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10th Aug '16 2:21:23 AM NNinja
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* A villainous example occurs in the second to last episode of the first season of ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', ''The Gilded Hero''. In that episode, Sugou/Oberon spams his GameMaster status by pinning Kirito onto the ground with gravity magic, and then chains up Asuna, and as Kirito tries to get up, he kicks him back onto the ground and impales him with Kirito's own sword, and then decides to change the pain absorber, which once it drops bellow level 3, starts affecting a user's body in the real world. Given that he's in full control of the situation and knows how it works, he could've just turned it off all the way to level 0 for Kirito, basically, to ensuring Kirito will die in both the digital ''and'' real worlds, effectively, washing Kirito out of Sugou/Oberon's hair for good. Sugou/Oberon could get away with raping Asuna in front of Kirito, and since Kirito was stabbed in the back, and through his spine, a critical area, couple that with seeing Asuna in pain while being raped, and Kirito dies not only in-game, but also in real life. If that happened, Sugou would've been able to avoid criminal charges since he plans to wipe Asuna's memory of this incident and of her knowing Kirito anyway, and he could get away with forcing her into marrying him, and thus continue experimenting on the other 299 former SAO players with no one to stop him and be in control of the human soul. Instead, being a cocky dastard, he decides to change it to level 8, insisting on gradually decreasing it after he's done assaulting Asuna. Because Kirito isn't completely dead, he gets help from Kayaba's spirit and is lent his system administrator status to take away Sugou's control of the system, including the pain absorber, to which Kirito sets it to level 0 for Oberon, resulting in Sugou suffering some pretty bad phantom injuries in real life, and losing vision in his right eye, and eventually, being arrested in the real world.
3rd Aug '16 4:13:00 PM TheNohrianDarkKnight
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* The second half of ''Film/BackToTheFuturePartII'' could've been avoided if Marty had taken the [=DeLorean's=] keys out of the ignition and close and lock the doors before wandering off to look at the Hilldale suburb. This would've prevented Biff from taking it undetected and traveling back to 1955 to give his younger self the sports almanac which he uses to bet on horse races where he gets lots of money, which he then later becomes rich and powerful, corrupts Hill Valley, murders Marty's dad, George [=McFly=], forced Lorraine into marrying him, and had Doc sent to an insane assylum.
28th Jul '16 7:46:07 AM TheKaizerreich
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* The plot of ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' could have been solved very quickly, although the cast can be forgiven for not realizing it under the circumstances. [[spoiler:It takes six full rounds of them slaughtering each other before they realize, halfway through the seventh round, that none of it would happen if they'd just trust each other for once. When they start the eighth story with this information and work together from the start, it becomes a CurbStompBattle against the true enemies.]]

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* The plot of ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' could have been solved very quickly, although the cast can be forgiven for not realizing it under the circumstances. [[spoiler:It takes six full rounds of them slaughtering each other before they realize, halfway through the seventh round, that none of it would happen if they'd just trust each other for once. When they start the eighth story with this information and work together from the start, it becomes a CurbStompBattle against the true enemies. It ''also'' doesn't help that there's a vicious HatePlague at work, which makes cooperation quite a bit harder.]]
21st Jul '16 3:57:34 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* {{Inverted}} in ''Manga/SoulHunter''. Being the {{genre savvy}} guy that he is, Taikobo decides the best course of action in one of the first chapters is to take the fight directly to Dakki. Just find a way in the palace and catch her when he guard is down, get the happy ending. The problem is that Dakki is {{dangerously genre savvy}} and also a {{manipulative bastard}}. She knows Taikobo's every move before he makes it and nearly kills him in a pit of snakes.

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* {{Inverted}} in ''Manga/SoulHunter''. Being the {{genre savvy}} guy that he is, Taikobo decides the best course of action in one of the first chapters is to take the fight directly to Dakki. Just find a way in the palace and catch her when he guard is down, get the happy ending. The problem is that Dakki is {{dangerously genre savvy}} savvy and also a {{manipulative bastard}}. She knows Taikobo's every move before he makes it and nearly kills him in a pit of snakes.



