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11th May '15 9:30:08 PM Patachou
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[[caption-width-right:315:"Da Kini" in his youth.]]

Ludwig the Second, born Ludwig Otto Friedrich Wilhelm von Wittelsbach was king of [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavaria]] from 1863 to 1885, and the last king to rule it as an independent state.

He was famously eccentric and built many of the most beautiful castles in Bavaria, the most famous of which is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle Neuschwanstein]]. He enjoyed myths and legends and [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian opera]], which earned him the nickname "Märchenkönig" ("fairy-tale king"). However, the king's well-known eccentricity also brought him the less flattering nicknames "the crazy king" or "Mad King Ludwig".

It was largely Ludwig's patronage that allowed Creator/RichardWagner to create his famous operas detached from financial concerns.

But he is also known for his very mysterious death - he and his personal physician were found dead, floating in a lake after failing to return from a walk by the banks. There is WildMassGuessing and [[ConspiracyTheory Conspiracy Theories]] galore on how this supposedly happened.
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!! Works that feature Ludwig II of Bavaria:

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* ''Ludwig II'' (1922)
* ''Ludwig'' by Luschino Visconti (1972)
* ''Ludwig - Requiem for a Virgin King'', another 1972 film
* ''Ludwig 1881'' (1993)
* ''Ludwig der Zweite, König von Bayern'' (1993)
* ''Ludwig II: Glanz und Ende eines Königs'' ("Splendor and End of a King") (1995)

[[AC:{{Literature}}]]
* ''My Letters from Ludwig: A Novel about King Ludwig II of Bavaria''

[[AC:{{Manga}}]]
* ''Ludwig II'' by You Higuri.

[[AC:Musical]]
* ''Ludwig II''
* ''Ludwig2: The New Musical''

[[AC:VideoGames]]
* ''[[VideoGame/GabrielKnight The Beast Within: A Gabriel Knight Mystery]]''
* In ''[[Videogame/{{Civilization}} Civilization V]]'', Neuschwanstein Castle can be built as one of the world wonders of the modern era.
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[[quoteright:315:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/king-ludwig_6823.jpg]]
[[caption-width-right:315:"Da Kini" in his youth.]]

Ludwig the Second, born Ludwig Otto Friedrich Wilhelm von Wittelsbach was king of [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavaria]] from 1863 to 1885, and the last king to rule it as an independent state.

He was famously eccentric and built many of the most beautiful castles in Bavaria, the most famous of which is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle Neuschwanstein]]. He enjoyed myths and legends and [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian opera]], which earned him the nickname "Märchenkönig" ("fairy-tale king"). However, the king's well-known eccentricity also brought him the less flattering nicknames "the crazy king" or "Mad King Ludwig".

It was largely Ludwig's patronage that allowed Creator/RichardWagner to create his famous operas detached from financial concerns.

But he is also known for his very mysterious death - he and his personal physician were found dead, floating in a lake after failing to return from a walk by the banks. There is WildMassGuessing and [[ConspiracyTheory Conspiracy Theories]] galore on how this supposedly happened.
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!! Works that feature Ludwig II of Bavaria:

[[AC:{{Film}}]]
* ''Ludwig II'' (1922)
* ''Ludwig'' by Luschino Visconti (1972)
* ''Ludwig - Requiem for a Virgin King'', another 1972 film
* ''Ludwig 1881'' (1993)
* ''Ludwig der Zweite, König von Bayern'' (1993)
* ''Ludwig II: Glanz und Ende eines Königs'' ("Splendor and End of a King") (1995)

[[AC:{{Literature}}]]
* ''My Letters from Ludwig: A Novel about King Ludwig II of Bavaria''

[[AC:{{Manga}}]]
* ''Ludwig II'' by You Higuri.

[[AC:Musical]]
* ''Ludwig II''
* ''Ludwig2: The New Musical''

[[AC:VideoGames]]
* ''[[VideoGame/GabrielKnight The Beast Within: A Gabriel Knight Mystery]]''
* In ''[[Videogame/{{Civilization}} Civilization V]]'', Neuschwanstein Castle can be built as one of the world wonders of the modern era.
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1st Jun '14 3:29:55 PM jeez
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Also known for his very mysterious death - he and his personal physician were found dead, floating in a lake after failing to return from a walk by the banks. There is WildMassGuessing and [[ConspiracyTheory Conspiracy Theories]] galore on how this supposedly happened.


