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10th Jul '17 5:55:56 PM MasterN
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', where a massive buildup for [[spoiler: [[AntiHero Homura Akemi's]] morality struggle to break free from her own mental prison and [[BigBad Kyubey's]] ultimate plan]] ends up with a [[spoiler: SuddenDownerEnding where Homura herself abruptly rebels against [[PhysicalGod Goddess Madoka]] and becomes a SatanicArchetype.]] ExecutiveMeddling and [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks fan]] [[FanonDiscontinuity backlash]] ensued. [[WordOfGod Even the creator himself]] [[CreatorBacklash doesn't seem to like the way the character concludes.]]

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', where a massive buildup for [[spoiler: [[AntiHero Homura Akemi's]] morality struggle to break free from [[TomatoInTheMirror her own own]] [[LotusEaterMachine mental prison prison]] and [[BigBad Kyubey's]] ultimate plan]] ends up with a [[spoiler: SuddenDownerEnding where Homura herself [[CharacterDerailment abruptly rebels against against]] [[PhysicalGod Goddess Madoka]] and becomes a SatanicArchetype.]] ExecutiveMeddling and [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks fan]] [[FanonDiscontinuity backlash]] ensued. [[WordOfGod Even the creator himself]] [[CreatorBacklash doesn't seem to like the way the character concludes.]]
10th Jul '17 5:53:00 PM MasterN
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', where a massive buildup for [[spoiler: [[AntiHero Homura Akemi's]] morality struggle to break free from her own mental prison and Kyubey's ultimate plan]] ends up with a SuddenDownerEnding where [[spoiler: Homura herself abruptly rebels against Goddess Madoka and become "evil".]] ExecutiveMeddling and sequel movies ensues. [[WordOfGod Even the creator himself doesn't seem to like the way the character concludes.]]

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', where a massive buildup for [[spoiler: [[AntiHero Homura Akemi's]] morality struggle to break free from her own mental prison and Kyubey's [[BigBad Kyubey's]] ultimate plan]] ends up with a [[spoiler: SuddenDownerEnding where [[spoiler: Homura herself abruptly rebels against [[PhysicalGod Goddess Madoka Madoka]] and become "evil".becomes a SatanicArchetype.]] ExecutiveMeddling and sequel movies ensues. [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks fan]] [[FanonDiscontinuity backlash]] ensued. [[WordOfGod Even the creator himself himself]] [[CreatorBacklash doesn't seem to like the way the character concludes.]]
4th Jul '17 5:31:39 AM Chabal2
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* Arcturus Mengsk of ''VideoGame/{{Starcraft}}'' started out as a dashing rebel leader who saved you and Jim Raynor from the Confederacy for killing Zerg. The first time he used a psi emitter to summon the Zerg it was a military target and the rebels helped the majority of civilians flee. Then he dumped several on Tarsonis, a planet with a population of two ''billion'', before attacking the Protoss who came to stop the Zerg, using the orbital defenses to stop anybody from fleeing, and abandoning his second-in-command to the Swarm.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Starcraft}}''
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Arcturus Mengsk of ''VideoGame/{{Starcraft}}'' of started out as a dashing rebel leader who saved you and Jim Raynor from the Confederacy for killing Zerg. The first time he used a psi emitter to summon the Zerg it was a military target and the rebels helped the majority of civilians flee. Then he dumped several on Tarsonis, a planet with a population of two ''billion'', before attacking the Protoss who came to stop the Zerg, using the orbital defenses to stop anybody from fleeing, and abandoning his second-in-command to the Swarm.Swarm ([[spoiler:admittedly, said second-in-command was the assassin who'd murdered his family, setting him down the path of vengeance even though she didn't remember it]]). And it doesn't stop there: while he didn't count on Kerrigan returning from there as the superpowered leader of the Zerg, it leads to him using ever-more desperate measures to kill her:
*** Setting an imprisoned pal of Raynor's free in exchange for her death (even after seeing her restored to human-ish form);
*** Attacking a ship carrying his own son due to Kerrigan being onboard;
*** Relocating the artifact that has a huge anti-Zerg effect (crippling his own army);
*** Working with mad scientists to create Protoss-Zerg hybrids, inadvertantly furthering the local EldritchAbomination's plan to destroy Terrans and Protoss;
*** Blowing up a prison ship (with the crew still onboard) trying to kill Raynor and Kerrigan;
*** And finally, dropping ''nukes'' on his own home PlanetVille once the Zerg make landfall. Note that after his rebellion (caused by his family's murder), Korhal was nuked by a thousand full-strength missiles by the Confederacy, an event so horrific it rendered the planet uninhabitable for years and used as the justification for the SlapOnTheWristNuke (while one Brood War mission had him use nukes on Korhal, it was still radioactive desert then). Talk about BecameYourOwnAntithesis...
21st Jun '17 2:44:10 PM Shadowgazer
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** The prime example, that the whole series explores in his descent to murder and monstrosity is [[spoiler: Edward Nygma. He was in love with Kringle and demanded to her abusive boyfriend's face to leave her alone. He responded by assaulting him, and in the ensuing conflict he ended up stabbing him to death in an extreme move of self-defense. Things went really downhill when Kringle found out and in a psychotic ouburst of panic he strangled her to death without even realising it. When he saw what he did, he lost any resemblance of a conscience and murdered a possible witness and then he did two atrocities in one strike by murdering a innocent cop in order to frame Jim for the latter's murder.]]

