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27th Sep '17 10:53:05 PM TSBasilisk
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* In ''[[WorldOfWarcraft World of Warcraft]]'' WOTLK there is an encounter during the 5-man instance Trial of the Champion where you are up against Argent Confessor Paletress, who will summon one of various ghost-like “memories” of previous foes the player characters have (or should have) defeated in the past, who must now be faced once again. These memories include famous antagonists such as, Edwin VanCleef, Lady Vashj, Onyxia, Hogger, Archimonde, and Illidan Stormrage, among several others who have a chance to spawn. It also may be worth noting that the flavor text of the spell Confess, which Paletress uses to summon them, states that it forces the target to confess their darkest memories, implying that the spell draws from the memories of the PC to summon a Living Memory of one of their toughest foes, so it probably qualifies for this trope. Suffice to say, as a 5-man instance these memories are not nearly as menacing as their living counterparts once were at the time of their original defeat.

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* In ''[[WorldOfWarcraft World of Warcraft]]'' WOTLK there is an encounter during the 5-man instance Trial Warcraft]] Wrath of the Champion where you are up against Lich King'' Argent Confessor Paletress, who will summon one Paletress summons a "memory" of various ghost-like “memories” of previous foes an enemy the player characters have (or should have) defeated in the past, who must now be faced once again. These memories include famous antagonists such as, players previously defeated.[[labelnote:Examples]] This includes Edwin VanCleef, Lady Vashj, Onyxia, Hogger, [[MemeticBadass Hogger]], Archimonde, and Illidan Stormrage, among several others who have a chance to spawn. It also may be worth noting that the flavor text of the Stormrage.[[/labelnote]] The spell Confess, which Paletress uses to summon them, states that it forces description for her ability implies these are the target to confess their player's darkest memories, implying that though they are nowhere near as strong as when previously faced.
** In ''Legion''
the spell draws from ruined eredar capital of Mac'aree was abandoned after the memories of the PC to summon a Living Memory of one majority of their toughest foes, so it probably qualifies for race joined the Legion. Memories of the eredar who lived during that fateful time manifest as spirits that repeat the same events over and over again. Interestingly this trope. Suffice to say, as a 5-man instance these memories includes not only those who died but many characters who are not nearly as menacing as their living counterparts once were at the time of their original defeat. still alive.
26th Aug '17 3:17:08 PM ScroogeMacDuck
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** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'', the person behind the mysterious attacks at Hogwarts turns out to be a living memory of the BigBad from when ''he'' was at school. At first, he could only communicate via the diary he was preserved in, but once he got [[spoiler: Ginny]] to trust him with enough secrets, [[EmotionEater he grew steadily more powerful]]. Four books later, it turns out that the diary was one of several [[SoulJar soul-jars]] Voldemort created, although this was by far the most dangerous.
** The many ghosts that dwell in Hogwarts appear to be this as well: they're described as "imprints" of the once-living person who has since passed on to... whatever comes next.
** It's never explored in any detail, but the animated portraits of deceased persons seem to work this way. They have all of the knowledge and at least some of the personality of the deceased, but it's unclear whether they have free will or the ability to truly act of their own accord.

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** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'', the person behind the mysterious attacks at Hogwarts turns out to be a living memory of the BigBad from when ''he'' was at school. At first, he could only communicate via the diary he was preserved in, but once he got [[spoiler: Ginny]] to trust him with enough secrets, [[EmotionEater he grew steadily more powerful]]. The entity referred to itself as an animated memory. Four books later, it turns turned out that the diary was one of several [[SoulJar soul-jars]] Voldemort created, although this was by far the most dangerous.
dangerous; however, the small but vocal part of the fandom that declared FanonDiscontinuity on the later books and ignores the SoulJar plot-point maintain the boy in the diary really was a living memory.
** The many ghosts that dwell in Hogwarts appear to may be this as well: they're described some characters they are souls that refused to pass on, but others (such as the notoriously cynical Professor Snape) describe them as magical "imprints" of the once-living person who has since passed on to... whatever comes next.
person.
** It's never explored in any much detail, but the animated portraits of deceased persons seem to work this way. They have all of the knowledge and at least some of the personality of the deceased, deceased (or at least an approximation thereof), and at least ''some'' of their memories, but it's unclear whether they have free will or the ability to truly act of their own accord.accord. (According to AllThereInTheManual, they are only as accurate to their originals as the magician-artist's understanding of the model was.)
16th Mar '17 12:33:38 PM Slothgirl
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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock may have already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart, which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop (or TrickedOutTime, depending on whether or not this is the first time the loop has run) - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.

