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22nd Sep '16 8:57:37 PM TheBigBopper
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': A magic user entering someone's mind is sometimes the only way to save their individuality from being swallowed up by some powerful force or {{Tulpa}}. It can be very dangerous for the interloper because the rules that govern the dream world and any luminous body who enters it spring from the mind of the dreamer, and the first thing that the entrant should do is figure out what that dreamer's conceptions are.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': A magic user entering someone's mind in astral form is sometimes the only way to save their individuality from being swallowed up by some powerful force or {{Tulpa}}. It can be very dangerous for the interloper because the rules that govern the dream world and any luminous body who enters it spring from the mind of the dreamer, and the first thing that the entrant should do is figure out what that dreamer's conceptions are.
22nd Sep '16 8:54:38 PM TheBigBopper
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'':
** When Guts first wears the Berserker Armor and loses his mind to rage, Schierke has to enter his mind in her luminous body. There she sees flashes of Guts' horrifying experiences and confronts his ego subsumed within the Beast of Darkness, and puts him back in control by reminding him who he is and who he needs to protect. Many more times after that she enters Guts' mind and goes with him in spirit form to temporarily tame the Beast and make sure that Guts does not lose himself.
* The only means by which Casca might be cured of the trauma that led to her personality and memories being repressed, which becomes clear in the Chapter of Elf Island: [[spoiler:Danann takes Casca, Schierke, Farnese, and Ivalera down to a bed of magic mushrooms at the base of the great tree, and leads them in a ritual to enter Casca's dreams]].

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'':
''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': A magic user entering someone's mind is sometimes the only way to save their individuality from being swallowed up by some powerful force or {{Tulpa}}. It can be very dangerous for the interloper because the rules that govern the dream world and any luminous body who enters it spring from the mind of the dreamer, and the first thing that the entrant should do is figure out what that dreamer's conceptions are.
** When Guts first wears the Berserker Armor and loses his mind to rage, Schierke has to enter his mind in her luminous body.body at great risk to herself. There she sees flashes of Guts' horrifying experiences and confronts his ego subsumed within the Beast of Darkness, and puts him back in control by reminding him who he is and who he needs to protect. Many more times after that she enters Guts' mind and goes with him in spirit form to temporarily tame the Beast and make sure that Guts does not lose himself.
* ** The only means by which Casca might be cured of the trauma that which led to her personality and memories being to be repressed, which becomes clear in the Chapter of Elf Island: [[spoiler:Danann takes Casca, Schierke, Farnese, and Ivalera down to a bed of magic mushrooms at the base of the great tree, and leads them in a ritual to enter Casca's dreams]].
22nd Sep '16 8:44:09 PM TheBigBopper
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'':
** When Guts first wears the Berserker Armor and loses his mind to rage, Schierke has to enter his mind in her luminous body. There she sees flashes of Guts' horrifying experiences and confronts his ego subsumed within the Beast of Darkness, and puts him back in control by reminding him who he is and who he needs to protect. Many more times after that she enters Guts' mind and goes with him in spirit form to temporarily tame the Beast and make sure that Guts does not lose himself.
* The only means by which Casca might be cured of the trauma that led to her personality and memories being repressed, which becomes clear in the Chapter of Elf Island: [[spoiler:Danann takes Casca, Schierke, Farnese, and Ivalera down to a bed of magic mushrooms at the base of the great tree, and leads them in a ritual to enter Casca's dreams]].
23rd Aug '16 3:03:08 AM WillBGood
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Naturally, taking this kind of action is deeply personally invasive and so it can be compared to MindRape. Indeed, the scene could be set up to suggest such a parallel complete with villains ignoring protests or struggles from the person whose mind they are exploring and the heroes seeking consent before doing so. Expect the heroes to hesitate before finally deciding that they have crossed TheGodzillaThreshold if the owner of the mind would otherwise get/remain crazy/in a coma or some other serious issue. Using this for less serious issues can lead to a WhatTheHellHero from other characters.

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Naturally, taking this kind of action is deeply personally invasive and so it can be compared to MindRape. Indeed, the scene could be set up to suggest such a parallel complete with villains ignoring protests or struggles from the person whose mind they are exploring and the heroes seeking consent before doing so. Expect the heroes to hesitate before finally deciding that they have crossed TheGodzillaThreshold the GodzillaThreshold if the owner of the mind would otherwise get/remain crazy/in a coma or some other serious issue. Using this for less serious issues can lead to a WhatTheHellHero from other characters.
10th Aug '16 8:03:10 AM ChaoticNovelist
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Oddly, rarely shown as a malicious act when done by the heroes, despite being deeply personally invasive and usually without consent. This may be [[JustifiedTrope justifiable]], however, if the owner of the mind would otherwise get/remain crazy/in a coma, or, in short, when serious issues are at stake. Less justifiable when done to solve minor issues.

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Oddly, rarely shown as a malicious act when done by the heroes, despite being Naturally, taking this kind of action is deeply personally invasive and usually without consent. This may so it can be [[JustifiedTrope justifiable]], however, compared to MindRape. Indeed, the scene could be set up to suggest such a parallel complete with villains ignoring protests or struggles from the person whose mind they are exploring and the heroes seeking consent before doing so. Expect the heroes to hesitate before finally deciding that they have crossed TheGodzillaThreshold if the owner of the mind would otherwise get/remain crazy/in a coma, or, in short, when coma or some other serious issue. Using this for less serious issues are at stake. Less justifiable when done can lead to solve minor issues.
a WhatTheHellHero from other characters.



