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13th Feb '17 5:30:32 PM MagnusForce
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** There's a fossil whale species named ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livyatan_melvillei Livyatan melvillei]] (from the Hebrew spelling of whale (who is the origin of the word leviathan) and the author of Moby Dick). And it is pretty [[http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-
images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/30/1277901299026/Artists-impression-of-gia-002.jpg scary-looking.]]
** It is worth knowing that the whale Moby Dick from the novel of the same name was in fact based on a [[TruthInTelevisionreal]] [[EvilAlbino albino]] sperm whale called [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFAst Mocha Dick]] - a 70-foot monstrosity of prodigious strength and cunning known to survive allegedly at least 100 encounters with whalers (destroying about 20 boats in the process) before being slain in 1838 [[HeroAntagonist trying to aid a female whose calf had been killed by harpooners.]]

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** There's a fossil whale species named ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livyatan_melvillei Livyatan melvillei]] (from the Hebrew spelling of whale (who is the origin of the word leviathan) and the author of Moby Dick). And it is pretty [[http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-
images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/30/1277901299026/Artists-impression-of-gia-002.
uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/30/1277901299026/Artists-impression-of-gia-002.jpg scary-looking.]]
** It is worth knowing that the whale Moby Dick from the novel of the same name was in fact based on a [[TruthInTelevisionreal]] [[TruthInTelevision real]] [[EvilAlbino albino]] sperm whale called [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFAst [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Mocha Dick]] - a 70-foot monstrosity of prodigious strength and cunning known to survive allegedly at least 100 encounters with whalers (destroying about 20 boats in the process) before being slain in 1838 [[HeroAntagonist trying to aid a female whose calf had been killed by harpooners.]]
11th Feb '17 3:39:18 PM Santosificationable
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** It is worth knowing that the whale Moby Dick from the novel of the same name was in fact based on a [[TruthInTelevision|real]] [[EvilAlbino|albino]] sperm whale called [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFAst|Mocha Dick]] - a 70-foot monstrosity of prodigious strength and cunning known to survive allegedly at least 100 encounters with whalers (destroying about 20 boats in the process) before being slain in 1838 [[HeroAntagonist trying to aid a female whose calf had been killed by harpooners.]]

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** It is worth knowing that the whale Moby Dick from the novel of the same name was in fact based on a [[TruthInTelevision|real]] [[EvilAlbino|albino]] [[TruthInTelevisionreal]] [[EvilAlbino albino]] sperm whale called [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFAst|Mocha [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFAst Mocha Dick]] - a 70-foot monstrosity of prodigious strength and cunning known to survive allegedly at least 100 encounters with whalers (destroying about 20 boats in the process) before being slain in 1838 [[HeroAntagonist trying to aid a female whose calf had been killed by harpooners.]]
11th Feb '17 3:37:23 PM Santosificationable
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** There's a fossil whale species named ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livyatan_melvillei Livyatan melvillei]] (from the Hebrew spelling of whale (who is the origin of the word leviathan) and the author of Moby Dick). And it is pretty [[http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/30/1277901299026/Artists-impression-of-gia-002.jpg scary-looking.]]

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** There's a fossil whale species named ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livyatan_melvillei Livyatan melvillei]] (from the Hebrew spelling of whale (who is the origin of the word leviathan) and the author of Moby Dick). And it is pretty [[http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/30/1277901299026/Artists-impression-of-gia-002.uk/sys-
images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/30/1277901299026/Artists-impression-of-gia-002.
jpg scary-looking.]]
** It is worth knowing that the whale Moby Dick from the novel of the same name was in fact based on a [[TruthInTelevision|real]] [[EvilAlbino|albino]] sperm whale called [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFAst|Mocha Dick]] - a 70-foot monstrosity of prodigious strength and cunning known to survive allegedly at least 100 encounters with whalers (destroying about 20 boats in the process) before being slain in 1838 [[HeroAntagonist trying to aid a female whose calf had been killed by harpooners.
]]



* Also, the Mosasaurs of the Cretaceous. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tylosaurus Tylosaurus]] could be nearly fifty feet long, and was the top predator of its time. Given that they were closely related to monitor lizards, and may have given rise to snakes, these are the closest things to mythical sea serpents that we're likely to find.

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* Also, the Mosasaurs of the Cretaceous. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tylosaurus Tylosaurus]] could be nearly fifty feet long, long (the largest species could reach 59 feet), and was the top predator of its time. Given that they were closely related to monitor lizards, and may have given rise to snakes, these are the closest things to mythical sea serpents that we're likely to find.



* Probably the most famous real-life example apart from whales, and the largest fish as well as the largest macropredator[[note]]as opposed to filter-feeder[[/note]] ever to live, was the ''{{Megalodon}}'', which was somewhere between 50 and 100 feet from snout to tail, about 2/3 the length of an Olympic swimming pool.

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* Probably the most famous real-life example apart from whales, and the largest fish as well as the largest macropredator[[note]]as opposed to filter-feeder[[/note]] ever to live, was the ''{{Megalodon}}'', which was somewhere between 50 and 100 50-60 feet from snout to tail, about 2/3 the length of an Olympic swimming pool.pool.
22nd Jan '17 6:50:11 AM Morgenthaler
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** Father Dagon and Mother Hydra (the titanic leaders of the [[FishPeople Deep Ones]], at least from the [[ExpandedUniverse expanded]] [[CthulhuMythos mythos]]) also count. Plenty of the other [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Old_One#Table lesser-known Great Old Ones]] may count as well.

