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21st Jun '17 1:53:43 AM Malachi108
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* ''Film/TransformersFilmSeries'': The first movie was generally well received by critics and fans alike. With each subsequent sequel however, a common major complaint was that they basically repeat the first film from the plot-points to use of Macguffins to the character types, with critical scores reflecting that. By the fifth film people were able to accurately [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctembQrH_0k recap the entire movie without watching it]] just by assuming it will remain StrictlyFormula.
17th Jun '17 5:56:26 PM nombretomado
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* When ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' was announced to be on the [=PS2=], and using the exact same engine and practically the same system as ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'', it met with much skepticism from fans that they were just cashing in on P3 (especially with P3:FES, a remake of P3, also being announced), instead of pushing the game forward into the next generation with a [=PS3=] or {{Xbox 360}} title. Of course, then the game came out.

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* When ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' was announced to be on the [=PS2=], and using the exact same engine and practically the same system as ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'', it met with much skepticism from fans that they were just cashing in on P3 (especially with P3:FES, a remake of P3, [=P3=], also being announced), instead of pushing the game forward into the next generation with a [=PS3=] or {{Xbox 360}} UsefulNotes/Xbox360 title. Of course, then the game came out.
1st Jun '17 11:57:10 PM LinTaylor
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* The ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' universe gets criticized for rehashing old character & mech designs. On the other hand, when they decided to change the design in ''Anime/TurnAGundam'', it was met with heavy derision from the community.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' universe franchise gets criticized for rehashing old character & mech designs. On because fans feel that certain {{Homage}}s have been thoroughly beaten to death by over-use. Prime examples include FallingIntoTheCockpit, the other hand, when they decided to change the design in ''Anime/TurnAGundam'', it was met Doomed Psychic Girlfriend, and more recently "UNDERSTANDING"[[note]]The trend of modern characters who insist upon negotiating with heavy derision from the community.and proselytizing to every single enemy[[/note]].
25th May '17 4:16:31 PM jtierney50
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** ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' seems to be running into this criticism, as well. It has been accused of being little more than a [[MissionPackSequel game mod to number three,]] due largely to sharing the same engine and many art-assets. [[note]]Since the release of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', however, the game is now praised for its open ended approach to its many unique quests, many roleplaying experiences and opportunities, and complex storytelling, proving that [[BrokenBase the Fallout fandom]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks is nearly impossible to please]].[[/note]]

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** ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' seems to be running into this criticism, as well. It has been accused of being little more than a [[MissionPackSequel game mod to number three,]] due largely to sharing the same engine and many art-assets. [[note]]Since the release of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', however, the game is now praised for its open ended approach to its many unique quests, many diverse roleplaying experiences and opportunities, and complex storytelling, proving that [[BrokenBase the Fallout fandom]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks is nearly impossible to please]].[[/note]]
25th May '17 4:15:15 PM jtierney50
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** VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas seems to be running into this criticism, as well. It has been accused of being little more than a [[MissionPackSequel game mod to number three,]] due largely to sharing the same engine and many art-assets.

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** VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' seems to be running into this criticism, as well. It has been accused of being little more than a [[MissionPackSequel game mod to number three,]] due largely to sharing the same engine and many art-assets. [[note]]Since the release of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', however, the game is now praised for its open ended approach to its many unique quests, many roleplaying experiences and opportunities, and complex storytelling, proving that [[BrokenBase the Fallout fandom]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks is nearly impossible to please]].[[/note]]
16th May '17 11:36:28 PM fusilcontrafusil
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* ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wars:]]'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to the original ''Star Wars'' film, aka ''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to [[PanderingToTheBase both hardcore Original Trilogy fans for nostalgia]] as well as [[SmallReferencePools non-fans whose main exposure to the franchise is the Original Trilogy.]] For the rest of the ''Star Wars'' fandom, copying ''A New Hope'' is considered to be the biggest in the list of things the film copied among which are elements of the very Expanded Universe that it ignored. And for many of these fans, the copying is only symptomatic of wider problems because of ''how'' the film went about it: with a HappyEndingOverride, any progress feeling negated, and far lesser characters and situations retreading now-iconic ones - all hinging on the previous protagonists grabbing the IdiotBall for allowing the same things to continue or happen again, so that the film can be like ''A New Hope'', logic be damned.

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* ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wars:]]'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to the original ''Star Wars'' film, aka ''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to [[PanderingToTheBase both hardcore Original Trilogy fans for nostalgia]] as well as [[SmallReferencePools non-fans whose main exposure to the franchise is the Original Trilogy.]] For the rest of the ''Star Wars'' fandom, copying ''A New Hope'' is considered to be the biggest in the list of things the film copied among which are elements of the very Expanded Universe that it ignored. And for many of these fans, the copying is only symptomatic of the wider problems because of ''how'' problem that the film went about it: first two trilogies now feel [[ShaggyDogStory pointless]] with a HappyEndingOverride, any progress feeling negated, and far lesser characters and situations retreading now-iconic ones - ones, all hinging on the previous protagonists grabbing the IdiotBall for allowing the same things to continue or happen again, so that the film can be like ''A New Hope'', logic be damned.again.
16th May '17 11:21:29 PM fusilcontrafusil
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* ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wars:]]'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to the original ''Star Wars'' film, aka ''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to [[PanderingToTheBase both hardcore Original Trilogy fans for nostalgia]] as well as [[SmallReferencePools non-fans whose main exposure to the franchise is the Original Trilogy.]] For the rest of the ''Star Wars'' fandom, copying ''A New Hope'' is considered to be the biggest in the list of things the film copied among which are elements of the very Expanded Universe that it ignored. And for many of these fans, it's not so much the copying that is the problem but ''how'' the film went about it: with a HappyEndingOverride, any progress feeling negated, and far lesser characters and situations retreading now-iconic ones - all hinging on the previous protagonists grabbing the IdiotBall for allowing the same things to continue or happen again, so that the film can be like ''A New Hope'', logic be damned.

