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27th Jul '17 6:31:33 AM LordInsane
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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', [[MeaningfulName Gentleman]] [[GentlemanThief Jim Stacy]], leader of the Thieves Guild, offers a set of quests in this vein known as the "Bal Molagmer" quests, named after an ancient order of thieves who operated in Morrowind with this as their modus operanti. The quests involve practicing [[KarmicThief Karmic Thievery]] on the wealthy/corrupt, and then returning/gifting what you stole to the rightful owners and/or those more deserving.

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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', [[MeaningfulName Gentleman]] [[GentlemanThief Jim Stacy]], leader of the Thieves Guild, offers a set of quests in this vein known as the "Bal Molagmer" quests, named after an ancient order of thieves who operated in Morrowind with this as their modus operanti. The quests involve practicing [[KarmicThief Karmic Thievery]] on the wealthy/corrupt, and then returning/gifting what you stole to the rightful owners and/or those more deserving. This serves two purposes -- it is a good thing to do, and it is an excellent propaganda move (both for being known to do good things and by invoking ancient Dunmer traditions in a way that contrasts with their native Camonna Tong rivals, thus making the Thieves' Guild seem less foreign).
30th May '17 9:27:20 AM rafi
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** The motivation for Fantomius, a GentlemanThief who Paperinik is a sort-of LegacyCharacter to (his equipment is based on Fantomius' designs, updated from the roaring 20s and he has access to Fantomius' old {{Elaborate Underground Base}}s). This trait is more marked in Danish stories: Italian Paperinik stories, including the one where Paperinik debuted and first mentioned Fantomius, make clear that Fantomius stole from the riches only out of a personal vendetta (as they called him a good for nothing just because of his British nationality, much like Donal dDuck became Paperinik due having enough of being called called a lazy good for nothing in spite of all his efforts), and as much as he'd give to charity any cash he stole he usually grabbed jewels and other rare and valuable things.

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** The motivation for Fantomius, a GentlemanThief who Paperinik is a sort-of LegacyCharacter to (his equipment is based on Fantomius' designs, updated from the roaring 20s and he has access to Fantomius' old {{Elaborate Underground Base}}s). This trait is more marked in Danish stories: Italian Paperinik stories, including the one where Paperinik debuted and first mentioned Fantomius, make clear that Fantomius stole from the riches only out of a personal vendetta (as they called him a good for nothing just because of his British nationality, much like Donal dDuck Donald Duck became Paperinik due having enough of being called called a lazy good for nothing in spite of all his efforts), and as much as he'd give to charity any cash he stole he usually grabbed jewels and other rare and valuable things.
30th May '17 9:26:57 AM rafi
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* ''ComicBook/PaperinikNewAdventures'':
** The motivation for Fantomius, a GentlemanThief who Paperinik is a sort-of LegacyCharacter to (his equipment is based on Fantomius' designs, updated from the roaring 20s and he has access to Fantomius' old {{Elaborate Underground Base}}s). This trait is more marked in Danish stories: Italian Paperinik stories, including the one where Paperinik debuted and first mentioned Fantomius, make clear that Fantomius stole from the riches only out of a personal vendetta (as they called him a good for nothing just because of his British nationality, much like DonaldDuck became Paperinik due having enough of being called called a lazy good for nothing in spite of all his efforts), and as much as he'd give to charity any cash he stole he usually grabbed jewels and other rare and valuable things.

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* ''ComicBook/PaperinikNewAdventures'':
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** The motivation for Fantomius, a GentlemanThief who Paperinik is a sort-of LegacyCharacter to (his equipment is based on Fantomius' designs, updated from the roaring 20s and he has access to Fantomius' old {{Elaborate Underground Base}}s). This trait is more marked in Danish stories: Italian Paperinik stories, including the one where Paperinik debuted and first mentioned Fantomius, make clear that Fantomius stole from the riches only out of a personal vendetta (as they called him a good for nothing just because of his British nationality, much like DonaldDuck Donal dDuck became Paperinik due having enough of being called called a lazy good for nothing in spite of all his efforts), and as much as he'd give to charity any cash he stole he usually grabbed jewels and other rare and valuable things.
22nd May '17 10:04:55 PM ectostar
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In essence, a thief or other kind of criminal, usually of the [[GentlemanThief gentleman kind]], who targets people who [[PayEvilUntoEvil probably deserve it]] in order to help the downtrodden. RobinHood, is, of course, the TropeNamer and in his original stories not a strong example, robbing from the government and returning what was unrighteously taxed. [[RealitySubtext Sociologists have noted that these characters tend to enjoy their greatest popularity during times of economic recession or (especially) depression.]]

