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19th Dec '16 9:19:00 PM TheRoguePenguin
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** Same with the Kazon from ''Voyager'', who have interstellar spaceflight forcibly appropriated from their Trabe conquerors, but can't figure out how to synthesize water. Or land on a planet that has water. Or even melt an ice-asteroid. These are a people so backwards that the ''Borg'' deemed them unworthy of assimilation.

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** The Ornarans from "Symbiosis" have starships that they have forgotten how to repair and can barely fly competently. This is because the Brekkians have kept them addicted to a drug for generations, and they've long stopped caring about anything other than getting a continuous supply.
** {{Lampshaded}} by the Barzans themselves in ''The Next Generation'' episode "The Price". They decide to sell their newly discovered wormhole because they have neither the experience nor the technology to exploit it and they hope this transaction would allow the end of their situation of Third World Country IN SPACE! Despite the relative lack of natural resources on their planet, they already reached a development stage where they can deal with other planets. Also, in the same episode, the Caldonian delegate decide to withdraw from negotiations when he realized [[PlanetOfHats his race of scholars]] wouldn't be able to manage the administrative needs provided by the wormhole.
** Same with the Kazon from ''Voyager'', who have interstellar spaceflight forcibly appropriated from their Trabe conquerors, but can't figure out how to synthesize water. Or land on a planet that has water. Or even melt an ice-asteroid. Their idea of a holding cell is literally telling the prisoners not to cross a line. These are a people so backwards that the ''Borg'' deemed them unworthy of assimilation.



** Another from ''Voyager'': the Vidiians are suffering from the "phage", a disease which destroys their internal organs. They are able to steal organs from every other sentient race for transplant with no risk of rejection, a feat that even current Federation medical science cannot replicate. Despite this, they seem unable to actually cure the phage to begin with. It seems hard to believe that the Vidiians [[AliensNeverInventedTheWheel have no knowledge of virology or immunology]], given that preventing organ rejection requires knowledge of immunology to begin with -- more likely the writers decided not to research the matter.\\\
At one point it's revealed that Klingon tissue is resistant to the phage, setting up a plotline putting half-Klingon B'lanna Torres in jeopardy of being harvested -- never mind that a simple tissue sample, along with cloning technology, would be all that the Vidiians would need. Both are within ''20th century technology'', let alone what the Federation has available, and yet this win-win (the Vidiians cure the phage without harvesting B'lanna, and ''Voyager'' gets a valuable ally in return) never occurs to ''anyone'' involved. Worse still, there was one point where the Vidiians kidnapped B'lanna and somehow physically split her into her component human and Klingon halves. If you can do that, surely you could have just taken a blood sample and made yourself a full-Klingon B'lanna without all the fuss. You don't even have to clone a ''person''. Just clone organs.

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** Another from ''Voyager'': the Vidiians are suffering from the "phage", a disease which destroys their internal organs. They are able to steal organs from every other sentient race for transplant with no risk of rejection, a feat that even current Federation medical science cannot replicate. Despite this, they seem unable to actually cure the phage to begin with. It seems hard to believe that the Vidiians [[AliensNeverInventedTheWheel have no knowledge of virology or immunology]], given that preventing organ rejection requires knowledge of immunology to begin with -- more likely the writers decided not to research the matter.\\\
At one point it's revealed that Klingon tissue is resistant to the phage, setting up a plotline putting half-Klingon B'lanna Torres in jeopardy of being harvested -- never mind that a simple tissue sample, along with cloning technology, would be all that the Vidiians would need. Both are within ''20th century technology'', let alone what the Federation has available, and yet this win-win (the Vidiians cure the phage without harvesting B'lanna, and ''Voyager'' gets a valuable ally in return) never occurs to ''anyone'' involved. Worse still, there was one point where the Vidiians kidnapped B'lanna and somehow physically split her into her component human and Klingon halves. If you can do that, surely you could have just taken a blood sample and made yourself a full-Klingon B'lanna without all the fuss. You don't even have to clone a ''person''. Just clone organs.



