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17th Aug '16 11:28:01 AM Premonition45
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->''"Every single empire in its official discourse has said that it is not like all the others, that its circumstances are special, that it has a mission to enlighten, civilize, bring order and democracy, and that it uses force only as a last resort. And, sadder still, [[IntellectuallySupportedTyranny there always is a chorus of willing intellectuals to say calming words about benign or altruistic empires]], as if one shouldn't trust the evidence of one's eyes watching the destruction and the misery and death brought by the latest ''mission civilizatrice''."''

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->''"Every single empire in its official discourse has said that it is not like all the others, that its circumstances are special, that it has a mission to enlighten, civilize, bring order and democracy, and that it uses force only as a last resort. And, sadder still, [[IntellectuallySupportedTyranny there always is a chorus of willing intellectuals to say calming words about benign or altruistic empires]], empires, as if one shouldn't trust the evidence of one's eyes watching the destruction and the misery and death brought by the latest ''mission civilizatrice''."''
17th Aug '16 11:27:43 AM Premonition45
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->''"Every single empire in its official discourse has said that it is not like all the others, that its circumstances are special, that it has a mission to enlighten, civilize, bring order and democracy, and that it uses force only as a last resort. And, sadder still, [[IntellectuallySupportedTyranny there always is a chorus of willing intellectuals to say calming words about benign or altruistic empires]], as if one shouldn't trust the evidence of one's eyes watching the destruction and the misery and death brought by the latest ''mission civilizatrice''."''
-->-- '''Edward Said''', ''Orientalism''
2nd Jan '16 12:39:08 AM JulianLapostat
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* Pretty much every totalitarian movement from the UsefulNotes/FrenchRevolution to the present day has had prominent intellectual supporters.
19th Jul '15 9:11:58 AM nombretomado
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* [[ComicBook/TheFantasticFour Reed Richards]] turns from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless useless]] into outright this in Comicbook/CivilWar and ComicBook/MarvelZombies. In Comicbook/CivilWar, he and [[spoiler:Skrull!]]ComicBook/AntMan flank Tony Stark by this. Though in the case of MarvelZombies it's clear that the grief of losing his children left him.... slightly unhinged.

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* [[ComicBook/TheFantasticFour Reed Richards]] turns from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless useless]] into outright this in Comicbook/CivilWar and ComicBook/MarvelZombies. In Comicbook/CivilWar, he and [[spoiler:Skrull!]]ComicBook/AntMan flank Tony Stark by this. Though in the case of MarvelZombies ComicBook/MarvelZombies it's clear that the grief of losing his children left him.... slightly unhinged.
13th Mar '15 10:45:40 AM hbi2k
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** Keep in mind that these are the surviving Forsaken, during the original War of Power the term Forsaken was used to describe any Channeller who sided with the Dark One. These thirteen Forsaken survived out of sheer luck, being in Shayol Ghul when it was sealed.
13th Mar '15 10:44:38 AM hbi2k
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* Technocracies (e.g. EmperorScientist) are often used as stock {{dystopia}}s ruled by intellectuals abusing science and philosophy for the sake of power (e.g. MindManipulation and BigBrotherIsWatching technology).
24th Nov '14 9:23:17 AM MickeyMoose
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* [[ComicBook/TheFantasticFour Reed Richards]] turns from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless useless]] into outright this in Comicbook/CivilWar and ComicBook/MarvelZombies. In Comicbook/CivilWar, he and [[spoiler:Skrull!]]ComicBook/AntMan flank Tony Stark by this. Though in the case of MarvelZombies it's clear that the grief of losing his children left him.... slightly unhinged.

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* [[ComicBook/TheFantasticFour Reed Richards]] turns from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless useless]] into outright this in Comicbook/CivilWar and ComicBook/MarvelZombies. In Comicbook/CivilWar, he and [[spoiler:Skrull!]]ComicBook/AntMan flank Tony Stark by this. Though in the case of MarvelZombies it's clear that the grief of losing his children left him.... slightly unhinged.
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* As in the canon ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' story, in ''FanFic/OriginStory'' Tony Stark's justification for shredding the US Constitution when it comes to superhumans is a huge pile of intellectual justification that, in the end, boils down to intellectual support for slavery and facism. When the consequences of his actions are blatantly thrown in his face, Tony Stark has a sudden and painful HeelRealization.
22nd Jun '14 7:00:36 AM JohnChurchill
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* Pretty much every totalitarian movement from the UsefulNotes/FrenchRevolution to the present day has had prominent intellectual supporters.
16th Mar '14 11:35:23 AM ArenaL5
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* Diethard in ''CodeGeass'' is another journalist example of this type, becoming a propagandist for [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Anti Hero with Good Publicity]] Lelouch/Zero. He's motivated by discontent with the entrenched Britannian aristocracy, but ends up as a more negative version as ultimately, he's really looking for an interesting MagnificentBastard to follow and thus defects to the side of Prince Schneizel, who is even more so a VillainWithGoodPublicity / DevilInPlainSight.

