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4th Feb '16 9:40:42 PM dasuberkaiser
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* The main conflict of ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls'' started when King Allant XII woke up the Old One, which proceeded to unleash the Colorless Fog over the Northern Kingdom of Boletaria, summoning powerful demons in the process.
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* The main conflict of ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls'' started when King Allant XII woke up the Old One, which proceeded to unleash the Colorless Deep Fog over the Northern Kingdom of Boletaria, summoning powerful demons in the process.
27th Jan '16 4:33:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Kings of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' do this, sometimes more formally as "the Nth of his name." Since the books are set at the beginning of a new dynasty that comes from a different naming culture than the founding dynasty (Robert Baratheon was the first king of the Seven Kingdoms to be actually named Bob, not [[FaentastycLaenguage Jaerhaehaerysgargon]]), most of the kings we actually see are only the first of their name, but the previous Targaryen dynasty had racked up five Aegons, two Viseryses, two Jaeheryses, and two Aeryses. ** Balon Greyjoy is apparently the ninth of his name.
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': ** The Kings of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' do this, sometimes more formally as "the Nth of his name." Since the books are set at the beginning of a new dynasty that comes from a different naming culture than the founding dynasty (Robert Baratheon was the first king of the Seven Kingdoms to be actually named Bob, not [[FaentastycLaenguage Jaerhaehaerysgargon]]), most of the kings we actually see are only the first of their name, but the previous Targaryen dynasty had racked up five Aegons, two Viseryses, two Jaeheryses, and two Aeryses. ** Balon Greyjoy Greyjoy, whose dynasty dates back to the Targaryen conquest of the Ironborn (though they claim descent to ancient times), is apparently the ninth of his name.
2nd Jan '16 4:06:26 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** The Elves, in contrast, never reused names; there are several likely reasons for this. Yet seven of the Ruling Stewards of Gondor were named for Elves of the First Age (Denethor twice, Orodreth, Ecthelion twice, Egalmoth, Turgon); one may wonder what the Elves thought of that.
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** The Elves, in contrast, never reused names; there are several likely reasons for this.this, the most obvious being that they're immortal so it would be akward. Yet seven of the Ruling Stewards of Gondor were named for Elves of the First Age (Denethor twice, Orodreth, Ecthelion twice, Egalmoth, Turgon); one may wonder what the Elves thought of that.
18th Nov '15 10:06:09 AM Snicka
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* King Julien XIII, self-proclaimed ruler of the lemurs in ''WesternAnimation/{{Madagascar}}''. ''WesternAnimation/AllHailKingJulien'' introduces his EvilUncle, King Julien XII.
1st Nov '15 10:38:30 AM nombretomado
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** [[QueenVicky Victoria]] has also not been recycled, but considering that she was relatively recent and that there has only been one queen regnant since her, this may not mean anything. It may be permanently unused to preserve the uniqueness, but then people thought the same thing about Elizabeth until 1952 (when [[UsefulNotes/HMTheQueen the present monarch]] first learned of her accession, her personal secretary asked her, "By what name shall you be known?" expecting her to pick a different regnal name[[note]]Most likely her second middle name Mary, becoming Mary III[[/note]]; the ever-practical Queen surprised him and said, "My own, of course.")
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** [[QueenVicky Victoria]] UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria has also not been recycled, but considering that she was relatively recent and that there has only been one queen regnant since her, this may not mean anything. It may be permanently unused to preserve the uniqueness, but then people thought the same thing about Elizabeth until 1952 (when [[UsefulNotes/HMTheQueen the present monarch]] first learned of her accession, her personal secretary asked her, "By what name shall you be known?" expecting her to pick a different regnal name[[note]]Most likely her second middle name Mary, becoming Mary III[[/note]]; the ever-practical Queen surprised him and said, "My own, of course.")
