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28th Apr '17 10:10:41 AM s_outcast
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**More recently, generation ships are now being found within a 100ly radius of Sol in the official sequel ''VideoGame/{{Elite: Dangerous}}''
31st Mar '17 3:24:21 PM nombretomado
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* OrionsArm does not, and will never have, an FTL drive and they still have a version of this. The first {{Generation Ship}}s were often outpaced by smaller and faster [[HumanPopsicle sleeper ships]], and when [[TimeDilation relativistic]] drives were developed those beat the sleeper ships. And finally [[PortalNetwork linelayers]] could not travel at relativistic speeds but could lay down wormholes that would bring in a flood of colonists within a few years of deployment and decrease travel times thereafter from years to months.

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* OrionsArm ''WebOriginal/OrionsArm'' does not, and will never have, an FTL drive and they still have a version of this. The first {{Generation Ship}}s were often outpaced by smaller and faster [[HumanPopsicle sleeper ships]], and when [[TimeDilation relativistic]] drives were developed those beat the sleeper ships. And finally [[PortalNetwork linelayers]] could not travel at relativistic speeds but could lay down wormholes that would bring in a flood of colonists within a few years of deployment and decrease travel times thereafter from years to months.
17th Mar '17 9:30:50 AM zarpaulus
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* Narrowly averted by the ''LDS Nauvoo'' in ''Literature/TheExpanse'', if only because the Belters building it hijacked it and tried to ram it into Eros in an attempt to stop the Protomolecule, which ended up creating [[PortalNetwork the Ring]].
16th Mar '17 8:39:06 PM zarpaulus
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* In ''TabletopGame/FadingSuns'' Sol's [[PortalNetwork Jumpgate]] was discovered by a SleeperShip on its' way out of the system. In a variant, the ships that preceded it were ''never heard from again''.
3rd Feb '17 4:19:18 PM Xtifr
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* Charles Sheffield's ''Summertide'' starts with ships carrying {{Human Popsicle}}s. They are programmed to wake the people if they reach the destination, if a problem arises the computer cannot solve -- or if they receive a transmission that FTL has been invented.

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* Charles Sheffield's Creator/CharlesSheffield's ''Summertide'' starts with ships carrying {{Human Popsicle}}s. They are programmed to wake the people if they reach the destination, if a problem arises the computer cannot solve -- or if they receive a transmission that FTL has been invented.
25th Sep '16 8:36:49 PM Yozzy
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' has a variation on this: FTL travel is done by putting the ship in [[HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace an alternate dimension full of demons and derelict spaceships that requires a special inbred psychic mutant to read its tides and currents]], but is ''highly'' inconsistent in [[TimeyWimeyBall how time passes relative to 'real space' every time you make a jump]]. Ships are ''expected'' to not arrive on schedule because of this, although a decent Navigator (the aforementioned mutant) can usually come close (give or take a couple of months). That said, the trip can take months or even years (from the crew's perspective) but poor warp conditions can delay a ship for centuries (from the destination's perspective) without it being any the wiser; more than one Imperial fleet has arrived to relive a besieged planet generations after when it was expected or would have done any good. Fleets stay together by using the same Navigator's directions, although every fleet carries the expectation that a couple of ships will get lost on the way, potentially playing this trope completely straight.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' has a variation on this: FTL travel is done by putting opening a temporary rift into [[SubspaceOrHyperspace the ship in Warp]] (also called Warpspace, among a few dozen other names) and flying through until they get to the destination. That said, the Warp is [[HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace an alternate dimension comprised of forms of energy that is antithetical to most living beings, the laws of physics is a set of jokes, and it's full of demons demons, haunted and derelict spaceships that spaceships, and several flavors of god monsters]]; and it requires a special inbred special, inbred, psychic mutant to read its tides and currents]], but currents. That said, time is ''highly'' inconsistent in [[TimeyWimeyBall how time passes relative to 'real space' every time you make a jump]]. Ships are ''expected'' to not arrive on schedule because of this, although a decent Navigator (the aforementioned mutant) can usually come close (give or take a couple of months). That said, the trip can take months or even years (from the crew's perspective) but poor warp conditions can delay a ship for centuries (from the destination's perspective) perspective of realspace) without it the crew being any the wiser; more than one Imperial fleet has arrived on schedule to relive relieve a besieged planet generations after when it was expected or would have done any good.planet, only to find that the conflict came to a close long ago. Fleets stay together by using the same Navigator's directions, although every fleet carries the expectation that a couple of ships will get lost on the way, potentially playing this trope completely straight.
27th Aug '16 7:47:14 AM erforce
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* This was the origin of Vance Astro in ''GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''. He was cryogenically frozen and sent on the first manned space mission to another star. When he arrived, he discovered that Earth had invented faster-than-light travel and had colonised the world he was heading for. He was hailed as a hero but found he had arrived in a world where he no longer had a place.

