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1st Nov '13 1:00:38 PM Willbyr
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Editor-in-Chief at MarvelComics between 2000-2011, and a very polarising figure indeed. Started off as an artist, probably best known for his work on {{Daredevil}}. He took the editor job in 2000 and, while comic sales have risen since he took over, they are still a shadow of the sales in the SilverAge through the 1980s.

Currently holds the position of Marvel's Chief Creative Officer, tasked to "ensure that all portrayals of Marvel's characters and stories remain true to the essence of Marvel history."

'''Some editorial decisions:'''

* {{Spider-Man}}'s ''OneMoreDay'', which attempts to make Peter Parker YoungerAndHipper by dissolving his marriage to Mary Jane Watson.
* [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Jean Grey]] coming BackFromTheDead was also "corrected" by having her killed off, despite her massive CharacterDevelopment since then.
* He evidently preferred Emma Frost being altered to more of a HeelFaceTurn and SpoiledBrat than even when she was a villain. So he "rewarded" Emma by sticking her into Jean's place, including being Scott Summers's LoveInterest, which started with them kissing over Jean's grave.
* He and BrianBendis had [[ComicBook/TheAvengers The Wasp]] killed off, again claiming that her now widowed husband, Hank Pym, is now "more interesting" without her.
* Forced {{Wolverine}} and Nick Fury to drop their iconic cigars, which they'd had for roughly 30 and 40 years respectively. Killing, maiming and making deals with Satan stand-ins is okay otherwise. [[FridgeLogic Smoking doesn't even harm Wolverine]], due to his HealingFactor. When he temporarily lost it, he had to quit.
* Censoring Trade Paperbacks.
* He likes big, big, BIG [[CrisisCrossover crossover events]].

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Editor-in-Chief at MarvelComics between 2000-2011, and a very polarising figure indeed. Started off as an artist, probably best known for his work on {{Daredevil}}. He took the editor job in 2000 and, while comic sales have risen since he took over, they are still a shadow of the sales in the SilverAge through the 1980s.

Currently holds the position of Marvel's Chief Creative Officer, tasked to "ensure that all portrayals of Marvel's characters and stories remain true to the essence of Marvel history."

'''Some editorial decisions:'''

* {{Spider-Man}}'s ''OneMoreDay'', which attempts to make Peter Parker YoungerAndHipper by dissolving his marriage to Mary Jane Watson.
* [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Jean Grey]] coming BackFromTheDead was also "corrected" by having her killed off, despite her massive CharacterDevelopment since then.
* He evidently preferred Emma Frost being altered to more of a HeelFaceTurn and SpoiledBrat than even when she was a villain. So he "rewarded" Emma by sticking her into Jean's place, including being Scott Summers's LoveInterest, which started with them kissing over Jean's grave.
* He and BrianBendis had [[ComicBook/TheAvengers The Wasp]] killed off, again claiming that her now widowed husband, Hank Pym, is now "more interesting" without her.
* Forced {{Wolverine}} and Nick Fury to drop their iconic cigars, which they'd had for roughly 30 and 40 years respectively. Killing, maiming and making deals with Satan stand-ins is okay otherwise. [[FridgeLogic Smoking doesn't even harm Wolverine]], due to his HealingFactor. When he temporarily lost it, he had to quit.
* Censoring Trade Paperbacks.
* He likes big, big, BIG [[CrisisCrossover crossover events]].

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6th Dec '11 11:47:03 AM Fighteer
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* He evidently preferred Emma Frost being [[CharacterDerailment altered/derailed]] to more of a HeelFaceTurn and SpoiledBrat than even when she was a villain. So he "rewarded" Emma by sticking her into Jean's place, including being Scott Summers's LoveInterest, which started with them kissing over Jean's grave.

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* He evidently preferred Emma Frost being [[CharacterDerailment altered/derailed]] altered to more of a HeelFaceTurn and SpoiledBrat than even when she was a villain. So he "rewarded" Emma by sticking her into Jean's place, including being Scott Summers's LoveInterest, which started with them kissing over Jean's grave.
26th May '11 9:52:22 PM FastEddie
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* He likes big, big, [[EndingFatigue BIG]] [[CrisisCrossover crossover events]].

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* He likes big, big, [[EndingFatigue BIG]] BIG [[CrisisCrossover crossover events]].
26th May '11 9:51:52 PM FastEddie
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* The big one is {{Spider-Man}}'s ''OneMoreDay'', which attempts to make Peter Parker YoungerAndHipper by dissolving his marriage to Mary Jane Watson.

