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20th Apr '17 6:21:51 PM Blazer
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* This is what lead to Sega dropping out of the video game console race. Sega of Japan and Sega of America were constantly headbutting due to the fact that [=SoJ=] couldn't market the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive as good as [=SoA=]. This lead to a number of problems including a purposely-botched Sega CD launch, the snubbing of Sony by [=SoJ=] that lead to the creation of the Playstation and part of the reason why the Saturn failed.
17th Apr '17 6:20:55 PM TheSinful
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* As part of her TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, Asuka in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12141795/14/Neon-Metathesis-Evangelion Neon Metathesis Evangelion]]'', calls out [=NERV=] for refusing to call on conventional forces for assistance even when it would make battles far easier.



* ''Film/CrimsonTide''. "I expect and demand your very best. Anything less?you should have joined the Air Force!" Said by TheCaptain in a RousingSpeech before boarding the boat.

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* ''Film/CrimsonTide''. "I expect and demand your very best. Anything less?you less? You should have joined the Air Force!" Said by TheCaptain in a RousingSpeech before boarding the boat.
16th Apr '17 2:55:00 PM nombretomado
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* In William King's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' SpaceWolf novel ''Grey Hunters'', the Wolf Lord Berek arrived to back up his subordinate in a conflict between the Space Wolves and the Inquisition explicitly because the Space Wolves do not give up what they have won -- even prisoners.

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* In William King's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' SpaceWolf Literature/SpaceWolf novel ''Grey Hunters'', the Wolf Lord Berek arrived to back up his subordinate in a conflict between the Space Wolves and the Inquisition explicitly because the Space Wolves do not give up what they have won -- even prisoners.
12th Apr '17 12:20:27 PM Chabal2
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*** The Space Wolves in particular have a major grudge against the [[ObstructiveBureaucrat Administratum]] due to the policy of the Administratum to replace the entire of Armaggeddon's workforce to weed out any Chaotic corruption after the First War of Armaggeddon against Angron's World Eaters and associated daemonic hordes. They did this by forcing the entire planet's population into concentration camps to be sterilised and then worked to death via slave labour. Logan Grimnar, leader of the Space Wolves, did not like that, and told the Inquisitor as much, to his face. He could get away with his outspokenness because he had fifteen thousand royally pissed-off and unflinchingly loyal {{Super Soldier}}s at his back, ready to stomp the Inquisitor into the ground. This leads to about as much friction with the [[StateSec Inquisition]] as you'd expect.

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*** The Space Wolves in particular have a major grudge against the [[ObstructiveBureaucrat Administratum]] due to the policy of the Administratum to replace the entire of Armaggeddon's workforce to weed out any Chaotic corruption after the First War of Armaggeddon against Angron's World Eaters and associated daemonic hordes. They did this by forcing the entire planet's population into concentration camps to be sterilised and then worked to death via slave labour. Logan Grimnar, leader of the Space Wolves, did not like that, and told the Inquisitor as much, to his face. He could get away with his outspokenness because he had fifteen thousand royally pissed-off and unflinchingly loyal {{Super Soldier}}s at his back, ready to stomp the Inquisitor into the ground. This leads to about as much friction with the [[StateSec Inquisition]] as you'd expect.expect, culminating in the Months of Shame, a war between the Space Wolves and Inquisition that did more damage to Fenris than during the whole Heresy, ending only when Bjorn teleported onto the Inquisition's flagship and killed the Grand Master of the GreyKnights before ordering everybody to stand down.



** Regular human forces can be roughly thought of, in increasing order of prestige as: Planetary Defence<Imperial Guard<Storm Troopers. Naturally every echelon hates the echelons above and below them.

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** Regular human forces can be roughly thought of, in increasing order of prestige as: Planetary Defence<Imperial Guard<Storm Troopers. Naturally every echelon hates the echelons above and below them.them or treats them as incompetent (to the PDF's discredit, this is often the case, especially on worlds that aren't in a constant state of warfare).



** It's not even limited to inter-service rivalry. ''Intra''-service rivalries are also common, with Guard regiments from one world going to war with Guard regiments from other worlds for a variety of reasons. The typical Ork Waaagh lasts about as long as the Warboss is able to keep the various tribes in it fighting somebody other than each other.

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** It's not even limited to inter-service rivalry. ''Intra''-service rivalries are also common, with Guard regiments from one world going to war with Guard regiments from other worlds for a variety of reasons. The typical Ork Waaagh lasts about as long as the Warboss is able to keep the various tribes in it fighting somebody other than each other. Chaos armies are only as united as their leader is [[KlingonPromotion able to answer challenges to his authority]]. and so on and so forth.



