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17th Jan '18 7:23:46 AM ClintEastwood
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** Some fans thought Finn and Rey would become romantically involved in following episodes. This theory was shot down by John Boyega (the actor who plays Finn) in an [[http://variety.com/2016/film/news/star-wars-episode-viii-darker-bigger-john-boyega-1201774027/ interview]], where he clarified that Finn and Rey are just friends and will not be evolving into romantic interests.

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** Some fans thought Finn and Rey would become romantically involved in following episodes. This theory was shot down by John Boyega Creator/JohnBoyega (the actor who plays Finn) in an [[http://variety.com/2016/film/news/star-wars-episode-viii-darker-bigger-john-boyega-1201774027/ interview]], where he clarified that Finn and Rey are just friends and will not be evolving into romantic interests.



* It was taken as gospel that the Audi 8 Decepticon in the Film/TransformersFilmSeries was a reformatted Barricade. However, he was later revealed as Sideways.

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* It was taken as gospel that the Audi 8 Decepticon in the Film/TransformersFilmSeries ''Film/TransformersFilmSeries'' was a reformatted Barricade. However, he was later revealed as Sideways.



*** To be fair, this had been disproved as early as Film/ForYourEyesOnly, when Creator/RogerMoore's Bond grieved the loss of Creator/GeorgeLazenby's Bond's wife's death, or arguably earlier, when Creator/SeanConnery's Bond avenged that wife's death in Film/DiamondsAreForever. Plus, there's the matter of Bond's supporting cast never changing (what, is Miss Moneypenny a codename? Felix Leiter?) with the only codenamed rotating players being M and Q (with Q explicitly replaced with a different character in Film/TheWorldIsNotEnough). And let's not even bring up Bond keeping his name after being fired from MI6 in Film/LicencetoKill.
*** A fan theory (not Jossed) hypothesizes that Robert Brown's M (the second M, after Bernard Lee and before Creator/JudiDench) is in fact a background admiral Brown had played in Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe. This doesn't explain the film series' tendency to [[YouLookFamiliar reuse other actors, however]]...

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*** To be fair, this had been disproved as early as Film/ForYourEyesOnly, ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'', when Creator/RogerMoore's Bond grieved the loss of Creator/GeorgeLazenby's Bond's wife's death, or arguably earlier, when Creator/SeanConnery's Bond avenged that wife's death in Film/DiamondsAreForever. ''Film/DiamondsAreForever''. Plus, there's the matter of Bond's supporting cast never changing (what, is Miss Moneypenny a codename? Felix Leiter?) with the only codenamed rotating players being M and Q (with Q explicitly replaced with a different character in Film/TheWorldIsNotEnough). ''Film/TheWorldIsNotEnough''). And let's not even bring up Bond keeping his name after being fired from MI6 in Film/LicencetoKill.
''Film/LicenceToKill''.
*** A fan theory (not Jossed) hypothesizes that Robert Brown's M (the second M, after Bernard Lee and before Creator/JudiDench) is in fact a background admiral Brown had played in Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe.''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe''. This doesn't explain the film series' tendency to [[YouLookFamiliar reuse other actors, however]]...



** Any idea that the modern series was a reboot (or that the film was considered discontinuity, making Eccleston the real ''Eighth'' Doctor, Tennant the ''Ninth'' and so on) was immediately thrown out once Sarah Jane Smith and K-9 appeared and Tennant's Doctor mentions regenerating "half a dozen times" in the same episode. In several episodes, starting with 2007's "Human Nature", [=McGann's=] Doctor's face explicitly appears on screen.

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** Any idea that the modern series was a reboot (or that the film was considered discontinuity, making Eccleston Creator/ChristopherEccleston the real ''Eighth'' Doctor, Tennant Creator/DavidTennant the ''Ninth'' and so on) was immediately thrown out once Sarah Jane Smith and K-9 appeared and Tennant's Doctor mentions regenerating "half a dozen times" in the same episode. In several episodes, starting with 2007's "Human Nature", [=McGann's=] Creator/PaulMcGann's Doctor's face explicitly appears on screen.