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But he is also known for his very mysterious death - he and his personal physician were found dead, floating in a lake after failing to return from a walk by the banks. There is WildMassGuessing and [[ConspiracyTheory Conspiracy Theories]] galore on how this supposedly happened.
1st Jun '14 3:26:28 PM jeez
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Ludwig the Second, born Ludwig Otto Friedrich Wilhelm von Wittelsbach was king of [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavaria]] from 1863 to 1885, and the last king to rule it as an independent state. He was famously eccentric and built many of the most beautiful castles in Bavaria, the most famous of which is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle Neuschwanstein]]. He enjoyed myths and legends and [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian opera]], which earned him the nickname "Märchenkönig" ("fairy-tale king"). However, the king's well-known eccentricity also brought him the less flattering nicknames "the crazy king" or "Mad King Ludwig".

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Ludwig the Second, born Ludwig Otto Friedrich Wilhelm von Wittelsbach was king of [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavaria]] from 1863 to 1885, and the last king to rule it as an independent state.

He was famously eccentric and built many of the most beautiful castles in Bavaria, the most famous of which is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle Neuschwanstein]]. He enjoyed myths and legends and [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian opera]], which earned him the nickname "Märchenkönig" ("fairy-tale king"). However, the king's well-known eccentricity also brought him the less flattering nicknames "the crazy king" or "Mad King Ludwig".
1st Jun '14 3:26:09 PM jeez
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Ludwig the Second, born Ludwig Otto Friedrich Wilhelm von Wittelsbach was king of [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavaria]] from 1863 to 1885, and the last king to rule it as an independent state. He was famously eccentric and built many of the most beautiful castles in Bavaria, the most famous of which is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle Neuschwanstein]]. He enjoyed myths and legends and [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian opera]], which earned him the nickname "Märchenkönig" ("fairy-tale king"). However, the king's well-known eccentricity also brought him the less flattering nicknames "the crazy king" or "Mad King Ludwig".

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Ludwig the Second, born Ludwig Otto Friedrich Wilhelm von Wittelsbach was king of [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavaria]] from 1863 to 1885, and the last king to rule it as an independent state. He was famously eccentric and built many of the most beautiful castles in Bavaria, the most famous of which is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle Neuschwanstein]]. He enjoyed myths and legends and [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian opera]], which earned him the nickname "Märchenkönig" ("fairy-tale king"). However, the king's well-known eccentricity also brought him the less flattering nicknames "the crazy king" or "Mad King Ludwig".
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Also known for his very mysterious death - he and his personal physician were found dead, floating in a lake after failing to return from a walk by the banks. There is WildMassGuessing and [[ConspiracyTheory Conspiracy Theories]] galore on how this supposedly happened.
10th May '14 12:44:32 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* In ''[[Videogame/{{Civilization}} Civilization V]]'', Neuschwanstein Castle is build able as one of the world wonders of the modern era.

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* In ''[[Videogame/{{Civilization}} Civilization V]]'', Neuschwanstein Castle is build able can be built as one of the world wonders of the modern era.
10th May '14 12:43:58 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* In ''[[Videogame/{{Civilization}} Civilization V]]'', Neuschwanstein Castle is build able as one of the world wonders of the modern era.
24th Feb '14 4:43:30 PM ActualScientist
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* ''[[VideoGame/GabrielKnight The Beast Within: A Gabriel Knight Mystery]]''
11th Dec '13 2:07:20 PM OldManHoOh
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!! Tropes frequently associated with King Ludwig:

