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6th Dec '16 3:02:10 AM Yukianesa
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* In ''VideoGame/SouthParkTheStickOfTruth'', the Sweet Katana is the most powerful melee weapon in the game.

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* In ''VideoGame/SouthParkTheStickOfTruth'', the Sweet Katana is the most powerful melee weapon in the game.game, as it's a real battle-ready bladed weapon in a game where the setting is a giant LARP and every other combatant is fighting with 2x4s and nerf swords.
28th Nov '16 10:45:55 AM CaptainCrawdad
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->''"In Europe, swordsmiths were constantly and incrementally improving and changing their designs, experimenting with longer, shorter, more curved, less curved, more pointed, tapered and so forth, different construction methods and so forth, but no, no, in Japan they came up with perfection and then stuck with it. [[SubvertedTrope But was it perfection?"]]''

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->''"In Europe, swordsmiths were constantly and incrementally improving and changing their designs, experimenting with longer, shorter, more curved, less curved, more pointed, tapered and so forth, different construction methods and so forth, but no, no, in Japan they came up with perfection and then stuck with it. [[SubvertedTrope But was it perfection?"]]''perfection?"''
27th Nov '16 7:09:37 PM Mr_White
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->''"In Europe, swordsmiths were constantly and incrementally improving and changing their designs, experimenting with longer, shorter, more curved, less curved, more pointed, tapered and so forth, different construction methods and so forth, but no, no, in Japan they came up with perfection and then stuck with it. [[Subverted But was it perfection?"]]''

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->''"In Europe, swordsmiths were constantly and incrementally improving and changing their designs, experimenting with longer, shorter, more curved, less curved, more pointed, tapered and so forth, different construction methods and so forth, but no, no, in Japan they came up with perfection and then stuck with it. [[Subverted [[SubvertedTrope But was it perfection?"]]''
27th Nov '16 7:09:03 PM Mr_White
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->''"In Europe, swordsmiths were constantly and incrementally improving and changing their designs, experimenting with longer, shorter, more curved, less curved, more pointed, tapered and so forth, different construction methods and so forth, but no, no, in Japan they came up with perfection and then stuck with it. But was it perfection?"''

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->''"In Europe, swordsmiths were constantly and incrementally improving and changing their designs, experimenting with longer, shorter, more curved, less curved, more pointed, tapered and so forth, different construction methods and so forth, but no, no, in Japan they came up with perfection and then stuck with it. [[Subverted But was it perfection?"''perfection?"]]''
17th Nov '16 5:14:22 PM Hadjorim
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In real life, the katana isn't inherently better or worse than any of the hundreds of sword types that have been tried in various lands and time periods. In fact, despite popular culture teaching us that EveryJapaneseSwordIsAKatana, the katana is only one of many different kinds of swords--both curved and straight--that the Japanese have used throughout their history. People around the world have developed and used different swords to fit their unique situations, and while some of these are [[JackOfAllStats decent at a lot of things]], and others are really good at a few things, the inherent tension between specialization and versatility enforces a real life version of CompetitiveBalance so that no one type of sword can be the best at ''[[MasterOfAll everything]]''. The katana is not--and ''no'' other kind of sword is--a one-size-fits-all trump card in every fight.

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In real life, life there are many fans of the katana. Claims the katana isn't was a superior and more advanced sword than anything in Europe has sometimes sparked a backlash against it, with counter-claims that the katana was actually a bad design made of crap metal. In fact, the katana wasn't inherently better or worse than any of the hundreds of sword types that have been tried in various lands and time periods. In fact, despite Despite popular culture teaching us that EveryJapaneseSwordIsAKatana, the katana is only one of many different kinds of swords--both curved and straight--that the Japanese have sword used throughout their Japanese history. People around the world have developed and used different swords to fit their unique situations, and while some of these are [[JackOfAllStats decent at a lot of things]], and others are really good at a few things, the The inherent tension between specialization and versatility enforces a real life version of CompetitiveBalance so that no one type of sword can be the best at ''[[MasterOfAll everything]]''. The katana No sword, including the katana, is not--and ''no'' other kind of sword is--a a one-size-fits-all trump card in every fight.
16th Nov '16 8:02:44 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* Averted in Film/BloodAndBone. Undergoing a VillainousBreakdown, BigBad James picks up a katana and fights [[TheHero Bone]], who uses the [[SheathStrike scabbard]] of a Chinese jian to pull off an absolute CurbStompBattle.
15th Nov '16 4:52:59 PM TheBigBopper
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Of course, fiction being fiction, all of those realistic tradeoffs and even [[ArtisticLicensePhysics basic laws of physics]] can be thrown out in favor of RuleOfCool. Since the katana is well-known for being a cutting-focused sword, this property is exaggerated to make it an AbsurdlySharpBlade that can slice through any material as if it were butter. Every cut with a Katana is a CleanCut, and at first it may even look like [[YouAreAlreadyDead the cut did nothing]], before the two halves dramatically [[DiagonalCut fall apart a second later]]. Also, because it is percieved as an elite weapon that requires [[DifficultButAwesome higher-than-average skill to use well]], a character with a katana is going to be a MasterSwordsman nine times out of ten. They might demonstrate ImplausibleFencingPowers such as chopping off gun barrels or slicing swords that aren't as cool as the katana off at the hilt. In a setting where the katana is a [[ExoticWeaponSupremacy rare weapon]], it is especially likely to be proof that a character is special and formidable. On the good guy side it belongs to TheLancer or TheHero, who may be TheChosenOne, and on the enemy side a katana wielder is likely to at least be an {{Elite Mook|s}}, if not a BigBad or TheDragon.

