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27th Jul '16 2:01:27 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* Surprisingly averted in the ''{{Series/Lensman}}'' series, in which major characters often do get promotions and occasionally this even changes what they can do - for example, Rod "the Rock" Kinnison is promoted to Port Admiral which doesn't allow him to be in the thick of battle anymore (he's '''not''' happy once he realizes this). In the later books, though, the major characters get promoted to Unattached Lensman, whose official job description pretty much reads "Do whatever you think needs to be done and take anything you need in order to do it," so they don't necessarily have to leave the other characters behind.

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* Surprisingly averted in the ''{{Series/Lensman}}'' ''Literature/{{Lensman}}'' series, in which major characters often do get promotions and occasionally this even changes what they can do - for example, Rod "the Rock" Kinnison is promoted to Port Admiral which doesn't allow him to be in the thick of battle anymore (he's '''not''' happy once he realizes this). In the later books, though, the major characters get promoted to Unattached Lensman, whose official job description pretty much reads "Do whatever you think needs to be done and take anything you need in order to do it," so they don't necessarily have to leave the other characters behind.
16th Jul '16 2:39:19 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** The Unseen University plays the trope very straight, as there are exactly eight levels of wizardry, and the number of people who can hold a rank has been fixed according to tradition for centuries. Because of this, no matter how good a wizard was, the only way he could hope to get a promotion is if a higher level wizard is promoted or dies, creating a vacancy at the next level to be filled. This ultimately created a tradition where many wizards who didn't feel like waiting for a vacancy to appear made a point of creating them via KlingonPromotion until Ridcully became Archchancellor and ended it by being unkillable.

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** The Unseen University plays the trope very straight, as there are exactly eight levels of wizardry, and the number of people who can hold a rank has been fixed according to tradition for centuries. Because of this, no matter how good a wizard was, the only way he could hope to get a promotion is if a higher level wizard is promoted or dies, creating a vacancy at the next level to be filled. This ultimately created a tradition where many wizards who didn't feel like waiting for a vacancy to appear made a point of creating them via KlingonPromotion until Ridcully became Archchancellor and ended it by being unkillable. It also helped that by that point in the series almost everybody who actually wanted the higher ranks had killed each other off; the faculty had to recruit Ridcully from private life just to fill the seat.
30th Jun '16 7:11:46 AM kyojikasshu
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*** In "Best of Both Worlds" Riker was promoted to Captain. Count the pips on his collar, he's got four. Then in "Family", he's back to Commander again. [[FridgeLogic The only explanation]] is that he's somehow engineered a demotion for himself. Maybe he got Troi to say he was psychologically incapable of command or something. It'd explain why it took so long for him to get back to captain again. Why the writers felt the need to demote him is unclear; ''[[Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome Star Trek IV]]'' shows that there's no rule against the ship's commanding officer and first officer both holding the rank of Captain, and Picard would still have decades of seniority over Riker.
*** Most likely that since Star Trek seems to derive much of its structure from naval traditions, Riker's battlefield commission amounted to little more than a brevet rank. It may have been meant to be made official after the crisis had subsided, but due to Picard's return, Riker kept his old rank.

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*** In "Best of Both Worlds" Riker was promoted to Captain. Count the pips on his collar, he's got four. Then in "Family", he's back to Commander again. [[FridgeLogic The only explanation]] is that he's somehow engineered a demotion for himself. Maybe he got Troi to say he was psychologically incapable of command or something. It'd explain why it took so long for him to get back to captain again. Why the writers felt the need to demote him is unclear; ''[[Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome Star Trek IV]]'' shows that there's no rule against the ship's commanding officer and first officer both holding the rank of Captain, Captain (and the ''Enterprise''-A actually had ''three'' captains, due to Scotty's promotion to "Captain of Engineering" in ''[[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Star Trek III]][[note]]The ending of ''Star Trek IV'' showed Scotty wearing a commander's rank badge again, anticipating his promotion being nullified, but as Kirk was the only one officially punished, the next three films and "Relics" confirmed he kept the promotion[[/note]]), and Picard would still have decades of seniority over Riker.
*** Most likely that since Star Trek seems to derive much of its structure from naval traditions, Riker's battlefield commission amounted to little more than a brevet rank. It may have been meant to be made official after the crisis had subsided, but due to Picard's return, Riker kept his old rank. In addition, Spock (who actually captained the ''Enterprise'' after Kirk returned to the admiralty, albeit as a training ship) had served in Starfleet about twice as long as Riker had by the time of "The Best of Both Worlds", and Scotty had been in Starfleet even longer when he was promoted to captain.
19th Jun '16 2:29:48 PM nombretomado
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** In TheThrawnTrilogy, Pellaeon was a sixty-year-old captain of an Imperial Star Destroyer. Being unwilling to rule, he just followed the Empire's current leaders and tried to scrape it back together again whenever those leaders inevitably fell, never getting promoted. But as time went on and he outlived those superiors, one of them [[YouAreInCommandNow put him in charge]] before fleeing into obscurity, and so by the HandOfThrawn duology he was Admiral Pellaeon, the Supreme Commander of the [[VestigialEmpire Imperial Remnant]]. And by the time of the Literature/NewJediOrder series, the Empire has expanded sufficiently that he was promoted again, to the same rank of ''Grand Admiral'' that his late mentor Thrawn had held.

