History Main / KarmicDeath

9th Sep '16 8:48:03 AM Az_Tech341
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... so, the writers arrange for the villain to die in a manner [[HoistByHisOwnPetard that is completely his own fault.]] Or, at least, [[SelfDisposingVillain obviously not the hero's.]] If he dies [[BackstabBackfire right in the act of attempting to kill the hero]], this gives a particularly nice [[{{karma}} karmic zing]]. (If he attacks ''after'' being defeated and then spared by the hero, this is one of the rare circumstances where the hero can dispatch the villain personally and still come across as blameless).

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... so, So, the writers arrange for the villain to die in a manner [[HoistByHisOwnPetard that is completely his own fault.]] Or, at least, [[SelfDisposingVillain obviously not the hero's.]] If he dies [[BackstabBackfire right in the act of attempting to kill the hero]], this gives a particularly nice [[{{karma}} karmic zing]]. (If he attacks ''after'' being defeated and then spared by the hero, this is one of the rare circumstances where the hero can dispatch the villain personally and still come across as blameless).
9th Sep '16 8:46:27 AM Az_Tech341
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** In ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'', Commander Rourke, a scumbag mercenary whose out to exploit Atlantis' resources, betrays his ''entire'' team,(including the ones who remained loyal to him) and nearly dooms Atlantis by stealing [[BadassPrincess Princess Kida]], who's bonded with the sentient and ''angry'' mother Crystal. Than one of his team destroys the balloon he was escaping on, and when he [[TakingYouWithMe tries to kill Milo anyway]], he gets graphically transmuted into crystal by Kida's power.[[AndIMustScream He's still alive long enough to get shredded by his balloon's propellor.]]

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** In ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'', Commander Rourke, a scumbag mercenary whose out to exploit Atlantis' Atlantis's resources, betrays his ''entire'' team,(including the ones members who remained loyal to him) and nearly dooms Atlantis by stealing [[BadassPrincess Princess Kida]], who's bonded with the sentient and ''angry'' mother Crystal. Than Then one of his team destroys the balloon he was escaping on, and when he [[TakingYouWithMe tries to kill Milo anyway]], he gets graphically transmuted into crystal by Kida's power.[[AndIMustScream He's still alive long enough to get shredded by his balloon's propellor.]]
9th Sep '16 8:39:23 AM Snailfish
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** In ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'', Commander Rourke, a scumbag mercenary whose out to exploit Atlantis' resources, betrays his ''entire'' team,(including the ones who remained loyal to him) and nearly dooms Atlantis by stealing [[BadassPrincess Princess Kida]], who's bonded with the sentient and ''angry'' mother Crystal. Than one of his team destroys the balloon he was escaping on, and when he [[TakingYouWithMe tries to kill Milo anyway]], he gets graphically transmuted into crystal by Kida's power.[[AndIMustScream He's still alive long enough to get shredded by his balloon's propellor.]]
6th Sep '16 4:05:00 PM Lopiny
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* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': Through the entire show, Super Kami Guru has been a bigger asshole than even the villains of the arc, to the point he decided to die ''just'' because dying at that exact moment would be a giant dick move. After it's all said and done, and he's revived but dying of old age, he decides to make one final DeathbedConfession that [[spoiler:the giant drought he had blamed on the Albino Namekians was actually his fault, thus the latter were slaughtered for nothing. Then, he gurgles one last breath as everyone is too shocked to respond... only to realize he isn't actually dying, and is fine. At least until the enraged Namekians present tear him apart so viciously even ''Vegeta'', who was watching the whole affair, is disturbed]].

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* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': Through the entire show, Super Kami Guru has been a bigger asshole than even the villains of the arc, to the point he decided to die ''just'' because dying at that exact moment would be a giant dick move. After it's all said and done, and he's revived but dying of old age, he decides to make one final DeathbedConfession that [[spoiler:the giant drought he had blamed on the Albino Namekians was actually his fault, thus the latter were slaughtered for nothing.nothing]]. Then, he gurgles one last breath as everyone is too shocked to respond... only to realize he isn't actually dying, and is fine. At least until the enraged Namekians present tear him apart so viciously even ''Vegeta'', who was watching the whole affair, is disturbed]].disturbed.
6th Sep '16 4:04:36 PM Lopiny
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* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': Through the entire show, Super Kami Guru has been a bigger asshole than even the villains of the arc, to the point he decided to die ''just'' because dying at that exact moment would be a giant dick move. After it's all said and done, and he's revived but dying of old age, he decides to make one final DeathbedConfession that [[spoiler:the giant drought he had blamed on the Albino Namekians was actually his fault, thus the latter were slaughtered for nothing. Then, he gurgles one last breath as everyone is too shocked to respond... only to realize he isn't actually dying, and is fine. At least until the enraged Namekians present tear him apart so viciously even ''Vegeta'', who was watching the whole affair, is disturbed]].
5th Sep '16 2:37:52 AM StFan
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!!Examples

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* In ''[[WebComic/AntiHeroes anti-HEROES]]'', the [[http://ah.indolents.com/comic/128 lich Finx]], [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this moments before his demise.