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Of course, fiction being fiction, all of those realistic tradeoffs and even [[ArtisticLicensePhysics basic laws of physics]] can be thrown out in favor of RuleOfCool. Since the katana is well-known for being a cutting-focused sword, this property is exaggerated to make it an AbsurdlySharpBlade that can slice through any material as if it were butter. Every cut with a Katana is a CleanCut, and at first it may even look like passing through the object so effortlessly that you [[YouAreAlreadyDead the cut did nothing]], might not even realize it's been cut]], before the two halves dramatically [[DiagonalCut fall apart a second later]]. Also, because it is percieved as an elite weapon that requires [[DifficultButAwesome higher-than-average skill to use well]], a character with a katana is going to be a MasterSwordsman nine times out of ten. They might demonstrate ImplausibleFencingPowers such as chopping off gun barrels or slicing swords that aren't as cool as the katana off at the hilt. In a setting where the katana is a [[ExoticWeaponSupremacy rare weapon]], it is especially likely to be proof that a character is special and formidable. On the good guy side it belongs to TheLancer or TheHero, who may be TheChosenOne, and on the enemy side a katana wielder is likely to at least be an {{Elite Mook|s}}, if not a BigBad or TheDragon.
31st Oct '16 2:12:52 PM Owlorange1995
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* Averted in Film/BloodAndBone. Undergoing a VillainousBreakdown, BigBad James picks up a katana and fights [[TheHero Bone]], who uses the [[SheathStrike scabbard]] of a Chinese jian to pull off an absolute CurbStompBattle.
28th Oct '16 8:25:27 PM jormis29
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** The Muramasa Blade is a katana occasionally used by Wolverine (and others in related stories), and is one of the few weapons that is stated to be capable of killing him on its own, without otherwise negating his healing abilities. This weapon was used to [[spoiler:kill Sabretooth]]. Thus, while not necessarily stronger than adamantium (itself {{Unobtainium}}), it is still better. Of course, this being the Franchise/MarvelUniverse, there are many Western-style weapons that are superior to it, including Thor's Mjolnir, Namor's Trident, and of course Hulk's fist.

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** The Muramasa UsefulNotes/{{Muramasa}} Blade is a katana occasionally used by Wolverine (and others in related stories), and is one of the few weapons that is stated to be capable of killing him on its own, without otherwise negating his healing abilities. This weapon was used to [[spoiler:kill Sabretooth]]. Thus, while not necessarily stronger than adamantium (itself {{Unobtainium}}), it is still better. Of course, this being the Franchise/MarvelUniverse, there are many Western-style weapons that are superior to it, including Thor's Mjolnir, {{Mjolnir}}, Namor's Trident, and of course Hulk's fist.
23rd Oct '16 1:28:14 PM Owlorange1995
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* Invoked and subverted in WebVideo/TheLegendOfZeldaTheSageOfDarkness, where Davik presents Link with the White Sword, a katana that he claims is the strongest blade he's ever seen. Not only does the much more powerful Master Sword exist in the setting, [[spoiler: but Davik is TheMole for Ganondorf's spirit and the White Sword corrupts the souls of it's wielders, including Link.]]


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* In VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker, Ganonodorf menaces Link with a katana-like sword, and later pulls out [[DualWielding two of them]] in the final battle.
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