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20th Apr '17 11:19:00 PM mouschilight
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** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that Hinata's dream featured a still-alive Neji, even though he ''died'' to save Naruto and Hinata in Chapter 614, and then everyone, including Hinata, woke up from their dream and attended Neji's funeral in Chapter 699, plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed with Kishimoto's approval and involvement ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
** Post-main series finale, there was the pervasive fan theory that [[spoiler: Sasuke's child, Sarada, was in reality Karin's daughter instead of Sakura's]]. ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'' not only disproved this, but also gave it a rather [[TakeThatAudience large middle finger]].

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** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that Hinata's dream featured a still-alive Neji, even though he ''died'' to save Naruto and Hinata in Chapter 614, and then everyone, including Hinata, woke up from their dream and attended Neji's funeral in Chapter 699, plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed with Kishimoto's approval and involvement ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
** Post-main series finale, there was the pervasive fan theory that [[spoiler: Sasuke's child, Sarada, was in reality Karin's daughter instead of Sakura's]]. ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'' ''Naruto Gaiden'' not only disproved this, but also gave it a rather [[TakeThatAudience large middle finger]].
20th Apr '17 9:31:33 PM mouschilight
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** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that Hinata's dream featured a still-alive Neji, even though he ''died'' to save Naruto and Hinata in Chapter 614, and then everyone, including Hinata, woke up from their dream and attended Neji's funeral in Chapter 699, plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed along with Kishimoto's approval and involvement ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.

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** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that Hinata's dream featured a still-alive Neji, even though he ''died'' to save Naruto and Hinata in Chapter 614, and then everyone, including Hinata, woke up from their dream and attended Neji's funeral in Chapter 699, plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed along with Kishimoto's approval and involvement ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
20th Apr '17 7:07:13 PM jforster
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****A fan theory (not Jossed) hypothesizes that Robert Brown's M (the second M, after Bernard Lee and before Creator/JudiDench) is in fact a background admiral Brown had played in Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe. This doesn't explain the film series' tendency to [[YouLookFamiliar reuse other actors, however]]...
20th Apr '17 6:58:28 PM jforster
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***To be fair, this had been disproved as early as Film/ForYourEyesOnly, when Creator/RogerMoore's Bond grieved the loss of Creator/GeorgeLazenby's Bond's wife's death, or arguably earlier, when Creator/SeanConnery's Bond avenged that wife's death in Film/DiamondsAreForever. Plus, there's the matter of Bond's supporting cast never changing (what, is Miss Moneypenny a codename? Felix Leiter?) with the only codenamed rotating players being M and Q (with Q explicitly replaced with a different character in Film/TheWorldIsNotEnough). And let's not even bring up Bond keeping his name after being fired from MI6 in Film/LicencetoKill.
20th Apr '17 2:37:31 AM mouschilight
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** A lot of fanfic writers assumed that Naruto's HealingFactor allowed him to regrow lost limbs. Chapter 699 shows that no, [[AnArmAndALeg that's not the case]].
** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that Hinata's dream featured a still-alive Neji, even though he ''died'' to save Naruto and Hinata in Chapter 614, and then everyone, including Hinata, woke up from their dream and attended Neji's funeral in Chapter 699, plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed along with Kishimoto's approval and involvement ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.



** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Hinata, attended Neji's funeral in Chapter 699[[note]]Hinata's dream not only featured her and Naruto on a date, but it also showed Neji being alive--and he ''died'' protecting Naruto and Hinata in Chapter 614[[/note]], plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
** A lot of fanfic writers assumed that Naruto's HealingFactor allowed him to regrow lost limbs. Chapter 699 shows that no, [[AnArmAndALeg that's not the case]].
19th Apr '17 4:58:37 PM mouschilight
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** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Hinata, attended Neji's funeral in Chapter 699[[note]]Hinata's dream not only featured her and Naruto on a date, but it also showed Neji being alive--and he ''died'' protecting Naruto and Hinata[[/note]], plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.

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** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Hinata, attended Neji's funeral in Chapter 699[[note]]Hinata's dream not only featured her and Naruto on a date, but it also showed Neji being alive--and he ''died'' protecting Naruto and Hinata[[/note]], Hinata in Chapter 614[[/note]], plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
19th Apr '17 4:45:03 PM mouschilight
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** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Hinata, attended Neji's funeral[[note]]Hinata's dream not only featured her and Naruto on a date, but it also showed Neji being alive--and he ''died'' protecting Naruto and Hinata[[/note]], plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.

to:

** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Hinata, attended Neji's funeral[[note]]Hinata's funeral in Chapter 699[[note]]Hinata's dream not only featured her and Naruto on a date, but it also showed Neji being alive--and he ''died'' protecting Naruto and Hinata[[/note]], plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
19th Apr '17 4:43:14 PM mouschilight
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** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Hinata, attended Neji's funeral[[note]]Hinata's dream not only featured her and Naruto on a date, but it also showed Neji being alive--and he ''died'' protecting Naruto and Hinata[[/note]], and the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', plus [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.

to:

** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Hinata, attended Neji's funeral[[note]]Hinata's dream not only featured her and Naruto on a date, but it also showed Neji being alive--and he ''died'' protecting Naruto and Hinata[[/note]], and plus the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', plus not to mention [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
19th Apr '17 4:41:44 PM mouschilight
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** Post-main series finale, there was the pervasive fan theory that [[spoiler: Sasuke's child, Sarada, was in reality Karin's daughter instead of Sakura's]]. ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'' not only disproved this, but also gave it a rather [[TakeThatAudience large middle finger]].
** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Naruto and Hinata, attended Neji's funeral, and the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', plus [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.

to:

** Post-main series finale, there was the pervasive fan theory that [[spoiler: Sasuke's child, Sarada, was in reality Karin's daughter instead of Sakura's]]. ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'' ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'' not only disproved this, but also gave it a rather [[TakeThatAudience large middle finger]].
** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Naruto and Hinata, attended Neji's funeral, funeral[[note]]Hinata's dream not only featured her and Naruto on a date, but it also showed Neji being alive--and he ''died'' protecting Naruto and Hinata[[/note]], and the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', plus [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
19th Apr '17 4:33:43 PM mouschilight
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** Post main series finale, there was the pervasive fan theory that [[spoiler: Sasuke's child, Sarada, was in reality Karin's daughter instead of Sakura's]], ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'' not only disproved this but also gave it a rather [[TakeThatAudience large middle finger]].
** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', plus [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.

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** Post main Post-main series finale, there was the pervasive fan theory that [[spoiler: Sasuke's child, Sarada, was in reality Karin's daughter instead of Sakura's]], Sakura's]]. ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'' not only disproved this this, but also gave it a rather [[TakeThatAudience large middle finger]].
** The "[[AllJustADream Genjutsu]] [[EpilepticTrees Theory]]", espoused mostly by [[DieForOurShip upset shipping fans]], which claims that the events of the final chapters and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' are in reality [[SchrodingersButterfly taking place in the]] [[LotusEaterMachine Infinite Tsukiyomi]] dream world, of Hinata, to be more precise (since ''The Last'' is very Hinata-centric). Suffice to say, the fact that everyone, including Naruto and Hinata, attended Neji's funeral, and the subsequent releases of ''Naruto Gaiden'', ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'' and the sequel manga ''[[Manga/{{Boruto}} Boruto: Naruto Next Generation]]'', plus [[WordOfGod Kishimoto's own statements in several post-series interviews]]--statements that are heavily supported by the fact that ''The Last'' was confirmed ''with'' Kishimoto's approval ''two years'' before the manga ended--have Jossed this theory to hell and back.
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