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In essence, a thief or other kind of criminal, usually of the [[GentlemanThief gentleman kind]], who targets people who [[PayEvilUntoEvil probably deserve it]] in order to help the downtrodden. RobinHood, is, of course, the TropeNamer and in his original stories not a strong example, robbing from the government and returning what was unrighteously taxed. [[RealitySubtext Sociologists have noted that these characters tend to enjoy their greatest popularity during times of economic recession or (especially) depression.]]
depression]].



* RobinHood, [[TropeNamer obviously,]] though notably, this wasn't originally a trait of his. Rather, [[{{Flanderization}} it became more and more a part of his personality as time went on]].

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* RobinHood, [[TropeNamer obviously,]] obviously]], though notably, this wasn't originally a trait of his. Rather, [[{{Flanderization}} it became more and more a part of his personality as time went on]].



* Subverted in ''Literature/TheReynardCycle'' in that, while Reynard tends to rob from the rich, he rarely gives to the poor. When he does so, his motivation for doing so is usually to win [[VillainWithGoodPublicity the hearts and minds of the common people.]] His success in maintaining this image is why he is loved by the poor and generally despised by the nobility.

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* Subverted in ''Literature/TheReynardCycle'' in that, while Reynard tends to rob from the rich, he rarely gives to the poor. When he does so, his motivation for doing so is usually to win [[VillainWithGoodPublicity the hearts and minds of the common people.]] people]]. His success in maintaining this image is why he is loved by the poor and generally despised by the nobility.



* Kay Faraday (self-proclaimed 'Second Yatagarasu' and HighlyVisibleNinja) in ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'' refers to the Yatagarasu as a "modern-day Robin Hood". The original Yatagarasu stole documents revealing corrupt dealings and sent them on to the media to be exposed. While Kay is flamboyant and dramatic about her work, the real Yatagarasu is [[spoiler: dead, evil, and mostly concerned with finding Faraday's murderer rather than showing off. [[CollectiveIdentity Yes, at the same time.]]]]

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* Kay Faraday (self-proclaimed 'Second Yatagarasu' and HighlyVisibleNinja) in ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'' refers to the Yatagarasu as a "modern-day Robin Hood". The original Yatagarasu stole documents revealing corrupt dealings and sent them on to the media to be exposed. While Kay is flamboyant and dramatic about her work, the real Yatagarasu is [[spoiler: dead, evil, and mostly concerned with finding Faraday's murderer rather than showing off. [[CollectiveIdentity Yes, at the same time.]]]]time]].]]



-->'''Bloo:''' No no no! [[JustLikeRobinHood We're like Robin Hood.]] Stealing from the rich, giving to the needy.

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-->'''Bloo:''' No no no! [[JustLikeRobinHood We're like Robin Hood.]] Hood]]. Stealing from the rich, giving to the needy.



* Spoofed in ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre''. Grandpapi tells Manny and Frida about a legendary ''bandito'' called Ruben Hood, who stole from the rich...and just that. When Manny asks whether or not Ruben gave to the poor, Grandpapi just stares at him in [[EvilCannotComprehendGood confusion.]]

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* Spoofed in ''WesternAnimation/ElTigre''. Grandpapi tells Manny and Frida about a legendary ''bandito'' called Ruben Hood, who stole from the rich...and just that. When Manny asks whether or not Ruben gave to the poor, Grandpapi just stares at him in [[EvilCannotComprehendGood confusion.]]confusion]].



* Socialists and communist governments take it a step further, destroy the rich and spread their among the poor, although in practice [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis they tend to keep a significant amount of wealth and power for themselves.]]

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* Socialists and communist governments take it a step further, destroy the rich and spread their among the poor, although in practice [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis they tend to keep a significant amount of wealth and power for themselves.]]themselves]].
9th May '17 7:09:28 AM nighttrainfm
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-->'''Bloo:''' No, ''we're'' the needy. We need that dough! Hehe, get it? [[AccidentalPun knead dough?]]

