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23rd Aug '16 10:23:11 AM Discar
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* Weaponised in ''Series/TheMiddleMan'' by the heroes.
-->'''The Middleman:''' I confront him, get him off on the monologue, you go around...
-->'''Wendy Watson:''' ...switch off the machine while he's distracted?
-->'''The Middleman:''' Dang skippy.

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* ''Series/TheMiddleMan'':
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Weaponised in ''Series/TheMiddleMan'' by the heroes.
-->'''The --->'''The Middleman:''' I confront him, get him off on the monologue, you go around...
-->'''Wendy
around...\\
'''Wendy
Watson:''' ...switch off the machine while he's distracted?
-->'''The
distracted?\\
'''The
Middleman:''' Dang skippy.skippy.
** Subverted when the villain doesn't monologue. He's not intentionally defying the trope, he just doesn't do it. The heroes are completely flummoxed by this revelation, and Wendy accidentally gets thrown into an alternate dimension because they had no backup plan.
21st Aug '16 11:40:40 AM nombretomado
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* From an episode of ''{{Duckman}}'': "They never just kill ya. There's always a lecture."

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* From an episode of ''{{Duckman}}'': ''WesternAnimation/{{Duckman}}'': "They never just kill ya. There's always a lecture."
20th Aug '16 4:16:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* Once more, ''BasicInstructions'' gives us simple step by step guidelines to this practice, including how to deal with the rude assassin when he's already escaped your trap and has a gun pointed at Kitty.

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* Once more, ''BasicInstructions'' ''Webcomic/BasicInstructions'' gives us simple step by step guidelines to this practice, including how to deal with the rude assassin when he's already escaped your trap and has a gun pointed at Kitty.
12th Aug '16 12:20:34 AM PaulA
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* DoubleSubverted in LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga The Vor Game]]''. The BigBad decides to reveal her plan to Miles before sending him away to attend to some business for her. Some time later, Miles decides that she couldn't possibly have told him her actual plan for the moment and uses this (and the [[XanatosSpeedChess two]] other plans she's thought of, told to people, and discarded) to deduce her current plan. Then he decided that plan is too obvious and goes with the second option. Yes, it dissolves in a GambitPileup. How did you guess?

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* DoubleSubverted in LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga The Vor Game]]''.Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/TheVorGame''. The BigBad decides to reveal her plan to Miles before sending him away to attend to some business for her. Some time later, Miles decides that she couldn't possibly have told him her actual plan for the moment and uses this (and the [[XanatosSpeedChess two]] other plans she's thought of, told to people, and discarded) to deduce her current plan. Then he decided that plan is too obvious and goes with the second option. Yes, it dissolves in a GambitPileup. How did you guess?
11th Aug '16 5:58:48 AM WillBGood
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** Nicely Lampshaded the episode "Utopia", where [[spoiler:the newly regenerated Master]] says to The Doctor: "Why don't we stop and have a nice little chat while I tell you all my plans and you can work out a way to stop me, I ''don't'' think!"

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** Nicely Lampshaded the episode "Utopia", where [[spoiler:the newly regenerated Master]] says to The Doctor: "Why don't we stop and have a nice little chat while I tell you all my plans and you can work out a way to stop me, I ''don't'' think!"[[{{NOT}} I]] ''[[{{NOT}} don't]]'' [[{{NOT}} think!]]"
11th Aug '16 5:56:17 AM WillBGood
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* In ''Film/{{Robocop 1987}}'', OCP executive [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Dick Jones]] tells [=RoboCop=], "I had to kill Bob Morton because he made a mistake. Now, it's time to erase that mistake.", before summoning the ED-209 and a SWAT team to destroy him. What makes this particularly stupid on his part is he knows that [=RoboCop=] is capable of recording everything he says (he even bitches out Boddicker for telling [=RoboCop=] about his involvement in the first place). This bites him back hard in the end, when [=Robocop=] reports to the OCP board of executives [[EngineeredPublicConfession to replay the statement]].

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* In ''Film/{{Robocop 1987}}'', ''Film/Robocop1987'', OCP executive [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Dick Jones]] tells [=RoboCop=], "I had to kill Bob Morton because he made a mistake. Now, it's time to erase that mistake.", before summoning the ED-209 and a SWAT team to destroy him. What makes this particularly stupid on his part is he knows that [=RoboCop=] is capable of recording everything he says (he even bitches out Boddicker for telling [=RoboCop=] about his involvement in the first place). This bites him back hard in the end, when [=Robocop=] reports to the OCP board of executives [[EngineeredPublicConfession to replay the statement]].
29th Jul '16 7:53:33 AM Tom1969ca
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* Averted in the final episode of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica}}'' ("Daybreak"):
-->'''Cylon''': You should know... your ship's been destroyed. You can't go back that way.
-->'''Athena''': Yeah, well, that's not the plan.
-->'''Starbuck''': Could we ''please'' not tell her the plan?
21st Jul '16 3:55:26 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** There's also an example where Ed shows GenreSavvy. After Father reveals several of his plans, Ed comments something "since you've told us your plans, I assume you intended to kill us".

