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29th Apr '16 3:09:16 AM Adept
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* ''{{Crackdown}} 2'' takes place in an identical environment to the original--they literally copy and pasted most of the city, and in many ways it lacks the charm of the original, even with the nightly ZombieApocalypse that occurs. Many were not pleased at how little was new.
* One of the ''in-game'' problems of ''HeavyWeapon''. After going through the first nine levels and defeating the first nine bosses, you are treated to a YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle scene. After that, you have to go through the first nine levels with harder enemies and defeat the first nine bosses '''again''', except that most of them are just rehashes with more health and faster speed.

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* ''{{Crackdown}} ''VideoGame/{{Crackdown}} 2'' takes place in an identical environment to the original--they literally copy and pasted most of the city, and in many ways it lacks the charm of the original, even with the nightly ZombieApocalypse that occurs. Many were not pleased at how little was new.
* One of the ''in-game'' problems of ''HeavyWeapon''.''VideoGame/HeavyWeapon''. After going through the first nine levels and defeating the first nine bosses, you are treated to a YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle scene. After that, you have to go through the first nine levels with harder enemies and defeat the first nine bosses '''again''', except that most of them are just rehashes with more health and faster speed.



* ''GoldenSunDarkDawn'' got some of this, with many people complaining that it felt like Camelot stapled the first two games together, without any of their original charm.

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* ''GoldenSunDarkDawn'' ''VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn'' got some of this, with many people complaining that it felt like Camelot stapled the first two games together, without any of their original charm.
26th Apr '16 12:30:13 AM Killerikala
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** BatmanArkhamKnight is also accused of this, as some feel that the gameplay is too similar to the previous games. On the other hand, people have complained about more or less every change by this point (Batmobile, Fear takedowns, throw counters etc.) so it crosses over with TheyChangedItNowItSucks and HypocriticalFandom.
16th Apr '16 6:34:26 PM chickenpie999
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* While the film was undeniably a very concentrated effort to WinBackTheCrowd, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism from those who say it swung too far away from the prequel trilogy, becoming an overly safe reimagining of ''Film/ANewHope''. There are several thematic and story parallels between the two movies and the criticism is that it did not try to find its own voice in the franchise, instead pandering heavily towards those looking for nostalgia.

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* While the film was undeniably a very concentrated effort to WinBackTheCrowd, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' *''Film/TheForceAwakens'' receives the bulk of its criticism for being too similar to a''Film/ANewHope''. From the perspective of some film critics, this is considered "playing it safe" in order to pander to both hardcore OT fans for nostalgia as well as non-fans of which the most recognizable works from those who say it swung too far away from Star Wars are OT. For rest of Star Wars fandom copying A New Hope is considered to be the prequel trilogy, becoming an overly safe reimagining biggest in the list of ''Film/ANewHope''. There things the film copied among which are several thematic and story parallels between elements of the two movies and the criticism is very Expanded Universe that it did not try to find its own voice in the franchise, instead pandering heavily towards those looking for nostalgia.ignored.
16th Apr '16 11:16:18 AM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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* While the ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'' spinoff series ''WesternAinimation/TotalDramaPresentsTheRidonculousRace'' is usually well regarded among a majority of the franchise's fanbase, there is a vocal minority of people who didn't like it with this trope being the main reason by inheriting a lot of the problems from the later seasons of the original series. Said problems include characters behaving inconsistently from episode to episode, [[ArcFatigue plots bring dragged out too long]] (usually of [[RomanticPlotTumor the romantic kind]]), a good number of the show's cast either being [[FlatCharacter underdeveloped]] or unlikable, and episodes [[AssPull randomly being a non-elimination round]] depending on the team that happens to come in last place.

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* While the ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'' spinoff series ''WesternAinimation/TotalDramaPresentsTheRidonculousRace'' ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaPresentsTheRidonculousRace'' is usually well regarded among a majority of the franchise's fanbase, there is a vocal minority of people who didn't like it with this trope being the main reason by inheriting a lot of the problems from the later seasons of the original series. Said problems include characters behaving inconsistently from episode to episode, [[ArcFatigue plots bring dragged out too long]] (usually of [[RomanticPlotTumor the romantic kind]]), a good number of the show's cast either being [[FlatCharacter underdeveloped]] or unlikable, and episodes [[AssPull randomly being a non-elimination round]] depending on the team that happens to come in last place.
15th Apr '16 3:19:17 PM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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* While the ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'' spinoff series ''WesternAinimation/TotalDramaPresentsTheRidonculousRace'' is usually well regarded among a majority of the franchise's fanbase, there is a vocal minority of people who didn't like it with this trope being the main reason by inheriting a lot of the problems from the later seasons of the original series. Said problems include characters behaving inconsistently from episode to episode, [[ArcFatigue plots bring dragged out too long]] (usually of [[RomanticPlotTumor the romantic kind]]), a good number of the show's cast either being [[FlatCharacter underdeveloped]] or unlikable, and episodes [[AssPull randomly being a non-elimination round]] depending on the team that happens to come in last place.
5th Apr '16 8:14:59 AM Animeking1108
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** While the gameplay was a welcome change from ''Persona 3,'' the story and characters of ''Persona 4'' were accused of being too similar to its predecessor.
17th Mar '16 1:38:23 PM Hossmeister
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* Before it became a long-loved classic of 64-bit gaming, ''BanjoKazooie'' was accused of being a ''Mario'' clone simply because it was a 3D platforming game.

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* Before it became a long-loved classic of 64-bit gaming, ''BanjoKazooie'' 'VideoGame/BanjoKazooie'' was accused of being a ''Mario'' clone simply because it was a 3D platforming game.
7th Mar '16 4:16:06 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''HomeAlone'' movies follow this formula. The second movie tried to [[RecycledInSpace change the setting]] to UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, the third had different characters (who still had striking similarities to the previous characters), and the fourth introduced a third robber but otherwise, they were almost identical movies.

