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18th Jul '17 4:09:08 PM Ilya_Rysenkov
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*** It should be pointed out that his half-sister is biased, and ironically, Galad is actually ''less'' LawfulStupid than the above.
15th Jul '17 5:49:14 PM Macecurb
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** Leon was also dumb in that, while he was stripped of his title and weapons, he still very likely could have taken one as he left, but didn't since as he was no longer a knight, they were not his to use. While those weapons would have been far less effective than the whip ended up being, anything would have certainly been better than running in enmpy-handed.

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** Leon was also dumb in that, while he was stripped of his title and weapons, he still very likely could have taken one as he left, but didn't since as he was no longer a knight, they were not his to use. While those weapons would have been far less effective than the whip ended up being, anything would have certainly been better than running in enmpy-handed.empty-handed.
8th Jul '17 9:44:18 PM NOYB
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* Cao Cao in the ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' and ''Three Kingdoms'' period? Arguably; either he is Lawful Stupid, a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity real master of PR]], or simply [[MagnificentBastard awesome]]. In one instance, his troops are marching through wheat fields when Cao orders the men not trample the wheat, or they will be beheaded. Doing so, he wins the peasants' affections, since the peasants would like to eventually eat. Unfortunately, Cao's horse bolts and tramples some of the wheat in a panic. The law [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections technically doesn't apply to Cao Cao]]. Accounts vary, but in one version Cao either goes to take his own life or orders himself executed. His men intervene and stop him, and Cao Cao instead cuts his hair in disgrace and shows it to the army. Either Cao Cao proved uncharacteristically Lawful Stupid at that moment, or he [[TheChessmaster knew his men would spare him.]] Regardless, knowing their boss was quite willing to suffer such harsh discipline himself raised his men's moral and discipline greatly. Lawful Stupid or brilliant: could go either way.

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* Cao Cao in the ''Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms'' and ''Three Kingdoms'' period? Arguably; either he is Lawful Stupid, a [[VillainWithGoodPublicity real master of PR]], or simply [[MagnificentBastard awesome]]. In one instance, his troops are marching through wheat fields when Cao orders the men not trample the wheat, or they will be beheaded. Doing so, he wins the peasants' affections, since the peasants would like to eventually eat. Unfortunately, Cao's horse bolts and tramples some of the wheat in a panic. The law [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections technically doesn't apply to Cao Cao]]. Accounts vary, but in one version Cao either goes to take his own life or orders himself executed. His men intervene and stop him, and Cao Cao instead cuts his hair in disgrace and shows it to the army. Either Cao Cao proved uncharacteristically Lawful Stupid at that moment, or he [[TheChessmaster knew his men would spare him.]] Regardless, knowing their boss was quite willing to suffer such harsh discipline himself raised his men's moral morale and discipline greatly. Lawful Stupid or brilliant: could go either way.
8th Jul '17 9:43:22 PM NOYB
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* In Creator/LJagiLamplighter's ''[[Literature/RachelGriffin The Raven, the Elf, and Rachel]]'', Nastasia. Chiefly idrected at herself and her friends. She completely accepts a detention for breaking an order in order to pull a BigDamnHeroes and ''save lives''. And she is actually disappointed when it's revealed that it was, in reality, an excuse to get them out of the school without undue attention.

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* In Creator/LJagiLamplighter's ''[[Literature/RachelGriffin The Raven, the Elf, and Rachel]]'', Nastasia. Chiefly idrected directed at herself and her friends. She completely accepts a detention for breaking an order in order to pull a BigDamnHeroes and ''save lives''. And she is actually disappointed when it's revealed that it was, in reality, an excuse to get them out of the school without undue attention.
8th Jul '17 9:42:17 PM NOYB
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* ''Everyone'' in the city of Tonzimmiel is some mix of Lawful Stupid and LawfulNeutral in Literature/TheQuestOfTheUnaligned. For example, the entire plot is touched off when ninth-level security chief Alaric loses a bar bet and is required by the terms of his bet to go on the titular Quest Of The Unaligned, losing his job in the process. {{Justified|Trope}} in that Tonzimmiel was explicitly built as a society ruled entirely by laws, rankings, and contracts.