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* ''WebAnimation/TheAccuser'': That's what Dr. Pirot gets for helping a serial killer to survive execution.
* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': In "Heroes and Monsters", Roman tries to [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech wreck]] Ruby's idealism by telling her how stupid she is to want to be heroic given that always gets people killed. He starts beating her defenceless body while telling her she needs to do what every huntsman in history has ever done - die - and that, unlike her, he's a survivor. Unfortunately for him, his nihilistic rant is a giant "Eat me!" sign for the Monsters of Grimm that are all around them and which are attracted to negative emotions. The moment he points out how good he is at surviving, a Griffon swallows him whole.
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* In ''[[WebComic/AntiHeroes anti-HEROES]]'', ''Webcomic/AntiHeroes'', the [[http://ah.indolents.com/comic/128 lich Finx]], [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this moments before his demise.



* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': After making his FaceHeelTurn, Eridan kills Kanaya with the magic wand she made for him. That's not the karmic death. That comes when after Kanaya comes back as a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Rainbow Drinker]], she snaps said wand in half, then tears her killer a new one [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe with a]] '''chainsaw'''.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'':
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After making his FaceHeelTurn, Eridan kills Kanaya with the magic wand she made for him. That's not the karmic death. That comes when after Kanaya comes back as a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Rainbow Drinker]], she snaps said wand in half, then tears her killer a new one [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe with a]] '''chainsaw'''.



-->'''Demon Roach''': What's wrong with you?
-->'''Monster in the Darkness''': I guess I'm sad. I mean, [[IJustWantToBeLoved Tsukiko just wanted to be loved]].
-->'''Demon Roach''': So? No one cares.
-->'''Monster in the Darkness''': I know. That's why I'm sad.

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-->'''Demon Roach''': --->'''Demon-roach:''' What's wrong with you?
-->'''Monster
you?\\
'''Monster
in the Darkness''': Darkness:''' I guess I'm sad. I mean, [[IJustWantToBeLoved Tsukiko just wanted to be loved]].
-->'''Demon Roach''':
loved]].\\
'''Demon-roach:'''
So? No one cares.
-->'''Monster
cares.\\
'''Monster
in the Darkness''': Darkness:''' I know. That's why I'm sad.



* Jack O'Connor of ''SurvivalOfTheFittest'' cheats in a TenPacesAndTurn duel, only to find his opponent (Adam Dodd) had been walking down a slope (something of a DeusExMachina). Jack shooting early allows Adam time to find his aim and fatally wound Jack to win the fight ''and'' v1. This also apparently makes the fact that Adam was ''planning'' on cheating okay simply because Jack tried it earlier.
** Laeil Burbank's first kill (and, in fact, first ''scene'' in V3,) involves her torturing her helpless cousin, leaving him begging for mercy before killing. Of course, it's only fitting that her death involves a helpless Laeil getting horribly tortured and left to die, also begging for mercy.
*** It's also a rare case of a Karmic Death where one can feel [[{{Tearjerker}} sympathy]] for the victim, mostly because her cousin was a dickweed, she had something of a temporary MoralityPet in both Jimmy Trejo and Eddie Sullivan, and the guy who tortured her, JR Rizzolo, was a monster. And there's also her tragic BackStory...

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* ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'':
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Jack O'Connor of ''SurvivalOfTheFittest'' cheats in a TenPacesAndTurn duel, only to find his opponent (Adam Dodd) had been walking down a slope (something of a DeusExMachina). Jack shooting early allows Adam time to find his aim and fatally wound Jack to win the fight ''and'' v1. This also apparently makes the fact that Adam was ''planning'' on cheating okay simply because Jack tried it earlier.
** Laeil Burbank's first kill (and, in fact, first ''scene'' in V3,) V3) involves her torturing her helpless cousin, leaving him begging for mercy before killing. Of course, it's only fitting that her death involves a helpless Laeil getting horribly tortured and left to die, also begging for mercy.
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mercy. It's also a rare case of a Karmic Death where one can feel [[{{Tearjerker}} sympathy]] for the victim, mostly because her cousin was a dickweed, she had something of a temporary MoralityPet in both Jimmy Trejo and Eddie Sullivan, and the guy who tortured her, JR Rizzolo, was a monster. And there's also her tragic BackStory...