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** Father Dagon and Mother Hydra (the titanic leaders of the [[FishPeople Deep Ones]], at least from the [[ExpandedUniverse expanded]] [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos mythos]]) also count. Plenty of the other [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Old_One#Table lesser-known Great Old Ones]] may count as well.
18th Jan '17 7:06:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* The mollusc-like, world-ending Cthulhu from Creator/HPLovecraft's CthulhuMythos ''may'' count, as it is imprisoned in the ocean on Earth, but originally came from space...

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* The mollusc-like, world-ending Cthulhu from Creator/HPLovecraft's CthulhuMythos Franchise/CthulhuMythos ''may'' count, as it is imprisoned in the ocean on Earth, but originally came from space...



* In the ScottWesterfeld ''Literature/{{Leviathan}}'' trilogy, the eponymous beast is actually a airship, that looks sort like the biggest whale you'll ever see. In the next book the Behemoth (who is supposed to be a land creature) actually live in the sea, the picture of it puts it up with Lovecraft's beasties. Also there are the normal British navies' Kraken, which are massive squid/octopus monsters that can pull a weakened ironclad under given time, as depicted [[http://www.keiththompsonart.com/pages/navalbattle.html here.]]

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* In the ScottWesterfeld Creator/ScottWesterfeld ''Literature/{{Leviathan}}'' trilogy, the eponymous beast is actually a airship, that looks sort like the biggest whale you'll ever see. In the next book the Behemoth (who is supposed to be a land creature) actually live in the sea, the picture of it puts it up with Lovecraft's beasties. Also there are the normal British navies' Kraken, which are massive squid/octopus monsters that can pull a weakened ironclad under given time, as depicted [[http://www.keiththompsonart.com/pages/navalbattle.html here.]]
8th Jan '17 6:45:33 PM BlackSunNocturne
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* Alestorm, a [[CrazyAwesome Scottish Pirate Metal band]], has a song called (and glorifying) "The Leviathan" on their album ''Black Sails At Midnight''.

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* Alestorm, Music/{{Alestorm}}, a [[CrazyAwesome Scottish Pirate Metal band]], has a song called (and glorifying) "The Leviathan" on their album ''Black Sails At Midnight''.
29th Dec '16 3:52:43 PM AgentTasmania
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** From the same band, "Death Throes of the Terrorsquid" is the sequel to "Leviathan", about the crew seeking vengeance for their defeat at the hands of the beast, and not only taking it on, but [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu sending it straight to hell]].

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** From the same band, "Death Throes of the Terrorsquid" is the sequel to "Leviathan", about the crew seeking vengeance for their defeat at the hands of the beast, and not only taking it on, but [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu sending it straight to hell]]. The beast is referred to as ''300 nautical miles long''.
13th Dec '16 10:11:34 PM Kuruni
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* [[http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/The_Monster_Girl_Encyclopedia The Monster Girl Encyclopedia,]] of course, has a CuteMonsterGirl edition of one of these. [[http://monstergirlencyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kraken Behold!]] Though this world being what it is, it's not nearly as big as most depictions of the Kraken tend to be.

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* [[http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/The_Monster_Girl_Encyclopedia The Monster ''Monster Girl Encyclopedia,]] Encyclopedia'' of course, has a CuteMonsterGirl edition of one of these. [[http://monstergirlencyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kraken Behold!]] Kraken. Though this world being what it is, it's not nearly as big as most depictions of the Kraken tend to be.
16th Nov '16 2:09:25 PM Theriocephalus
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* The "Leviathan" is described in the Literature/BookOfJob (Ch. 41, all of it) in the Old Testament of Literature/TheBible, and referenced elsewhere. Unlike most sea creatures, the Leviathan has an affinity for fire or something reasonably similar. Job 41:8 ("Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.") seems to either indicate a reasonably high encounter survival rate, considering that this creature is essentially a seagoing dragon, or "do no more" as in dead. [[spoiler: The usual naturalistic interpretation is a Nile crocodile, which fits everything but the fire breathing.]]

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* The "Leviathan" is described in the Literature/BookOfJob (Ch. 41, all of it) in the Old Testament of Literature/TheBible, and referenced elsewhere. Unlike most sea creatures, the Leviathan has an affinity for fire or something reasonably similar. Job 41:8 ("Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.") seems to either indicate a reasonably high encounter survival rate, considering that this creature is essentially a seagoing dragon, or "do a very low one ("do no more" as in dead.dead). [[spoiler: The usual naturalistic interpretation is a Nile crocodile, which fits everything but the fire breathing.]]
6th Nov '16 3:05:52 PM Theriocephalus
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These are the big ones. These are the {{sea monster}}s whose size not only matches ships but dwarfs them. When these are introduced, all you'll see is an overhead shot of a small boat on top of a much larger shadow in the water and "small boat" ranges from fishing ship to aircraft carrier. These beasts aren't just big, they're [[TitleDrop leviathan]].

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These are the big ones. These are the {{sea monster}}s whose size not only matches ships but dwarfs them. When these are introduced, all you'll see is an overhead shot of a small boat on top of a much larger shadow in the water -- and "small boat" ranges from fishing ship to aircraft carrier. These beasts aren't just big, they're [[TitleDrop leviathan]].
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