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16th Feb '13 11:42:26 AM justanid
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[[http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/music.swf Ishkur's Guide To Electronic Music]] is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a guide to electronic music]] by Kenneth John Taylor. Started in 2000, it has gone through several different incarnations, including a notable stay at {{Newgrounds}}, before ending up at Digitally Imported.

The guide begins with a brief overview of some of the equipment used in making music, and then turns into a massive web of genres and samples. [[WikiWalk One can lose hours just listening to everything.]] The genre descriptions themselves are extremely opinionated, and have a stated priority of entertainment over information. Also notable is the amount of hair-splitting involved, even as he criticizes promoters and artists for coming up with a plethora of genre names.

!!Partial list of artists featured:

* Music/AphexTwin
* Music/{{Aqua}}
* Music/ATribeCalledQuest
* Music/TheBeatles
* Music/BlackEyedPeas
* Music/{{Bjork}}
* Music/GeorgeClinton
* Music/CypressHill
* Music/DaftPunk
* Music/DonnaSummer
* Music/{{Eazy-E}}
* Music/{{Eurythmics}}
* Music/HerbieHancock
* Music/MegumiHayashibara
* Music/IceCube
* Music/{{Ice-T}}
* Music/{{KMFDM}}
* Music/{{Kraftwerk}}
* Music/LilJon
* Music/LLCoolJ
* Music/MaryJBlige
* Music/MassiveAttack
* Milli Vanilli
* Music/{{Ministry}}
* Music/NineInchNails
* Music/PetShopBoys
* Music/PinkFloyd
* Music/PublicEnemy
* Music/TheProdigy
* Music/SirMixALot
* Music/WesleyWillis
* Music/{{Wu-Tang Clan}}

!!Tropes common to the genre descriptions include:

* AccentuateTheNegative
* CausticCritic
* [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Complaining About Music You Don't Like]]
* DarkerAndEdgier: Discussed.
* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Funky House.
** Apparently, Gabber House is cheesy.
* {{Flanderization}}: It's noted that many, many subgenres are born by taking a successful artist or song, then focusing on and exaggerating one specific attribute of their sound.
* [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Gushing About Music You Like]]
* HourglassPlot: Ishkur claims that the pioneers of electronic music were great songwriters and composers but rank novices with their equipment (to be fair, the equipment was so new that ''everyone'' was a novice). But somehow along the way, electronic music became dominated by people who understood their equipment forwards and backwards, but didn't know jack about writing songs.
* {{Jerkass}}
* LighterAndSofter: Discussed. Also one his [[BerserkButton berserk buttons.]]
* NationalStereotypes: According to Ishkur:
** French House (think Music/DaftPunk) is "the only reason why the world does not sack France."
** Britain is to blame for the dullness of certain genres, like Trip Hop.
** American culture (at least, in American Hardcore) needs to show how "manly" it is all the time, but every time it does, [[TestosteronePoisoning it looks even more stupid.]]
* SarcasmMode: "Rap music was invented by Blondie."
* ScheduleSlip: The current version, 2.5, is from 2005. 3.0 has been promised for a while, and has yet to materialize. [[{{Vaporware}} He's still working on it, don't you worry...]]
** [[http://www.ishkur.com/community/comments.php?thread_id=6824 Is the vaporware thing for real]]?
* WidgetSeries: If something has any tangential connection to Japan, little girls with robots will be mentioned.
** Ishkur also compares Japan to [[Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit Toontown]] due to its weirdness.

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[[http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/music.swf Ishkur's Guide To Electronic Music]] is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a guide to electronic music]] by Kenneth John Taylor. Started in 2000, it has gone through several different incarnations, including a notable stay at {{Newgrounds}}, before ending up at Digitally Imported.

The guide begins with a brief overview of some of the equipment used in making music, and then turns into a massive web of genres and samples. [[WikiWalk One can lose hours just listening to everything.]] The genre descriptions themselves are extremely opinionated, and have a stated priority of entertainment over information. Also notable is the amount of hair-splitting involved, even as he criticizes promoters and artists for coming up with a plethora of genre names.

