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23rd Jan '16 6:08:23 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** Not very well fleshed out in the movies, but [[WordOfGod the]] [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse fluff]] explains Anakin's motives as him being a [[KnightTemplar Knight Templar]]. He's tired of people dying, the war, sees himself as ''the'' hero (since he's been told he is TheChosenOne since childhood and thus can do no wrong) and is stupidly loyal to the Republic. All that makes him childlishly easy to manipulate by Palpatine. Combined with the corrosive effects of [[TheDarkSide the dark side]] it makes baffling lapses of judgement come easy to him. ** Kylo Ren from ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' murders without remorse and mind-rapes the hero Rey, but he's unstable, a bit psychotic, desperate to live up to the memory of Darth Vader and scared he might have too much of the Light in him. In short, Kylo comes off as a rather pathetic figure who tries too hard to be evil. He solves his problem by [[Moral Event Horizon crossing the ultimate horizon]]: [[spoiler:he kills his own father, '''Han Solo''']].
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*** Not very well fleshed out in the movies, but [[WordOfGod the]] [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse fluff]] explains Anakin's motives as him being a [[KnightTemplar Knight Templar]].KnightTemplar. He's tired of people dying, the war, sees himself as ''the'' hero (since he's been told he is TheChosenOne since childhood and thus can do no wrong) and is stupidly loyal to the Republic. All that makes him childlishly easy to manipulate by Palpatine. Combined with the corrosive effects of [[TheDarkSide the dark side]] TheDarkSide it makes baffling lapses of judgement come easy to him. ** Kylo Ren from ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' murders without remorse and mind-rapes the hero Rey, but he's unstable, a bit psychotic, desperate to live up to the memory of Darth Vader and scared he might have too much of the Light in him. In short, Kylo comes off as a rather pathetic figure who tries too hard to be evil. He solves his problem by [[Moral Event Horizon [[MoralEventHorizon crossing the ultimate horizon]]: [[spoiler:he kills his own father, '''Han Solo''']].
23rd Jan '16 5:48:49 PM LongLiveHumour
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*** Not very well fleshed out in the movies, but [[WordOfGod the]] [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse fluff]] explains Anakin's motives as him being a [[KnightTemplar Knight Templar]]. He's tired of people dying, the war, sees himself as ''the'' hero (since he's been told he is TheChosenOne since childhood and thus can do no wrong) and is stupidly loyal to the Republic. All that makes him childlishly easy to manipulate by Palpatine. Combined with the corrosive effects of [[TheDarkSide the dark side]] it makes baffling lapses of judgement come easy to him.
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*** Not very well fleshed out in the movies, but [[WordOfGod the]] [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse fluff]] explains Anakin's motives as him being a [[KnightTemplar Knight Templar]]. He's tired of people dying, the war, sees himself as ''the'' hero (since he's been told he is TheChosenOne since childhood and thus can do no wrong) and is stupidly loyal to the Republic. All that makes him childlishly easy to manipulate by Palpatine. Combined with the corrosive effects of [[TheDarkSide the dark side]] it makes baffling lapses of judgement come easy to him.him. ** Kylo Ren from ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' murders without remorse and mind-rapes the hero Rey, but he's unstable, a bit psychotic, desperate to live up to the memory of Darth Vader and scared he might have too much of the Light in him. In short, Kylo comes off as a rather pathetic figure who tries too hard to be evil. He solves his problem by [[Moral Event Horizon crossing the ultimate horizon]]: [[spoiler:he kills his own father, '''Han Solo''']].
22nd Jan '16 4:50:01 PM bravo104
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** He does, however, [[spoiler: start a redemptive arc after being twisted into Ramsay Bolton's "Reek"; at the end of the book, he finally decides to help Jeyne Poole escape the tyranny of the Boltons.]]
30th Dec '15 12:40:14 AM Anddrix
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** And for that matter, Doctor Destiny's origin story in "[[Recap/{{JusticeLeagueS2E5And6OnlyADream}} Only a Dream]]". At first, he seems to be a fairly decent guy whose big mistake was simply getting hired as a guard by SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor, and the story starts raising questions about WhatMeasureIsAMook and the hypocrisy of the henchmen going to prison and having their lives ruined while the villains themselves keep getting away scott-free. But once he gains superpowers himself, his RoaringRampageOfRevenge throws him right off the slippery slope, and into territory that even Lex never touched, with lemming-like gusto.
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** And for that matter, Doctor Destiny's origin story in "[[Recap/{{JusticeLeagueS2E5And6OnlyADream}} Only a Dream]]". At first, he seems to be a fairly decent guy whose big mistake was simply getting hired as a guard by SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor, ComicBook/LexLuthor, and the story starts raising questions about WhatMeasureIsAMook and the hypocrisy of the henchmen going to prison and having their lives ruined while the villains themselves keep getting away scott-free. But once he gains superpowers himself, his RoaringRampageOfRevenge throws him right off the slippery slope, and into territory that even Lex never touched, with lemming-like gusto.
5th Dec '15 3:59:31 PM Gabriel94
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** This is Castiel's entire character arc during Season 6. Desperate to defeat Raphael in the civil war in Heaven, Castiel begins performing many morally questionable acts, not the least of which is [[spoiler: allying with Crowley]], and rapidly skipping several shades of grey. This ultimately culminates in the season finale, where he [[spoiler:jumps right into VillainProtagonist territory when he absorbs all the soul energy of Purgatory and [[AGodAmI declares himself the new God]]]].
