History Main / KudzuPlot

19th Jul '17 2:56:59 PM rtozier2011
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* ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' suffers badly from this. In telling Roland's history, a good four hundred something pages is dedicated to a love interest of Roland's and how it helped start what is undoubtedly the most catastrophic war in the history of everything, yet only one chapter is devoted to its final battle, one sentence describes how it ended, and one sentence describes how Roland survives. Roland's parents only make one or two appearances, John Farson never shows up, and the fates of Alain and Cuthbert are practically {{Hand Wave}}d. In the main plot, ContinuityDrift is blatant, {{anticlimax}}es are everywhere, and there are so many flimsy explanations and {{Plot Hole}}s. Much of this can be attributed to Creator/StephenKing changing up the plot of the last three books following his near-fatal car accident, and an original plan to write ten books rather than seven. He claimed in an interview that he might write another book taking place in between books 4 and 5 to resolve the loose ends.

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* ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' suffers badly from this. In telling Roland's history, a good four hundred something pages is dedicated to a love interest of Roland's and how it helped start what is undoubtedly the most catastrophic war in the history of everything, yet only one chapter is devoted to its final battle, one sentence describes how it ended, and one sentence describes how Roland survives. Roland's parents only make one or two appearances, John Farson never shows up, and the fates of Alain and Cuthbert are practically {{Hand Wave}}d. In the main plot, ContinuityDrift is blatant, {{anticlimax}}es are everywhere, and there are so many flimsy explanations and {{Plot Hole}}s. Much of this can be attributed to Creator/StephenKing changing up the plot of the last three books following his near-fatal car accident, and an original plan to write ten books rather than seven. He claimed in an interview that he might write [[Literature/TheWindThroughTheKeyhole another book book]] taking place in between books 4 and 5 to resolve the loose ends.
18th Jul '17 7:04:55 AM SimYouLater
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The TropeNamer is a plant, one of Japan's top exports to the DeepSouth. It was initially imported as a way to improve the soil, but it quickly gained a reputation for growing all over the place, being very hard to rein in, and choking out other plants. It's also [[IThoughtItMeant not to be confused with]] the NewspaperComic of [[ComicStrip/{{Kudzu}} the same name]].

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The TropeNamer is a plant, one of Japan's top exports to the DeepSouth. It was initially imported as a way to improve the soil, but it quickly gained a reputation for growing all over the place, being very hard to rein in, and choking out other plants. Named after the same plant as AlienKudzu, but [[IThoughtItMeant the two tropes are unrelated]]. It's also [[IThoughtItMeant not to be confused with]] the NewspaperComic of [[ComicStrip/{{Kudzu}} the same name]].
10th Jul '17 9:12:16 AM Sapphirea2
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** Creator/StevenMoffat's era, Series 5-10, quickly gained a reputation for this sort of thing. For instance, Series 5 left all sorts of dangling plot threads, like who the Silence is, who [[spoiler:took control of the TARDIS]] in "The Pandorica Opens", who River Song is, and why [[spoiler:the TARDIS blowing up would destroy the Universe]] (which even the Doctor admits he's not sure about). He resolved almost all of these in Series 6, only to raise even ''more'' questions. This pattern has continued throughout his tenure with each series bringing in more outlandish situations, some of which will likely never be answered -- such as how, post-series 9, [[spoiler: Clara Oswald returns to her final death]]. ''Sometimes'' he would take the opportunity to resolve something that's been dangling for several series out of the blue. The ChristmasEpisode post-Series 9 explained [[spoiler:the circumstances of River's last night with the Doctor on Darillium]], which had been hanging since Series 4. The Series 10 SeasonFinale revealed [[spoiler: what happened to the Harold Saxon Master after "The End of Time" and how he regenerated into Missy from there]]. And then [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E12TheDoctorFalls that same episode]], the second-to-last of his tenure, left dangling [[spoiler: the fate of Nardole and the solar farmers (who apparently are doomed to forever fight Cybermen on a giant spaceship caught in a black hole), whether Missy was able to survive being killed by Saxon or not, whether Bill ever returns to Earth and human form ''and/or'' meets the Doctor (whom she thought dead) again, what became of the Vault beneath St. Luke's and the Doctor's teaching job there, ''and'' the origin of the spaceship that left the fuel puddle that transformed Heather]]...