** The appearance of [[spoiler: John Hurt as the Doctor's regeneration during the Time War]] led to many fans thinking that he was [[spoiler: an [[TimeshiftedActor older version]] of [=McGann's=] Eighth Doctor.]] This fan theory was thrown out the window in the short "Night of the Doctor [[spoiler: which brought back [=McGann=] as the Eighth Doctor and showed how he regenerated into the Doctor from the Time-War.]]

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** The appearance of [[spoiler: John Hurt Creator/JohnHurt as the Doctor's regeneration during the Time War]] led to many fans thinking that he was [[spoiler: an [[TimeshiftedActor older version]] of [=McGann's=] Eighth Doctor.]] This fan theory was thrown out the window in the short "Night of the Doctor [[spoiler: which brought back [=McGann=] as the Eighth Doctor and showed how he regenerated into the Doctor from the Time-War.]]



*** Jossed for the first time in "Remembrance of the Daleks," when we first see a Dalek flying up a flight of stairs.

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*** Jossed for the first time in "Remembrance "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks Remembrance of the Daleks," Daleks]]", when we first see a Dalek flying up a flight of stairs.



*** And originally Jossed back in 1965 in "The Chase". We don't see Daleks in the act of climbing stairs, but we do see some upstairs from the spot where their time machine landed.
*** [[WordOfGod Verity Lambert]] said the only reason Daleks weren't seen elevating in the very early days was because it was too expensive/difficult to do a convincing job on screen. After that it was more habit than anything (the levitating Dalek in "Remembrance of the Daleks" had to stay close to the wall because it was supported by three men on the other side lifting it on poles).
** The revelation that Ian and Barbara were still alive and apparently TheAgeless, in "Death of the Doctor" from ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'', Jossed the very common grim darkfic fanon that gave Barbara the early death from breast cancer that claimed her actress Jacqueline Hill in real life, and ascribed it to her irradiation on Skaro in "The Daleks".
** A longstanding opinion held by many fans is that the Doctor is asexual and incapable of romantic inclinations (in part based upon a line of dialogue in the 1979 story "City of Death" in which the Doctor refers to a woman as "probably" being beautiful, and the show itself (due to ExecutiveMeddling) eliminating all but the slightest hint of romance. Thoroughly shot down in the modern era as very Doctor to date has had a romantic connection with somebody (sometimes multiple somebodies), with the Doctor depicted as being in love with Rose Tyler, Clara Oswald and River Song - and marrying the latter.

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*** And originally Jossed back in 1965 in "The Chase"."[[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E8TheChase The Chase]]". We don't see Daleks in the act of climbing stairs, but we do see some upstairs from the spot where their time machine landed.
*** [[WordOfGod Verity Lambert]] Creator/VerityLambert said the only reason Daleks weren't seen elevating in the very early days was because it was too expensive/difficult to do a convincing job on screen. After that it was more habit than anything (the levitating Dalek in "Remembrance of the Daleks" had to stay close to the wall because it was supported by three men on the other side lifting it on poles).
** The revelation that Ian and Barbara were still alive and apparently TheAgeless, in "Death of the Doctor" from ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'', Jossed the very common grim darkfic fanon that gave Barbara the early death from breast cancer that claimed her actress Jacqueline Hill in real life, and ascribed it to her irradiation on Skaro in "The Daleks".
"[[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks The Daleks]]".
** A longstanding opinion held by many fans is that the Doctor is asexual and incapable of romantic inclinations (in part based upon a line of dialogue in the 1979 story "City "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS17E2CityOfDeath City of Death" Death]]" in which the Doctor refers to a woman as "probably" being beautiful, and the show itself (due to ExecutiveMeddling) eliminating all but the slightest hint of romance. Thoroughly shot down in the modern era as very Doctor to date has had a romantic connection with somebody (sometimes multiple somebodies), with the Doctor depicted as being in love with Rose Tyler, Clara Oswald and River Song - and marrying the latter.
12th Jan '18 5:46:16 PM CelestiaCadenceLuna
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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled Infinity Gauntlet in the movie. The latest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in space and that there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].