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** There's also an example where Ed shows GenreSavvy.some savvy. After Father reveals several of his plans, Ed comments something "since you've told us your plans, I assume you intended to kill us".



* LampshadeHanging in the film ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', where villains' penchant to elaborately explain their nefarious plans is dubbed "monologuing" by the heroes. Syndrome falls for it anyway--which is entirely plausible; he wants Mr. Incredible to ''know'' how great he is--[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy but he quickly catches himself]].

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* LampshadeHanging in the film ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', where villains' penchant to elaborately explain their nefarious plans is dubbed "monologuing" by the heroes. Syndrome falls for it anyway--which is entirely plausible; he wants Mr. Incredible to ''know'' how great he is--[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy but is--but he quickly catches himself]].himself.



* ''Film/LastActionHero'': "Gentlemen! Since you are about to die anyway, I may as well tell you the entire plot.". It's a GenreSavvy nod to the trope, which has been lampshaded in the film twice by then as a 'Classic Movie Mistake'; the second in an IronicEcho.

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* ''Film/LastActionHero'': "Gentlemen! Since you are about to die anyway, I may as well tell you the entire plot.". It's a GenreSavvy nod to the trope, which has been lampshaded in the film twice by then as a 'Classic Movie Mistake'; the second in an IronicEcho.



--->''[[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy blasts Stark]]]''

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--->''[[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy blasts Stark]]]''--->''[blasts Stark]''



* Subverted in ''Literature/DragonBones'': Ward reveals that once, on a hunting trip where he was alone with his father, his father got drunk and bragged about having killed Ward's grandfather (his father) with an arrow to the back, which was disguised as a hunting accident. Ward was GenreSavvy enough to pretend to not have understood it, but still suspects that this incident might have something to do with his father's excessive physical violence towards him.

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* Subverted in ''Literature/DragonBones'': Ward reveals that once, on a hunting trip where he was alone with his father, his father got drunk and bragged about having killed Ward's grandfather (his father) with an arrow to the back, which was disguised as a hunting accident. Ward was GenreSavvy savvy enough to pretend to not have understood it, but still suspects that this incident might have something to do with his father's excessive physical violence towards him.



* During the fifth ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' book, Harry tries to bait Nicodemus into doing this, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy to no avail]]. Later, he remarks to Susan that he must've read the EvilOverlordList.

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* During the fifth ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' book, Harry tries to bait Nicodemus into doing this, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy to no avail]].avail. Later, he remarks to Susan that he must've read the EvilOverlordList.



* Deliberately lampshaded (along with much else) in Creator/JohnMFord's ''Literature/HowMuchForJustThePlanet''. The (phony) villain's {{Card Carrying Villain}}y prompts a running commentary from the GenreSavvy Aperokei ("A man of your taste would never kill anyone before the last reel"), receiving the pleased response "There's the fellow! I knew a man of your experience had to have seen a few Republic serials."

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* Deliberately lampshaded (along with much else) in Creator/JohnMFord's ''Literature/HowMuchForJustThePlanet''. The (phony) villain's {{Card Carrying Villain}}y prompts a running commentary from the GenreSavvy Aperokei ("A man of your taste would never kill anyone before the last reel"), receiving the pleased response "There's the fellow! I knew a man of your experience had to have seen a few Republic serials."



* Most of the villains in ''Literature/{{Relativity}}'' are GenreSavvy enough to avoid this, but one villain, Rasmas, plays it straight and to the hilt. When he captures the heroes, they try to keep him talking to buy themselves time to escape, but ''they don't need to'' because he's so desperate to brag about how brilliant his plan is.

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* Most of the villains in ''Literature/{{Relativity}}'' are GenreSavvy enough to avoid this, but one villain, Rasmas, plays it straight and to the hilt. When he captures the heroes, they try to keep him talking to buy themselves time to escape, but ''they don't need to'' because he's so desperate to brag about how brilliant his plan is.



** Nicely Lampshaded the episode "Utopia", where [[spoiler:the newly regenerated Master]] says to The Doctor: "Why don't we stop and have a nice little chat while I tell you all my plans and you can work out a way to stop me, I ''[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy don't]]'' think!"

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** Nicely Lampshaded the episode "Utopia", where [[spoiler:the newly regenerated Master]] says to The Doctor: "Why don't we stop and have a nice little chat while I tell you all my plans and you can work out a way to stop me, I ''[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy don't]]'' ''don't'' think!"



* In ''Loyalty'', one of the later HoratioHornblower TV films, Hornblower and his men taken prisoner after a [[TheMole traitor]] on their ship hands them over to the French. Hornblower is invited to [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine dinner]], where the traitor reveals that he is neither the only traitor nor even the biggest traitor in Admiral Pellew's squadron. Hornblower notes that it would be cruel to send him to his death without even telling him who the traitor is. Of course, [[spoiler: TheMole is DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and simply agrees that it would be cruel, before [[SubvertedTrope sending Hornblower back to his cell.]]]]