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** Creator/StevenMoffat's era, Series 5-10, quickly gained a reputation for this sort of thing. For instance, Series 5 left all sorts of dangling plot threads, like who the Silence is, who [[spoiler:took control of the TARDIS]] in "The Pandorica Opens", who River Song is, and why [[spoiler:the TARDIS blowing up would destroy the Universe]] (which even the Doctor admits he's not sure about). He resolved almost all of these in Series 6, only to raise even ''more'' questions. This pattern has continued throughout his tenure with each series bringing in more outlandish situations, some of which will likely never be answered -- such as how, post-series 9, [[spoiler: Clara Oswald returns to her final death]]. ''Sometimes'' he would take the opportunity to resolve something that's been dangling for several series out of the blue. The ChristmasEpisode post-Series 9 explained [[spoiler:the circumstances of River's last night with the Doctor on Darillium]], which had been hanging since Series 4. The Series 10 SeasonFinale revealed [[spoiler: what happened to the Harold Saxon Master after "The End of Time" and how he regenerated into Missy from there]]. And then [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E12TheDoctorFalls that same episode]], the second-to-last of his tenure, left dangling [[spoiler: the fate of Nardole and the solar farmers (who apparently are doomed to forever fight Cybermen on a giant spaceship caught in a black hole), whether Missy was able to survive being killed by Saxon or not, whether Bill ever returns to Earth and human form ''and/or'' meets the Doctor (whom she thought dead) again, what became of the Vault beneath St. Luke's and the Doctor's teaching job there, ''and'' the origin of the spaceship that left the fuel puddle that transformed Heather]]...''and'' [[spoiler: whether the Doctor finds out about '''any''' of these characters' fates]]!
10th Jul '17 9:10:07 AM Sapphirea2
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** Creator/StevenMoffat's era quickly gained a reputation for this sort of thing. For instance, Series 5 left all sorts of dangling plot threads, like who the Silence is, who [[spoiler:took control of the TARDIS]] in "The Pandorica Opens", who River Song is, and why [[spoiler:the TARDIS blowing up would destroy the Universe]] (which even the Doctor admits he's not sure about). He resolved almost all of these in Series 6, only to raise even ''more'' questions. This pattern has continued throughout his tenure, with each series bringing in more outlandish situations, some of which will likely never be answered (such as how, in Series 8, [[spoiler: The Master survived "The End of Time" and regenerated into Missy -- aside from Joker Immunity(this may, however be explained in an upcoming Series 10 episode in which Simm will be guest starring)]], or how, post-Series 9, [[spoiler: Clara Oswald returns to her final death]]). ''Sometimes'' he'll take the opportunity to resolve something that's been dangling for several series out of the blue, like in the ChristmasEpisode post-Series 9, where he explained [[spoiler:the circumstances of River's last night with the Doctor on Darillium]], which had been hanging since Series 4!

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** Creator/StevenMoffat's era era, Series 5-10, quickly gained a reputation for this sort of thing. For instance, Series 5 left all sorts of dangling plot threads, like who the Silence is, who [[spoiler:took control of the TARDIS]] in "The Pandorica Opens", who River Song is, and why [[spoiler:the TARDIS blowing up would destroy the Universe]] (which even the Doctor admits he's not sure about). He resolved almost all of these in Series 6, only to raise even ''more'' questions. This pattern has continued throughout his tenure, tenure with each series bringing in more outlandish situations, some of which will likely never be answered (such -- such as how, in Series 8, [[spoiler: The Master survived "The End of Time" and regenerated into Missy -- aside from Joker Immunity(this may, however be explained in an upcoming Series 10 episode in which Simm will be guest starring)]], or how, post-Series post-series 9, [[spoiler: Clara Oswald returns to her final death]]). death]]. ''Sometimes'' he'll he would take the opportunity to resolve something that's been dangling for several series out of the blue, like in the blue. The ChristmasEpisode post-Series 9, where he 9 explained [[spoiler:the circumstances of River's last night with the Doctor on Darillium]], which had been hanging since Series 4!4. The Series 10 SeasonFinale revealed [[spoiler: what happened to the Harold Saxon Master after "The End of Time" and how he regenerated into Missy from there]]. And then [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E12TheDoctorFalls that same episode]], the second-to-last of his tenure, left dangling [[spoiler: the fate of Nardole and the solar farmers (who apparently are doomed to forever fight Cybermen on a giant spaceship caught in a black hole), whether Missy was able to survive being killed by Saxon or not, whether Bill ever returns to Earth and human form ''and/or'' meets the Doctor (whom she thought dead) again, what became of the Vault beneath St. Luke's and the Doctor's teaching job there, ''and'' the origin of the spaceship that left the fuel puddle that transformed Heather]]...
1st Jul '17 5:29:52 AM DarkPhoenix94
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** The only reason that it hasn't careened into this trope full on is because plot points seeded do usually boomerang back at some point, with apparent side characters staffing a vast ChekhovsArmy armed with the contents of an even largely ChekhovsArmory. However, it's been going on so long that the author has admitted that even with his excellent memory and careful plotting, he does occasionally forget about plot points entirely.

