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19th Dec '17 1:25:53 PM rjd1922
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* If you've only seen the [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist 2003 anime adaptation]] of ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' and haven't read the manga, you might feel this way about the remake ''[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood]]''. Sadly, some who feel this way haven't watched past the first 13 episodes, which is when it gets to the part where the 2003 anime started being different from the manga. Those who read the manga, on the other hand, might find adaptations like ''Brotherhood'' pointless for this reason - they don't add anything to the manga you've already read. See also the Sailor Moon Crystal example.
* The {{Anime/Pokemon}} anime gets hit with this a lot, in the west at least. While it still has its fans, people who grew up with the show initially tend to find the anime to be predictable and bland, citing the lack of a strong central story and the formulaic nature of the episodes.

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* If you've only seen the [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist 2003 anime adaptation]] of ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' and haven't read the manga, you might feel this way about the remake ''[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood]]''. Sadly, some who feel this way haven't watched past the first 13 episodes, which is when it gets to the part where the 2003 anime started being different from the manga. Those who read the manga, on the other hand, might find adaptations like ''Brotherhood'' pointless for this reason - they don't add anything to the manga you've already read. See also the Sailor ''Sailor Moon Crystal Crystal'' example.
* The {{Anime/Pokemon}} ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' anime gets hit with this a lot, in the west at least. While it still has its fans, people who grew up with the show initially tend to find the anime to be predictable and bland, citing the lack of a strong central story and the formulaic nature of the episodes.



** There's a fair number of people who feel that a ShotForShotRemake of a [[Manga/SailorMoon manga]] they'd already read, covering the same territory as the [[Series/PrettyGuardianSailorMoon live action series]] and the first season of the old [[Anime/SailorMoon anime]], wasn't what they got excited for when they first heard ''Sailor Moon'' was coming back.

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** There's a fair number of people who feel that a ShotForShotRemake of a [[Manga/SailorMoon manga]] they'd already read, covering the same territory as the [[Series/PrettyGuardianSailorMoon live action live-action series]] and the first season of the old [[Anime/SailorMoon anime]], wasn't what they got excited for when they first heard ''Sailor Moon'' was coming back.
11th Dec '17 1:05:12 PM urutapu
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More often this is a video game trope, due to the nature of the industry. Sports games in particular are targeted because they are based on a game that already exists with set rules; there are only so many ways to change the gameplay and user interface. The situation isn't very compatible with the companies' insistence on releasing new versions every year.

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More often this is a video game trope, due to the nature of the industry. Sports games in particular are targeted because they are based on a game that already exists with set rules; there are only so many ways to change or improve the gameplay and gameplay, user interface.interface, and physics. The situation isn't very compatible with the companies' insistence on releasing new versions every year.
30th Nov '17 9:10:11 PM mizorefan
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** The Fire/Fighting-type is very unpopular among fans since it's shared among the final forms of ''three'' starter families (Blaziken, Inernape and Emboar), all introduced one after the other. With seven generations of ''Pokémon'', this means that just under ''half'' of the Fire-type starters all become Fire/Fighting, leaving very little in the way for inspiration and variation.

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** The Fire/Fighting-type is very unpopular among fans since it's shared among the final forms of ''three'' starter families (Blaziken, Inernape and Emboar), all introduced one after the other.other (and despite being a Fire/Dark Pokémon, the final form of Litten's line is a "cat wrestler"). With seven generations of ''Pokémon'', this means that just under ''half'' of the Fire-type starters all become Fire/Fighting, leaving very little in the way for inspiration and variation.
** This is the main complain about ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon''. Most of changes are reserved to the last part of game, which could had been easily added into a DLC for first game. Fans are divided about it.
24th Nov '17 12:12:06 PM comicwriter
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* ''Film/JusticeLeague'' was criticized for being too similar to ''Film/TheAvengers2012''. Both movies revolve around a team of superheroes (the Justice League/the Avengers) being assembled to stop a horned villain (Steppenwolf[=/=]Comicbook/{{Loki}}) who has come to Earth to steal a cube-shaped {{MacGuffin}} (the Mother Boxes/the Tesseract) on the behalf of a mysterious cosmic tyrant (Comicbook/{{Darkseid}}[=/=]Comicbook/{{Thanos}}), which ultimately leads to a massive final battle against an army of CGI aliens (the Parademons/the Chitauri). ''[[https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/11/20/a-justice-league-that-copied-the-avengers-was-doomed-to-fail/#41f5d5409832 Forbes]]'' speculated that this may have ultimately hurt the movie's box office, as potential audiences may have felt ''Justice League'' looked like an inferior knock-off of ''The Avengers''.