* AmbiguouslyGay: There are theories.
* BornInTheWrongCentury: He built castles in the Late 1800's. Thought he was the reincarnation of Parsifal, Lohengrin, and the Last 4 Louis's of France.
* BreakTheCutie: He started out well loved and eager to be king. Dirty political dealings happen. He ended up exiled under a mental health watch and "drowned".
* TheChainsOfCommanding: He didn't like politics and he didn't like war, but it was his inheritance.
%% Trope has been cut: {{Confidant}}: Elisabeth of Austria was this to him.
* CrypticConversation: His most famous quote was "I wish to remain an eternal enigma to myself and others."
* CloudCuckooLander: As his cousin Elizabeth of Austria said: "The King was not mad; he was just an eccentric living in a world of dreams."
* EscapistCharacter: Not himself, but he liked to Cosplay as his favorite Opera heroes.
* EveryoneIsRelated: His Mom was a Prussian Princess and his cousin was Empress of Austria. The Seven Weeks War was uncomfortable for him.
* TheExile: At the end of his life, he was sent to a homely castle on an island, never to return.
* FanNickname: "Da Kini"[[note]]Pronounced (roughly) "duh keeney".[[/note]] ("[[{{Irony}} the dear little]] King").
* FantasyForbiddingFather: His father took the King's job so seriously that he worked to death.
* IKissYourHand: The only romantic relation he had with his engagement partner Sophie.
* IdealHero: What he wanted to be/Thought he was.
* IntelligenceEqualsIsolation: He found most other nobles boring, and only liked Creator/RichardWagner. After Wagner died, it he shut himself in completely.
* IntergenerationalFriendship: When they met he was 18 and Wagner was in his fifties. They were the best of friends.
* LargeAndInCharge: He was 193cm (6ft 4in) tall and also had impressive physical strength which he honed through sports.
* LonersAreFreaks: The Bavarian public did not think well of his solitary getaways.
* MadDreamer: He was the Dream King, after all.
* MiseryBuildsCharacter: His dad ordered that his children should never be fed until sated.
* MoodSwinger: Especially in his love life.
* MrImagination
* NeverGotToSayGoodbye: His last night with Wagner, before Wagner died, was all annoyances and arguments.
* NoSocialSkills
* NotGoodWithPeople: Type 1- He liked horses better.
* NotHelpingYourCase: Much political change was happening, he was building Castles.
* ThePerfectionist: Everything, Castles to Opera, had to be just so for the magic to work.
* ProperlyParanoid: Incurably Paranoid was one of the things the doctors found to exile him for. He "drowned" three days later.
* ShroudedInMyth: Some people see him this way.
* SillyWalk: He developed one later in his life, while trying to imitate [[LEtatCestMoi Louis the Fourteenth]].
* TeamSwitzerland: He would flee to Switzerland, so that he did not have to deal with his country's wars.
* TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch: After being relieved of his position, he "drowned" in Starnberg Lake, together with his personal doctor (who had previously co-conspired with the scheming statesmen). The ''Guglmänner'', a BrotherhoodOfFunnyHats and an ancient Bavarian Royalist/Loyalist Sect are the main defenders of this trope. And well yes, there are some pieces that do not fit together, making their concern maybe just a tat realistic. Just take a look at them on the ConspiracyTheories page.[[note]] Here is the whole original article: "There is a quite popular (and also quite comprehensible) theory of the "accident"/murder of ''Ludwig II of Bavaria'', who "mysteriously drowned"/was shot to death in Lake Starnberg, after being retired. By his own government. Crash Course: Ludwig and his doctor, Bernhard von Gudden (one of the conspirators; the very one who officially ''declared Ludwig to be nuts'' and ''let'' him sign his own abdication), take an afternoon stroll through the royal gardens of the Castle Berg (Schloss Berg) on the 13th of June 1886, at the banks of Lake Starnberg, where Ludwig is held captive by a group of apostate Ministers. This was the last time both men were seen alive. Only in the late evening, and after an extensive search of the grounds, Ludwig's and von Gudden's bodies were found drifting in the lake. Official sources state that both men started a fight, after Ludwig tried to flee by wading out into the lake (in a very very cold June). Well, there's something wrong with this theory; the facts and the ''coincidences'': Ludwig's and von Gudden's bodies was found in a shallow reed water, so it must have been drifting there the whole time. The problem is, it is very difficult for a nearly 2-meter tall man like Ludwig to drown in shallow water. There also wasn't any water present in Ludwig's lungs (Granted, he could have died of hypothermia instead.) Both von Gudden and Ludwig carried Pocket watches. Pocket watches work for app. another 30 seconds after placed in