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16th Feb '18 4:37:52 AM Storygirl000
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* [[spoiler:Varian]] from ''WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries'' did this as season 1 progressed. While he started out as [[spoiler:an ally to Rapunzel who usually only caused harm to others through complete accidents, after his father got encased in crystal and Rapunzel was unable to help him, he completely ''snapped''. The last time we see him that season, he's being hauled off to jail for several counts of high treason and making an attempt on the lives of Queen Arianna and Cass, still convinced that [[NeverMyFault none of his actions were his own fault]].]]
10th Feb '18 8:48:06 PM MegaMarioMan
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* CJ and Niko Bellic from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' and ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'', respectively. Let's assume that they're good-hearted people at the start (if the cut-scenes are any indication), and let's assume the player doesn't do any killing not encouraged by the storyline (which is a stretch, but go with it). Now watch how their lives unfold. CJ in particular goes from "I guess I'll kill this guy since he's been screwing with my gang" to "guess I'll just kill all these guys for no apparent reason" so quickly it might make you wonder if you're still playing as the same guy. By the end of the game, at least, he gets to see the awful results of his actions, and he tells his family outright in the final cutscene that they need to rein it in and be more subtle. It helps that he was being blackmailed the entire game. His brother has fewer excuses, and the other Grove OGs have none.

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* CJ and Niko Bellic from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' and ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'', respectively. Let's assume that they're good-hearted people at the start (if the cut-scenes are any indication), and let's assume the player doesn't do any killing not encouraged by the storyline (which is a stretch, but go with it). Now watch how their lives unfold. CJ in particular goes from "I guess I'll kill this guy since he's been screwing with my gang" to "guess I'll just kill all these guys for no apparent reason" so quickly it might make you wonder if you're still playing as the same guy. By the end of the game, at least, he gets to see the awful results of his actions, and he tells his family outright in the final cutscene that they need to rein it in and be more subtle. It helps that he was being blackmailed the entire game. His brother has fewer excuses, and the other Grove OGs [=OGs=] have none.
7th Feb '18 2:01:57 AM Shadowgazer
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* ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000:'' The episode ''[[Recap/MysteryScienceTheater3000S05E15WildWorldOfBatwoman Wild World of Batwoman]]'' also includes the short educational film, "Cheating". When Johnny cheats on a high school math test, Mike and the bots take it as proof that Johnny is Pure Evil, and attribute all manner of other crimes to him: mob connections, fixing football games, and political rivals leaving town "under mysterious circumstances..."
7th Feb '18 1:55:17 AM Shadowgazer
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Jumping off the slippery slope is when a [[AntiHero morally]] [[AntiVillain ambiguous]] character raises an ethical question by doing [[ShootTheDog morally ambiguous things]], but instead of answering those questions, the character [[DebateAndSwitch closes the debate]] by going on to do something [[MoralEventHorizon unquestionably and unforgivably evil]]. The action remains pretty much ambiguous, while the character himself no longer is.

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Jumping off the slippery slope is when a [[AntiHero morally]] [[AntiVillain ambiguous]] character raises an ethical question by doing [[ShootTheDog morally ambiguous things]], but instead of answering those questions, the character [[DebateAndSwitch closes the debate]] by going on to do something [[MoralEventHorizon unquestionably and unforgivably evil]]. The action remains actions remain pretty much ambiguous, while the character himself no longer is.
is. It turns out that the character's point of view and ideology was more warped than what their initial actions suggested.



* ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', [[spoiler:Harvey Dent]] didn't so much "jump off" as much as [[spoiler:get [[strike:kicked]] [[BreakThemByTalking a little push]] from ComicBook/TheJoker]].

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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', [[spoiler:Harvey Dent]] didn't so much "jump off" as much as [[spoiler:get [[strike:kicked]] [[BreakThemByTalking a little push]] from ComicBook/TheJoker]]. This one ends up declaring that chance is the only fair and unbiased judge in the world and decides to force this upon those that he blames for the death of his fiance and his disfigurement which includes the dirty cops who put them in that situation and crime boss Maroni who had them follow the Joker's orders. The thing is he decides to also include in his new twisted worldview Gordon and his family for failing them, despite the fact that Jim really did the best he could.



* In ''Film/{{Jumper}}'', the Paladins are concerned that the Jumpers will use their powers for selfish gain at the expense of others. In fact, they are right. However, they stop them by straight up murdering all Jumpers they come across and anyone associated with them, turning them into the bad guys. It also doesn't help that they use religious rhetoric to justify their actions, coming off as {{Knight Templar}}s.



* In ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'', EPA agent Walter Peck had a point that the Ghostbusters' operations needed some inspection, especially considering Egon was getting worried about the abnormal amount of spectral energy they are containing in their protection grid. However, he had the wrong attitude as he acted all important and showed his control-freak nature. When Peck later vindictively barges into the business with a court order and imperiously orders the grid shutdown despite the warnings of the Busters and the reservations of the accompanying utility worker, he is shown to be totally unreasonable and completely in the wrong. And he goes beyond his inspecting duties showing how petty his motivations are and how the most important thing for him is throwing his weight around. The fact that Peck then orders the Busters arrested for an explosion he himself clearly was responsible for makes him truly despicable.