** [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries "By the way, have you ever seen Labyrinth?"]]



* In the dating sim/RPG ''ArTonelico'', there exist machines called 'dive machines' that allow someone to travel to a Reyvateil's soulspace. The point is for the driver to deepen their relationship with the Reyvateil in order to generate new spells (and costumes). 'Diving' as a intensely intimate act and so a Reyvateil will only allow someone they like and/or trust to do so.

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* In the dating sim/RPG ''ArTonelico'', there exist machines called 'dive machines' that allow someone to travel to a Reyvateil's soulspace. The point is for the driver diver to deepen their relationship with the Reyvateil in order to generate new spells (and costumes). 'Diving' as a intensely intimate act and so a Reyvateil will only allow someone they like and/or trust to do so.



** [[NintendoHard That hurt like hell]].
29th Jul '16 6:39:31 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'': [[ActionGirl Tifa]] has to venture into the mind of her friend Cloud when he becomes mentally-quadriplegic and sits ''almost'' silently in a wheelchair, unable to do anything, after falling into the Lifestream. She, then Cid, become the main characters until Cloud comes round thanks to her help.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'': [[ActionGirl Tifa]] has to venture into the mind of her friend After Cloud when is subjected to a ''cruel'' MindScrew [[spoiler: that leads him to believe he's a mere clone of Sephiroth created by MadScientist Hojo]] and then falls into TheLifestream, he he becomes mentally-quadriplegic and sits ''almost'' silently in a wheelchair, unable to do anything, anything. In the meantime his best friend and prospect girlfriend, [[ActionGirl Tifa]], takes a brief stint as the team leader but then stays for a while by his side, and ultimately pulls this to bring him back to his senses [[spoiler: after falling into they ''both'' fall to the Lifestream. She, then Cid, become Lifestream and begin picking up the main characters until pieces of ''both'' Tifa's and Cloud's memories, leading them to see that there really ''is'' a guy named Cloud comes round thanks to her help.and that he is ''not'' a Sephiroth clone.]]
4th Jun '16 9:55:23 AM nombretomado
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*** And the PS2 action-RPG ''VideoGame/DualHearts'', which sadly got lost in the shuffle of case of [[Franchise/KingdomHearts many games]] with [[VideoGame/ShadowHearts "Hearts" in the title]] coming out around the same time.

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*** And the PS2 [=PS2=] action-RPG ''VideoGame/DualHearts'', which sadly got lost in the shuffle of case of [[Franchise/KingdomHearts many games]] with [[VideoGame/ShadowHearts "Hearts" in the title]] coming out around the same time.
27th May '16 11:29:52 AM HelloLamppost
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** Due to the psychology-themed nature of the character, this trope has cropped up repeatedly over the years, but Jenkins's use of it stands out as the most notable. Other examples include the time he made physical contact with the Watcher's "Ultimate Machine," which sent him on a sort of vision quest to come to terms with Betty's death; the depiction of his psychiatric session with Doc Samson that resulted in his personalities being merged; the appearance of his three childhood imaginary friends during the Crossroads Saga, who helped Banner find his way back from psychic oblivion; and various dream sequences over the years in which he comes into physical conflict with one or more of his Hulk personae.

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** Due to the psychology-themed nature of the character, this trope has cropped up repeatedly over the years, but Jenkins's use of it stands out as the most notable. Other examples include the time he the Hulk made physical contact with the Watcher's "Ultimate Machine," which sent him on a sort of vision quest to come to terms with Betty's death; the depiction of his psychiatric session with Doc Samson that resulted in his personalities being merged; the appearance of his three childhood imaginary friends during the Crossroads Saga, who helped Banner find his way back from psychic oblivion; and various dream sequences over the years in which he comes has come into physical conflict with one or more of his Hulk personae.
27th May '16 11:27:31 AM HelloLamppost
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* In ''Comicbook/LegionOfSuperHeroes,'' when Shrinking Violet is possessed by the Emerald Eye of Ekron, Saturn Girl enters her mind to help her realize what has happened and encourage her to break free of its control.
27th May '16 11:24:21 AM HelloLamppost
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** Actually, due to the psychology-themed nature of the character, this trope has cropped up repeatedly over the years, but Jenkins's use of it stands out as the most notable. Other examples include the time he made physical contact with the Watcher's "Ultimate Machine," which sent him on a sort of vision quest to come to terms with Betty's death; the depiction of his psychiatric session with Doc Samson that resulted in his personalities being merged; the appearance of his three childhood imaginary friends during the Crossroads Saga, who helped Banner find his way back from psychic oblivion; and various dream sequences over the years in which he comes into physical conflict with one or more of his Hulk personae.

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** Actually, due Due to the psychology-themed nature of the character, this trope has cropped up repeatedly over the years, but Jenkins's use of it stands out as the most notable. Other examples include the time he made physical contact with the Watcher's "Ultimate Machine," which sent him on a sort of vision quest to come to terms with Betty's death; the depiction of his psychiatric session with Doc Samson that resulted in his personalities being merged; the appearance of his three childhood imaginary friends during the Crossroads Saga, who helped Banner find his way back from psychic oblivion; and various dream sequences over the years in which he comes into physical conflict with one or more of his Hulk personae.
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