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-->'''Bloo:''' No, ''we're'' the needy. We need that dough! Hehe, get it? [[AccidentalPun knead Knead dough?]]
20th Apr '17 6:49:30 AM BeerBaron
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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', Gentleman Jim Stacy, leader of the Thieves Guild, offers a set of quests in this vein known as the "Bal Malagmer" quests after an ancient order of thieves who operated in Morrowind with this as their modus operanti.
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' has the Gray Fox (Not [[Franchise/MetalGear that one]]), the leader of the thieves guild. The beggars are his [[ParanoiaFuel spies]], are under protection by the guild, and it is implied that much of the guild's wealth is shared with them.
** Subverted in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', where the Thieves Guild are more like an actual crime syndicate due to having fallen on hard times (well, and just not having that kind of leaders -- the Thieves' Guild weren't particularly Robin Hood-y in ''Daggerfall'', either). They're even close allies of the [[MurderInc Dark]] [[ReligionOfEvil Brotherhood]]. [[spoiler: Completing the Thieves Guild campaign will reveal this is due to the Guild's JerkAss leader, who's both secretly stealing from the entire organization, and also pissed off the local deity who backs them. This led to the Guild falling on such hard times that by the time you join them they've been reduced to Flim-flam schemes and loan-sharking, and causing them to act like a crime syndicate. At the end of the storyline you kill the old Guildmaster, patch things up with the Goddess, and restore the Guild to its former glory, moving it much closer to this trope.]]

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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', Gentleman [[MeaningfulName Gentleman]] [[GentlemanThief Jim Stacy, Stacy]], leader of the Thieves Guild, offers a set of quests in this vein known as the "Bal Malagmer" quests Molagmer" quests, named after an ancient order of thieves who operated in Morrowind with this as their modus operanti.
operanti. The quests involve practicing [[KarmicThief Karmic Thievery]] on the wealthy/corrupt, and then returning/gifting what you stole to the rightful owners and/or those more deserving.
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' has the Gray Fox (Not [[Franchise/MetalGear that one]]), Fox, the leader of the thieves guild. Thieves Guild. The beggars [[BeneathSuspicion beggars]] are his [[ParanoiaFuel spies]], are under protection by the guild, Guild, and it is implied that much of the guild's Guild's wealth is shared with them.
** Subverted in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', where the Thieves Guild are more like an actual crime syndicate due to having fallen on hard times (well, and just not having that kind of leaders -- the Thieves' Guild weren't particularly Robin Hood-y in ''Daggerfall'', either). They're even close allies of the [[MurderInc Dark]] [[ReligionOfEvil Brotherhood]]. [[spoiler: Completing the Thieves Guild campaign will reveal this is due to the Guild's JerkAss leader, who's both secretly stealing from the entire organization, and also pissed off the local deity [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] who backs them. This led to the Guild falling on such hard times that by the time you join them they've been reduced to Flim-flam schemes and loan-sharking, and causing them to act like a crime syndicate. At the end of the storyline you kill the old Guildmaster, patch things up with the Goddess, and restore the Guild to its former glory, moving it much closer to this trope.]]
10th Apr '17 8:46:47 AM LondonKdS
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** Deconstructed in the late short story "The Spanish Cow" in which Simon comes close to seducing and stealing from an unattractive, lower-class wealthy woman purely because he doesn't like her, and only realises at the last minute that he was about to do something completely cruel and evil to an innocent person because he thought she wasn't cool and sexy enough to deserve her lifestyle.

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** Deconstructed in the late short story "The Spanish Cow" Cow", in which Simon comes close to seducing and stealing from an unattractive, lower-class wealthy woman purely because he doesn't like her, and only realises at the last minute that he was about to do something completely cruel and evil to an innocent person out of social and intellectual snobbery, because he thought she wasn't cool and sexy enough to deserve her lifestyle.
10th Apr '17 8:45:41 AM LondonKdS
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** Deconstructed in the late short story "The Spanish Cow" in which Simon comes close to seducing and stealing from an unattractive, lower-class wealthy woman purely because he doesn't like her, and only realises at the last minute that he was about to do something completely cruel and evil to an innocent person because he thought she wasn't cool and sexy enough to deserve her lifestyle.
9th Apr '17 5:26:27 PM nombretomado
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* Thor from ''SaintSeiya'', before becoming one of the Ansgard Saints.

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* Thor from ''SaintSeiya'', ''Manga/SaintSeiya'', before becoming one of the Ansgard Saints.
2nd Apr '17 12:40:56 PM DustSnitch
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-->'''Joy:''' Earl, this is not about the law. It's about right and wrong, and isn't that what your list is about, rights and wrongs? Doing unto others all that [[RobinHood Robin Hood]]/Franchise/{{Batman}}/[[{{Jesus}} Jesus]] stuff?

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-->'''Joy:''' Earl, this is not about the law. It's about right and wrong, and isn't that what your list is about, rights and wrongs? Doing unto others all that [[RobinHood Robin Hood]]/Franchise/{{Batman}}/[[{{Jesus}} Hood]]/Franchise/{{Batman}}/[[UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} Jesus]] stuff?
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