2nd Oct '15 9:27:12 AM VenomLancerHae
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** It is worth noting, however, that Margrethe wasn't the heir to the throne when she was born[[note]] That honour went to her uncle[[/note]], as the line of succesion at the time was still very much an HeirClubForMen. And Margrethe naming her son Frederik also solved a long-running issue of the Christians and Frederiks being out of sync [[note]]Before her, the line went Christian IX, Frederik VIII, Christian X, Frederik IX[[/note]]. Curiously, the one time a King tried to break the synchronized line [[note]]Christian IV who named his heir Christian [[/note]], the heir died before him, and the second in line became king as Frederik III.
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** It is worth noting, however, that Margrethe wasn't the heir to the throne when she was born[[note]] That honour went to her uncle[[/note]], as the line of succesion at the time was still very much an HeirClubForMen. And Margrethe naming her son Frederik also solved a long-running issue of the Christians and Frederiks being out of sync [[note]]Before her, the line went Christian IX, Frederik VIII, Christian X, Frederik IX[[/note]]. Curiously, the one time a King tried to break the synchronized line [[note]]Christian line[[note]]Christian IV who named his heir Christian [[/note]], Christian[[/note]], the heir died before him, and the second in line became king as Frederik III.
2nd Oct '15 9:26:29 AM VenomLancerHae
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** It is worth noting, however, that Margrethe wasn't the heir to the throne when she was born[[note]]That honour went to her uncle[[/note]], as the line of succesion at the time was still very much an HeirClubForMen. And Margrethe naming her son Frederik also solved a long-running issue of the Christians and Frederiks being out of sync [[note]]Before her, the line went Christian IX, Frederik VIII, Christian X, Frederik IX[[/note]]. Curiously, the one time a King tried to break the synchronized line[[Note]]Christian IV who named his heir Christian[[/note]], the heir died before him, and the second in line became king as Frederik III.
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** It is worth noting, however, that Margrethe wasn't the heir to the throne when she was born[[note]]That born[[note]] That honour went to her uncle[[/note]], as the line of succesion at the time was still very much an HeirClubForMen. And Margrethe naming her son Frederik also solved a long-running issue of the Christians and Frederiks being out of sync [[note]]Before her, the line went Christian IX, Frederik VIII, Christian X, Frederik IX[[/note]]. Curiously, the one time a King tried to break the synchronized line[[Note]]Christian line [[note]]Christian IV who named his heir Christian[[/note]], Christian [[/note]], the heir died before him, and the second in line became king as Frederik III.
2nd Oct '15 9:23:26 AM VenomLancerHae
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deleting natter.
*** Wrong, Scotland never had a "William II". This prompted Ripley's to tout the "surprising" fact that the Prince of Orange was "William I of Ireland, William II of Scotland, William III of England, and William IV of Normandy."
1st Oct '15 2:55:44 AM aurora369
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* The Kings of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' do this, sometimes more formally as "the Nth of his name." Since the books are set at the beginning of a new dynasty that comes from a different naming culture than the founding dynasty, most of the kings we actually see are only the first of their name, but the previous Targaryen dynasty had racked up five Aegons, two Viseryses, two Jaeheryses, and two Aeryses.
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* The Kings of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' do this, sometimes more formally as "the Nth of his name." Since the books are set at the beginning of a new dynasty that comes from a different naming culture than the founding dynasty, dynasty (Robert Baratheon was the first king of the Seven Kingdoms to be actually named Bob, not [[FaentastycLaenguage Jaerhaehaerysgargon]]), most of the kings we actually see are only the first of their name, but the previous Targaryen dynasty had racked up five Aegons, two Viseryses, two Jaeheryses, and two Aeryses.