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* The ''HomeAlone'' ''Film/HomeAlone'' movies follow this formula. The second movie tried to [[RecycledInSpace change the setting]] to UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, the third had different characters (who still had striking similarities to the previous characters), and the fourth introduced a third robber but otherwise, they were almost identical movies.



* The first few episodes of ''TheOffice'' (US) suffered from this. In an arguable subversion, after they changed the show completely from the original English production, it actually got a lot better.

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* The first few episodes of ''TheOffice'' (US) ''Series/TheOfficeUS'' suffered from this. In an arguable subversion, after they changed the show completely from the original English production, it actually got a lot better.



* The American version of ''TopGear'' is suffering from this horribly. Fans were expecting a familiar setting with loads of new content. Instead, they got a setting that only pays lip service to the original's style while completely ripping off the challenges almost shot-for-shot. The producers didn't seem to realize that anyone familiar with the original show wasn't going to bother turning in to see the exact same shows with much lower production values.

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* The American version of ''TopGear'' ''Series/TopGear'' is suffering from this horribly. Fans were expecting a familiar setting with loads of new content. Instead, they got a setting that only pays lip service to the original's style while completely ripping off the challenges almost shot-for-shot. The producers didn't seem to realize that anyone familiar with the original show wasn't going to bother turning in to see the exact same shows with much lower production values.



* {{MTV}}'s adaptation of the British show ''Series/{{Skins}}'', which originally aired on ChannelFour. MTV attempts to use the same aesthetic and similar scripting in their adaptation, but much of the show depended upon aspects of British culture that don't translate effectively to the US. The result is a show that's overly conscious of its being "indie".
** The American version of ''TheInbetweeners'' did exactly the same thing, only much worse, changing the word "wankers" to "turds" and essentially working word-for-word from the original - which heavily relied on British humour, experience, and cultural references, something that can't be recreated IN AMERICA! simply by making the script different.
* This seems to be the main issue had with ''TheMiddle''. It's pointed out that its plot and characters are fairly similar to ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle''. To be fair, the former is something of a SpiritualSuccessor; however, it's a little inaccurate to say that the two are exactly the same.

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* {{MTV}}'s Creator/{{MTV}}'s adaptation of the British show ''Series/{{Skins}}'', which originally aired on ChannelFour. MTV attempts to use the same aesthetic and similar scripting in their adaptation, but much of the show depended upon aspects of British culture that don't translate effectively to the US. The result is a show that's overly conscious of its being "indie".
** * The American version of ''TheInbetweeners'' ''Series/TheInbetweeners'' did exactly the same thing, only much worse, changing the word "wankers" to "turds" and essentially working word-for-word from the original - which heavily relied on British humour, experience, and cultural references, something that can't be recreated IN AMERICA! simply by making the script different.
* This seems to be the main issue had with ''TheMiddle''.''Series/TheMiddle''. It's pointed out that its plot and characters are fairly similar to ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle''. To be fair, the former is something of a SpiritualSuccessor; however, it's a little inaccurate to say that the two are exactly the same.



* Averted by Australian hard rock legends [[Music/{{ACDC}} AC/DC]]. Reviewers are contractually obliged to point out that each of their new albums sound exactly like every single one of the band's previous releases of the last thirty years, and that this is a good thing.

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* Averted by Australian hard rock legends [[Music/{{ACDC}} AC/DC]].Music/{{ACDC}}. Reviewers are contractually obliged to point out that each of their new albums sound exactly like every single one of the band's previous releases of the last thirty years, and that this is a good thing.
5th Mar '16 8:48:23 AM SpinAttaxx
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* ''Pokémon'' tends to get a lot of this, especially in regards to the core gameplay remaining as the monster count climbs. In general, Game Freak's strategy seems to be to keep the main titles to the formula while releasing periodic spinoffs - if you want a Pokémon action game, there's ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRanger Ranger]]'' or ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRumble Rumble]]''. If you want an RPG with a deeper plot, there are the ''VideoGame/PokemonColosseum'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon'' games. Some people just think these are "inferior" because they aren't part of the main series...and what are their complaints? "[[UnpleasableFanbase It's not]] ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue''".

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* ''Pokémon'' ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** The series in whole
tends to get a lot of this, especially in regards to the core gameplay remaining as the monster count climbs. In general, Game Freak's strategy seems to be to keep the main titles to the formula while releasing periodic spinoffs - if you want a Pokémon action game, there's ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRanger Ranger]]'' or ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRumble Rumble]]''. If you want an RPG with a deeper plot, there are the ''VideoGame/PokemonColosseum'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon'' games. Some people just think these are "inferior" because they aren't part of the main series...and what are their complaints? "[[UnpleasableFanbase It's not]] ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue''".''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue''".
** One complaint of ''[=FireRed=]''/''[=LeafGreen=]'' is how slavishly it adheres to using ''only'' the original 151 Pokémon until the National Dex is acquired by disallowing trading with ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' and tampering with the evolution system - evolutions introduced after ''Red/Blue'' like Crobat and Blissey are automatically cancelled when their conditions are met, the Day Care Center only allows one Pokémon at a time, preventing breeding (and access to pre-evolutions like Pichu and Magby) until access to the Sevii Islands' Day Care, and the day/night cycle is gone completely, meaning no Espeon or Umbreon for you. That being said, the remakes of ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' avert this and allow you to get (pre)evolutions introduced after the original games without needing the National Dex.
3rd Mar '16 7:01:48 PM Midna
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** ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' got this reaction right out of the gate for being essentially ''Sticker Star 2'', a game that was poorly received on its own to begin with.
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