water. ''But'' von Gudden's watch came to a halt a whole hour after Ludwig's. Both watches could not have made contact with the lake within the same hour. If there really was a struggle between Ludwig and von Gudden, then it was hard to stay unnoticed in the promenade-like terrain. At the time, three gendarmes patrolled the royal gardens (which ran along the lake, was about 1.1 km long, and only 300 m wide as seen on [[GoogleEarth 47°57'55.86"N 11°20'58.74"E]]. The whole stretch of woodland alongside the lake are the royal gardens, the big house in the upper area is Schloss Berg). One guard patrolled the border of the gardens, one patrolled the main path, and one was actually sent after Ludwig and von Gudden eleven min. or so later, just to be extra super-safe, that nothing happened. Perhaps a clear case of TheGuardsMustBeCrazy. After Ludwig's body was found, it was laid out in one of the various boathouses by the search party. This boathouse was demolished shortly afterwards. There were dozens of witnesses on that day, either among the Castle personnel, the search parties, or other groups. Over an incredibly short period of time, this group of people dispersed; some emigrated to America, some moved away, some were [[KickedUpstairs promoted into different corners of the Earth]], some received generous gifts of money, and one of the gendarmes was found in his hut, with a very deep head wound (again, official sources talk about ''suicide''). A relative of the doctor in charge of the autopsy of Ludwig, wrote into her memoirs, that the doctor told her on his death bed, that he found two bullet entrance holes in Ludwig's back, and that he was forced to sign a document of secrecy. How reliable this source is, though, is debatable. Fact is, that the renegade politicians had a bunch of good reasons, to forcefully hinder Ludwig from escaping, if necessary also with ''death''. Ludwig indeed was, to a certain extent, insane, had a ForeignCultureFetish (ranging from French Baroque to Oriental stuff), and was a CloudCuckooLander, which enabled him to spend state funds on building ''Fairytale Castles'', like Neuschwanstein, Linderhof, and Herrenchiemsee (only later it was revealed, that UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck financed Ludwig with ''Prussian funds'', in order to ''convince'' him to join a military pact with Prussia). And he was immensely popular with his people. The first attempt to overthrow Ludwig ended with the conspirators (including von Gudden) being awaited by gendarmes and [[TorchesAndPitchforks a mob with torches and pitchforks]]. So they had to overthrow him quickly and unnoticed. So they abducted the depressive monarch from Neuschwanstein, and kept him detained in his childhood residence, Berg Castle, until an adequate successor could be found to take over his throne (Prince Regent Luitpold was chosen later on). If Ludwig would have ever gained some control over the people, to inform them of his current situation, the government itself could have been overrun in a coup' d' état by loyalists. He therefore had to be kept away from everyone, just like Napoleon on St. Helena. A more popular theory says, that Ludwig conspired with Berg Castle's head of fishing (a remaining ''loyalist'') to pick him up with a boat, and row him onto the other side of the lake, where he would be exiled into Austria by his [[KissingCousins Childhood Cousin Sweetheart]], Elizabeth (informally "Sissi"). But the plan [[GoneHorriblyWrong went horribly wrong]], as gendarmes caught up with Ludwig while he waded out into the lake to his master of fishing's boat, and shot him in the back repeatedly. The master of fishing is said to have witnessed it all. To silence him, authorities made him the mayor of the town shortly after, and gave him a gift of money (several million Euros by today's standards) And that is even factual, too. And too much of a coincidence..."]]
** He did not spend state funds on building Fairytale Castles, but the private fortune of himself and the royal Wittelsbach clan. Immediately after his death, the said castles were opened to the general public, quickly compensated for their construction cost and from 1899 to 1914 they were the richest source of profit for the royal family. [[MoneyDearBoy From this point of view, having Ludwig dead was far more profitable than keeping him alive]].[[/note]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: Politicians at the time thought this of Wagner.
* {{Ubermensch}}: He had his own ideas about this.
* WhileRomeBurns: He had a tendency to go fantasize in his castle in the country, while his nation was in various wars.
* WideEyedIdealist: When he began his reign.
* TheWoobie: He was this towards the end of his life.
11th Dec '13 7:02:35 AM Frank75
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* ''My Letters from Ludwig: A Novel about King Ludwig II of Bavaria''