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* Diethard in ''CodeGeass'' ''Anime/CodeGeass'' is another journalist example of this type, becoming a propagandist for [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Anti Hero with Good Publicity]] Lelouch/Zero. He's motivated by discontent with the entrenched Britannian aristocracy, but ends up as a more negative version as ultimately, he's really looking for an interesting MagnificentBastard to follow and thus defects to the side of Prince Schneizel, who is even more so a VillainWithGoodPublicity / DevilInPlainSight.



* [[ComicBook/TheFantasticFour Reed Richards]] turns from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless useless]] into outright this in Comicbook/CivilWar and MarvelZombies. In Comicbook/CivilWar, he and [[spoiler:Skrull!]]AntMan flank Tony Stark by this. Though in the case of MarvelZombies it's clear that the grief of losing his children left him.... slightly unhinged.

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* [[ComicBook/TheFantasticFour Reed Richards]] turns from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless useless]] into outright this in Comicbook/CivilWar and MarvelZombies. ComicBook/MarvelZombies. In Comicbook/CivilWar, he and [[spoiler:Skrull!]]AntMan [[spoiler:Skrull!]]ComicBook/AntMan flank Tony Stark by this. Though in the case of MarvelZombies it's clear that the grief of losing his children left him.... slightly unhinged.



* ''{{Fahrenheit 451}}'' has Beatty, who is DaChief for the Firemen and typically of a dystopian novel, is a well-read intellectual devoted to his job of burning books. It's implied in the novel and more explicit in some adaptations that at heart, Beatty hates himself for what he has become.

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* ''{{Fahrenheit ''Literature/{{Fahrenheit 451}}'' has Beatty, who is DaChief for the Firemen and typically of a dystopian novel, is a well-read intellectual devoted to his job of burning books. It's implied in the novel and more explicit in some adaptations that at heart, Beatty hates himself for what he has become.



*** Same thing in TheSecretAgent. Appearently based on a real person.

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*** Same thing in TheSecretAgent.''Literature/TheSecretAgent''. Appearently based on a real person.
2nd Mar '14 10:21:29 AM Aiguille
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* In TheWheelOfTime, the leader of the Forsaken was once a philosopher - and since the [[BigBad Dark One]] will destroy time forever if he succeeds and gets to keep trying until he manages, decided to throw his lot in with the winner.

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* In TheWheelOfTime, ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', the leader of the Forsaken was once a philosopher - and since the [[BigBad Dark One]] will destroy time forever if he succeeds and gets to keep trying until he manages, decided to throw his lot in with the winner.



* ''AtlasShrugged'' has a handful of 'intellectuals' supporting the [[CommieLand People's States]], although the overwhelming majority are unwilling to put forward works stating anything more than uncertainty. Dr. Ferris, author of ''Why Do You Think You Think'' and political force behind creating [[NuclearWeaponsTaboo Project Xylophone]] with a range focused within the continental United States, is the most overt of that branch. Dr. Stadler is the more conventional intellectual, and his brilliance lends to a couple PetTheDog moments, before we discover exactly what he was willing to sell his word and his soul for.

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* ''AtlasShrugged'' ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' has a handful of 'intellectuals' supporting the [[CommieLand People's States]], although the overwhelming majority are unwilling to put forward works stating anything more than uncertainty. Dr. Ferris, author of ''Why Do You Think You Think'' and political force behind creating [[NuclearWeaponsTaboo Project Xylophone]] with a range focused within the continental United States, is the most overt of that branch. Dr. Stadler is the more conventional intellectual, and his brilliance lends to a couple PetTheDog moments, before we discover exactly what he was willing to sell his word and his soul for.
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