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* In ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'', EPA agent Walter Peck had a point that the Ghostbusters' operations needed some inspection, especially considering Egon was getting worried about the abnormal amount of spectral energy they are containing in their protection grid. However, he had the wrong attitude as he acted all important and showed his control-freak nature. When Peck later vindictively barges into the business with a court order and imperiously orders the grid shutdown despite the warnings of the Busters and the reservations of the accompanying utility worker, he is shown to be totally unreasonable and completely in the wrong. And he goes beyond his inspecting duties showing how petty his motivations are and how the most important thing for him is throwing his weight around. If anything it was he who pointed out it could be dangerous and therefore had no business toying with it. The fact that Peck then orders the Busters arrested for an explosion he himself clearly was responsible for makes him truly despicable.
4th Feb '18 3:02:41 PM TimeLordVictorious
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** Season 9 and Season 10 had this happen to Dean after he took on [[TheCorruption the Mark of Cain]], with him becoming more violent and prone to murderous rages in Season 9. He allows himself to be killed at the end of the S9 finale in fear of what he's becoming, but [[spoiler: the Mark wouldn't let him die, [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie thus reviving him as a Demon]], but he's cured and turned back into a human in the beginning of S10.]] The Mark, however, still remains, and he eventually relapses mid-Season 10, with [[spoiler: [[MoralityPet Charlie's]] death]] being the catalyst for him giving himself up fully to the Mark's influence. The Season 10 finale has him summon [[TheGrimReaper Death the Horsemen]] in an attempt to have the Mark removed permanently, only for Death to refuse, because removing the Mark without passing it on to someone else will [[spoiler: unleash [[PrimordialChaos the Darkness]], an entity that was locked inside the Mark of Cain since before creation, and is the reason the Mark corrupts anyone who bears it, thus making it the ultimate BigBad of the series, by proxy of being the original source of evil in ''Supernatural''.]]
4th Feb '18 9:50:49 AM nombretomado
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* King Erius in [[{{Nightrunner}} Lynn Flewelling's]] ''Tamir'' trilogy starts by taking the throne from his insane mother, who was executing people left and right, in defiance of the divine edict that for no apparent reason essentially promises Bad Things if a man ever rules the country. Bad Things happen. You could debate whether or not he is really to blame for all that, but then he proceeds to institute sexist practices and start killing off his all female relatives.

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* King Erius in [[{{Nightrunner}} [[Literature/{{Nightrunner}} Lynn Flewelling's]] ''Tamir'' trilogy starts by taking the throne from his insane mother, who was executing people left and right, in defiance of the divine edict that for no apparent reason essentially promises Bad Things if a man ever rules the country. Bad Things happen. You could debate whether or not he is really to blame for all that, but then he proceeds to institute sexist practices and start killing off his all female relatives.
27th Jan '18 8:37:48 PM spacegirlspiff
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** Kylo Ren from ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' murders without remorse and mind-rapes the hero Rey, but he's unstable, a bit psychotic, desperate to live up to the memory of Darth Vader and scared he might have too much of the Light in him. In short, Kylo comes off as a rather pathetic figure who tries too hard to be evil. He solves his problem by [[MoralEventHorizon crossing the ultimate horizon]]: [[spoiler:he kills his own father, '''Han Solo''']].

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** Kylo Ren from ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' murders without remorse and mind-rapes the hero tortures Poe and Rey, but he's unstable, a bit psychotic, desperate to live up to the memory of Darth Vader and scared he might have too much of the Light in him. In short, Kylo comes off as a rather pathetic figure who tries too hard to be evil. He solves his problem by [[MoralEventHorizon crossing the ultimate horizon]]: [[spoiler:he kills his own father, '''Han Solo''']].
24th Jan '18 8:03:37 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In ''MitadakeHigh'' it is common for someone to RP themselves going insane as a result of the madness going on around them. Unfortunately, not everyone is any good at it.

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* In ''MitadakeHigh'' ''VideoGame/MitadakeHigh'' it is common for someone to RP themselves going insane as a result of the madness going on around them. Unfortunately, not everyone is any good at it.
24th Jan '18 12:04:51 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Maledict himself goes from "[[PragmaticVillainy Let's try to save the galaxy if possible so we can exploit its resources]]" to "[[KillEmAll Fuck it let's just blow up the galaxy]]" by the end of the story.

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** Maledict himself goes from "[[PragmaticVillainy Let's try to save the galaxy if possible so we can exploit its resources]]" to "[[KillEmAll Fuck "Fuck it let's just blow up the galaxy]]" galaxy" by the end of the story.
24th Jan '18 12:00:55 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', where a massive buildup for [[spoiler: [[AntiHero Homura Akemi's]] morality struggle to break free from her own mental prison and [[BigBad Kyubey's]] ultimate plan]] ends up with a [[spoiler: SuddenDownerEnding where Homura herself [[AssPull abruptly]] [[FaceHeelTurn rebels against]] [[PhysicalGod Goddess Madoka]] and [[CharacterDerailment becomes a]] SatanicArchetype.]] [[FanonDiscontinuity Fan backlash]] ensued.

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', where a massive buildup for [[spoiler: [[AntiHero Homura Akemi's]] morality struggle to break free from her own mental prison and [[BigBad Kyubey's]] ultimate plan]] ends up with a [[spoiler: SuddenDownerEnding where Homura herself [[AssPull abruptly]] abruptly [[FaceHeelTurn rebels against]] [[PhysicalGod Goddess Madoka]] Madoka and [[CharacterDerailment becomes a]] a SatanicArchetype.]] [[FanonDiscontinuity Fan backlash]] ensued.]]
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