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* In ''Loyalty'', one of the later HoratioHornblower TV films, Hornblower and his men taken prisoner after a [[TheMole traitor]] on their ship hands them over to the French. Hornblower is invited to [[NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine dinner]], where the traitor reveals that he is neither the only traitor nor even the biggest traitor in Admiral Pellew's squadron. Hornblower notes that it would be cruel to send him to his death without even telling him who the traitor is. Of course, [[spoiler: TheMole is DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and simply agrees that it would be cruel, before [[SubvertedTrope sending Hornblower back to his cell.]]]]



* Weaponised in ''Series/TheMiddleMan'' by the GenreSavvy heroes.

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* Weaponised in ''Series/TheMiddleMan'' by the GenreSavvy heroes.



* ''Series/TheAvengers''. In "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Station" the GenreSavvy villain handcuffs Steed to a pipe so he can explain his EvilPlan with the help of a model train set.

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* ''Series/TheAvengers''. In "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Station" the GenreSavvy villain handcuffs Steed to a pipe so he can explain his EvilPlan with the help of a model train set.



** Similarly defied in ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII''. BigBad Irenicus is also too GenreSavvy to fall for that old trick. If you try to make him do it he flatly responds, "No, you warrant no villain's exposition from me."

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** Similarly defied in ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII''. BigBad Irenicus is also too GenreSavvy savvy to fall for that old trick. If you try to make him do it he flatly responds, "No, you warrant no villain's exposition from me."



-->'''[[GenreSavvy Manny]]:''' Is this where you tell me all about your secret plan, Hector? How you stole Double N tickets from innocent souls, pretended to sell them but secretly hoarded them all to yourself in a desperate attempt to get out of the Land of the Dead?
-->'''[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Hector]]:''' No. [=*turns around and shoots Manny with a sproutella dart*=]

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-->'''[[GenreSavvy Manny]]:''' -->'''Manny:''' Is this where you tell me all about your secret plan, Hector? How you stole Double N tickets from innocent souls, pretended to sell them but secretly hoarded them all to yourself in a desperate attempt to get out of the Land of the Dead?
-->'''[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Hector]]:''' -->'''Hector:''' No. [=*turns around and shoots Manny with a sproutella dart*=]



* Averted in ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'', with [[TookALevelInBadass Tucker]] backed up on the edge of a temple with nowhere to go and [[BigBad C.T.]] pointing a gun at him. Tucker asks who sent him here. [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy C.T. says he'll never know.]]

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* Averted in ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'', with [[TookALevelInBadass Tucker]] backed up on the edge of a temple with nowhere to go and [[BigBad C.T.]] pointing a gun at him. Tucker asks who sent him here. [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy C.T. says he'll never know.]]



* [[http://www.adventurers-comic.com/d/0205.html In this strip]] of ''Webcomic/{{Adventurers}}'' Khrima's GenreBlind stumbling right into this trope is {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d by the GenreSavvy Karn.

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* [[http://www.adventurers-comic.com/d/0205.html In this strip]] of ''Webcomic/{{Adventurers}}'' Khrima's GenreBlind stumbling right into this trope is {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d by the GenreSavvy Karn.



** [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy And no, he won't be repeating it now that the scrambler's off.]]

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** [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy And no, he won't be repeating it now that the scrambler's off.]]



* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand'': Zurg tries to be GenreSavvy by [[EvilGloating gloating]] without giving Buzz any specific information he could use to foil his EvilPlan.

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* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand'': Zurg tries to be GenreSavvy by [[EvilGloating gloating]] without giving Buzz any specific information he could use to foil his EvilPlan.
20th Jul '16 6:10:37 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the most recent arc of ''Manga/KatekyoHitmanReborn'' [[spoiler: Daemon Spade invokes and promptly subverts this trope when confessing to his status as TheManBehindTheMan to a kidnapped and seriously freaked out Chrome Dokuro. The confession is coupled with several requests to pull a FaceHeelTurn, and when she refuses to switch allegiances he simply decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize]] her and order that she not leave his side, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy pretty much guaranteeing that his plans won't be derailed by telling her]].]]

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* In the most recent arc of ''Manga/KatekyoHitmanReborn'' [[spoiler: Daemon Spade invokes and promptly subverts this trope when confessing to his status as TheManBehindTheMan to a kidnapped and seriously freaked out Chrome Dokuro. The confession is coupled with several requests to pull a FaceHeelTurn, and when she refuses to switch allegiances he simply decides to [[HypnotizeThePrincess hypnotize]] her and order that she not leave his side, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy pretty much guaranteeing that his plans won't be derailed by telling her]].her.]]
10th Jul '16 4:31:23 PM nombretomado
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* At the end of ''BrokenSaints'', BigBad [[spoiler:Lear Dunham]] spells out, in detail, his motives and the origins of his big plan to the heroes. [[spoiler:The whole point of him telling them (and of their involvement in the plot at all) was so they would be inspired by his vision and join him as his chief apostles.]]

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* At the end of ''BrokenSaints'', ''WebAnimation/BrokenSaints'', BigBad [[spoiler:Lear Dunham]] spells out, in detail, his motives and the origins of his big plan to the heroes. [[spoiler:The whole point of him telling them (and of their involvement in the plot at all) was so they would be inspired by his vision and join him as his chief apostles.]]
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