* ''WebAnimation/TheAccuser'': That's what Dr. Pirot gets for helping a serial killer to survive execution.
* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': In "Heroes and Monsters", Roman tries to [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech wreck]] Ruby's idealism by telling her how stupid she is to want to be heroic given that always gets people killed. He starts beating her defenceless body while telling her she needs to do what every huntsman in history has ever done - die - and that, unlike her, he's a survivor. Unfortunately for him, his nihilistic rant is a giant "Eat me!" sign for the Monsters of Grimm that are all around them and which are attracted to negative emotions. The moment he points out how good he is at surviving, a Griffon swallows him whole.
2nd Sep '16 11:56:35 AM erforce
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* In the film adaptation of Creator/CliveCussler's ''Film/{{Sahara}}'', the villain responsible for contaminating much of Mali's drinking water with toxic waste appears to have slipped away from punishment, until it is implied that the CIA has secretly replaced his bottled water with the very same contaminated water. (This happens in the book too.)

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* In the film adaptation of Creator/CliveCussler's ''Film/{{Sahara}}'', ''Film/{{Sahara 2005}}'', the villain responsible for contaminating much of Mali's drinking water with toxic waste appears to have slipped away from punishment, until it is implied that the CIA has secretly replaced his bottled water with the very same contaminated water. (This happens in the book too.)
24th Aug '16 6:53:14 PM BiffJr
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** Though his death isn't Karmic, what you can do to Sander Cohan after is. After killing him, you can take his picture like how he made you do so to his underlings. The trophy you get from doing so is even titled ''Irony''.
24th Aug '16 6:39:13 PM BiffJr
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* Comic/film example: ''ComicBook/SpiderMan''. Spidey, infuriated over his girlfriend's death/near-death (depending on which version you're reading/watching), has the [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Green Goblin]] on the ropes when the villain reveals that he is Spider-Man's friend's father. As the Green Goblin apologizes, he sets up his glider behind our hero. Spidey jumps out of the way at the last second and the blade on the glider's tip impales the Goblin, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard killing him]]. [[BackFromTheDead For now.]]

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* Comic/film example: ''ComicBook/SpiderMan''. Spidey, infuriated over his girlfriend's death/near-death (depending [[note]]depending on which version you're reading/watching), reading/watching [[/note]], has the [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Green Goblin]] on the ropes when the villain reveals that he is Spider-Man's friend's father. As the Green Goblin apologizes, he sets up his glider behind our hero. Spidey jumps out of the way at the last second and the blade on the glider's tip impales the Goblin, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard killing him]]. [[BackFromTheDead For now.]]



* In "Ultimate IronMan", Howard Stark makes a point of preventing Tony from killing Loni (which is a little odd, since Tony has killed dozens of people by this point, but perhaps this is different since she's helpless and it would be cold-blooded murder rather than combat), only for Loni's son Obadiah to come do the deed himself. Countlessly averted in the same series, where Tony saves Obadiah from multiple near death experiences, to Obadiah's amazement. It's a case of LaserGuidedKarma too -- Obadiah killed his mother because she was willing to leave him to die for her own gain. He also felt genuinely grateful to Tony for all of the times Tony saved his life despite everything Obadiah had done to Tony and his father.

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* In "Ultimate IronMan", Howard Stark makes a point of preventing Tony from killing Loni (which [[note]]which is a little odd, since Tony has killed dozens of people by this point, but perhaps this is different since she's helpless and it would be cold-blooded murder rather than combat), combat [[/note]], only for Loni's son Obadiah to come do the deed himself. Countlessly averted in the same series, where Tony saves Obadiah from multiple near death experiences, to Obadiah's amazement. It's a case of LaserGuidedKarma too -- Obadiah killed his mother because she was willing to leave him to die for her own gain. He also felt genuinely grateful to Tony for all of the times Tony saved his life despite everything Obadiah had done to Tony and his father.
24th Aug '16 6:55:55 AM Willbyr
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* Bertold death in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan''. The person majorly responsible for the first Titan invasion, which resulted in the majority of humanity being eaten alive by Titans, as well as directly feeding one of his own comrades to a Titan, is himself EatenAlive by a Titanfied Armin whom Berthold almost killed moments before.

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* Bertold Bertold's death in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan''. The person majorly responsible for the first Titan invasion, which resulted in the majority of humanity being eaten alive by Titans, as well as directly feeding one of his own comrades to a Titan, is himself EatenAlive by a Titanfied Armin whom Berthold almost killed moments before.
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