History Main / JerkassDissonance

15th Aug '16 8:08:30 AM DoctorNemesis
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The dissonance can be best summed up thus; where a fictional jerk may possess an intense and devoted fan-base of admirers and may, in-universe, be surrounded by a loyal (if long-suffering) group of friends and followers, in RealLife people considered to be jerks tend to be ostracized, and few choose to willingly associate with them. People in reality are quite intolerant of {{Jerkass}} behaviour, particularly when directed towards them or those they care about, and being considered a jerk means that people don't actually like you very much. For instance, the DeadpanSnarker may sometimes say rude or hurtful things to people around them, but the viewer eats it up because [[RuleOfFunny they're funny]]. If someone said the exact same things to the viewer however, the result wouldn't necessarily be the same.

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The dissonance can be best summed up thus; where a fictional jerk may possess an intense and devoted fan-base of admirers and may, in-universe, be surrounded by a loyal (if long-suffering) group of friends and followers, in RealLife people considered to be jerks tend to be ostracized, and few choose to willingly associate with them. People in reality are quite intolerant of {{Jerkass}} behaviour, particularly when directed towards them or those they care about, and being considered a jerk means that people don't actually like you very much. For instance, the DeadpanSnarker may sometimes say rude or hurtful things to people around them, but the viewer eats it up because [[RuleOfFunny they're funny]]. If someone said the exact same equally rude or hurtful things to the viewer however, chances are good that the result viewer wouldn't necessarily be the same.
quite as amused.
14th Aug '16 3:56:24 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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# Similarly, the {{Jerkass}} may be drawn in more detail than the people he's being a jerk to; we learn a lot about [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]], but [[AMillionIsAStatistic we never meet most of his victims]], so to all intents and purposes they don't ''exist'' in the same way that Darth Vader does for us. Similarly, we tend to find actions they commit against the main characters harder to forgive than actions they commit against minor / background characters, because [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality they're affecting people we care about more]].
# It's said that TheVillainMakesThePlot. That is, the villain is the driving force of the story's conflict; the more interesting and dynamic the villain, the more interesting the story. This has the effect that people can gravitate to the villain, especially if the hero is comparatively less interesting.

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# Similarly, the {{Jerkass}} may be drawn in more detail than the people he's being a jerk to; we learn a lot about [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]], but [[AMillionIsAStatistic we never meet most of his victims]], so to all intents and purposes they don't ''exist'' in the same way that Darth Vader does for us. Similarly, we tend to find actions they commit against the main characters harder to forgive than actions they commit against minor / background minor/background characters, because [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality they're affecting people we care about more]].
# It's said that TheVillainMakesThePlot.[[TheHeavy The Villain Makes the Plot]]. That is, the villain is the driving force of the story's conflict; the more interesting and dynamic the villain, the more interesting the story. This has the effect that people can gravitate to the villain, especially if the hero is comparatively less interesting.



# ComedicSociopathy plays a part; {{Jerkass}} behaviour is funny... so long as it's happening to someone else.

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# ComedicSociopathy plays a part; {{Jerkass}} behaviour is funny... so long as it's happening to someone else. As Creator/MelBrooks put it:
-->''"Tragedy is when ''I'' cut my finger. Comedy is when ''you'' fall into an open sewer and die."''



# In works with a {{Designated Hero}}, the character's behaviour may not actually be any worse than the good guys', leading to a backlash among fans who don't see why they're considered so bad while the heroes get a more-or-less free pass.

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# In works with a {{Designated Hero}}, DesignatedHero, the character's behaviour may not actually be any worse than the good guys', leading to a backlash among fans who don't see why they're considered so bad while the heroes get a more-or-less free pass.



** In fact, sometimes a more realistic jerk like a JerkJock or an AlphaBitch can be ''more'' hated than an outright villain, because their actions call up things that the audience might have had happened to them, whereas "a guy is trying to TakeOverTheWorld, let's go stop him!" is abstract.