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* ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wars:]]'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to the original ''Star Wars'' film, aka ''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to [[PanderingToTheBase both hardcore Original Trilogy fans for nostalgia]] as well as [[SmallReferencePools non-fans whose main exposure to the franchise is the Original Trilogy.]] For the rest of the ''Star Wars'' fandom, copying ''A New Hope'' is considered to be the biggest in the list of things the film copied among which are elements of the very Expanded Universe that it ignored. And for many of these fans, it's not so much the copying that is the problem but only symptomatic of wider problems because of ''how'' the film went about it: with a HappyEndingOverride, any progress feeling negated, and far lesser characters and situations retreading now-iconic ones - all hinging on the previous protagonists grabbing the IdiotBall for allowing the same things to continue or happen again, so that the film can be like ''A New Hope'', logic be damned.
16th May '17 11:19:03 PM fusilcontrafusil
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* ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wars:]]'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to the original ''Star Wars'' film, aka ''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to [[PanderingToTheBase both hardcore Original Trilogy fans for nostalgia]] as well as [[SmallReferencePools non-fans whose main exposure to the franchise is the Original Trilogy.]] For the rest of the ''Star Wars'' fandom, copying ''A New Hope'' is considered to be the biggest in the list of things the film copied among which are elements of the very Expanded Universe that it ignored. And for many of these fans, it's not so much the copying that is the problem but ''how'' the film went about it: with a HappyEndingOverride, any progress feeling negated, and far lesser characters and situations retreading now-iconic ones - all hinging on the previous protagonists grabbing the IdiotBall for allowing the same things to continue or happen again.

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* ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wars:]]'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to the original ''Star Wars'' film, aka ''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to [[PanderingToTheBase both hardcore Original Trilogy fans for nostalgia]] as well as [[SmallReferencePools non-fans whose main exposure to the franchise is the Original Trilogy.]] For the rest of the ''Star Wars'' fandom, copying ''A New Hope'' is considered to be the biggest in the list of things the film copied among which are elements of the very Expanded Universe that it ignored. And for many of these fans, it's not so much the copying that is the problem but ''how'' the film went about it: with a HappyEndingOverride, any progress feeling negated, and far lesser characters and situations retreading now-iconic ones - all hinging on the previous protagonists grabbing the IdiotBall for allowing the same things to continue or happen again.again, so that the film can be like ''A New Hope'', logic be damned.
16th May '17 11:13:17 PM fusilcontrafusil
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* ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wars:]]'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to the original ''Star Wars'' film, aka ''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to [[PanderingToTheBase both hardcore Original Trilogy fans for nostalgia]] as well as [[SmallReferencePools non-fans whose main exposure to the franchise is the Original Trilogy.]] For the rest of the ''Star Wars'' fandom, copying ''A New Hope'' is considered to be the biggest in the list of things the film copied among which are elements of the very Expanded Universe that it ignored. And for many of these fans, it's not so much the copying that is the problem but ''how'' the film went about it, with far lesser characters and situations retreading now-iconic ones.

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* ''[[Franchise/StarWars Star Wars:]]'' ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to the original ''Star Wars'' film, aka ''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to [[PanderingToTheBase both hardcore Original Trilogy fans for nostalgia]] as well as [[SmallReferencePools non-fans whose main exposure to the franchise is the Original Trilogy.]] For the rest of the ''Star Wars'' fandom, copying ''A New Hope'' is considered to be the biggest in the list of things the film copied among which are elements of the very Expanded Universe that it ignored. And for many of these fans, it's not so much the copying that is the problem but ''how'' the film went about it, it: with a HappyEndingOverride, any progress feeling negated, and far lesser characters and situations retreading now-iconic ones.ones - all hinging on the previous protagonists grabbing the IdiotBall for allowing the same things to continue or happen again.
30th Apr '17 4:11:00 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* One of the biggest complaints about ''VideoGame/WanganMidnight Maximum Tune 5''[='=]s English-language versions is that [[BadExportForYou unlike the Japanese version]], the game feels less like a sequel and more like an UpdatedRerelease of ''4'': it only adds one new map (Mt. Taikan) rather than three (Sub-center Shibuya/Shinjuku and Sub-center Ikebukuro as well), it doesn't have the Maxi G currency system, and it uses the same "Entry" background music as ''Maximum Tune 4''. Non-Japan ''Maximum Tune 5'' even runs on the same Namco [=ESA1=] hardware as ''4'', unlike the Japanese version which uses Namco's newer [=ESA3=]. These problems would eventually be addressed in ''Maximum Tune 5 DX'', which features roughly the same content on both sides (thus adding the various features and maps that were excluded from non-Japan ''[=MT5=]'').

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* One of the biggest complaints about ''VideoGame/WanganMidnight Maximum Tune 5''[='=]s English-language versions is that [[BadExportForYou unlike the Japanese version]], the game feels less like a sequel and more like an UpdatedRerelease of ''4'': it only adds one new map (Mt. Taikan) rather than three (Sub-center Shibuya/Shinjuku and Sub-center Ikebukuro as well), it doesn't have the Maxi G currency system, and it uses the same "Entry" background music as ''Maximum Tune 4''. Non-Japan ''Maximum Tune 5'' even runs on the same Namco [=ESA1=] hardware as ''4'', unlike the Japanese version which uses Namco's newer [=ESA3=]. These problems would eventually be addressed in ''Maximum Tune 5 DX'', which features roughly the same content on in both sides the Japanese and international versions (thus adding the various features and maps that were excluded from non-Japan ''[=MT5=]'').
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