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* The big one is {{Spider-Man}}'s ''OneMoreDay'', which attempts to make Peter Parker YoungerAndHipper by dissolving his marriage to Mary Jane Watson.



He might be the model for Dexter Bennet, the new Daily Bugle's owner..
26th May '11 9:50:54 PM FastEddie
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-> [[WhatCouldHaveBeen There would be better books on his show]],\\
but [[JoeQuesada Quesada]] [[CosmicRetcon sold them to]] [[OneMoreDay Mephisto]]
--> -- '''[[AtopTheFourthWall Vincent E.L]]''', summarizing the controversies during the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poI5dBNien0 Gunslinger Theme, full version]]

Editor-in-Chief at MarvelComics between 2000-2011, and a very polarising figure indeed. Started off as an artist, probably best known for his work on {{Daredevil}}, he took the EIC job in 2000 and, while comic sales have risen since he took over, they are still a shadow of the sales in the SilverAge through the 1980s.

But he has angered a number of fans with many of his recent decisions (some [[MisBlamed not his fault]], but others definitely his) since then. In some ways, he's become the poster child for RunningTheAsylum (with a bit of TyrantTakesTheHelm too).

In many ways, his career as Editor-in-Chief at Marvel parallels JimShooter's career. A promising beginning followed gradually but with ever-increasing rapidity by bad decisions that decrease the quality of the comics and alienate the writers [[YourMileageMayVary by the opinion of many of Marvel fans]].

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-> [[WhatCouldHaveBeen There would be better books on his show]],\\
but [[JoeQuesada Quesada]] [[CosmicRetcon sold them to]] [[OneMoreDay Mephisto]]
--> -- '''[[AtopTheFourthWall Vincent E.L]]''', summarizing the controversies during the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poI5dBNien0 Gunslinger Theme, full version]]

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Editor-in-Chief at MarvelComics between 2000-2011, and a very polarising figure indeed. Started off as an artist, probably best known for his work on {{Daredevil}}, he {{Daredevil}}. He took the EIC editor job in 2000 and, while comic sales have risen since he took over, they are still a shadow of the sales in the SilverAge through the 1980s.

But he has angered a number of fans with many of his recent decisions (some [[MisBlamed not his fault]], but others definitely his) since then. In some ways, he's become the poster child for RunningTheAsylum (with a bit of TyrantTakesTheHelm too).

In many ways, his career as Editor-in-Chief at Marvel parallels JimShooter's career. A promising beginning followed gradually but with ever-increasing rapidity by bad decisions that decrease the quality of the comics and alienate the writers [[YourMileageMayVary by the opinion of many of Marvel fans]].
1980s.



'''Some of his more controversial decisions and happenings as EIC:'''
* The big one is {{Spider-Man}}'s ''OneMoreDay'', which attempts to make Peter Parker YoungerAndHipper by dissolving his marriage to Mary Jane Watson. Fans have derided it because:
** The whole story started because Aunt May got shot as a consequence of Peter revealing his secret identity during ''Comicbook/CivilWar''. So it comes off as Mr. ComesGreatResponsibility trying to dodge the consequences of his actions.
** The Parkers couldn't just divorce because they should be "too young" to be divorcees (either that, or divorcing would set a bad example for the kids). Making a DealWithTheDevil [[SarcasmMode is a much better option]]!
** Peter is [[BasementDweller living with Aunt May again]], with Quesada implying that ThisLoserIsYou.
*** The irony in all of this is the series has actually become ''less'' Family-Friendly since the reboot. Apparently Peter having '''two''' one night stands in a span of 6 issues, and changing his relationship for the last 20 years from married to shacking up, is far more Kid Friendly than a healthy marriage.
** And now he's hooked up with a fairly poorly-written love interest with lots of ShillingTheWesley from MJ, named after Quesada's own daughter.
** Even StanLee, despite supporting the direction in one of his many company-pleasing "afterwords", ended up [[TakeThat giving Amazing Spider-Man the finger]] by spoofing ''Brand New Day'' and [[http://www.bsicomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spidey2.jpg revealing]] it was a ''{{Dallas}}''-style dream Peter was having.
* [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Jean Grey]] coming BackFromTheDead was also "corrected" (by having her killed off, even though it was in a way that the Phoenix Force should have been able to heal her from), despite her massive CharacterDevelopment since then. The miniseries "Endsong" was made that rehashes the drama of the "Dark Phoenix Saga", which was more of a weak attempt to throw a bone at Jean's fans, and flew in the face of the number of times that the previous people of Marvel said that nothing like the Dark Phoenix Saga could ever happen again in the comics.
** Worst, the actual Dark Phoenix Saga [[ExecutiveMeddling wasn't even supposed to end with Jean's death]] back then, so correcting it now just doesn't make sense.