18th Jul '15 6:21:58 PM nombretomado
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* In the [[KnightFever British peerage]], a hereditary peer of the realm gets a number with his ''title'' rather than with his ''name'': thus "The Nth Duke of Somewhere". If a title lapses and is later created again, the numbering starts over again. E.g., Andrew Russell is the 15th Duke of Bedford, of the Fifth Creation (1694) of that title; the First Creation was in 1414; and before that, there were two creations of Earls of Bedford, one of which remains as a subsidiary title of the Duke of Bedford, so the Duke of Bedford is also the (N+4)th Earl of Bedford, as the Dukedom was created for the 5th Earl. (This isn't entirely academic; if the male heirs of the first Duke ever die out, the heir of a younger son of the fourth Earl will become Earl ''but not Duke'' of Bedford.) The Duke is also the 15th Marquess of Tavistock (the title was given to the 5th Earl at the same time as his dukedom); however, the person usually who ''uses'' the title and is thus ''called'' Lord Tavistock is the Duke's (eldest and thus far only) son Henry, as a courtesy title--but although Lord Tavistock ''uses'' that title, he is not actually the 15th Marquess of Tavistock (which is his father) or the 16th (which he will only become when his father dies). Now, although Andrew Russell is (among other titles) an earl, he is not the Earl Russell: that's his distant cousin John Francis Russell, 7th Earl Russell, heir of a title created for the junior line descending from [[Creator/EarlRussell John Russell]], third son of the 6th Duke. On yet another hand, the Duke is also the 19th ''Baron'' Russell, a title awarded to his ancestor in 1539 for services to TheHouseOfTudor...which is not to be confused with the title [[NamesTheSame Baron Russell]] ''of Liverpool'', which belongs to the descendants of an unrelated Victorian and Edwardian-era journalist and Liberal politician (the 2nd Baron Russell of Liverpool and the [[Creator/BertrandRussell 3rd Earl Russell]] sent a joint letter to the ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers Times]]'' in 1951 clarifying that "that neither of us is the other"). And now you know why it's critically important to include both the number and the full title when referring to British peers on first reference.
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* In the [[KnightFever British peerage]], a hereditary peer of the realm gets a number with his ''title'' rather than with his ''name'': thus "The Nth Duke of Somewhere". If a title lapses and is later created again, the numbering starts over again. E.g., Andrew Russell is the 15th Duke of Bedford, of the Fifth Creation (1694) of that title; the First Creation was in 1414; and before that, there were two creations of Earls of Bedford, one of which remains as a subsidiary title of the Duke of Bedford, so the Duke of Bedford is also the (N+4)th Earl of Bedford, as the Dukedom was created for the 5th Earl. (This isn't entirely academic; if the male heirs of the first Duke ever die out, the heir of a younger son of the fourth Earl will become Earl ''but not Duke'' of Bedford.) The Duke is also the 15th Marquess of Tavistock (the title was given to the 5th Earl at the same time as his dukedom); however, the person usually who ''uses'' the title and is thus ''called'' Lord Tavistock is the Duke's (eldest and thus far only) son Henry, as a courtesy title--but although Lord Tavistock ''uses'' that title, he is not actually the 15th Marquess of Tavistock (which is his father) or the 16th (which he will only become when his father dies). Now, although Andrew Russell is (among other titles) an earl, he is not the Earl Russell: that's his distant cousin John Francis Russell, 7th Earl Russell, heir of a title created for the junior line descending from [[Creator/EarlRussell John Russell]], third son of the 6th Duke. On yet another hand, the Duke is also the 19th ''Baron'' Russell, a title awarded to his ancestor in 1539 for services to TheHouseOfTudor...UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfTudor...which is not to be confused with the title [[NamesTheSame Baron Russell]] ''of Liverpool'', which belongs to the descendants of an unrelated Victorian and Edwardian-era journalist and Liberal politician (the 2nd Baron Russell of Liverpool and the [[Creator/BertrandRussell 3rd Earl Russell]] sent a joint letter to the ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers Times]]'' in 1951 clarifying that "that neither of us is the other"). And now you know why it's critically important to include both the number and the full title when referring to British peers on first reference.
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