!!Partial list of artists featured:

* Music/AphexTwin
* Music/{{Aqua}}
* Music/ATribeCalledQuest
* Music/TheBeatles
* Music/BlackEyedPeas
* Music/{{Bjork}}
* Music/GeorgeClinton
* Music/CypressHill
* Music/DaftPunk
* Music/DonnaSummer
* Music/{{Eazy-E}}
* Music/{{Eurythmics}}
* Music/HerbieHancock
* Music/MegumiHayashibara
* Music/IceCube
* Music/{{Ice-T}}
* Music/{{KMFDM}}
* Music/{{Kraftwerk}}
* Music/LilJon
* Music/LLCoolJ
* Music/MaryJBlige
* Music/MassiveAttack
* Milli Vanilli
* Music/{{Ministry}}
* Music/NineInchNails
* Music/PetShopBoys
* Music/PinkFloyd
* Music/PublicEnemy
* Music/TheProdigy
* Music/SirMixALot
* Music/WesleyWillis
* Music/{{Wu-Tang Clan}}

!!Tropes common to the genre descriptions include:

* AccentuateTheNegative
* CausticCritic
* [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Complaining About Music You Don't Like]]
* DarkerAndEdgier: Discussed.
* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Funky House.
** Apparently, Gabber House is cheesy.
* {{Flanderization}}: It's noted that many, many subgenres are born by taking a successful artist or song, then focusing on and exaggerating one specific attribute of their sound.
* [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Gushing About Music You Like]]
* HourglassPlot: Ishkur claims that the pioneers of electronic music were great songwriters and composers but rank novices with their equipment (to be fair, the equipment was so new that ''everyone'' was a novice). But somehow along the way, electronic music became dominated by people who understood their equipment forwards and backwards, but didn't know jack about writing songs.
* {{Jerkass}}
* LighterAndSofter: Discussed. Also one his [[BerserkButton berserk buttons.]]
* NationalStereotypes: According to Ishkur:
** French House (think Music/DaftPunk) is "the only reason why the world does not sack France."
** Britain is to blame for the dullness of certain genres, like Trip Hop.
** American culture (at least, in American Hardcore) needs to show how "manly" it is all the time, but every time it does, [[TestosteronePoisoning it looks even more stupid.]]
* SarcasmMode: "Rap music was invented by Blondie."
* ScheduleSlip: The current version, 2.5, is from 2005. 3.0 has been promised for a while, and has yet to materialize. [[{{Vaporware}} He's still working on it, don't you worry...]]
** [[http://www.ishkur.com/community/comments.php?thread_id=6824 Is the vaporware thing for real]]?
* WidgetSeries: If something has any tangential connection to Japan, little girls with robots will be mentioned.
** Ishkur also compares Japan to [[Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit Toontown]] due to its weirdness.
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26th Nov '12 1:27:41 AM MetaFour
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* FanHater

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* FanHater{{Flanderization}}: It's noted that many, many subgenres are born by taking a successful artist or song, then focusing on and exaggerating one specific attribute of their sound.


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* HourglassPlot: Ishkur claims that the pioneers of electronic music were great songwriters and composers but rank novices with their equipment (to be fair, the equipment was so new that ''everyone'' was a novice). But somehow along the way, electronic music became dominated by people who understood their equipment forwards and backwards, but didn't know jack about writing songs.
22nd Jun '12 6:45:06 AM FELH2
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** Ishkur also compares Japan to [[WhoFramedRogerRabbit Toontown]] due to its weirdness.

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** Ishkur also compares Japan to [[WhoFramedRogerRabbit [[Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit Toontown]] due to its weirdness.
23rd Apr '12 6:38:16 PM movie007
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* Music/{{Sir Mix-A-Lot}}

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* Music/{{Sir Mix-A-Lot}}Music/SirMixALot
16th Apr '12 10:43:48 AM nombretomado
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** French House (think DaftPunk) is "the only reason why the world does not sack France."