** In another terrible ''Power Rangers'' rip-off, ''Series/TattooedTeenageAlienFightersFromBeverlyHills'', the bumbling sidekick of the BigBad gets a chance to be in charge while the villain is away, and implements an ingenious GenreSavvy tactic of sending down a monster, recalling it when it was close to death, and sending a new one, repeated until the heroes were worn down and defeated. On the verge of success, the BigBad returns from his trip and proves that he had a firm grip on the VillainBall by demanding that things be returned to the proven-to-fail "one monster each week" strategy.

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** In another terrible ''Power Rangers'' rip-off, ''Series/TattooedTeenageAlienFightersFromBeverlyHills'', the bumbling sidekick of the BigBad gets a chance to be in charge while the villain is away, and implements an ingenious GenreSavvy tactic of sending down a monster, recalling it when it was close to death, and sending a new one, repeated until the heroes were worn down and defeated. On the verge of success, the BigBad returns from his trip and proves that he had a firm grip on the VillainBall by demanding that things be returned to the proven-to-fail "one monster each week" strategy.



* In ''Series/{{Beetleborgs}}'', a new villain showed off his {{Genre Savvy}}ness by waiting until the heroes' base rose out of the ground and then having the monster-planes bomb it while the vehicles were still inside. Though the heroes eventually [[MerchandiseDriven got new, cooler, vehicles]], it was a devastating blow. It also made you wonder why absolutely no-one's ever thought of that before. Which is really strange, because in the rest of the many-parts episode, this monster didn't use {{Genre Savvy}}ness. On the contrary, at this point he destroyed all the other weapons playing by the rules, just to show he could do it. And when the heroes get new weapons and match him, he won't be GenreSavvy anymore.

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* In ''Series/{{Beetleborgs}}'', a new villain showed off his {{Genre Savvy}}ness by waiting waited until the heroes' base rose out of the ground and then having the monster-planes bomb it while the vehicles were still inside. Though the heroes eventually [[MerchandiseDriven got new, cooler, vehicles]], it was a devastating blow. It also made you wonder why absolutely no-one's ever thought of that before. Which is really strange, because in the rest of the many-parts episode, this monster didn't use {{Genre Savvy}}ness.savviness. On the contrary, at this point he destroyed all the other weapons playing by the rules, just to show he could do it. And when the heroes get new weapons and match him, he won't be GenreSavvy anymore.



* ''Series/DennisTheMenace''. Mr. Wilson's life would be much better if the Mitchells would move away. The worst part is that the man is GenreSavvy enough to know this, and his warnings to the other characters are tragically ignored. An episode of the animated series dealt with this. Dennis breaks Mr. Wilson's window and he boards it up, and tells Dennis to just ''pretend'' that he has moved away from now on, in an attempt to get some peace. A pair of movers show up, having gotten lost while on their way to move an entire house, and ask Dennis if he knows anyone who is moving. [[LiteralMinded Dennis points them toward Mr. Wilson's house]], and they take the boarded up window as a sign that he is right. They lift the entire home onto a truck and take it away, with Mr. Wilson trying desperately to stop them. Eventually his house ends up in a nice coastal area, and he realizes that not only is his new location better, but ''no Dennis''. But the movers figure out their mistake and [[StatusQuoIsGod take the house back over his protests]].

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* ''Series/DennisTheMenace''. Mr. Wilson's life would be much better if the Mitchells would move away. The worst part is that the man is GenreSavvy enough to know knows this, and his warnings to the other characters are tragically ignored. An episode of the animated series dealt with this. Dennis breaks Mr. Wilson's window and he boards it up, and tells Dennis to just ''pretend'' that he has moved away from now on, in an attempt to get some peace. A pair of movers show up, having gotten lost while on their way to move an entire house, and ask Dennis if he knows anyone who is moving. [[LiteralMinded Dennis points them toward Mr. Wilson's house]], and they take the boarded up window as a sign that he is right. They lift the entire home onto a truck and take it away, with Mr. Wilson trying desperately to stop them. Eventually his house ends up in a nice coastal area, and he realizes that not only is his new location better, but ''no Dennis''. But the movers figure out their mistake and [[StatusQuoIsGod take the house back over his protests]].
20th Jul '16 6:10:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* Villainous example: In ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'', it takes the villains until the second-to-last non-postgame cut scene in the series to realize that three adults taking on KidHero Lan in real life is a better idea than taking on [[ShowyInvincibleHero MegaMan]] in {{cyberspace}}. Only [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy BubbleMan]] uses a dangerous machine with no access ports. This prevents anyone from getting their [[{{Mon}} Navis]] in and hacking the machine to stop. [=BubbleMan=]'s plan failed because defeating him also shuts down the machines. But the clear point remains, the ONLY way the majority of the cast can combat the bad guys is by sending Navis into their machines, so if the villains just used machines with no access ports, or used more real world obstacles, the heroes would be powerless to stop them. Lan isn't even armed, defeating him in person is literally as easy as walking over and subduing a school kid.