** {{Lampshaded}} by the Barzans themselves in ''The Next Generation'' episode "The Price". They decide to sell their newly discovered wormhole because they have neither the experience nor the technology to exploit it and they hope this transaction would allow the end of their situation of Third World Country IN SPACE! Despite the relative lack of natural resources on their planet, they already reached a development stage where they can deal with other planets.
** Also, in the same episode, the Caldonian delegate decide to withdraw from negotiations when he realized [[PlanetOfHats his race of scholars]] wouldn't be able to manage the administrative needs provided by the wormhole.
25th Oct '16 3:26:58 AM KeithM
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* In ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes'', one of the perplexing aspects of the genocidal Achuultani invaders is the odd patchwork their ships exhibit, mixing superior and inferior technologies in defiance of what the natural progression of technology should have resulted in. For instance, "they appear to possess only a very rudimentary appreciation of gravitonics and their ships do not employ gravitonic sublight drives, yet their sublight missiles employ a highly sophisticated gravitonic drive which is, in fact, superior to that of the Imperium." [[spoiler:It is later theorized that the ships were deliberately handicapped by their overlord AI, thus perpetuating the "crisis" that enables it to exercise emergency protocols to maintain control.]]

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* In ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes'', one of the perplexing aspects of the genocidal Achuultani invaders is the odd patchwork their ships exhibit, mixing superior and inferior technologies in defiance of what the natural progression of technology should have resulted in. For instance, "they appear to possess only a very rudimentary appreciation of gravitonics and their ships do not employ gravitonic sublight drives, yet their sublight missiles employ a highly sophisticated gravitonic drive which is, in fact, superior to that of the Imperium." [[spoiler:It is later theorized that the ships were deliberately handicapped by their overlord AI, giving them the tech required to win but also to suffer significant losses while doing so thus perpetuating the "crisis" that enables it to exercise emergency protocols to maintain control.]]
25th Oct '16 2:05:27 AM Fireblood
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* When [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_Islands#M.C4.81ori_conquest_and_genocide the Maori conquered and nearly wiped out the Moriori people]] they used a ship far beyond their own tech level. It was stolen.

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* When [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_Islands#M.C4.81ori_conquest_and_genocide the Maori conquered and nearly wiped out the Moriori people]] they used a ship far beyond their own tech level. It was stolen. This is what allowed the invasion.
20th Oct '16 8:39:18 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Another from ''Voyager'': the Vidiians are suffering from the "phage", a disease which destroys their internal organs. They are able to steal organs from every other sentient race for transplant with no risk of rejection, a feat that even current Federation medical science cannot replicate. Despite this, they seem unable to actually cure the phage to begin with. It seems hard to believe that the Vidiians [[AliensNeverInventedTheWheel have no knowledge of virology or immunology]], given that preventing organ rejection requires knowledge of immunology to begin with -- more likely [[TheyJustDidntCare the writers decided not to research the matter.]]\\\

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** Another from ''Voyager'': the Vidiians are suffering from the "phage", a disease which destroys their internal organs. They are able to steal organs from every other sentient race for transplant with no risk of rejection, a feat that even current Federation medical science cannot replicate. Despite this, they seem unable to actually cure the phage to begin with. It seems hard to believe that the Vidiians [[AliensNeverInventedTheWheel have no knowledge of virology or immunology]], given that preventing organ rejection requires knowledge of immunology to begin with -- more likely [[TheyJustDidntCare the writers decided not to research the matter.]]\\\\\\
5th Oct '16 9:33:30 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ''Literature/TheTommyknockers''. They have the ability to create wonders like antigravity, contained miniature stars, and teleportation. However, they don't have the common sense necessary to ''use'' these things (for example, they use up scads of batteries for their antigravity devices, because they need direct current and wall current is alternating. None of them ever thought about [[MundaneSolution buying an AC-DC converter]]), and their other racial trait is HairTriggerTemper. They keep killing each other over petty differences and have destroyed planets before because two of them got into an argument and used what turned out to be planet killers on each other.
6th Sep '16 11:25:45 AM Mooncalf
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* The Florans and Avians of ''VideoGame/{{Starbound}}'' skirt the trope. Florans are violent savages who find time better spent ssstabbing things than learning higher science, so they prefer to just scavenge technology from other races (usually after a good bout of ssstabbing). Avians were granted advanced technology by unknown aliens, but the full understanding is solely in the hands of the Stargazers (their high priests), as is the only supply of the Avolite crystals said technology depends on, thus ensuring that the priesthood remains in power.
24th Aug '16 12:30:16 PM Gamermaster
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22nd Aug '16 1:55:33 PM TheRoguePenguin
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** Same with the Kazon from ''Voyager'', who have interstellar spaceflight forcibly appropriated from their Trabe conquerors, but can't figure out how to synthesize water...
*** Or even melt an ice-asteroid.

