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13th May '16 2:00:50 AM WanderingBrowser
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'', a teenage scientist, Myron, invents and spreads Jet, a very addictive and dangerous drugs that ruins many lives and absolutely destroys the economies of several communities (such as The Den and Redding). Said drug makes him and the Mordino crime family a fortune and establishes him as the wealthiest drug baron in the land. About a year after the defeat of the Enclave, he meets his demise in The Den at the hands of... a crazed Jet addict, and his role in the creation of Jet is completely forgotten.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'', a teenage scientist, Myron, invents and spreads Jet, a very addictive and dangerous drugs drug that ruins many lives and absolutely destroys the economies of several communities (such as The Den and Redding). Said drug makes him and the Mordino crime family a fortune and establishes him as the wealthiest drug baron in the land. About a year after the defeat of the Enclave, he meets his demise in The Den at the hands of... a crazed Jet addict, and his role in the creation of Jet is completely forgotten. [[SmallNameBigEgo Not that he was particularly well-acknowledged for it before that.]] To make the punch even greater, in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', it's retconned that Myron was basically ''lying'' about making Jet and it's actually a pre-war [[SuperSerum combat drug]] like Psycho; Myron basically only managed to reinvent the formula and then passed it off as his own work.
27th Apr '16 5:11:01 PM Az_Tech341
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... so, the writers arrange for the villain to die in a manner [[LaserGuidedKarma that is completely his own fault.]] Or, at least, [[SelfDisposingVillain obviously not the hero's.]] If he dies [[BackstabBackfire right in the act of attempting to kill the hero]], this gives a particularly nice [[{{karma}} karmic zing]]. (If he attacks ''after'' being defeated and then spared by the hero, this is one of the rare circumstances where the hero can dispatch the villain personally and still come across as blameless).

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... so, the writers arrange for the villain to die in a manner [[LaserGuidedKarma [[HoistByHisOwnPetard that is completely his own fault.]] Or, at least, [[SelfDisposingVillain obviously not the hero's.]] If he dies [[BackstabBackfire right in the act of attempting to kill the hero]], this gives a particularly nice [[{{karma}} karmic zing]]. (If he attacks ''after'' being defeated and then spared by the hero, this is one of the rare circumstances where the hero can dispatch the villain personally and still come across as blameless).
27th Apr '16 10:59:26 AM Az_Tech341
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* ''Fanfic/TheSecondTry'': Chairman Keel of SEELE. Most evil man in the series. Has been manipulating things behind the scenes probably since he was a young man. Cooked up Second Impact and the plan for his version of Third Impact to essentially escape death, which he's afraid of. [[spoiler:Dies of a heart attack off-screen when the [=MP-EVAs=] start dropping for real.]]
27th Apr '16 10:48:55 AM Tron80
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* In the Mass Effect fic ''fanf/AnotherRealm'', the two antagonists of the ''Arrival'' arc are killed in suitably horrible ways after attempting to use their daughter as a political pawn, as well as trying to kill her lover, who happens to be TheHero.

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* In the Mass Effect fic ''fanf/AnotherRealm'', ''Fanfic/AnotherRealm'', the two antagonists of the ''Arrival'' arc are killed in suitably horrible ways after attempting to use their daughter as a political pawn, as well as trying to kill her lover, who happens to be TheHero.



* In the third FanFic/Gensokyo20XX story, presumably we have this with Seija, after she's attempted to get Yukari to murder the children because she saw them as a hinderance when food and fresh water had run scarce (because of her), as it's unlikely she survived on her own after having three of her limbs and a few fingers cut off and then being sent away, then again, she had it coming.

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* In the third FanFic/Gensokyo20XX ''FanFic/Gensokyo20XX'' story, presumably we have this with Seija, after she's attempted to get Yukari to murder the children because she saw them as a hinderance when food and fresh water had run scarce (because of her), as it's unlikely she survived on her own after having three of her limbs and a few fingers cut off and then being sent away, then again, she had it coming.
27th Apr '16 10:45:12 AM Tron80
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* In the Mass Effect fic ''FanFic/AnotherRealm'', the two antagonists of the ''Arrival'' arc are killed in suitably horrible ways after attempting to use their daughter as a political pawn, as well as trying to kill her lover, who happens to be TheHero.

