he became blind and had years to come up with a counter.
*** During his temporary blindness, Kenshiro found himself in a similar situation. He swiftly dealt with his attackers thanks to his new ability to summon the skills of his late allies, including Shuu.
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