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'''Some of his more controversial decisions and happenings as EIC:'''
editorial decisions:'''
* The big one is {{Spider-Man}}'s ''OneMoreDay'', which attempts to make Peter Parker YoungerAndHipper by dissolving his marriage to Mary Jane Watson. Fans have derided it because:\n** The whole story started because Aunt May got shot as a consequence of Peter revealing his secret identity during ''Comicbook/CivilWar''. So it comes off as Mr. ComesGreatResponsibility trying to dodge the consequences of his actions.\n** The Parkers couldn't just divorce because they should be "too young" to be divorcees (either that, or divorcing would set a bad example for the kids). Making a DealWithTheDevil [[SarcasmMode is a much better option]]!\n** Peter is [[BasementDweller living with Aunt May again]], with Quesada implying that ThisLoserIsYou.\n*** The irony in all of this is the series has actually become ''less'' Family-Friendly since the reboot. Apparently Peter having '''two''' one night stands in a span of 6 issues, and changing his relationship for the last 20 years from married to shacking up, is far more Kid Friendly than a healthy marriage.\n** And now he's hooked up with a fairly poorly-written love interest with lots of ShillingTheWesley from MJ, named after Quesada's own daughter.\n** Even StanLee, despite supporting the direction in one of his many company-pleasing "afterwords", ended up [[TakeThat giving Amazing Spider-Man the finger]] by spoofing ''Brand New Day'' and [[http://www.bsicomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spidey2.jpg revealing]] it was a ''{{Dallas}}''-style dream Peter was having.\n
* [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Jean Grey]] coming BackFromTheDead was also "corrected" (by by having her killed off, even though it was in a way that the Phoenix Force should have been able to heal her from), despite her massive CharacterDevelopment since then. The miniseries "Endsong" was made that rehashes the drama of the "Dark Phoenix Saga", which was more of a weak attempt to throw a bone at Jean's fans, and flew in the face of the number of times that the previous people of Marvel said that nothing like the Dark Phoenix Saga could ever happen again in the comics.
** Worst, the actual Dark Phoenix Saga [[ExecutiveMeddling wasn't even supposed to end with Jean's death]] back then, so correcting it now just doesn't make sense.



** With Jean's permission, from beyond the grave. The dead are [[CharacterDerailment apparently very forgiving]] of women who attempt to steal their husbands before they die.
* Thought the mutant population was too large to be a good "minority" metaphor. This was undone in the {{House of M}} CrisisCrossover.
** Keep in mind that at this time, the books were ''finally'' exploring what it meant for mutants to be a "minority," rather than "a subset of the population regularly hunted down by bigots and giant purple robots." They had their own neighborhoods, culture, music, and fashion. Of course, portraying a fictional minority in ways that would echo with ''actual'' minorities was just too much for Joe...
* He and BrianBendis had [[ComicBook/TheAvengers The Wasp]] killed off, again claiming that her now widowed husband, Hank Pym, is now "more interesting" without her. Note that hose exact words were again also used to excuse killing off Jean and undoing Spider-Man's marriage. Considering that "more interesting" in Pym's case seems to involve taking his dead ex's code name and having an extremely squicky quasi-incestuous relationship with a robot who was originally based on said ex (and reminds people of this fact more than once ''after'' the relationship has started), God only knows what they'll do if Quesada decides he's still not interesting enough.
** Let Ultron take Jocasta away with him, complete with presiding their "marriage"? That's what happened towards the end of ''[[ComicBook/DarkReign Dark Reign]]''.
*** One body. She's got more.