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** The only reason that it hasn't careened into this trope full on is because plot points seeded do usually boomerang back at some point, with apparent side characters staffing a vast ChekhovsArmy armed with the contents of an even largely larger ChekhovsArmory. However, it's been going on so long that the author has admitted that even with his excellent memory and careful plotting, he does occasionally forget about plot points entirely.
1st Jul '17 5:29:28 AM DarkPhoenix94
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* Creator/NimbusLlewelyn tap dances on the edge of this trope, particularly with ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm''. It started out as a fairly straightforward fic (Thor was James Potter, this is discovered, everything goes from there) which was intended to hit 150,000 words at most and cover all seven books. Over a period of four years, it evolved into an 820,000 word juggernaut (the sequel and two-shot spinoff take the series total to over a ''million words'') that only covers ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' and has quite possibly the longest entry on the GambitPileUp page for very good reason. Whenever a plot twist is resolved, at least three more are seeded. There are also supposedly plans for up to ''fifteen'' more books in the series. The only reason that it hasn't careened into this trope full on is because plot points seeded do usually boomerang back at some point. However, it's been going on so long that the author has admitted that even with his excellent memory and careful plotting, he does occasionally forget about plot points entirely.

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* Creator/NimbusLlewelyn tap dances on the edge of this trope, particularly with ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm''. It started out as a fairly straightforward fic (Thor was James Potter, this is discovered, everything goes from there) which was intended to hit 150,000 words at most and cover all seven books. Over a period of four years, it evolved into an 820,000 word juggernaut (the sequel and two-shot spinoff take the series total to over a ''million words'') that only covers ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' and has quite possibly the longest entry on the GambitPileUp page for very good reason. Whenever a plot twist is resolved, at least three more are seeded. There are also supposedly plans for up to ''fifteen'' more books in the series.
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The only reason that it hasn't careened into this trope full on is because plot points seeded do usually boomerang back at some point.point, with apparent side characters staffing a vast ChekhovsArmy armed with the contents of an even largely ChekhovsArmory. However, it's been going on so long that the author has admitted that even with his excellent memory and careful plotting, he does occasionally forget about plot points entirely.
1st Jul '17 5:28:08 AM DarkPhoenix94
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* Creator/NimbusLlewelyn tap dances on the edge of this trope, particularly with ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm''. It started out as a fairly straightforward fic (Thor was James Potter, this is discovered, everything goes from there) which was intended to hit 150,000 words at most and cover all seven books. Over a period of four years, it evolved into an 820,000 word juggernaut (the sequel and two-shot spinoff take the series total to over a ''million words'') that only covers ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' and has quite possibly the longest entry on the GambitPileUp page for very good reason. Whenever a plot twist is resolved, at least three more are seeded. There are also supposedly plans for up to ''fifteen'' more books in the series. The only reason that it hasn't careened into this trope full on is because plot points seeded do usually boomerang back at some point. However, it's been going on so long that the author has admitted that even with his excellent memory and careful plotting, he does occasionally forget about plot points entirely.
30th Jun '17 8:02:30 PM Madrugada
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* The many spin-off novels based on ''Series/MASH'' tend to run to about 205 pages long. The plot starts out complicated, and gets more and more convoluted, in order to involve as many of the established characters as possible, up to somewhere about page 187. Then the author starts tying off loose ends with wild abandon, and very little sense, until hey, presto! everything is resolved.
25th Jun '17 11:23:33 PM magicalrealist
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* ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' is a notable aversion, what with all the LoadsAndLoadsOfChara'cters in turn being a ChekhovsArmy, and how what ''seem'' to be one shot stories at first feed back into later plotlines.

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* ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' is a notable aversion, what with all the LoadsAndLoadsOfChara'cters LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters in turn being a ChekhovsArmy, and how what ''seem'' to be one shot stories at first feed back into later plotlines.
11th Jun '17 10:24:44 AM JoeMerl
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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' season 20 continued the [[LaterInstallmentWeirdness new trend]] of season-long arcs, but proved too ambitious for its own good. Compared to season 19, it was much more trying to be one cohesive story, and its RippedFromTheHeadlines strategy proved to be a problem when [[RealLifeWritesThePlot the 2016 presidential election didn't turn out like the creators apparently expected]].
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