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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock may have already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart, which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop (or TrickedOutTime, depending on whether or not this is the first time the loop has run) - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, [[CrossThrough which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century century]] [[TimeTravelEscape before he meets Picard and dies]] and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.
16th Mar '17 12:25:27 PM Slothgirl
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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock had YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart , which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop (or TrickedOutTime, depending on whether or not this is the first time the loop has run) - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.

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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock had YouAlreadyChangedThePast may have already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart , counterpart, which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop (or TrickedOutTime, depending on whether or not this is the first time the loop has run) - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.
16th Mar '17 12:06:30 PM Slothgirl
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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock had YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart , which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.

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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock had YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart , which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop (or TrickedOutTime, depending on whether or not this is the first time the loop has run) - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.
16th Mar '17 12:04:41 PM Slothgirl
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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] , which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.

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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] counterpart , which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.
16th Mar '17 12:01:48 PM Slothgirl
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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] , which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentally]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches him die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.

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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met might have been just another echo, meaning that Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] , which they can now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentally]], Essentially]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches him Kirk Prime die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.
16th Mar '17 12:00:32 PM Slothgirl
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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met was just an echo, and Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] and so they can go through with it without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentally]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches him die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.

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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met was might have been just an another echo, and meaning that Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] and so , which they can go through with it now implement without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentally]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches him die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.
16th Mar '17 11:57:27 AM Slothgirl
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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]], [[ExploitedTrope exploited]] and combined with YouAlreadyChangedThePast in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met was just an echo, and Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] and so they can go through with it without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentally]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches him die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.

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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]], [[ExploitedTrope exploited]] and combined with YouAlreadyChangedThePast Invoked]] in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met was just an echo, and Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] and so they can go through with it without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentally]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches him die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.
16th Mar '17 11:56:54 AM Slothgirl
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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]], [[ExploitedTrope exploited]] and combined with YouAlreadyChangedThePast in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' [[spoiler: Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met was just an echo, and Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] and so they can go through with it without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentally, the LivingMemory would form the basis for a]] StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches him die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and [[FridgeHorror(hopefully)]] leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.]]]]

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* [[InvokedTrope Invoked]], [[ExploitedTrope exploited]] and combined with YouAlreadyChangedThePast in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/5441465/chapters/12663329 I'll Be Home for Christmas.]]'' [[spoiler: Jim learns about Guinan's echo (see ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'' below) and recalls hearing from Spock Prime that he [[NeverFoundTheBody never found Kirk Prime's body]], and theorises that echoes can leave the Nexus for a short time before disappearing based on his own research. He combines the three and realises that the Kirk Picard met was just an echo, and Jim and Spock had [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast already succeeded with Jim's plan to retrieve his counterpart]] and so they can go through with it without worrying about changing the original timeline. [[FridgeBrilliance Essentally, Essentally]], the LivingMemory would form the basis for a]] a StableTimeLoop - Picard enters the Nexus in the twenty-fourth century, learns about Kirk Prime's fate, joins forces with him, defeats Soran, watches him die, and informs Spock Prime of his passing, which provides a vector for the information to reach Jim, who pulls Kirk Prime out of the Nexus in the alternate twenty-third century and [[FridgeHorror(hopefully)]] leaves behind an echo to assist Picard, thus restarting the cycle.]]]]
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