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* ''Everyone'' in the city of Tonzimmiel is some mix of Lawful Stupid and LawfulNeutral in Literature/TheQuestOfTheUnaligned.''Literature/TheQuestOfTheUnaligned''. For example, the entire plot is touched off when ninth-level security chief Alaric loses a bar bet and is required by the terms of his bet to go on the titular Quest Of The Unaligned, losing his job in the process. {{Justified|Trope}} in that Tonzimmiel was explicitly built as a society ruled entirely by laws, rankings, and contracts.
8th Jul '17 9:41:53 PM NOYB
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* Literature/InDeath series: An FBI agent named Jacoby comes off as this in ''Betrayal In Death''. Commander Whitney even warns Eve to be careful, because this guy could try to hang her up on a technicality.

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* Literature/InDeath ''Literature/InDeath'' series: An FBI agent named Jacoby comes off as this in ''Betrayal In Death''. Commander Whitney even warns Eve to be careful, because this guy could try to hang her up on a technicality.
8th Jul '17 9:41:36 PM NOYB
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* Eragon for the ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'' could fall under this for his treatment of Sloan. The butcher betrays his village to some minions in hopes of freedom for himself and his daughter, only to be betrayed and subsequently held hostage and tortured for several months. After Eragon "rescues" him, he decides to punish the man further by preventing him from ever seeing his daughter again. Ignoring that she is all he lives for and gave up everything. It is a FateWorseThanDeath.

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* Eragon for the ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'' could fall under this for his treatment of Sloan. The butcher betrays his village to some minions in hopes of freedom for himself and his daughter, only to be betrayed and subsequently held hostage and tortured for several months. After Eragon "rescues" him, he decides to punish the man further by preventing him from ever seeing his daughter again. Ignoring that she is all he lives for and gave up everything.everything for. It is a FateWorseThanDeath.
8th Jul '17 9:38:45 PM NOYB
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** And Harry himself is the master of LoopholeAbuse which is a key survival trait when dealing with the Fae (though by their standards he's merely a somewhat-talented amateur).

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** And Harry himself is the master of LoopholeAbuse LoopholeAbuse, which is a key survival trait when dealing with the Fae (though by their standards he's merely a somewhat-talented amateur).
8th Jul '17 9:29:10 PM NOYB
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** This is taken to such extremes that he lets [[spoiler:his mentor and only true Aes Sedai ally]] GET KILLED because he refuses to kill his past self's psychotic former girlfriend (don't ask) when she becomes homicidal. Despite the fact that she is also threatening the woman he loves. As of the latest books, he has finally gotten over this along with the rest of his psychological issues.

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** This is taken to such extremes that he lets [[spoiler:his mentor and only true Aes Sedai ally]] GET (apparently) KILLED because he refuses to kill his past self's psychotic former girlfriend (don't ask) when she becomes homicidal. Despite the fact that she is also threatening the woman he loves. As of the latest books, he has finally gotten over this along with the rest of his psychological issues.
8th Jul '17 9:23:43 PM NOYB
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** In a similar vein, the asari themselves hold the Justicars in high regard and respect the questionable rigidness of their code; they're treated as heroes akin to knights in human history, so they're given a lot of leeway. However, most asari also realize how archaic the code is, and more importantly they realize how other races wouldn't understand or respect the righteous code of the Justicars outside of asari culture. Samara's recruitment mission involves you helping a local asari detective from getting Samara out of Illium as fast as possible to A. prevent her from restraining Samara, thus forcing Samara to kill the detective, and B. reduce the risk of Samara causing a cross-species incident.

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** In a similar vein, the asari themselves hold the Justicars in high regard and respect the questionable rigidness of their code; they're treated as heroes akin to knights in human history, so they're given a lot of leeway. However, most asari also realize how archaic the code is, and more importantly they realize how other races wouldn't understand or respect the righteous code of the Justicars outside of asari culture. Samara's recruitment mission involves you helping a local asari detective from getting get Samara out of Illium as fast as possible to A. a) prevent her from restraining Samara, thus forcing Samara to kill the detective, and B. b) reduce the risk of Samara causing a cross-species incident.
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