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** Same with the Kazon from ''Voyager'', who have interstellar spaceflight forcibly appropriated from their Trabe conquerors, but can't figure out how to synthesize water...
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water. Or land on a planet that has water. Or even melt an ice-asteroid.ice-asteroid. These are a people so backwards that the ''Borg'' deemed them unworthy of assimilation.



At one point it's revealed that Klingon tissue is resistant to the phage, setting up a plotline putting half-Klingon B'lanna Torres in jeopardy of being harvested -- never mind that a simple tissue sample, along with cloning technology, would be all that the Vidiians would need. Both are within ''20th century technology'', let alone what the Federation has available, and yet this win-win (the Vidiians cure the phage without harvesting B'lanna, and ''Voyager'' gets a valuable ally in return) never occurs to ''anyone'' involved. Worse still, there was one point where the Vidiians kidnapped B'lanna and somehow physically split her into her component human and Klingon halves. If you can do that, surely you could have just taken a blood sample and made yourself a full-Klingon B'lanna without all the fuss.
*** You don't even have to clone a ''person''. Just clone organs.

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At one point it's revealed that Klingon tissue is resistant to the phage, setting up a plotline putting half-Klingon B'lanna Torres in jeopardy of being harvested -- never mind that a simple tissue sample, along with cloning technology, would be all that the Vidiians would need. Both are within ''20th century technology'', let alone what the Federation has available, and yet this win-win (the Vidiians cure the phage without harvesting B'lanna, and ''Voyager'' gets a valuable ally in return) never occurs to ''anyone'' involved. Worse still, there was one point where the Vidiians kidnapped B'lanna and somehow physically split her into her component human and Klingon halves. If you can do that, surely you could have just taken a blood sample and made yourself a full-Klingon B'lanna without all the fuss.
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fuss. You don't even have to clone a ''person''. Just clone organs.
7th Aug '16 12:20:23 AM AnotherDuck
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* The aliens in ''Film/IndependenceDay'' are sufficiently advanced to have interstellar capability and DeflectorShields, but in other respects their offensive capabilities are not particularly more advanced then ours. Their doomsday weapons are about as effective as nukes; their attack ships have about the same aerobatic capability as our own fighter jets; their {{Plasma Cannon}}s really aren't any more effective than bullets, and their computers are so jerry-built that a human with a laptop can hack them. In his review of the film, Creator/RogerEbert made a list of the things the aliens were arguably advanced enough to do but didn't, such as taking out everything from orbit, or knocking out our communications with an EMP, or of course, investing in proper virus protection.

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* The aliens in ''Film/IndependenceDay'' are sufficiently advanced to have interstellar capability and DeflectorShields, but in other respects their offensive capabilities are not particularly more advanced then than ours. Their doomsday weapons are about as effective as nukes; their attack ships have about the same aerobatic capability as our own fighter jets; their {{Plasma Cannon}}s really aren't any more effective than bullets, and their computers are so jerry-built that a human with a laptop can hack them. In his review of the film, Creator/RogerEbert made a list of the things the aliens were arguably advanced enough to do but didn't, such as taking out everything from orbit, or knocking out our communications with an EMP, or of course, investing in proper virus protection.
6th Aug '16 8:02:15 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** The novel ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'' reveals that even the Covenant's own [=AIs=] are seriously hampered by the same religious dogma as the rest of the Covenant. When Cortana begins messing around with the ''default settings'' on the slipstream drive and the plasma weapons, increasing their effectiveness, the Covenant AI shows up, angry at this heresy. It even appears to just be a copy of a human AI with Covenant programming shoved into it; as it turns out, AI research is heavily restricted in the Covenant for religious reasons, to point where the punishment for trying to make a fully self-aware one is death.

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** The novel ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'' reveals that even the Covenant's own [=AIs=] are seriously hampered by the same religious dogma as the rest of the Covenant. When Cortana begins messing around with the ''default settings'' on the slipstream drive and the plasma weapons, increasing their effectiveness, the Covenant AI shows up, angry at this heresy. It even appears to just be a copy of a human AI with Covenant programming shoved into it; as it turns out, AI research is heavily restricted in the Covenant for religious reasons, to the point where the punishment for trying to make a fully self-aware one is death.
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