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* This was the origin of Vance Astro in ''GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''.''Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''. He was cryogenically frozen and sent on the first manned space mission to another star. When he arrived, he discovered that Earth had invented faster-than-light travel and had colonised the world he was heading for. He was hailed as a hero but found he had arrived in a world where he no longer had a place.
5th Mar '16 2:43:49 PM Fireblood
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* The season 1 finale of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "The Neutral Zone", is in part about a recovered ship sent from Earth in the pre-warp era, with [[HumanPopsicle cryogenically frozen passengers]]. Exactly ''why'' it was sent from Earth when the cryogenically frozen passengers were of the 'frozen for future medicine to cure' variety rather than the 'frozen to suspend aging until the ship arrives' variety is never explained, although it's hinted to have been accidental. Neither is [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale how they got a few thousand lightyears from Earth in a matter of four hundred years]].

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* The season 1 finale of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "The Neutral Zone", is in part about a recovered ship sent from Earth in the pre-warp era, with [[HumanPopsicle cryogenically frozen passengers]]. Exactly ''why'' Apparently it was sent from drifted out of Earth when the cryogenically frozen passengers were of the 'frozen for future medicine to cure' variety rather than the 'frozen to suspend aging until the ship arrives' variety is never explained, although it's hinted to have been accidental. Neither is orbit at some point and traveled [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale how they got a few thousand lightyears from Earth in a matter of four hundred years]].years]] (one ExpandedUniverse novel fixes this by revealing it was deliberately moved by aliens, for some unknown reason).
3rd Mar '16 6:22:44 PM nitroglycol
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* "[[http://www.sfwriter.com/stshould.htm On the Shoulders of Giants]]" by Robert Sawyer would more accurately be called "relativistic leapfrog", since no FTL travel occurs. The colonists arrive in a sleeper ship at about 1% of the speed of light. and find out their intended planet is already colonized and thriving. Fortunately, they manage to convince the colony to give them a relativistic ship to carry sleepers to head for the Andromeda galaxy.

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* "[[http://www.sfwriter.com/stshould.htm On the Shoulders of Giants]]" by Robert Sawyer Creator/RobertJSawyer would more accurately be called "relativistic leapfrog", since no FTL travel occurs. The colonists arrive in a sleeper ship at about 1% of the speed of light. and find out their intended planet is already colonized and thriving. Fortunately, they manage to convince the colony to give them a relativistic ship to carry sleepers to head for the Andromeda galaxy.
3rd Mar '16 6:19:44 PM nitroglycol
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* "[[http://www.sfwriter.com/stshould.htm On the Shoulders of Giants]]" by Robert Sawyer: The colonists arrive and find out their planet is already colonized and thriving. Fortunately, they manage to convince the colony to give them an FTL ship to carry sleepers to head for the Andromeda galaxy.

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* "[[http://www.sfwriter.com/stshould.htm On the Shoulders of Giants]]" by Robert Sawyer: Sawyer would more accurately be called "relativistic leapfrog", since no FTL travel occurs. The colonists arrive in a sleeper ship at about 1% of the speed of light. and find out their intended planet is already colonized and thriving. Fortunately, they manage to convince the colony to give them an FTL a relativistic ship to carry sleepers to head for the Andromeda galaxy.
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