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* Villainous example: In ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'', it takes the villains until the second-to-last non-postgame cut scene in the series to realize that three adults taking on KidHero Lan in real life is a better idea than taking on [[ShowyInvincibleHero MegaMan]] in {{cyberspace}}. Only [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy BubbleMan]] [=BubbleMan=] uses a dangerous machine with no access ports. This prevents anyone from getting their [[{{Mon}} Navis]] in and hacking the machine to stop. [=BubbleMan=]'s plan failed because defeating him also shuts down the machines. But the clear point remains, the ONLY way the majority of the cast can combat the bad guys is by sending Navis into their machines, so if the villains just used machines with no access ports, or used more real world obstacles, the heroes would be powerless to stop them. Lan isn't even armed, defeating him in person is literally as easy as walking over and subduing a school kid.
15th Jul '16 11:56:32 AM TheNohrianDarkKnight
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* A villainous example occurs in the second to last episode of the first season of ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', ''The Gilded Hero''. In that episode, Sugou/Oberon spams his GameMaster status by pinning Kirito onto the ground with gravity magic, and then chains up Asuna, and as Kirito tries to get up, he kicks him back onto the ground and impales him with Kirito's own sword, and then decides to change the pain absorber, which once it drops bellow level 3, starts affecting a user's body in the real world. Given that he's in full control of the situation and knows how it works, he could've just turned it off all the way to level 0 for Kirito, basically, to ensuring Kirito will die in both the digital ''and'' real worlds, effectively, washing Kirito out of Sugou/Oberon's hair for good. Sugou/Oberon could get away with raping Asuna in front of Kirito, and since Kirito was stabbed in the back, and through his spine, a critical area, couple that with seeing Asuna in pain while being raped, and Kirito dies not only in-game, but also in real life. If that happened, Sugou would've been able to avoid criminal charges since he plans to wipe Asuna's memory of this incident and of her knowing Kirito anyway, and he could get away with forcing her into marrying him, and thus continue experimenting on the other 299 former SAO players with no one to stop him and be in control of the human soul. Instead, being a cocky dastard, he decides to change it to level 8, insisting on gradually decreasing it after he's done assaulting Asuna. Because Kirito isn't completely dead, he gets help from Kayaba's spirit and is lent his system administrator status to take away Sugou's control of the system, including the pain absorber, to which Kirito sets it to level 0 for Oberon, resulting in Sugou suffering some pretty bad phantom injuries in real life, and losing vision in his right eye, and eventually, being arrested in the real world.
15th Jul '16 11:44:04 AM TheNohrianDarkKnight
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* ''Franchise/StarWars Episode II: Film/AttackOfTheClones'' offers a notorious example. During the Battle of Geonosis, Obi-Wan and Anakin spot Dooku escaping, and Anakin orders the gunship's pilot to shoot him down, but he replies that they are out of rockets. Anakin doesn't even think to order the pilot to use the gunship's laser cannons and laser beam turrets to blast Dooku away. If they did, Dooku would've been killed off, he wouldn't have escaped, the Clone War doesn't have to happen, problem solved. Even if the war still begins, the Confederacy probably would've fallen quickly without Dooku's leadership.