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** With Jean's permission, from beyond the grave. The dead are [[CharacterDerailment apparently very forgiving]] of women who attempt to steal their husbands before they die.
* Thought the mutant population was too large to be a good "minority" metaphor. This was undone in the {{House of M}} CrisisCrossover.
** Keep in mind that at this time, the books were ''finally'' exploring what it meant for mutants to be a "minority," rather than "a subset of the population regularly hunted down by bigots and giant purple robots." They had their own neighborhoods, culture, music, and fashion. Of course, portraying a fictional minority in ways that would echo with ''actual'' minorities was just too much for Joe...
* He and BrianBendis had [[ComicBook/TheAvengers The Wasp]] killed off, again claiming that her now widowed husband, Hank Pym, is now "more interesting" without her. Note that hose exact words were again also used to excuse killing off Jean and undoing Spider-Man's marriage. Considering that "more interesting" in Pym's case seems to involve taking his dead ex's code name and having an extremely squicky quasi-incestuous relationship with a robot who was originally based on said ex (and reminds people of this fact more than once ''after'' the relationship has started), God only knows what they'll do if Quesada decides he's still not interesting enough.
** Let Ultron take Jocasta away with him, complete with presiding their "marriage"? That's what happened towards the end of ''[[ComicBook/DarkReign Dark Reign]]''.
*** One body. She's got more.



*** Such as removing nudity from the Marvel Essentials: Tomb of Dracula.

As noted, he hasn't done all the things that set the fans off. MarkMillar and BrianBendis have done just as many things that angered fans, including the massive ConflictBall of the ComicBook/CivilWar. But the fact is that Quesada allows this to happen. It's probably also worth mentioning that he was the one who hired JephLoeb, despite the fact that the man was obviously still insane with grief after the death of his son and proceeded to run most of the titles he worked on, most notably ''TheUltimates'', into the ground.

Now the company is doing well, but with both Marvel and {{DCU}}, that comes from loads of synergy with movies, toys, and shows. Sales, while up from the 90s, are still down from the glory days of the SilverAge, but that is a problem affecting all corners of the comics industry.

Also, he likes big, big, [[EndingFatigue BIG]] [[CrisisCrossover crossover events]] (his comments about ''Siege'' - readable in its very pages - that is, the GrandFinale of [[{{ComicBook/DarkReign}} Dark Reign]], say that he's very proud of what[[hottip:*: AvengersDisassembled, HouseOfM, [[{{ComicBook/CivilWar}} Civil War]], OneMoreDay, SecretInvasion and Dark Reign itself]] he and other authors have put the MarvelUniverse through, considering it a saga as a whole; luckily, the ending of ''Siege'' [[EndOfAnEra also meant]] [[spoiler: [[AndTheFandomRejoiced the end of the Superhuman Registration Act and a return to a SilverAge-esque status quo]]]]).

He might be the model for Dexter Bennet, the new Daily Bugle's owner... [[spoiler: who is crippled and financially ruined in The Gauntlet's Electro arc. Ouch]].

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*** Such as removing nudity from the Marvel Essentials: Tomb of Dracula.

As noted, he hasn't done all the things that set the fans off. MarkMillar and BrianBendis have done just as many things that angered fans, including the massive ConflictBall of the ComicBook/CivilWar. But the fact is that Quesada allows this to happen. It's probably also worth mentioning that he was the one who hired JephLoeb, despite the fact that the man was obviously still insane with grief after the death of his son and proceeded to run most of the titles he worked on, most notably ''TheUltimates'', into the ground.

Now the company is doing well, but with both Marvel and {{DCU}}, that comes from loads of synergy with movies, toys, and shows. Sales, while up from the 90s, are still down from the glory days of the SilverAge, but that is a problem affecting all corners of the comics industry.

Also, he
* He likes big, big, [[EndingFatigue BIG]] [[CrisisCrossover crossover events]] (his comments about ''Siege'' - readable in its very pages - that is, the GrandFinale of [[{{ComicBook/DarkReign}} Dark Reign]], say that he's very proud of what[[hottip:*: AvengersDisassembled, HouseOfM, [[{{ComicBook/CivilWar}} Civil War]], OneMoreDay, SecretInvasion and Dark Reign itself]] he and other authors have put the MarvelUniverse through, considering it a saga as a whole; luckily, the ending of ''Siege'' [[EndOfAnEra also meant]] [[spoiler: [[AndTheFandomRejoiced the end of the Superhuman Registration Act and a return to a SilverAge-esque status quo]]]]).

events]].