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** In fact, sometimes a more realistic jerk like a JerkJock or an AlphaBitch can be ''more'' hated than an outright villain, because their actions call up things that the audience might have had happened to them, whereas "a guy is trying to TakeOverTheWorld, let's go stop him!" is more abstract.
28th Apr '16 8:54:04 AM Dechstreme
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* RonTheDeathEater: A curious inversion, wherein a typically non-{{Jerkass}} character is twisted in order to be considered one, usually as a result of an attempt to balance a DracoInLeatherPants situation wherein the fandom is downplaying the faults of an actual {{Jerkass}} character who exists in opposition to the former character.

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* RonTheDeathEater: A curious inversion, wherein a typically non-{{Jerkass}} character is twisted in order to be considered one, usually as a result of an attempt to balance a DracoInLeatherPants situation wherein the fandom is downplaying the faults of an actual {{Jerkass}} character who exists in opposition to the former character.character, or simply because the writer hates the character and wants an excuse to be able to destroy them in the writing.
17th Apr '16 8:05:15 PM Pastykake
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It seems like in fiction, certain characters can get away with a lot of bad behaviour without losing the loyalty of the audience. Characters who you would ''think'' would be loathed and hated because of their actions can become the objects of the [[MagnificentBastard admiration]] and even [[DracoInLeatherPants lust]] of the audience. Sometimes [[AntiHero intentional]], [[MisaimedFandom often not]], in either case fictional {{Jerkass}}es get a lot of leeway. A principle behind many a MagnificentBastard, DracoInLeatherPants or MisaimedFandom, JerkassDissonance occurs when the audience excuses the behaviour of a fictional character when it would most definitely ''not'' condone similar behaviour in real life.

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It seems like in fiction, certain characters can get away with a lot of bad behaviour without losing the loyalty of the audience. Characters who whom you would ''think'' would be loathed and hated because of their actions can become the objects of the [[MagnificentBastard admiration]] and even [[DracoInLeatherPants lust]] of the audience. Sometimes [[AntiHero intentional]], [[MisaimedFandom often not]], in either case fictional {{Jerkass}}es get a lot of leeway. A principle behind many a MagnificentBastard, DracoInLeatherPants or MisaimedFandom, JerkassDissonance Jerkass Dissonance occurs when the audience excuses the behaviour of a fictional character when it would most definitely ''not'' condone similar behaviour in real life.



# The reader is not affected by the consequences of the actions depicted. Whilst the behaviour of a real life bastard can have a direct impact on you, in fiction it's happening to someone else, and since they don't really exist it's not really happening to them either. Their behaviour is thus easier to forgive or overlook.

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# The reader is not affected by the consequences of the actions depicted. Whilst Whereas the behaviour of a real life bastard can have a direct impact on you, in fiction it's happening to someone else, and since they don't really exist it's not really happening to them them, either. Their The behaviour is thus easier to forgive or overlook.



# The Jerkass character [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic may primarily pick on]] [[TakeThatScrappy the character(s) who no one reading likes anyway.]]

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# The Jerkass character [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic may primarily pick on]] [[TakeThatScrappy the character(s) who whom no one reading likes anyway.]]
5th Feb '16 10:21:56 AM Cakeman
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* UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist

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* UnsympatheticComedyProtagonistUnsympatheticComedyProtagonist: When the Jerkass is funny.
5th Jan '16 5:12:25 PM DoctorNemesis
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Of course, the scale varies. [[DeadpanSnarker Snarky put-downs]] or [[EscalatingWar irritating practical jokes]] might be annoying, but it's not necessarily unforgivable conduct, in fiction or in real life. The Dissonance really begins to take strange effect when the character who is the subject of the fandom is engaging in conduct which, in RealLife, would see them comfortably identified as one of history's greatest monsters. There's reasons why people such as UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler, JosefStalin, [[SerialKiller Jeffrey Dahmer and]] [[MonsterClown John Wayne Gacy]] are considered some of the most hated and evil figures in history, but there are certain fictional characters who can do the same as them and more besides, but no matter how far they dive over the MoralEventHorizon someone, somewhere, will be rushing to add it to the CrowningMomentOfAwesome list on this very site.

