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3rd Jul '16 10:06:31 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** That said, ''Shadow Chronicles'' itself ended on a cliffhanger like the original series, with the fate of an extremely important character hanging in the balance instead of merely unknown, another alien faction with very ominous intentions ready to raise some hell, and humanity and their allies really screwed at the moment. It doesn't help that this was supposed to be the beginning of a new chapter for the franchise and nothing much has happened since. And that's before taking into account the legal problems the franchise is having, which makes any kind of satisfying future resolution or closure to the story very unlikely; there is a planned sequel, ''Shadow Rising'', but it has been postponed indefinitely since 2009 in part due to the Warner Bros. ''Robotech'' live-action project (which itself is in DevelopmentHell). This probably ties into TheChrisCarterEffect territory as well.

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** That said, ''Shadow Chronicles'' itself ended on a cliffhanger like the original series, with the fate of an extremely important character hanging in the balance instead of merely unknown, another alien faction with very ominous intentions ready to raise some hell, and humanity and their allies really screwed at the moment. It doesn't help that this was supposed to be the beginning of a new chapter for the franchise and nothing much has happened since. And that's before taking into account the legal problems the franchise is having, which makes any kind of satisfying future resolution or closure to the story very unlikely; there is a planned sequel, ''Shadow Rising'', but it has been postponed indefinitely since 2009 in part due to the Warner Bros. ''Robotech'' live-action project (which itself is in DevelopmentHell). This probably ties into TheChrisCarterEffect territory as well.
3rd Jul '16 9:59:24 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' suffered from this in the end. Most things were left unanswered, like where is [=SDF3=] and what are shadows. Thankfully, ''WesternAnimation/RobotechTheShadowChronicles'' resolved most of them.
** Except that ''Shadow Chronicles'' ended on a cliffhanger, like the original series, with the fate of an extremely important character hanging in the balance instead of unknown, another alien faction with very ominous intentions ready to raise some hell, and humanity and their allies really screwed at the moment. It doesn't help that this was supposed to be the beginning of a new chapter for the franchise and nothing much has happened since. And that's before taking into account the legal problems the show is having, which makes any kind of future resolution or closure to the story either very unlikely or hard without extreme Willing Suspension of Disbelief. This probably ties into The Chris Carter Effect territory as well.
** There is a planned sequel, ''Shadow Rising''; but it is postponed indefinitely due as of 2009 due to the Warner Bros Robotech live-action project. Tommy announced recently that the public should expect a 2015 release.

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* ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' suffered from this in the end. Most things were left unanswered, like where "Where is [=SDF3=] the SDF-3? and what "What are shadows.'Shadows'?". Thankfully, ''WesternAnimation/RobotechTheShadowChronicles'' resolved most of them.
** Except that That said, ''Shadow Chronicles'' itself ended on a cliffhanger, cliffhanger like the original series, with the fate of an extremely important character hanging in the balance instead of merely unknown, another alien faction with very ominous intentions ready to raise some hell, and humanity and their allies really screwed at the moment. It doesn't help that this was supposed to be the beginning of a new chapter for the franchise and nothing much has happened since. And that's before taking into account the legal problems the show franchise is having, which makes any kind of satisfying future resolution or closure to the story either very unlikely or hard without extreme Willing Suspension of Disbelief. This probably ties into The Chris Carter Effect territory as well.
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3rd Jul '16 7:35:47 PM nombretomado
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* While not too complex, all the plot threads in the ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' serials are definitely difficult to keep track of. During the course of the '08, '09 and '10 stories, they "advanced" as the following:

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* While not too complex, all the plot threads in the ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' serials are definitely difficult to keep track of. During the course of the '08, '09 and '10 stories, they "advanced" as the following:
27th Jun '16 1:45:47 AM ZeroSD
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* ''Webcomic/WapsiSquare'', is a long running strip that started slice of life with a good sized cast, develops a supernatural plot with it's own castmembers, multiple of whom are immortal, and even aside from the time-loop plot there's a lot going on in it's impressive timeline! Minor plotlines and characters are known to be shuffled off at times, sometimes to appear again years later, and the supernatural aspects of the setting have only gotten more development with time.
17th Jun '16 12:20:55 AM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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** A lot of this has to do with Nomura's philosophy of adding plot twists, no matter what the rhyme or reason, in order to keep things "surprising." When asked what the most important thing to him is when making a story, he replied with this:

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** A lot of this has to do with Nomura's philosophy of [[ShockingSwerve adding plot twists, no matter what the rhyme or reason, reason]], in order to keep things "surprising." When asked what the most important thing to him is when making a story, he replied with this:



** The prequel game ''Birth by Sleep'' was an extended MindScrewdriver that explained the origins of the BigBad and Castle Oblivion and added backstory about a few characters. Then ''3D'' came along and added [[spoiler:Xehanort time-traveling to set up his own rise to villainy, and Nobodies manifesting hearts through friendship, and other such plot elements in addition to cranking the MindScrew UpToEleven.]] At this point, there are so many connections in the plots of the games that ''3D ''needed a Memento feature to prevent ContinuityLockout.