He might be the model for Dexter Bennet, the new Daily Bugle's owner... [[spoiler: who is crippled and financially ruined in The Gauntlet's Electro arc. Ouch]].owner..
7th Feb '11 2:56:56 PM FurryKef
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As noted, he hasn't done all the things that set the fans off. MarkMillar and BrianBendis have done just as many things that angered fans, including the massive ConflictBall of the ComicBook/CivilWar. But the fact is that Quesada allows this to happen. It's probably also worth mentioning that he was the one who hired JephLoeb, despite the fact that the man was obviously still insane with grief after the death of his son and proceeded to run most of the titles he worked on, most notably ''TheUltimates'' into the ground.

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As noted, he hasn't done all the things that set the fans off. MarkMillar and BrianBendis have done just as many things that angered fans, including the massive ConflictBall of the ComicBook/CivilWar. But the fact is that Quesada allows this to happen. It's probably also worth mentioning that he was the one who hired JephLoeb, despite the fact that the man was obviously still insane with grief after the death of his son and proceeded to run most of the titles he worked on, most notably ''TheUltimates'' ''TheUltimates'', into the ground.
6th Feb '11 1:17:43 PM DragonQuestZ
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Also known as: Joey Q, Big Joey Cheese, Joe "Extra Cheesy" Quesadilla, The One Man DorkAge, [[BreadEggsMilkSquick The Prince of Darkness]].



Currently holds the position of Marvel's [[OhCrap Chief Creative Officer]], tasked to [[TemptingFate "ensure that all portrayals of Marvel's characters]] and [[ThisIsGonnaSuck stories remain true to the essence of Marvel history."]]

Guess [[OneMoreDay Peter]] and [[OneMomentInTime Mary-Jane]] [[{{Understatement}} won't get back together anytime soon, huh?]]

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Currently holds the position of Marvel's [[OhCrap Chief Creative Officer]], Officer, tasked to [[TemptingFate "ensure that all portrayals of Marvel's characters]] characters and [[ThisIsGonnaSuck stories remain true to the essence of Marvel history."]]

Guess [[OneMoreDay Peter]] and [[OneMomentInTime Mary-Jane]] [[{{Understatement}} won't get back together anytime soon, huh?]]
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It's worthy of note, also, that the hit Marvel movies tend to draw on the plotlines and assumptions of the glory days of the late 70s and 80s, with only a sprinkling of newer stuff. The first two ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' movies, for example, were drawn almost straight from ChrisClaremont's plots of the early 1980s.



In what might possibly[[hottip:*:the film was released before most of these major controversies involving Quesada, turning it into being a FunnyAneurysmMoment or HilariousInHindsight. Take your pick.]] be a TakeThat, "Jose Quesada" is killed in the movie {{Daredevil}} by the titular character.
---> '''Daredevil''': QUESADA! Time to give the devil his due!






Joe Quesada has a {{Twitter}} account [[http://twitter.com/JoeQuesada here]]. Please do not [[FourChan invade it]], no matter how much he may deserve it.
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23rd Jan '11 1:41:01 AM Aquila89
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Former Editor-in-Chief at MarvelComics (as of January 2011), and a very polarising figure indeed. Started off as an artist, probably best known for his work on {{Daredevil}}, he took the EIC job in 2000 and, while comic sales have risen since he took over, they are still a shadow of the sales in the SilverAge through the 1980s.

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Former Editor-in-Chief at MarvelComics (as of January 2011), between 2000-2011, and a very polarising figure indeed. Started off as an artist, probably best known for his work on {{Daredevil}}, he took the EIC job in 2000 and, while comic sales have risen since he took over, they are still a shadow of the sales in the SilverAge through the 1980s.
21st Jan '11 7:15:58 AM AlexSora89
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Guess [[OneMoreDay Peter]] and [[OneMomentInTime Mary-Jane]] [[{{Understatement}} won't get back together anytime soon, huh?]]
15th Jan '11 5:58:56 PM EcliptorCalrissian
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It's worthy of note, also, that the hit Marvel movies tend to draw on the plotlines and assumptions of the glory days of the late 70s and 80s, with only a sprinkling of newer stuff. The first big ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' movie, for example, was drawn almost straight from ChrisClaremont's plots of the early 1980s.

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It's worthy of note, also, that the hit Marvel movies tend to draw on the plotlines and assumptions of the glory days of the late 70s and 80s, with only a sprinkling of newer stuff. The first big two ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' movie, movies, for example, was were drawn almost straight from ChrisClaremont's plots of the early 1980s.
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