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* ''My Letters from Ludwig: A Novel about King Ludwig II of Bavaria''



* EscapistCharacter: Not himself, but he liked to Cosplay as his favorite Opera heroes

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* EscapistCharacter: Not himself, but he liked to Cosplay as his favorite Opera heroesheroes.



* FanNickname: "Da Kini"[[note]]Pronounced (roughly) "duh keeney".[[/note]] ("[[{{Irony }}the dear little]] King").

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* FanNickname: "Da Kini"[[note]]Pronounced (roughly) "duh keeney".[[/note]] ("[[{{Irony }}the ("[[{{Irony}} the dear little]] King").



* IKissYourHand: The only romantic relation he had with his engagement partner Sophie
* IdealHero: What he wanted to be/Thought he was

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* IKissYourHand: The only romantic relation he had with his engagement partner Sophie
Sophie.
* IdealHero: What he wanted to be/Thought he waswas.



* LonersAreFreaks: The Bavarian public did not think well of his solitary get aways.

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* LonersAreFreaks: The Bavarian public did not think well of his solitary get aways.getaways.



* MoodSwinger: Especially in his love life

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* MoodSwinger: Especially in his love lifelife.



* NeverGotToSayGoodbye: His last night with Wagner, before Wagner died, was all annoyances and arguments

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* NeverGotToSayGoodbye: His last night with Wagner, before Wagner died, was all annoyances and argumentsarguments.



* NotGoodWithPeople: Type 1- He liked horses better
* NotHelpingYourCase: Much Political change was happening, he was building Castles.

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* NotGoodWithPeople: Type 1- He liked horses better
better.
* NotHelpingYourCase: Much Political political change was happening, he was building Castles.



* SillyWalk: He developed one later in his life, while trying to imitate Louis the Fourteenth.

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* SillyWalk: He developed one later in his life, while trying to imitate [[LEtatCestMoi Louis the Fourteenth.Fourteenth]].



* TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch: After being relieved of his position, he "drowned" in Starnberg Lake, together with his personal doctor (who had previously co-conspired with the scheming statesmen). The ''Guglmänner'', a BrotherhoodOfFunnyHats and an ancient Bavarian Royalist/Loyalist Sect are the main defenders of this trope. And well yes, there are some pieces that do not fit together, making their concern maybe just a tat realistic. Just take a look at them on the ConspiracyTheories page.[[note]] Here is the whole original article: "There is a quite popular (and also quite comprehensible) theory of the "accident"/murder of ''Ludwig II of Bavaria'', who "mysteriously drowned"/was shot to death in Lake Starnberg, after being retired. By his own government. Crash Course: Ludwig and his doctor, Bernhard von Gudden (one of the conspirators; the very one who officially ''declared Ludwig to be nuts'' and ''let'' him sign his own abdication), take an afternoon stroll through the royal gardens of the Castle Berg (Schloss Berg) on the 13th of June 1886, at the banks of Lake Starnberg, where Ludwig is held captive by a group of apostate Ministers. This was the last time both men were seen alive. Only in the late evening, and after an extensive search of the grounds, Ludwig's and von Gudden's bodies were found drifting in the lake. Official sources state that both men started a fight, after Ludwig tried to flee by wading out into the lake (in a very very cold June). Well, there's something wrong with this theory; the facts and the ''coincidences'': Ludwig's and von Gudden's bodies was found in a shallow reed water, so it must have been drifting there the whole time. The problem is, it is very difficult for a nearly 2-meter tall man like Ludwig to drown in shallow water. There also wasn't any water present in Ludwig's lungs (Granted, he could have died of hypothermia instead.) Both von Gudden and Ludwig carried Pocket watches. Pocket watches work for app. another 30 seconds after placed in water. ''But'' von Gudden's