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** In TheThrawnTrilogy, Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy, Pellaeon was a sixty-year-old captain of an Imperial Star Destroyer. Being unwilling to rule, he just followed the Empire's current leaders and tried to scrape it back together again whenever those leaders inevitably fell, never getting promoted. But as time went on and he outlived those superiors, one of them [[YouAreInCommandNow put him in charge]] before fleeing into obscurity, and so by the HandOfThrawn duology he was Admiral Pellaeon, the Supreme Commander of the [[VestigialEmpire Imperial Remnant]]. And by the time of the Literature/NewJediOrder series, the Empire has expanded sufficiently that he was promoted again, to the same rank of ''Grand Admiral'' that his late mentor Thrawn had held.
15th Jun '16 2:54:02 AM WildGoose
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* ''Series/{{Flashpoint}}'': Sergeant Parker warns warns a new member about this when she first joins Team One. Team Leader Ed Lane has been a Constable for almost a ''decade'' when the series starts, [[spoiler: and he's only a Sergeant in the finale because Greg was medically retired from SRU, which freed a slot for him to move into]].
7th Jun '16 6:24:37 PM costanton11
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*** Most likely that since Star Trek seems to derive much of its structure from naval traditions, Riker's battlefield commission amounted to little more than a brevet rank.

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*** Most likely that since Star Trek seems to derive much of its structure from naval traditions, Riker's battlefield commission amounted to little more than a brevet rank. It may have been meant to be made official after the crisis had subsided, but due to Picard's return, Riker kept his old rank.
7th Jun '16 6:22:28 PM costanton11
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** Sulu starts off a Lieutenant, but is Lieutenant Commander in the first movie, Commander by the next and Captain (with his own ship, unlike Bones and Scotty) for ''[[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry The Undiscovered Country]]''.

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** Sulu starts off a Lieutenant, but is Lieutenant Commander in the first movie, Commander by the next and Captain (with his own ship, unlike Bones Spock and Scotty) for ''[[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry The Undiscovered Country]]''.
7th Jun '16 6:21:37 PM costanton11
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** Kirk is promoted from Captain to Rear Admiral for [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture the first movie]], and though he's demoted, he is promoted ''again'' in time for ''Film/StarTrekGenerations''.

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** Kirk is promoted from Captain to Rear Admiral for [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture the first movie]], and though movie]] although he's demoted, he is promoted ''again'' demoted in time for ''Film/StarTrekGenerations''.the fourth movie.



** Sulu starts off a Lieutenant, but is Captain (with his own ship, unlike Bones and Scotty) for ''[[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry The Undiscovered Country]]''.
** Chekov has the largest (and fastest) chain of promotions, starting off in the second season as an Ensign and making it to full Commander (and first officer of the ''USS Reliant'') in time for ''[[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan The Wrath of Khan]]''.
** Uhura goes from Lieutenant to Commander in the same timeframe.

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** Sulu starts off a Lieutenant, but is Lieutenant Commander in the first movie, Commander by the next and Captain (with his own ship, unlike Bones and Scotty) for ''[[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry The Undiscovered Country]]''.
** Chekov has the largest (and fastest) chain of promotions, starting off in the second season as an Ensign Ensign, being a Lieutenant in ''[[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture The Motion Picture]]'' and making it to full Commander (and first officer of the ''USS Reliant'') in time for ''[[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan The Wrath of Khan]]''.
** Uhura goes from Lieutenant to Lieutenant Commander to Commander in the same timeframe.
18th May '16 11:46:35 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* In ''{{CSI NY}}'', the only career change in the entire show was Sheldon Hawkes' transfer from coroner to field agent which is frankly ridiculous. The two jobs require very different skill sets and training. It's akin to saying "He's an excellent neurosurgeon, so let's make him the CEO of the hospital." The producers of the show admitted that they only made Hawkes a field agent due to his [[EnsembleDarkhorse unexpected popularity]].

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* In ''{{CSI NY}}'', ''Series/{{CSINY}}'', the only career change in the entire show was Sheldon Hawkes' transfer from coroner to field agent which is frankly ridiculous. The two jobs require very different skill sets and training. It's akin to saying "He's an excellent neurosurgeon, so let's make him the CEO of the hospital." The producers of the show admitted that they only made Hawkes a field agent due to his [[EnsembleDarkhorse unexpected popularity]].
29th Feb '16 6:15:18 AM Bissek
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* In the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' novels, rank among the Imperial Auditors is entirely due to seniority, so one only increases in rank when a more senior Auditor dies or retires. Of course, even the most junior Auditor outranks everyone else in the Empire other than the Emperor, and Auditors generally work independently, so relative rank among them doesn't mean much.
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