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* ''Film/JusticeLeague'' was criticized for being too similar to ''Film/TheAvengers2012''. Both movies revolve around a team of superheroes (the Justice League/the Avengers) being assembled to stop a horned villain (Steppenwolf[=/=]Comicbook/{{Loki}}) who has come to Earth to steal a cube-shaped {{MacGuffin}} (the Mother Boxes/the Tesseract) on the behalf of a mysterious cosmic tyrant (Comicbook/{{Darkseid}}[=/=]Comicbook/{{Thanos}}), which ultimately leads to a massive final battle against an army of CGI aliens (the Parademons/the Chitauri). ''[[https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/11/20/a-justice-league-that-copied-the-avengers-was-doomed-to-fail/#41f5d5409832 Forbes]]'' speculated that this may have ultimately hurt the movie's box office, as potential audiences may have felt ''Justice League'' looked like an inferior knock-off of ''The Avengers''.
24th Nov '17 12:11:01 PM comicwriter
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* ''Film/JusticeLeague'' was criticized for being too similar to ''Film/TheAvengers2012''. Both movies revolve around a team of superheroes (the Justice League/the Avengers) being assembled to stop a horned villain (Steppenwolf[=/=]Comicbook/{{Loki}}) who has come to Earth to steal a cube-shaped {{MacGuffin}} (the Mother Boxes/the Tesseract) on the behalf of a mysterious cosmic tyrant (Comicbook/{{Darkseid}}[=/=]Comicbook/{{Thanos}}), which ultimately leads to a massive final battle against an army of CGI aliens (the Parademons/the Chitauri). ''[[https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/11/20/a-justice-league-that-copied-the-avengers-was-doomed-to-fail/#41f5d5409832 Forbes]]'' speculated that this may have ultimately hurt the movie's box office, as potential audiences may have felt ''Justice League'' looked like an inferior knock-off of ''The Avengers''.
11th Nov '17 9:59:09 PM rjd1922
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** ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' had this even worse, described as just New Super Mario Bros. for DS put on Wii. What about the better graphical rendering, new platforming obstacles not possible on DS or previous consoles, or the fact that the game had four player multiplayer in all its levels in addition to a fairly large VS mode?

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** ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' had this even worse, described as just New ''New Super Mario Bros. Bros.'' for DS put on Wii. What about the better graphical rendering, new platforming obstacles not possible on DS or previous consoles, or the fact that the game had four player multiplayer in all its levels in addition to a fairly large VS mode?
8th Nov '17 9:38:11 PM AgentTasmania
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** ''VideoGame/TheSims4'' received much stronger accusation of this, since the most notable differences from 3 were the omissions.
6th Nov '17 6:29:21 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' received criticism for three things: the nonsensical plot, [[spoiler:killing off the fan favorite [[DecoyProtagonist Kaede]]]], but the only one related to the gameplay was its inability to shake up the stagnating and predictable StrictlyFormula followed by the previous installments. Several murder cases became predictable based on the fact that they didn't tried anything new on the game besides [[spoiler:killing a protagonist]]. While this was not a problem in the previous game, since the parallels between the first and the second killing game were actually a plot point, the re-utilization of the formula was received as poorly-written and unoriginal. Besides that, FranchiseOriginalSin was very strong on this installment, with several recurring elements, such as [[spoiler:the bland male protagonist and the unsympathetic murderer]] becoming annoying to fans.

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* ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' received criticism for three things: the nonsensical plot, [[spoiler:killing off [[spoiler:pulling a DecoyProtagonist with the fan favorite [[DecoyProtagonist Kaede]]]], PlayerCharacter Kaede and replacing her with a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for previous player characters]], but the only one related to the gameplay was its inability to shake up the stagnating and predictable StrictlyFormula followed by the previous installments. Several murder cases became predictable based on the fact that they didn't tried anything new on the game besides [[spoiler:killing a protagonist]]. While this was not a problem in the previous game, since the parallels between the first and the second killing game were actually a plot point, the re-utilization of the formula was received as poorly-written and unoriginal. Besides that, FranchiseOriginalSin was very strong on this installment, with several recurring elements, such as [[spoiler:the bland male protagonist and the unsympathetic murderer]] becoming annoying to fans.
1st Nov '17 7:04:05 PM DoctorCooper
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* The first ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'' game was given a low rating by IGN simply because it felt too much like ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' (and yet the fanbase feels it isn't enough like it...). The series in general tend to get flak for changing very few things from sequel to sequel (though ''VideoGame/MegaManX 7'' proved why that's a good thing).
** Well, later NES ''VideoGame/MegaMan'' games were a victim of this too. Until ''9'' where everyone immediately begun to dry-hump them ''for'' being NES-like, [[Main/HereWeGoAgain then criticized]] ''10'' because it was just like ''9''.

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* The first ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'' game was given a low rating by IGN simply because it felt too much like ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' (and yet the fanbase feels it isn't enough like it...). The series in general tend to get flak for changing very few things from sequel to sequel (though ''VideoGame/MegaManX 7'' ''VideoGame/MegaManX7'' proved why that's a good thing).
** * Well, later NES ''VideoGame/MegaMan'' games were a victim of this too. Until ''9'' where everyone immediately begun to dry-hump them ''for'' being NES-like, [[Main/HereWeGoAgain then criticized]] ''10'' because it was just like ''9''.''9''.
* ''VideoGame/MegaMan6'' is criticized because it recycles the HijackedByGanon concept of the two immediate previous games.
28th Oct '17 4:03:26 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* Some fans of the ''VideoGame/EtrianOdyssey'' series are disappointed that ''Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth'' is too back-to-its-roots, having ditched the overworld exploration of the previous two non-spinoff games and the Story Modes of the ''[[VideoGameRemake Etrian Odyssey Untold]]'' games.
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