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** French House (think DaftPunk) Music/DaftPunk) is "the only reason why the world does not sack France."
20th Feb '12 9:42:52 AM Catbert
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* AcceptableNationalityTargets: According to Ishkur:
** French House (think DaftPunk) is "the only reason why the world does not sack France."
** Britain is to blame for the dullness of certain genres, like Trip Hop.
** American culture (at least, in American Hardcore) needs to show how "manly" it is all the time, but every time it does, [[TestosteronePoisoning it looks even more stupid.]]


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* NationalStereotypes: According to Ishkur:
** French House (think DaftPunk) is "the only reason why the world does not sack France."
** Britain is to blame for the dullness of certain genres, like Trip Hop.
** American culture (at least, in American Hardcore) needs to show how "manly" it is all the time, but every time it does, [[TestosteronePoisoning it looks even more stupid.]]
18th Feb '12 9:29:04 AM Raysenn
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Discussed.


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* LighterAndSofter: Discussed. Also one his [[BerserkButton berserk buttons.]]
24th Jan '12 9:37:12 AM SeptimusHeap
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[[redirect:{{ptitleuh2zymt9}}]][[http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/music.swf Ishkur's Guide To Electronic Music]] is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a guide to electronic music]] by Kenneth John Taylor. Started in 2000, it has gone through several different incarnations, including a notable stay at {{Newgrounds}}, before ending up at Digitally Imported.

The guide begins with a brief overview of some of the equipment used in making music, and then turns into a massive web of genres and samples. [[WikiWalk One can lose hours just listening to everything.]] The genre descriptions themselves are extremely opinionated, and have a stated priority of entertainment over information. Also notable is the amount of hair-splitting involved, even as he criticizes promoters and artists for coming up with a plethora of genre names.

!!Partial list of artists featured:

* Music/AphexTwin
* Music/{{Aqua}}
* Music/ATribeCalledQuest
* Music/TheBeatles
* Music/BlackEyedPeas
* Music/{{Bjork}}
* Music/GeorgeClinton
* Music/CypressHill
* Music/DaftPunk
* Music/DonnaSummer
* Music/{{Eazy-E}}
* Music/{{Eurythmics}}
* Music/HerbieHancock
* Music/MegumiHayashibara
* Music/IceCube
* Music/{{Ice-T}}
* Music/{{KMFDM}}
* Music/{{Kraftwerk}}
* Music/LilJon
* Music/LLCoolJ
* Music/MaryJBlige
* Music/MassiveAttack
* Milli Vanilli
* Music/{{Ministry}}
* Music/NineInchNails
* Music/PetShopBoys
* Music/PinkFloyd
* Music/PublicEnemy
* Music/TheProdigy
* Music/{{Sir Mix-A-Lot}}
* Music/WesleyWillis
* Music/{{Wu-Tang Clan}}

!!Tropes common to the genre descriptions include:

* AccentuateTheNegative
* AcceptableNationalityTargets: According to Ishkur:
** French House (think DaftPunk) is "the only reason why the world does not sack France."
** Britain is to blame for the dullness of certain genres, like Trip Hop.
** American culture (at least, in American Hardcore) needs to show how "manly" it is all the time, but every time it does, [[TestosteronePoisoning it looks even more stupid.]]
* CausticCritic
* [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike Complaining About Music You Don't Like]]
* DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment: Funky House.
** Apparently, Gabber House is cheesy.
* FanHater
* [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Gushing About Music You Like]]
* {{Jerkass}}
* SarcasmMode: "Rap music was invented by Blondie."
* ScheduleSlip: The current version, 2.5, is from 2005. 3.0 has been promised for a while, and has yet to materialize. [[{{Vaporware}} He's still working on it, don't you worry...]]
** [[http://www.ishkur.com/community/comments.php?thread_id=6824 Is the vaporware thing for real]]?
* WidgetSeries: If something has any tangential connection to Japan, little girls with robots will be mentioned.
** Ishkur also compares Japan to [[WhoFramedRogerRabbit Toontown]] due to its weirdness.
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