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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled Infinity Gauntlet in the movie. The latest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in space and that there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].
12th Jan '18 5:38:49 PM CelestiaCadenceLuna
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* When ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' was in the early pre-production stages, Creator/JamesGunn mentioned that he'd be introducing one of his favorite superheroes as a new member of the team. This caused a bunch of speculation that the new Guardian in question would be someone like Moondragon, Adam Warlock, [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]], or even one of UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} Guardians like Starhawk or Vance Astro. In the end, it turned out to be Mantis, a character a lot of fans had overlooked.

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* When ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'' was in the early pre-production stages, Creator/JamesGunn mentioned that he'd be introducing one of his favorite superheroes as a new member of the team. This caused a bunch of speculation that the new Guardian in question would be someone like Moondragon, Adam Warlock, [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]], or even one of UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} Guardians like Starhawk or Vance Astro. In the end, it turned out to be Mantis, a character a lot of fans had overlooked. However, Starhawk is also in the movie, played by Creator/SylvesterStallone.
12th Jan '18 5:25:02 PM CelestiaCadenceLuna
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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled Infinity Gauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in space and that there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].

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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled Infinity Gauntlet in the movie. The lastest latest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in space and that there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].
12th Jan '18 5:24:22 PM CelestiaCadenceLuna
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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled Infinity Gauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].

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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled Infinity Gauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand space and that there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].
12th Jan '18 5:22:30 PM CelestiaCadenceLuna
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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled InfinityGauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].

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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled InfinityGauntlet Infinity Gauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].
12th Jan '18 5:21:42 PM CelestiaCadenceLuna
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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled InfinityGauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].

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* Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled InfinityGauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[[WhatanIdiot [[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].
12th Jan '18 5:21:10 PM CelestiaCadenceLuna
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** When it was announced that Creator/WilliamHurt was reprising his role as General Ross for ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', the rumor mill went into overtime with speculation that Ross would become the Comicbook/RedHulk in the movie. He didn't.
** Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled InfinityGauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].

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** * When it was announced that Creator/WilliamHurt was reprising his role as General Ross for ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', the rumor mill went into overtime with speculation that Ross would become the Comicbook/RedHulk in the movie. He didn't.
** * Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled InfinityGauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].
12th Jan '18 5:20:06 PM CelestiaCadenceLuna
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* When it was announced that Creator/WilliamHurt was reprising his role as General Ross for ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', the rumor mill went into overtime with speculation that Ross would become the Comicbook/RedHulk in the movie. He didn't.

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* ** When it was announced that Creator/WilliamHurt was reprising his role as General Ross for ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', the rumor mill went into overtime with speculation that Ross would become the Comicbook/RedHulk in the movie. He didn't.didn't.
**Several fans have constantly repeated that most of the action in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' would take place in space, and that Thanos would not have a fully-assembled InfinityGauntlet in the movie. The lastest trailers shows Thanos menacing both New York and Wakanda, and him with a fully-assembled Gauntlet. [[[WhatanIdiot Despite still, they still insist most of the action will take place in spaceand there won't be a fully-assembled Gauntlet]].
7th Jan '18 10:17:21 AM Trooper924
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** Fanfics often depicted the fight between Princess Celestia and Nightmare Moon as a [[GreatOffscreenWar massive war]], involving entire armies and spanning over the course of several battles. However, [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E2PrincessTwilightSparklePart2 the second half]] of the season four premiere revealed that the two only had one, brief confrontation before Celestia banished her sister to the moon.

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** Fanfics often depicted the fight between Princess Celestia and Nightmare Moon as a [[GreatOffscreenWar massive all-out war]], involving entire armies and spanning over the course of several battles. However, [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E2PrincessTwilightSparklePart2 the second half]] of the season four premiere revealed that the two only had one, one brief confrontation before Celestia banished her sister to the moon.
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