* ShownTheirWork: Impressive amounts of research have gone into this timeline, and the author isn't afraid to let it show. For one, he actually gives a well-researched rebuttal of the common argument that "native Australians didn't develop agriculture because there are no domesticable Australian plants". In reality, a lot of Australian plants have been domesticated in our history, but none of them are good "founder crops" - i.e. crops that are easy to plant and harvest and are vital to learning the basics of proper agriculture. The fictional red yam (a cousin of real Australian yam plants that gives higher yields than them) serves as the founder crop that never occurred in our history. The natives learn how to repeatedly farm it, and gradually learn to farm and harvest other domesticable species as well. Their efforts are later boosted by the adoption of another native ethnicity's idea of raising fish in simple man-made ponds. Later, they domesticate various kinds of waterfowl (raised in the same fish ponds), raise emus on pastures and tame [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoll quolls]] to hunt smaller pests in a manner similar to cats. Eventually, several civilizations crop up all over Australia thanks to the exchange of ideas and resources and make discoveries in metallurgy, architecture, warfare and astronomy.

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9th Feb '13 2:35:04 AM ZemplinTemplar

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* HorseOfADifferentColour: Averted. Despite some minor [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=2419941&postcount=367 lighthearted joking]] from other AH.com members, Jared has confirmed that there is simply no way of having believable beasts of burden or cavalry animals even in this alternate Australia. Kangaroos are impractical and are nearly untamable, while emus aren't strong or intelligent enough to pull carts of act as horses. This also [[RealityEnsues ties into]] the timeline's fictional history: An early great empire spanning much of southeastern Australia starts becoming unmanageable due to having grown too big. Since there are no beasts of burden or land vehicles available, even the mighty and skilled armies of the empire have a problem of being constantly overstretched, despite there being garrisons and foot messengers in every province. In short, it's an massive [[InvertedTrope inversion]] of EasyLogistics. The native cultures can only rely on boats and dog-drawn [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travois travois]] (making their situation reminiscent to that of Native Americans). During the 12th-14th century, simple wagons are finally invented in one of the empires in the southeastern part of the continent - however, this invention doesn't really spread to other Australian cultures, due to the protectiveness of its originators.

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* HorseOfADifferentColour: Averted. Despite some minor [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=2419941&postcount=367 lighthearted joking]] from other AH.com members, Jared has confirmed that there is simply no way of having believable beasts of burden or cavalry animals even in this alternate Australia. Kangaroos are impractical and are nearly untamable, while emus aren't strong or intelligent enough to pull carts or act as horses. This also [[RealityEnsues ties into]] the timeline's fictional history: An early great empire spanning much of southeastern Australia starts becoming unmanageable due to having grown too big. Since there are no beasts of burden or land vehicles available, even the mighty and skilled armies of the empire have a problem of being constantly overstretched, despite there being garrisons and foot messengers in every province. In short, it's an massive [[InvertedTrope inversion]] of EasyLogistics. The native cultures can only rely on boats and dog-drawn [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travois travois]] (making their situation reminiscent to that of Native Americans). During the 12th-14th century, simple wagons are finally invented in one of the empires in the southeastern part of the continent - however, this invention doesn't really spread to other Australian cultures, due to the protectiveness of its originators.

6th Feb '13 10:43:16 PM CyberPhoenix

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Trying to expand and fix some errors.

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* ShownTheirWork: Impressive amounts of research have gone into this timeline, and the author isn't afraid to let it show. For one, he actually gives a well-researched rebutal of the common argument that "native Australians didn't develop agriculture because there are no domesticable Australian plants". In reality, a lot of Australian plants have been domesticated in our history, but none of them are good "founder crops" - i.e. crops that are easy to plant and harvest and are vital to learning the basics of proper agriculture. The fictional red yam (a cousin of real Australian yam plants that gives higher yields than them) serves as the founder crop that never occured in our history. The natives learn how to repeatedly farm it, and gradually learn to farm and harvest other domesticable species as well. Their efforts are later boosted by the adoption of another native ethnicity's idea of raising fish in simple man-made ponds. Later, they domesticate various kinds of waterfowl (raised in the same fish ponds), raise emus on pastures and tame [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoll quolls]] to hunt smaller pests in a manner similar to cats. Eventually, several civilizations crop up all over Australia thanks to the exchange of ideas and resources and make discoveries in metallurgy, architecture, warfare and astronomy.

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* ShoutOut: In the year 1632, an English statesman says of the plagues ravaging Europe: "It is as if a [[SixteenThirtyTwo ring of fire]] has encircled the Continent."
* ShownTheirWork: Impressive amounts of research have gone into this timeline, and the author isn't afraid to let it show. For one, he actually gives a well-researched rebuttal of the common argument that "native Australians didn't develop agriculture because there are no domesticable Australian plants". In reality, a lot of Australian plants have been domesticated in our history, but none of them are good "founder crops" - i.e. crops that are easy to plant and harvest and are vital to learning the basics of proper agriculture. The fictional red yam (a cousin of real Australian yam plants that gives higher yields than them) serves as the founder crop that never occurred in our history. The natives learn how to repeatedly farm it, and gradually learn to farm and harvest other domesticable species as well. Their efforts are later boosted by the adoption of another native ethnicity's idea of raising fish in simple man-made ponds. Later, they domesticate various kinds of waterfowl (raised in the same fish ponds), raise emus on pastures and tame [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoll quolls]] to hunt smaller pests in a manner similar to cats. Eventually, several civilizations crop up all over Australia thanks to the exchange of ideas and resources and make discoveries in metallurgy, architecture, warfare and astronomy.

2nd Feb '13 1:48:24 PM CyberPhoenix

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Just trying to expand the list a little

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* HorseOfADifferentColour: Averted. Despite some minor [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=2419941&postcount=367 lighthearted joking]] from other AH.com members, Jared has confirmed that there is simply no way of having believable beasts of burden or cavalry animals even in this alternate Australia. Kangaroos are impractical and are nearly untamable, while emus aren't strong or intelligent enough to pull carts of act as horses. This also [[RealityEnsues ties into]] the timeline's fictional history: An early great empire spanning much of southeastern Australia starts becoming unmanageble due to having grown too big. Since there are no beasts of burden or land vehicles available, even the mighty and skilled armies of the empire have a problem of being constantly overstretched, despite there being garrisons and foot messengers in every province. In short, it's an massive [[InvertedTrope inversion]] of EasyLogistics. The native cultures can only rely on boats and dog-drawn [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travois travois]] (making their situation reminescent to that of Native Americans). During the 12th-14th century, simple wagons are finally invented in one of the empires in the southeastern part of the continent - however, this invention doesn't really spread to other Australian cultures, due to the protectiveness of its originators.

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21st Oct '12 9:50:18 AM ZemplinTemplar

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