** And all of this doesn't even begin to go into the [[RightHandVersusLeftHand tumultuous relationships]] everyone else has with the Inquisition. Or for that matter, what happens when two Inquisitors (both of whom, in theory, answer to no-one save the Emperor and can demand instant obedience from anyone else) start butting heads.

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** And all of this doesn't even begin to go into the [[RightHandVersusLeftHand tumultuous relationships]] everyone else has with the Inquisition. Or for that matter, what happens when two Inquisitors (both of whom, in theory, answer to no-one save the Emperor and can demand instant obedience from anyone else) start butting heads. The fact that the three major Ordos have different goals (dealing with aliens, daemons and heresy respectively) doesn't help, as one branch may find itself under fire from the other for using alien weaponry on daemons and vice-versa.
1st Apr '17 1:24:29 AM TroperBeDoper
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* Averted in ''Film/{{Transformers}}'', where a special forces team is made up of members from several branches of the military (Lennox and most of the team are Army Special Forces, and Epps is an Air Force Combat Controller) with nary a word of disparagement between branch members. Yeah, one would hope that rivalry can be put aside against giant robot AlienInvasions.

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* Averted in ''Film/{{Transformers}}'', where a special forces team is made up of members from several branches of the military (Lennox and most of the team are Army Special Forces, and Epps is an Air Force Combat Controller) with nary a word of disparagement between branch members. Yeah, one would hope that rivalry can be put aside against giant robot AlienInvasions.{{Alien Invasion}}s.
15th Mar '17 3:19:42 PM themisterfree
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** And now practically ''everyone'' above is united in opposition to the Republican's efforts to repeal Obamacare and replace it with a far inferior substitute.
7th Mar '17 8:24:24 AM ChronoLegion
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** In one novel, we find out that the Central Command has their own intelligence-gathering branch. Naturally, the Obsidian Order sees them as inferior.

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** In one novel, we find out that the Central Command has their own intelligence-gathering branch. Naturally, the Obsidian Order sees them as inferior. This is likely intended to mirror the [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]]-era rivalry between the NKVD and the GRU.
5th Mar '17 5:24:36 PM Tank50us
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* In any company with multiple shifts that generally don't interact with one another professionally, it's not uncommon for them to blame each other when something doesn't work right. Examples include:
** At Amazons Robotic-Storage Facilities, it's not uncommon for one shift to spot a problem, and not know how it happened. This is especially true with the Amnesty Crew. Problems found by a night shift AA may have been a result of something done by someone on day shift... or so the blame will likely be placed.
** Night shift Nurses may blame Day shift nurses for anything that happens to patients, and vice-versa. "The patient was fine when we handed them off to you, what happened?" This may apply to anything, even when it's non-life-threatening.
** Ramp Workers at Airports may have this now and then, due to the wild schedules some companies operate on, it's possible for two shifts to cover the same plane (one covering arrival, one covering departure), with additional shift changes possible in the baggage area between the two. If you've ever wondered how it's possible your luggage could've gotten lost... wonder no more...
2nd Mar '17 11:36:14 AM BeerBaron
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'':
** The [[CorruptChurch Tribunal Temple]] has two militant wings: the ChurchPolice Ordinators, who serve as guards for Temple holdings and holy sites, inquisitors, and jailers, with KnightTemplar traits, and the Buoyant Armigers, elite special forces hand picked for service by [[PhysicalGod Vivec]] himself, who are typically decked out in high quality glass armor and typically operate in the [[LethalLavaLand Lethal Lava Lands]] and [[{{Mordor}} Mordors]] of Vvardenfell. The more solemn Ordinators don't really get along with the Armigers, who seek to emulate Vivec's WarriorPoet traits.
** In the ''Tribunal'' expansion, there is a rivalry and general sense of distrust between [[PhysicalGod Almalexia's]] High Ordinators and [[MagnificentBastard King Helseth's]] Royal Guards. [[spoiler: When the city is attacked by fabricants, each faction will ask you to report the attack to their side's leadership]]. The quests in the second half of the Tribunal main quest are slightly different depending on which side you report to, though the ending is ultimately the same.
24th Jan '17 12:36:37 AM aurora369
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* Taken UpToEleven by the [[TsaristRussia Tsars]]: they had competing ''civilian bureaucracies'', named Interior and Finance. There was no real division of purpose between the two. Noble families would pick a side and serve as bureaucrats for a particular ministry for generations.\\\

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* Taken UpToEleven by the [[TsaristRussia Tsars]]: they had competing ''civilian bureaucracies'', named Interior and Finance. There was no real division of purpose between "Interior" in Russia is the two.traditional name for the police ministry (it persists to this day), and what the Finance does is obvious. Noble families would pick a side and serve as bureaucrats for a particular ministry for generations.\\\
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