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** This is Castiel's entire character arc during Season 6. Desperate to defeat Raphael in the civil war in Heaven, Castiel begins performing many morally questionable acts, not the least of which is [[spoiler: allying with Crowley]], and rapidly skipping several shades of grey. This ultimately culminates in the season finale, where he [[spoiler:jumps right into VillainProtagonist territory when he absorbs all the soul energy souls of Purgatory and [[AGodAmI declares himself the new God]]]].
5th Dec '15 11:46:28 AM DeisTheAlcano
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* ''Franchise/GodOfWar'': As shown in the [[VideoGame/GodOfWar first game]] and [[VideoGame/GodOfWarAscension its]] [[VideoGame/GodOfWarChainsOfOlympus prequels]], Kratos was always a SociopathicHero at his worst and an AntiHero at his best, but from the [[VideoGame/GodOfWarII second game onwards]], his [[RevengeBeforeReason obsession with revenge]] against the Olympians causes him to devolve into a straight-up VillainProtagonist. In the [[VideoGame/GodOfWarIII third game]], he [[spoiler: indiscriminately kills the gods and essentially brings about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt just for his revenge]].
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* ''Franchise/GodOfWar'': The ''VideoGame/GodOfWarSeries'': As shown in the [[VideoGame/GodOfWar first game]] and [[VideoGame/GodOfWarAscension its]] [[VideoGame/GodOfWarChainsOfOlympus prequels]], Kratos was always a SociopathicHero at his worst and an AntiHero at his best, but from the [[VideoGame/GodOfWarII second game onwards]], his [[RevengeBeforeReason obsession with revenge]] against the Olympians causes him to devolve into a straight-up VillainProtagonist. In the [[VideoGame/GodOfWarIII third game]], he [[spoiler: indiscriminately [[spoiler:indiscriminately kills the gods and essentially brings about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt just for his revenge]].
12th Nov '15 9:43:31 PM Tuckerscreator
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* ''VideoGame/CallofDutyAdvancedWarfare'': Irons is a firm believer that HobbesWasRight, and plans [[spoiler: to unite the world under Atlas after toppling the world's governments. After a conventional invasion of the United States fails and the free world unites against him, Irons' next course of action is to hit every military installation in the world with biological weapons that'll kill anyone not registered with Atlas.]]
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* ''VideoGame/CallofDutyAdvancedWarfare'': ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyAdvancedWarfare'': Irons is a firm believer that HobbesWasRight, and plans [[spoiler: to unite the world under Atlas after toppling the world's governments. After a conventional invasion of the United States fails and the free world unites against him, Irons' next course of action is to hit every military installation in the world with biological weapons that'll kill anyone not registered with Atlas.]]
12th Nov '15 9:36:56 PM Tuckerscreator
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** TheReveal of ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' pulls this with [[spoiler:your AI companion Cortana]], who in the previous game [[spoiler:remained the Chief's friend even as her digital body collapsed and she struggled to remain sane, eventually doing a HeroicSacrifice with the last of her strength]]. In the following game, [[spoiler:she turns to be alive and supposedly repaired, but now she's an OmnicidalManiac who's going to take over the galaxy with her army of enormous Guardian droids. No joke.]]
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** TheReveal of ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' pulls this with [[spoiler:your AI companion Cortana]], who in the previous game [[spoiler:remained the Chief's friend even as her digital body collapsed and she struggled to remain sane, eventually doing a HeroicSacrifice with the last of her strength]]. In the following game, [[spoiler:she turns to be alive and supposedly repaired, but now she's an OmnicidalManiac who's going to take over the galaxy with her army of enormous Guardian droids. No joke.While she keeps insisting that she has good reasons for doing so]], it's clearly just pushing WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide, especially when [[spoiler:she imprisons Chief and Blue Team in a Cryptum so he won't interfere with her scheme.]]
12th Nov '15 9:34:26 PM Tuckerscreator
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* ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'': ** The Didact, the villain of ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', comes off as this if one is familiar with the ExpandedUniverse. In the terminals of ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'' and ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'', he was depicted as a conflicted general who ended up causing [[EldritchAbomination the Flood]] to conquer more of his civilization because he couldn't bear to [[GodzillaThreshold fire the Halos]] and wipe out all life in the galaxy to kill the parasite. In ''Halo 4'', he apparently didn't want to fire the Halos because he was racist and didn't want those pesky humans taking over the galaxy after the Halos would make some living room. So from tragic hero to [[DarthVaderClone genocidal dictator in skeleton armor]]. ** TheReveal of ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' pulls this with [[spoiler:your AI companion Cortana]], who in the previous game [[spoiler:remained the Chief's friend even as her digital body collapsed and she struggled to remain sane, eventually doing a HeroicSacrifice with the last of her strength]]. In the following game, [[spoiler:she turns to be alive and supposedly repaired, but now she's an OmnicidalManiac who's going to take over the galaxy with her army of enormous Guardian droids. No joke.]]
25th Oct '15 6:19:10 PM ANTMuddle
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic:'' Retired Wonderbolt Wind Rider cared more about the preservation of his flight record than about the implications of the FrameUp he set up against Rainbow Dash, thus leading to a BrokenPedestal and, even worse, being stripped of everything that came with being a Wonderbolt.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic:'' Retired Wonderbolt Wind Rider cared more about the preservation of his flight speed record than about the implications of the FrameUp he set up against Rainbow Dash, thus leading to a BrokenPedestal and, even worse, being stripped of everything that came with being a Wonderbolt.
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