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26th Jan '16 5:13:11 AM Bicorn
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* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Creator/ChrisClaremont is famous in the comics community for the truly epic number of dangling plot threads amassed as a writer. Summed up hilariously in ''X-Men: The End'', an AlternateContinuity miniseries written by (of all people) Claremont himself that attempted, in one stroke, to resolve every dangling plot thread ever introduced in the entire ''X-Men'' meta-saga (many of which Claremont had created). As one might expect, the story grows exponentially more incomprehensible with every issue, culminating with a duel between Jean Grey and Cassandra Nova for control of the Phoenix Force. Incidentally, you calculate a plot's "Claremont coefficient" by dividing the number of plot points introduced by the number of ones followed up on. If the result is over 1 in most or all episodes, you have a Kudzu Plot.
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* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Creator/ChrisClaremont is famous in the comics community for the truly epic number of dangling plot threads amassed as a writer. Summed up hilariously in ''X-Men: The End'', an AlternateContinuity miniseries written by (of all people) Claremont himself that attempted, in one stroke, to resolve every dangling plot thread ever introduced in the entire ''X-Men'' meta-saga (many of which Claremont had created). As one might expect, the story grows exponentially more incomprehensible with every issue, culminating with a duel between Jean Grey and Cassandra Nova for control of the Phoenix Force. Incidentally, you calculate Force. ** He is infamous enough for this that a plot's formula dubbed "Claremont coefficient" was coined; it is calculated by dividing the number of plot points introduced by the number of ones followed up on. If the result is over 1 in most or all episodes, you have a Kudzu Plot.
14th Jan '16 12:18:12 AM crashkey
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** As far as we know, the story is ''still'' not completed, with more prequels on the way. *** The Kudzu plant is actually referenced in ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 3|SnakeEater}}'' amusingly enough. It is noted how invasive the plant is and that it quickly kills other plants nearby because of how fast it grows. This entire franchise can be likened onto the plant.
2nd Jan '16 9:51:42 PM jjhj
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While it may be in subtle ways, there is basically nothing that isn't hinted at in small ways in the first 25 episodes. The supplements are just that: supplemental material that isn't nessasary with careful watching.
*** Unlike some other Kudzu Plots, it's literally impossible to fully understand what's going on in the series with the information given in the actual show, movie included. The necessary pieces to understand the whole plot are only given in third party material, officially endorsed by Gainax.
15th Dec '15 2:38:45 PM CheeseDogX
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** The recording of Talia is kinda covered in the episode where the character left the show. Garibaldi remembers hearing about the recording, and runs off to get it from Kosh. WordOfGod is that the recording contained [[spoiler: proof that Psi Corps had implanted a new personality inside Talia's head]], which they were able to use to blackmail Psi Corps into not divulging anything Talia knew about LaResistance.
15th Dec '15 2:28:20 PM CheeseDogX
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*** Marduk appeared in another episode as a Goa'uld, but there's no indication that the writers for that episode where aware of his connection to the 1st Season aliens.
15th Dec '15 2:21:39 PM CheeseDogX
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* ''Series/StargateSG1'' suffers from this as well. What ever happened to that hastily-put-together human kid "Charlie" from the Re'tu episode? Everyone's just assuming that the Tollan were wiped out by Tanith's forces (despite it being highly improbable that a single Goa'uld mothership, no matter how advanced, would be able to prevent ''everyone'' on a spacefaring planet from escaping), but they never went back and conclusively proved it. Did Colonel Landry and [[spoiler:his daughter]] Dr. Lam ever put their differences aside? Is freaking ''Athena'' still free on Earth and running a company? Whatever happened to Daniel's grandfather? Are there actually fish in Jack's pond? Did Jack ever get a dog? And what exactly is a Furling anyway?
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* ''Series/StargateSG1'' suffers from this as well. What ever happened to that hastily-put-together human kid "Charlie" from the Re'tu episode? Everyone's just assuming that the Tollan were wiped out by Tanith's forces (despite it being highly improbable that a single Goa'uld mothership, no matter how advanced, would be able to prevent ''everyone'' on a spacefaring planet from escaping), but they never went back and conclusively proved it. Did Colonel General Landry and [[spoiler:his daughter]] Dr. Lam ever put their differences aside? Is freaking ''Athena'' still free on Earth and running a company? Whatever happened to Daniel's grandfather? [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Are there actually fish in Jack's pond? Did Jack ever get a dog? dog?]] And what exactly is a Furling anyway?
7th Dec '15 10:57:00 AM StFan
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Named after one of Japan's top exports to the DeepSouth -- the kudzu plant spreads all over the place, is very hard to rein in, and while initially seen as beneficial to the soil, it will often choke out otherwise healthy life. [[IThoughtItMeant Not to be confused with]] the NewspaperComic [[{{Kudzu}} of the same name]].
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Named after one of Japan's top exports to the DeepSouth -- the kudzu plant spreads all over the place, is very hard to rein in, and while initially seen as beneficial to the soil, it will often choke out otherwise healthy life. [[IThoughtItMeant Not to be confused with]] the NewspaperComic [[{{Kudzu}} [[ComicStrip/{{Kudzu}} of the same name]].name]].

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22nd Nov '15 6:01:38 PM nombretomado
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* ''TheSalvationWar'' has at least half a dozen subplots going on at any one time, so that some story threads just peter out after seeming like they would be much more important. Particularly obvious is the resistance movement in Hell of dead ancient Romans; the author admitted soon afterward that he'd planned far more for them but didn't have any room for it. A big part of the problem was that ''The Salvation War'' contained contributions from a number of authors and integrating these contributions presented a major editing problem. A major weeding exercise was in progress when the project shut down.
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* ''TheSalvationWar'' ''Literature/TheSalvationWar'' has at least half a dozen subplots going on at any one time, so that some story threads just peter out after seeming like they would be much more important. Particularly obvious is the resistance movement in Hell of dead ancient Romans; the author admitted soon afterward that he'd planned far more for them but didn't have any room for it. A big part of the problem was that ''The Salvation War'' contained contributions from a number of authors and integrating these contributions presented a major editing problem. A major weeding exercise was in progress when the project shut down.
11th Nov '15 12:17:55 PM JJMAJR
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These lines aren't about the what, they are about the why. I observed a pattern, and want to share my results.
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** Little speculation is needed for why this trope was seen here in the first place, because the writers don't have a great history with writing serious plots or good speaking roles. Lost World's plot was made in response to fan criticism of recent games, which had a poorly executed LighterAndSofter aim. Pontac and Graff written the dialogue for all Sonic games since 2010, and were directly responsible for writing the story.
1st Nov '15 2:47:52 PM Anddrix
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** Little speculation is needed for why this trope was seen here in the first place, because the writers aren't ones that have a history of making characters with much sense, in both the idea of justification and in intelligence. If you seen ''WesternAnimation/PacManAndTheGhostlyAdventures'', you seen Lost World.
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