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** The prime example, that the whole series explores in his descent to murder and monstrosity is [[spoiler: Edward Nygma. He was in love with Kringle and demanded to her abusive boyfriend's face to leave her alone. He responded by assaulting him, and in the ensuing conflict he ended up [[ManslaughterProvocation stabbing him to death in an extreme move of self-defense. self-defense]]. Things went really downhill when Kringle found out and in during a psychotic ouburst of panic he strangled her to death without even realising it. When he saw what he did, he lost any resemblance of a conscience and murdered a possible witness and then he did two atrocities in one strike by murdering a innocent cop in order to frame Jim for the latter's murder.]]
5th Jun '17 4:38:18 PM DeuxEX
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** And, while we're on Warcraft games, as you play the human campaign of Warcraft III, Arthas starts out as a dedicated disciple of Uther Lightbringer (even though Arthas is a prince, Uther's military rank is higher than Arthas's, and they both respect that) but gradually starts getting more and more desperate in his fight against the Undead. Eventually, [[spoiler: he totally betrays Azeroth, dresses in Undead armor, and kills his own father]]. In his case his though, while he had a decline, the [[MoralEventHorizon jumping point]] was the result of taking up a cursed sword that he was too desperate to realize was a trap that stole the soul of ''anyone'' it touched.
*** Arthas' jumping point comes long before that, when he decided to murder an entire city rather than trying to help them or warn anyone else of the undead plague, which was the prompt for Jaina to abandon him. Giving up his soul to Frostmourne, and in the process murdering his last remaining ally, was the final step off the bottom of the slope long after he'd decided to toboggan down it.

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** And, while we're on Warcraft games, as you play the human campaign of Warcraft III, Arthas starts out as a dedicated disciple of Uther Lightbringer (even though Arthas is a prince, Uther's military rank is higher than Arthas's, and they both respect that) but gradually starts getting more and more desperate in his fight against the Undead. Eventually, [[spoiler: he totally betrays Azeroth, dresses in Undead Lordaeron, dons an evil looking armor, and kills murders his own father]]. In his case his though, while he had a decline, the [[MoralEventHorizon jumping point]] was the result of taking up a cursed sword that he was too desperate to realize was a trap that stole the soul of ''anyone'' it touched.
*** Arthas' jumping point comes long before that, when he decided to murder an entire city rather than trying to help them or warn anyone else of the undead plague, which was the prompt for Jaina to abandon him. Giving up his soul to Frostmourne, and in the process murdering his last remaining ally, was the final step off the bottom of the slope long after he'd decided to toboggan down it.
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4th May '17 3:44:27 AM Morgenthaler
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30th Apr '17 3:13:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/DawnofthePlanetoftheApes'', Koba begins the film as Caesar's closest friend and Blue Eyes's honorary uncle. Once humans are rediscovered and Caesar tries to make peace with them, he becomes paranoid. Spying on the humans and discovering an armory, Koba furiously berates Caesar leading to a fight between the two and destroying his loyalty. Koba then betrays Caesar by shooting him, framing the humans in the process, and after taking over the human settlement with human casualties, orders the humans rounded up, and when Ash refuses his orders to kill unarmed humans, he kills Ash and has any remaining Caesar loyalists imprisoned.

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* ''Film/DawnofthePlanetoftheApes'', ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', Koba begins the film as Caesar's closest friend and Blue Eyes's honorary uncle. Once humans are rediscovered and Caesar tries to make peace with them, he becomes paranoid. Spying on the humans and discovering an armory, Koba furiously berates Caesar leading to a fight between the two and destroying his loyalty. Koba then betrays Caesar by shooting him, framing the humans in the process, and after taking over the human settlement with human casualties, orders the humans rounded up, and when Ash refuses his orders to kill unarmed humans, he kills Ash and has any remaining Caesar loyalists imprisoned.
22nd Apr '17 4:35:32 AM erforce
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*** In the miniseries ''Born'' it's pretty much stated the Punisher is a sociopath who's addicted to killing, and that if it wasn't criminals it would just be someone else. It is also sort of ambiguous as to whether he sold his soul to some sort of demonic entity, or was just going increasingly insane.