** [[WordOfSaintPaul Pablo Hidalgo]], whose job it basically was to explain away stuff like this, stated that the gunship's lasers were strictly air-to-surface, and flying high enough to target Dooku with them would make them easy targets for the enemy's heavy fire. A word of this in the film would have been nice, however.
** Episode I isn't much better since (as shown in Episode IV) the easy way to get off Tatooine is to hire a transport, potentially even a smuggler, rather than an overly convoluted plot to bet everything on a pod race. Especially since all they needed to do was send one person to warn everyone about the Trade Federation and then everyone else could have been picked up at their leisure.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars A few moments in the ''Film/StarWars'' Saga have moments that could've solved some problems rather easily, but the characters still make some rather idiotic decisions.
** ''Episode I: Film/ThePhantomMenace'' has Qui-gon and Queen Amidala are forced to land the Naboo ship on Tatooine, since the hyperdrive is disabled, and requires a new one. Watto refuses to take Republic Credits as currency and claims that nobody else has a Naboo ship hyperdrive. As shown in
Episode IV, the easy way to get off Tatooine is to hire a transport, potentially even a smuggler, rather than an overly convoluted plot to bet everything on a pod race. Especially since all they needed to do was send one person to warn everyone about the Trade Federation and then everyone else could have been picked up at their leisure.
** ''Episode
II: Film/AttackOfTheClones'' offers a notorious example. During the Battle of Geonosis, Obi-Wan and Anakin spot Dooku escaping, and Anakin orders the gunship's pilot to shoot him down, but he replies that they are out of rockets. Anakin doesn't even think to order the pilot to use the gunship's laser cannons and laser beam turrets to blast Dooku away. If they did, Dooku would've been killed off, he wouldn't have escaped, the Clone War doesn't have to happen, problem solved. Even if the war still begins, the Confederacy probably would've fallen quickly without Dooku's leadership.
** *** [[WordOfSaintPaul Pablo Hidalgo]], whose job it basically was to explain away stuff like this, stated that the gunship's lasers were strictly air-to-surface, and flying high enough to target Dooku with them would make them easy targets for the enemy's heavy fire. A word of this in the film would have been nice, however.
** Episode I isn't much better since (as shown in Episode IV) the easy way to get off Tatooine is to hire a transport, potentially even a smuggler, rather than an overly convoluted plot to bet everything on a pod race. Especially since all they needed to do was send one person to warn everyone about the Trade Federation and then everyone else could have been picked up at their leisure.
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** A villainous example occurs in the latest ''Star Wars'' episode, ''Film/TheForceAwakens''. Phasma gets caught by Finn, Han and Chewie at Starkiller Base, in an effort to lower the shields around the planet, so that the Resistance X-Wings can fly in, and destroy it. As the movie's ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' parody pointed out, she could've pulled off an ISurrenderSuckers moment and not lower the shields at all, and instead alert Starkiller Base to the presence of the intruders, thus preventing the dropping of the shields and ensuring the First Order's victory since the X-Wings wouldn't be able to fly into the planet and take it out.

