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25th Apr '16 1:21:05 PM eroock
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-->--Any Troper, any page

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-->--Any -->-- Any Troper, any page
14th Feb '16 10:59:42 AM hamza678
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20th Jan '16 2:36:23 PM Josef5678
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This is bad form. TV Tropes is informal enough not to demand references for every claim as TheOtherWiki does, so you don't need justification to correct a perceived error in objective fact (though explaining in the "edit reason" is considered good form). If the objective facts contradict or significantly challenge the validity of the example, the best thing to do is 1) if possible, check to make sure you're remembering it correctly, then 2) ''remove it altogether'' (again, with an "edit reason" given for good form, or even an explanation on the discussion page if the edit is drastic enough). If it's a recent edit and you're particularly sensitive about hurting the editor's feelings, explain what you think the factual error is on the discussion page and give them a chance to delete it themselves (there's a strong chance they'll never respond or even know. Make a mental note to check back later, and delete it yourself if there's no response). See Administrivia/RepairDontRespond.

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This is bad form. TV Tropes is informal enough not to demand references for every claim as TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki does, so you don't need justification to correct a perceived error in objective fact (though explaining in the "edit reason" is considered good form). If the objective facts contradict or significantly challenge the validity of the example, the best thing to do is 1) if possible, check to make sure you're remembering it correctly, then 2) ''remove it altogether'' (again, with an "edit reason" given for good form, or even an explanation on the discussion page if the edit is drastic enough). If it's a recent edit and you're particularly sensitive about hurting the editor's feelings, explain what you think the factual error is on the discussion page and give them a chance to delete it themselves (there's a strong chance they'll never respond or even know. Make a mental note to check back later, and delete it yourself if there's no response). See Administrivia/RepairDontRespond.



* If it's being argumentative or explaining how the above entry is {{not an example}} then just delete it. Examples are only useful when most people who watch the show in question can at least agree that it uses the trope. If it has a point, you can probably delete the entry that it's responding to as well.

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* If it's being argumentative or explaining how the above entry is {{not an example}} example}}, then just delete it. Examples are only useful when most people who watch the show in question can at least agree that it uses the trope. If it has a point, you can probably delete the entry that it's responding to as well.
27th Dec '15 2:08:43 PM Berrenta
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# The justification is that ''some'' kind of rationalization is provided in-story. This is based on a misunderstanding of {{justified trope}} by the TVTropes definition: It's not a "good trope", it's a trope that flows naturally and inevitably from the original premise of the story. A story fact that is invented and introduced to explain an otherwise-implausible trope is a [[HandWave handwave]], not a {{justified trope}} (many handwaves are used to excellent effect; many justified tropes wind up as {{DarthWiki/Wallbanger}}s - "good" has nothing to do with it).

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# The justification is that ''some'' kind of rationalization is provided in-story. This is based on a misunderstanding of {{justified trope}} by the TVTropes definition: It's not a "good trope", it's a trope that flows naturally and inevitably from the original premise of the story. A story fact that is invented and introduced to explain an otherwise-implausible trope is a [[HandWave handwave]], not a {{justified trope}} (many handwaves are used to excellent effect; many justified tropes wind up as {{DarthWiki/Wallbanger}}s wallbangers - "good" has nothing to do with it).
17th Jul '15 4:26:22 AM VVK
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# The justification is not so [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome compelling]] that it warrants breaking up the flow and structure of the article for an extensive info-dump of boring details, or worse, a [[Administrivia/ConversationInTheMainPage debate between editors]]. Don't bore the reader. If it's truly a justified trope by the TV Tropes definition, make your explanation ''brief'' and ''not argumentative''. If it would take paragraphs to explain or would contradict the previous editor as a matter of subjective opinion, don't add the explanation.

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# The justification is not so [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome compelling]] compelling that it warrants breaking up the flow and structure of the article for an extensive info-dump of boring details, or worse, a [[Administrivia/ConversationInTheMainPage debate between editors]]. Don't bore the reader. If it's truly a justified trope by the TV Tropes definition, make your explanation ''brief'' and ''not argumentative''. If it would take paragraphs to explain or would contradict the previous editor as a matter of subjective opinion, don't add the explanation.
18th May '15 12:18:09 PM Silverblade2
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->''"[[{{Catchphrase}} To be fair...]]"''

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->''"[[{{Catchphrase}} To ->''"To be fair...]]"''"''
1st Jan '15 1:56:32 PM FromtheWordsofBR
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'''Justifying edits are bad. Do not make justifying edits.'''

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'''Justifying '''STOP! Justifying edits are bad. Do not make justifying edits.'''
31st Aug '14 8:48:11 AM TokoWH
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Well, I'll put a stop to that! Time to hit that edit button, send in the [[Administrivia/ExampleIndentationInTropeLists second bullet point]] and let the site readership know that [[WordCruft actually, don't forget that, to be fair, what really happened is]]...

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Well, I'll put a stop to that! Time to hit that edit button, send in the [[Administrivia/ExampleIndentationInTropeLists second bullet point]] and let the site readership know that [[WordCruft actually, don't forget that, to be fair, it's entirely possible that, what really happened is]]...
3rd Aug '14 7:23:25 AM TokoWH
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Justifying edits are bad. Do not make justifying edits.

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Justifying '''Justifying edits are bad. Do not make justifying edits.
edits.'''
5th May '14 3:06:21 PM PPPSSC
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This is bad form. TV Tropes is informal enough not to demand references for every claim as TheOtherWiki does, so you don't need justification to correct a perceived error in objective fact (though explaining in the "edit reason" is considered good form). If the objective facts contradict or significantly challenge the validity of the example, the best thing to do is 1) if possible, check to make sure you're remembering it correctly, then 2) ''remove it altogether'' (again, with a "edit reason" given for good form, or even an explanation on the discussion page if the edit is drastic enough). If it's a recent edit and you're particularly sensitive about hurting the editor's feelings, explain what you think the factual error is on the discussion page and give them a chance to delete it themselves (there's a strong chance they'll never respond or even know. Make a mental note to check back later, and delete it yourself if there's no response). See Administrivia/RepairDontRespond.

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This is bad form. TV Tropes is informal enough not to demand references for every claim as TheOtherWiki does, so you don't need justification to correct a perceived error in objective fact (though explaining in the "edit reason" is considered good form). If the objective facts contradict or significantly challenge the validity of the example, the best thing to do is 1) if possible, check to make sure you're remembering it correctly, then 2) ''remove it altogether'' (again, with a an "edit reason" given for good form, or even an explanation on the discussion page if the edit is drastic enough). If it's a recent edit and you're particularly sensitive about hurting the editor's feelings, explain what you think the factual error is on the discussion page and give them a chance to delete it themselves (there's a strong chance they'll never respond or even know. Make a mental note to check back later, and delete it yourself if there's no response). See Administrivia/RepairDontRespond.
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