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* In the Mass Effect fic ''FanFic/AnotherRealm'', ''fanf/AnotherRealm'', the two antagonists of the ''Arrival'' arc are killed in suitably horrible ways after attempting to use their daughter as a political pawn, as well as trying to kill her lover, who happens to be TheHero.


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* ''Fanfic/TheSecondTry'': Chairman Keel of SEELE. Most evil man in the series. Has been manipulating things behind the scenes probably since he was a young man. Cooked up Second Impact and the plan for his version of Third Impact to essentially escape death, which he's afraid of. [[spoiler:Dies of a heart attack off-screen when the [=MP-EVAs=] start dropping for real.]]
26th Apr '16 11:41:49 AM ChaoticNovelist
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... so, the writers arrange for the villain to die in a manner [[LaserGuidedKarma that is completely]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard his own fault.]] Or, at least, [[SelfDisposingVillain obviously not the hero's.]] If he dies [[BackstabBackfire right in the act of attempting to kill the hero]], this gives a particularly nice [[{{karma}} karmic zing]]. (If he attacks ''after'' being defeated and then spared by the hero, this is one of the rare circumstances where the hero can dispatch the villain personally and still come across as blameless).

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... so, the writers arrange for the villain to die in a manner [[LaserGuidedKarma that is completely]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard completely his own fault.]] Or, at least, [[SelfDisposingVillain obviously not the hero's.]] If he dies [[BackstabBackfire right in the act of attempting to kill the hero]], this gives a particularly nice [[{{karma}} karmic zing]]. (If he attacks ''after'' being defeated and then spared by the hero, this is one of the rare circumstances where the hero can dispatch the villain personally and still come across as blameless).



More common in Western markets, as a result of [[MediaWatchdog heavy censorship]] and the general reluctance among writers to feature their character (usually in a show with a younger [[{{Demographics}} Demographic]]) doing such acts as killing, especially if they're [[KidHero underage]]. Occasionally known by the older demographic as "getting one's comeuppance." Given that there is a certain charm to {{Self Disposing Villain}}y, this trope can show up in works that allow the hero to kill people; it's just that it's much more common for it to show up in situations where the hero has a no-kill policy for one reason or another.

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More It's more common in Western markets, as a result of [[MediaWatchdog heavy censorship]] and the general reluctance among writers to feature their character (usually in a show with a younger [[{{Demographics}} Demographic]]) doing such acts as killing, especially if they're [[KidHero underage]]. Occasionally known by the older demographic as "getting one's comeuppance." Given that there is a certain charm to {{Self Disposing Villain}}y, this trope can show up in works that allow the hero to kill people; it's just that it's much more common for it to show up in situations where the hero has a no-kill policy for one reason or another.



* Often, a villain will be conveniently killed off by another villain. A majority of ''Anime/SailorMoon'''s humanoid villains were killed by their superiors for [[YouHaveFailedMe failing once too often]], or by other, envious members of the same QuirkyMinibossSquad. Said superiors usually [[OneWingedAngel changed into monsters]] for the [[GrandFinale season finale]] and thus could be blown to bits.

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* Often, a villain will be conveniently killed off by another villain. A majority of ''Anime/SailorMoon'''s humanoid villains were killed by their superiors for [[YouHaveFailedMe failing once too often]], or by other, envious members of the same QuirkyMinibossSquad. Said superiors usually [[OneWingedAngel changed into monsters]] for the [[GrandFinale season finale]] and thus could be blown to bits.