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** A Another villainous example occurs in the latest ''Star Wars'' episode, ''Film/TheForceAwakens''. Stormtrooper Captain Phasma gets caught by Finn, Han and Chewie at Starkiller Base, in an effort to lower the shields around the planet, so that the Resistance X-Wings can fly in, and destroy it. As the movie's ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' parody pointed out, she could've pulled off an ISurrenderSuckers moment and not lower the shields at all, and instead alert Starkiller Base to the presence of the intruders, thus preventing the dropping of the shields and ensuring the First Order's victory since the X-Wings wouldn't be able to fly into the planet and take it out.


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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', like the movies, has some moments of the characters being doofuses when it comes to solving problems.
** In the second episode of Season 2, ''Cargo of Doom'', Cad Bane captures Ahsoka, and uses her as levarage to get Anakin to open a holocron he stole in the previous episode. Anakin could've pulled an ISurrenderSuckers moment on Cad Bane and pretend he's going to unlock the holocron, but not do it all, and instead use the Force to grab both his lightsaber and Ahsoka's while Bane is distracted by the holocron being levitated by the Force, kick Bane's butt, and save Ahsoka, AND prevent the holocron information from being unlocked, instead of playing it all real and opening it for him like he does in the actual episode before he attempts the lightsaber thing, which enables Bane to start kidnapping Force-sensitive infants in the next episode.
** In "Voyage of Temptation", when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick, who kidnapped the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine, he demands that Merrick surrender and release the duchess. Sen. Merrick then shows that he holds a remote detonator, and has set explosives on the ship. One press of a button, and everybody on it is blown to kingdom come. Obi-Wan never thinks of using the Force to pull the detonator out of Merrick's hand, which could've made saving Satine a LOT easier, and just follows Merrick (who still holds the detonator ''and'' is still holding Satine hostage) back to one of the droid deployers, where he plans to get off the Coronet, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship! And even Satine steps on Merrick's corn to get free from him and steals his blaster, when Merrick taunts them about the cons of either Obi-Wan or Satine killing him will tarnish their reputations, Obi-Wan still doesn't think of using the Force to pull the remote out of his hand.
12th Jul '16 1:36:15 PM penguinist
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** Or that he could have just signed the form for a qualifying life event. As FilmBrain pointed out, yeah, grieving is one thing, but you had an entire year to take care of this very simple but very important matter.
5th Jul '16 7:44:16 PM brtd
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* ''JessicaJones'' has a ''very'' cruel subversion. The villain of the first season, Kilgrave, can force anyone to do his will except Jessica who is rendered immune after he controls her in a traumatizing event. This means Jessica could simply kill him rather easily at any point in the series putting an end to his powers. The reason she doesn't is his control forced a college student abducted by him to murder her parents, and Jessica is quite intent on proving her innocence which she believes can't be done with Kilgrave dead, despite the body count he racks up killing others throughout the series. In the end [[spoiler: the student ends up killing herself in a bit of a HeroicSacrifice specifically so that Jessica no longer has any reason not to kill Kilgrave after seeing all the suffering he causes.]]
27th Jun '16 2:20:01 PM TheNohrianDarkKnight
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* The fourth season of ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''[=SuperS=]'', has a new group of mysterious enemies show up to assault the people of Tokyo. All their monsters are circus themed, and at the same time, a gigantic, sinister-looking circus tent just shows up in the middle of town without explanation. It's bigger than any building in the city and sticks out like a sore thumb. The Sailor Senshi are among the first to notice it. And then they just go about their lives, refusing to put two and two together and often wondering aloud where all these new enemies could possibly be coming from. Averted in the manga where the Senshi are on to the Dead Moon Circus from almost the beginning of the Arc.
** In the second season, ''R'', because of the recent attacks by the Makai Tree Aliens, Luna ends up having to restore the memories of Usagi and the other Inner Guardians to combat this new threat. When it comes to trying to restore the memories of Mamorou (aka Tuxedo Mask), however, Luna never thinks of doing the same thing to him.

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* The fourth season of ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/SailorMoon'', ''[=SuperS=]'', has a new group of mysterious enemies show up to assault the people of Tokyo. All their monsters are circus themed, and at the same time, a gigantic, sinister-looking circus tent just shows up in the middle of town without explanation. It's bigger than any building in the city and sticks out like a sore thumb. The Sailor Senshi are among the first to notice it. And then they just go about their lives, refusing to put two and two together and often wondering aloud where all these new enemies could possibly be coming from. Averted in the manga where the Senshi are on to the Dead Moon Circus from almost the beginning of the Arc.
** In the second season, ''R'', because of the recent attacks by the Makai Tree Aliens, Luna ends up having to restore the memories of Usagi and the other Inner Guardians to combat this new threat. When it comes to trying to restore the memories of Mamorou (aka Tuxedo Mask), however, Luna never thinks of doing the same thing to him. Even if it wasn't possible due to Mamorou originally being from the Earth Kingdom instead of the Moon Kingdom in Usagi's previous life as Princess Serenity, it could've been worth a try at least.



-->'''Picard''': All right, I know exactly where I want to go. To the mountaintop on Veridian 3 just before Soren destroyed the star.
-->'''Critic''': What? Why there?? Why don't you go to when you first picked him up or when you decided to go out there in the first place? F**k, why don't you go back and save your brother's FAMILY while you're at it?! What is this s**t about being put back in the moment you ''already'' know you lost in?! What are you, a moron?! Did everybody's brains just get beamed out of their heads?!
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