watch came to a halt a whole hour after Ludwig's. Both watches could not have made contact with the lake within the same hour. If there really was a struggle between Ludwig and von Gudden, then it was hard to stay unnoticed in the promenade-like terrain. At the time, three gendarmes patrolled the royal gardens (which ran along the lake, was about 1.1 km long, and only 300 m wide as seen on [[GoogleEarth 47°57'55.86"N 11°20'58.74"E]]. The whole stretch of woodland alongside the lake are the royal gardens, the big house in the upper area is Schloss Berg). One guard patrolled the border of the gardens, one patrolled the main path, and one was actually sent after Ludwig and von Gudden eleven min. or so later, just to be extra super-safe, that nothing happened. Perhaps a clear case of TheGuardsMustBeCrazy. After Ludwig's body was found, it was laid out in one of the various boathouses by the search party. This boathouse was demolished shortly afterwards. There were dozens of witnesses on that day, either among the Castle personnel, the search parties, or other groups. Over an incredibly short period of time, this group of people dispersed; some emigrated to America, some moved away, some were [[KickedUpstairs promoted into different corners of the earth]], some received generous gifts of money, and one of the gendarmes was found in his hut, with a very deep head wound (again, official sources talk about ''suicide''). A relative of the doctor in charge of the autopsy of Ludwig, wrote into her memoirs, that the doctor told her on his death bed, that he found two bullet entrance holes in Ludwig's back, and that he was forced to sign a document of secrecy. How reliable this source is, though, is debatable. Fact is, that the renegade politicians had a bunch of good reasons, to forcefully hinder Ludwig from escaping, if necessary also with ''death''. Ludwig indeed was, to a certain extent, insane, had a ForeignCultureFetish (ranging from French Baroque to Oriental stuff), and was a CloudCuckooLander, which enabled him to spend state funds on building ''Fairytale Castles'', like Neuschwanstein, Linderhof, and Herrenchiemsee (only later it was revealed, that UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck financed Ludwig with ''Prussian funds'', in order to ''convince'' him to join a military pact with Prussia). And he was immensely popular with his people. The first attempt to overthrow Ludwig ended with the conspirators (including von Gudden) being awaited by gendarmes and [[TorchesAndPitchforks a mob with torches and pitchforks]]. So they had to overthrow him quickly and unnoticed. So they abducted the depressive monarch from Neuschwanstein, and kept him detained in his childhood residence, Berg Castle, until an adequate successor could be found to take over his throne (Prince Regent Luitpold was chosen later on). If Ludwig would have ever gained some control over the people, to inform them of his current situation, the government itself could have been overrun in a coup' d' état by loyalists. He therefore had to be kept away from everyone, just like Napoleon on St. Helena. A more popular theory says, that Ludwig conspired with Berg Castle's head of fishing (a remaining ''loyalist'') to pick him up with a boat, and row him onto the other side of the lake, where he would be exiled into Austria by his [[KissingCousins Childhood Cousin Sweetheart]], Elizabeth (informally "Sissi"). But the plan [[GoneHorriblyWrong went horribly wrong]], as gendarmes caught up with Ludwig while he waded out into the lake to his master of fishing's boat, and shot him in the back repeatedly. The master of fishing is said to have witnessed it all. To silence him, authorities made him the mayor of the town shortly after, and gave him a gift of money (several million Euros by today's standards) And that is even factual, too. And too much of a coincidence..."]]
** He did not spend state funds on building Fairytale Castles, but the private fortune of himself and the royal Wittelsbach clan. Immediately after his death, the said castles were opened to the general public, quickly compensated for their construction cost and from 1899 to 1914 they were the richest source or profit for the royal family. [[MoneyDearBoy From this point of view, having Ludwig dead was far more profitable than keeping him alive]].[[/note]]