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Of course, the scale varies. [[DeadpanSnarker Snarky put-downs]] or [[EscalatingWar irritating practical jokes]] might be annoying, annoying or hurtful, but it's not necessarily unforgivable conduct, in fiction or in real life. The Dissonance really begins to take strange effect when the character who is the subject of the fandom is engaging in conduct which, in RealLife, would see them comfortably identified as one of history's greatest monsters. There's reasons why people such as UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler, JosefStalin, [[SerialKiller Jeffrey Dahmer and]] [[MonsterClown John Wayne Gacy]] are considered some of the most hated and evil figures in history, but there are certain fictional characters who can do the same as them and more besides, but no matter how far they dive over the MoralEventHorizon someone, somewhere, will be rushing to add it to the CrowningMomentOfAwesome list on this very site.
5th Jan '16 5:10:42 PM DoctorNemesis
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# The Jerkass character [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic picks on]] [[TakeThatScrappy the scrappy.]]

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# The Jerkass character [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic picks may primarily pick on]] [[TakeThatScrappy the scrappy.character(s) who no one reading likes anyway.]]
2nd Apr '15 12:58:08 PM PhiSat
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# The Jerkass character [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic picks on]] [[TakeThatScrappy the scrappy.]]
22nd Dec '14 12:50:25 PM TheUnsquished
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Of course, the scale varies. [[DeadpanSnarker Snarky put-downs]] or [[EscalatingWar irritating practical jokes]] might be annoying, but it's not necessarily unforgivable conduct, in fiction or in real life. The Dissonance really begins to take strange effect when the character who is the subject of the fandom is engaging in conduct which, in RealLife, would see them comfortably identified as one of history's greatest monsters. There's reasons why people such as AdolfHitler, JosefStalin, [[SerialKiller Jeffrey Dahmer and]] [[MonsterClown John Wayne Gacy]] are considered some of the most hated and evil figures in history, but there are certain fictional characters who can do the same as them and more besides, but no matter how far they dive over the MoralEventHorizon someone, somewhere, will be rushing to add it to the CrowningMomentOfAwesome list on this very site.

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Of course, the scale varies. [[DeadpanSnarker Snarky put-downs]] or [[EscalatingWar irritating practical jokes]] might be annoying, but it's not necessarily unforgivable conduct, in fiction or in real life. The Dissonance really begins to take strange effect when the character who is the subject of the fandom is engaging in conduct which, in RealLife, would see them comfortably identified as one of history's greatest monsters. There's reasons why people such as AdolfHitler, UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler, JosefStalin, [[SerialKiller Jeffrey Dahmer and]] [[MonsterClown John Wayne Gacy]] are considered some of the most hated and evil figures in history, but there are certain fictional characters who can do the same as them and more besides, but no matter how far they dive over the MoralEventHorizon someone, somewhere, will be rushing to add it to the CrowningMomentOfAwesome list on this very site.
15th Dec '14 10:27:52 PM mazaka
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The dissonance can be best summed up thus; where a fictional jerk may possess an intense and devoted fan-base of admirers and may, in-universe, be surrounded by a loyal (if long-suffering) group of friends and followers, in RealLife people considered to be jerks tend to be ostracized, and few choose to willingly associate with them. People in reality are quite intolerant of {{Jerkass}} behaviour, particularly when directed towards them or those they care about, and being considered a jerk means that people don't actually like you very much. For instance, the DeadpanSnarker may sometimes say rude or hurtful things to people around them, but the viewer eats it up because [[RuleOfFunny they're funny]]. If someone said the exact same things to the viewer, however, the result wouldn't necessarily be the same.

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The dissonance can be best summed up thus; where a fictional jerk may possess an intense and devoted fan-base of admirers and may, in-universe, be surrounded by a loyal (if long-suffering) group of friends and followers, in RealLife people considered to be jerks tend to be ostracized, and few choose to willingly associate with them. People in reality are quite intolerant of {{Jerkass}} behaviour, particularly when directed towards them or those they care about, and being considered a jerk means that people don't actually like you very much. For instance, the DeadpanSnarker may sometimes say rude or hurtful things to people around them, but the viewer eats it up because [[RuleOfFunny they're funny]]. If someone said the exact same things to the viewer, viewer however, the result wouldn't necessarily be the same.
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