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*** In the miniseries ''Born'' ''[[ComicBook/ThePunisherBorn Born]]'' it's pretty much stated the Punisher is a sociopath who's addicted to killing, and that if it wasn't criminals it would just be someone else. It is also sort of ambiguous as to whether he sold his soul to some sort of demonic entity, or was just going increasingly insane.
12th Apr '17 10:45:43 AM Sapphirea2
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** The Doctor himself jumps from the top of the slope to the bottom in the last 10 or so minutes of "The Waters of Mars". After having spent the whole episode with a group of people destined to die, the Doctor snaps and decides to save them after most of them have already been killed. Just moments after saving the remaining people (in the most epic way possible), the Doctor decides that he can mess with the timeline in any way he sees fit, completely ignoring his species' laws. At this point, the Doctor is almost antagonistic. Thankfully the Doctor is only in this state for one scene, and is brought down a couple of pegs before he can really do anything.
** It's implied in "The Runaway Bride" and more-or-less stated in "Journey's End" that the reason the Doctor travels around with a companion is so that he has someone to remind him not to do this, since he has so much power and gets into such intense and painful situations it would be hard for him not to slip, and hard for anyone to stop him once he starts sliding.

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** It's implied in "The Runaway Bride" and more-or-less stated in "Journey's End" that the reason the Doctor travels around with a companion is so that he has someone to remind him not to do this, since he has so much power and gets into such intense and painful situations it would be hard for him not to slip, and hard for anyone to stop him once he starts sliding. The Doctor himself officially jumps from the top of the slope in two stories in which he is without a companion, though he does manage to return to the bottom side of right in both:
** The Tenth Doctor does this
in the last 10 or so minutes of "The Waters of Mars". After having spent the whole episode with a group of people destined to die, the Doctor snaps and decides to save them after most of them have already been killed. Just moments after saving the remaining people (in the most epic way possible), the Doctor decides that he can mess with the timeline in any way he sees fit, completely ignoring his species' laws. At this point, the Doctor is almost antagonistic. Thankfully the Doctor is only in this state for one scene, and is brought down a couple of pegs before he can really do anything.
** It's implied The Twelfth Doctor does this in the Series 9 finale "Hell Bent". All season he'd been struggling with how much he could or couldn't do to save those around him -- letting O'Donnell die and being willing to die himself but still trying to save his beloved companion Clara Oswald from a preordained death in "Before the Flood", and immortalizing Ashildr/Me in "The Runaway Bride" and more-or-less stated in "Journey's End" Girl Who Died" because it was the only way he could save her from the grave. In "Face the Raven", he considered going on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge that would have slaughtered innocents over [[spoiler: Clara's ''actual'' death]] but Clara talked him down. But he spent the reason next episode "Heaven Sent" not only imprisoned and completely alone but subjected to ColdBloodedTorture. So in "Hell Bent", which takes place after he escapes, he is effectively insane and once again tries to alter a fixed point in time by [[spoiler: undoing Clara's death altogether]], which took place ''billions'' of years ago in-universe by the Doctor travels around with a companion is so that time he manages to get the means to do so; he has someone no plan to remind him not to do this, since he has so much power and gets into such intense and painful situations it avert the destruction of the universe this would be hard for cause and basically hopes he'll get lucky, and justifies his actions by invoking his "duty of care" and DudeWheresMyReward.. For bonus points, he also intends to [[spoiler: Mind Rape Clara of her memories of him]]. But [[spoiler: Clara herself]] manages to talk him down and he returns to his best self by not to slip, and hard for anyone to stop only giving up his TragicDream but [[spoiler: losing his memories of her]], which means he no longer is consumed by the horrors that drove him once he starts sliding.to extremes.
9th Apr '17 5:56:26 PM nombretomado
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** SaintsRowTheThird plays this with most if not all of the main characters, and they each suffer for it. Boss, Gat, Shaundi, Loren, Killbane, Kiki, Temple and Kia are just some of the names who are guilty of this, and all either die or with the exception of Boss can be killed. Boss arguably gets it even worse if s/he chooses to jump off the slippery slope: s/he reverts back to being worse than ever, and a thoroughly despicable person.

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** SaintsRowTheThird ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'' plays this with most if not all of the main characters, and they each suffer for it. Boss, Gat, Shaundi, Loren, Killbane, Kiki, Temple and Kia are just some of the names who are guilty of this, and all either die or with the exception of Boss can be killed. Boss arguably gets it even worse if s/he chooses to jump off the slippery slope: s/he reverts back to being worse than ever, and a thoroughly despicable person.
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