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* TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch: After being relieved of his position, he "drowned" in Starnberg Lake, together with his personal doctor (who had previously co-conspired with the scheming statesmen). The ''Guglmänner'', a BrotherhoodOfFunnyHats and an ancient Bavarian Royalist/Loyalist Sect are the main defenders of this trope. And well yes, there are some pieces that do not fit together, making their concern maybe just a tat realistic. Just take a look at them on the ConspiracyTheories page.[[note]] Here is the whole original article: "There is a quite popular (and also quite comprehensible) theory of the "accident"/murder of ''Ludwig II of Bavaria'', who "mysteriously drowned"/was shot to death in Lake Starnberg, after being retired. By his own government. Crash Course: Ludwig and his doctor, Bernhard von Gudden (one of the conspirators; the very one who officially ''declared Ludwig to be nuts'' and ''let'' him sign his own abdication), take an afternoon stroll through the royal gardens of the Castle Berg (Schloss Berg) on the 13th of June 1886, at the banks of Lake Starnberg, where Ludwig is held captive by a group of apostate Ministers. This was the last time both men were seen alive. Only in the late evening, and after an extensive search of the grounds, Ludwig's and von Gudden's bodies were found drifting in the lake. Official sources state that both men started a fight, after Ludwig tried to flee by wading out into the lake (in a very very cold June). Well, there's something wrong with this theory; the facts and the ''coincidences'': Ludwig's and von Gudden's bodies was found in a shallow reed water, so it must have been drifting there the whole time. The problem is, it is very difficult for a nearly 2-meter tall man like Ludwig to drown in shallow water. There also wasn't any water present in Ludwig's lungs (Granted, he could have died of hypothermia instead.) Both von Gudden and Ludwig carried Pocket watches. Pocket watches work for app. another 30 seconds after placed in water. ''But'' von Gudden's watch came to a halt a whole hour after Ludwig's. Both watches could not have made contact with the lake within the same hour. If there really was a struggle between Ludwig and von Gudden, then it was hard to stay unnoticed in the promenade-like terrain. At the time, three gendarmes patrolled the royal gardens (which ran along the lake, was about 1.1 km long, and only 300 m wide as seen on [[GoogleEarth 47°57'55.86"N 11°20'58.74"E]]. The whole stretch of woodland alongside the lake are the royal gardens, the big house in the upper area is Schloss Berg). One guard patrolled the border of the gardens, one patrolled the main path, and one was actually sent after Ludwig and von Gudden eleven min. or so later, just to be extra super-safe, that nothing happened. Perhaps a clear case of TheGuardsMustBeCrazy. After Ludwig's body was found, it was laid out in one of the various boathouses by the search party. This boathouse was demolished shortly afterwards. There were dozens of witnesses on that day, either among the Castle personnel, the search parties, or other groups. Over an incredibly short period of time, this group of people dispersed; some emigrated to America, some moved away, some were [[KickedUpstairs promoted into different corners of the earth]], Earth]], some received generous gifts of money, and one of the gendarmes was found in his hut, with a very deep head wound (again, official sources talk about ''suicide''). A relative of the doctor in charge of the autopsy of Ludwig, wrote into her memoirs, that the doctor told her on his death bed, that he found two bullet entrance holes in Ludwig's back, and that he was forced to sign a document of secrecy. How reliable this source is, though, is debatable. Fact is, that the renegade politicians had a bunch of good reasons, to forcefully hinder Ludwig from escaping, if necessary also with ''death''. Ludwig indeed was, to a certain extent, insane, had a ForeignCultureFetish (ranging from French Baroque to Oriental stuff), and was a CloudCuckooLander, which enabled him to spend state funds on building ''Fairytale Castles'', like Neuschwanstein, Linderhof, and Herrenchiemsee (only later it was revealed, that UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck financed Ludwig with ''Prussian funds'', in order to ''convince'' him to join a military pact with Prussia). And he was immensely popular with his people. The first attempt to overthrow Ludwig ended with the conspirators (including von Gudden) being awaited by gendarmes and [[TorchesAndPitchforks a mob with torches and pitchforks]]. So they had to overthrow him quickly and unnoticed. So they abducted the depressive monarch from Neuschwanstein, and kept him detained in his childhood residence, Berg Castle, until an adequate successor could be found to take over his throne (Prince Regent Luitpold was chosen later on). If Ludwig would have ever gained some control over the people, to inform them of his current situation, the government itself could have been overrun in a coup' d' état by loyalists. He therefore had to be kept away from everyone, just like Napoleon on St. Helena. A more popular theory says, that Ludwig conspired with Berg Castle's head of fishing (a remaining ''loyalist'') to pick him up with a boat, and row him onto the other side of the lake, where he would be exiled into Austria by his [[KissingCousins Childhood Cousin Sweetheart]], Elizabeth (informally "Sissi"). But the plan [[GoneHorriblyWrong went horribly wrong]], as gendarmes caught up with Ludwig while he waded out into the lake to his master of fishing's boat, and shot him in the back repeatedly. The master of fishing is said to have witnessed it all. To silence him, authorities made him the mayor of the town shortly after, and gave him a gift of money (several million Euros by today's standards) And that is even factual, too. And too much of a coincidence..."]]
** He did not spend state funds on building Fairytale Castles, but the private fortune of himself and the royal Wittelsbach clan. Immediately after his death, the said castles were opened to the general public, quickly compensated for their construction cost and from 1899 to 1914 they were the richest source or of profit for the royal family. [[MoneyDearBoy From this point of view, having Ludwig dead was far more profitable than keeping him alive]].[[/note]]



* {{Ubermensch}}: He had his own ideas about this
* WhileRomeBurns: He had a tendency to go fantasize in his castle in the country, while his nation was in various wars

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* {{Ubermensch}}: He had his own ideas about this
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* WhileRomeBurns: He had a tendency to go fantasize in his castle in the country, while his nation was in various warswars.



* TheWoobie: He was this towards the end of his life

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* TheWoobie: He was this towards the end of his lifelife.
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* FanNickname: "Da Kini"[[note]]Pronounced (roughly) "duh keeney".[[/note]] ("the King").

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* FanNickname: "Da Kini"[[note]]Pronounced (roughly) "duh keeney".[[/note]] ("the ("[[{{Irony }}the dear little]] King").
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