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** The prequel game ''Birth by Sleep'' was an extended MindScrewdriver that explained the origins of the BigBad and Castle Oblivion and added backstory about a few characters. Then ''3D'' came along and added [[spoiler:Xehanort time-traveling to set up his own rise to villainy, and Nobodies manifesting hearts through friendship, and other such plot elements in addition to cranking the MindScrew UpToEleven.]] At this point, there are so many connections in the plots of the games that ''3D ''needed ''3D'' needed a Memento feature to prevent ContinuityLockout.
14th Jun '16 7:10:26 PM Mr.Movie
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* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' started out as a series of simple, nonsensical plots (fighting a goo monster, a male character being stuck as a girl) with something more serious brewing in the background. +2,000 strips later, we have alternate dimensions, vampires, a race of supernatural immortals, secret government agencies, magic-eating space whales, the proliferation of magic, prophetic dreams, and even superheroes.

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* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' started out as a series of simple, nonsensical plots (fighting a goo monster, a male character being stuck as a girl) with something more serious brewing in the background. +2,000 strips later, we have alternate dimensions, vampires, a race of supernatural immortals, secret government agencies, magic-eating space whales, the proliferation of magic, prophetic dreams, and even superheroes. While some plot threads have been solved (or ignored to the point where the might as well not have existed), new ones pop up or existing ones get more complicated.
14th Jun '16 7:07:25 PM Mr.Movie
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* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' started out as a series of simple, nonsensical plots (fighting a goo monster, a male character being stuck as a girl) with something more serious brewing in the background. +2,000 strips later, we have alternate dimensions, vampires, a race of supernatural immortals, secret government agencies, magic-eating space whales, the proliferation of magic, prophetic dreams, and even superheroes.
11th Jun '16 6:40:10 PM keybounce
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*** The "Readers making it up" part was discarded by the end of the first part; all of the second and third part, as well as the long A6A6 (not on the adventure map at this time) was author scripted.
14th May '16 5:05:38 PM SSJMagus
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** Although Claremont is deservedly notorious for this, the ''Comicbook/XMen'' line's Kudzu Plot actually became far worse after he left. Notorious dropped plots include Wolverine devolving into a noseless dog creature, Cannonball being revealed as a immortal "High-Lord", and Shatterstar being a comatose boy in a mental institution the whole time (as well as his and Rictor's relationship, which was finally confirmed ten years later.) The [[{{egregious}} nadir]] of this trend was probably the Onslaught Saga, in which dozens of hints were dropped about the villain's identity before anyone (meaning the ''writers'') had bothered figuring out who he actually was.

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** Although Claremont is deservedly notorious for this, this (essentially he planned out ''Uncanny X-Men'' as if he would be the writer forever, sometimes laying out plot threads that he didn't intend to come back to for ''over a decade''), the ''Comicbook/XMen'' line's Kudzu Plot actually became far worse after he left. Notorious dropped plots include Wolverine devolving into a noseless dog creature, Cannonball being revealed as a immortal "High-Lord", and Shatterstar being a comatose boy in a mental institution the whole time (as well as his and Rictor's relationship, which was finally confirmed ten years later.) The [[{{egregious}} nadir]] of this trend was probably the Onslaught Saga, in which dozens of hints were dropped about the villain's identity before anyone (meaning the ''writers'') had bothered figuring out who he actually was.



* ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'': It started up as just another ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'' plot, but when it became the only decent comic book seller for Marvel comics during its run time in the middle of TheNineties, Marvel decided to keep it going beyond sanity. Editors and writers kept coming and going and each one had its own idea on how the plot should twist. It took about two years to kind of finish off the saga.

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* ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'': It started up as just another ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'' plot, but when it became the only decent comic book seller for Marvel comics during its run time in the middle of TheNineties, Marvel decided to keep it going beyond sanity. Editors and writers kept coming and going and each one had its own idea on how the plot should twist.twist, including constant flip-flopping over which character was the real Spidey and which was the clone. It took about two years to kind of finish off the saga.
20th Apr '16 12:31:33 PM Yumil
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** Byakuya mentions that Ichigo is the ''second'' person to have seen his bankai's ultimate attack, something he only uses when he's vowed to kill someone.

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** Byakuya mentions that Ichigo is the ''second'' person to have seen his bankai's ultimate attack, something he only uses when he's vowed to kill someone.
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