* In ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', Chaka is rude, obnoxious, and such a JerkAss that even his {{Yakuza}} family dislike him. After he attempts to take over the family by selling Yukio, the rightful heir, into sexual slavery after raping her, he is beaten, had his hands cut off, and drowned - and his tormenters say he got off ''lightly''.
* Shishio Makoto of ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'' suffers a Karmic Death, succumbing to a fatal condition that does not allow him to fight for more than 15 minutes at a time without overheating (and in this case, causing his body fats and oils to catch fire), just as his opponent Kenshin is lying exhausted and helpless on the floor. This is made even more karmic due to his wealth of fire-based attacks, and the series implies that his death is almost ''literally'' karmic; "The man does not choose the age: the age chooses the man."
** Fighting on a platform surrounded by ''fire-spewing smokestacks'' (did those ''do'' anything, by the way?) probably wasn't a very wise idea either.

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* In ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', Chaka is rude, obnoxious, and such a JerkAss that even his {{Yakuza}} family dislike him. After he attempts to take over the family by selling Yukio, the rightful heir, into sexual slavery after raping her, he is beaten, had his hands cut off, and drowned - and his tormenters say he got off ''lightly''.
* Shishio Makoto of ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'' suffers a Karmic Death, succumbing to a fatal condition that does not allow him to fight for more than 15 minutes at a time without overheating (and in this case, causing his body fats and oils to catch fire), just as his opponent Kenshin is lying exhausted and helpless on the floor. This is made even more karmic due to his wealth of fire-based attacks, and the series implies that his death is almost ''literally'' karmic; "The man does not choose the age: the age chooses the man."
** Fighting on a platform surrounded by ''fire-spewing smokestacks'' (did those ''do'' anything, by the way?) probably wasn't a very wise idea either.
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** Much later in the story, Emperor Cao Rui orders Lady Mao to commit suicide after he found a new favorite consort. One chapter later, his wife comes back from the dead to haunt him, and he becomes deathly ill.

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** Much later in the story, Emperor Cao Rui orders Lady Mao to commit suicide after he found a new favorite consort. One chapter later, his wife comes back from the dead to haunt him, and he becomes deathly ill.


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*''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': [[spoiler: Dengel teaches Eric magic string sewing for a mage contest and drills him until the strength of the string satisfies him.]] This is the very skill that Eric uses to hold him in place long enough to banish him (i.e. make him a wandering spirit again).
22nd Apr '16 4:49:06 PM ZimFan89
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* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': The assassin known as [[TheDreaded the Pilgrim]] has an MO of [[RetGone retgoning]] her targets from history by killing their younger selves, which she eventually tries to apply to the Legends. In the end, she's defeated when she's stabbed by Rip's child self, which distracts her long enough for the Legends to finish her off with a CombinationAttack.
13th Apr '16 11:29:56 AM ZimFan89
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* ''Series/IZombie'': As soon as [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Vaughn du Clark]] discovered the existence of zombies, he not only blackmailed Major into killing them (for no other reason than to hide any possible connection to his energy drink company), but also began rounding up others and experimenting on them for the sake of perfecting his products, not caring when his scientists got killed, even allowing his own daughter Rita to be turned and then locking her up. This culminates in the Season 2 finale, wherein Major releases several zombies (including Rita), and leaving Vaughn to be eaten by them.
28th Mar '16 4:16:08 PM eroock
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Compare HoistByHisOwnPetard. See also CruelMercy. TheDogShotFirst usually involves this. TheKillerBecomesTheKilled is a CrimeAndPunishmentSeries variant.

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Compare HoistByHisOwnPetard.HoistByHisOwnPetard and ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine. See also CruelMercy. TheDogShotFirst usually involves this. TheKillerBecomesTheKilled is a CrimeAndPunishmentSeries variant.
28th Mar '16 4:47:30 AM Morgenthaler
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* While he didn't die, [[GloryHound Steele]] begins the movie ''WesternAnimation/{{Balto}}'' as the town hero but is rotten to the core inside while the hero of the film, Balto, is the town outcast with a heart of gold. At the end of the movie, due to Steele's refusal to let Balto have the glory that Steele craves for saving the town, Balto ends up the town hero, with the girl Steele spent the whole movie trying to get, while Steele's lies are revealed, resulting in him being a hated outcast by the town dogs. Further irony comes from the fact Steele would've gotten greater fame if he'd let Balto help him in the first place.
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