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11th Jun '16 6:08:38 AM Shadowgazer
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A hilariously flawed combination of YouFailBiologyForever and MostWritersAreMale. Possibly the most extreme form of TheSmurfettePrinciple.

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A hilariously flawed hilarious combination of YouFailBiologyForever and MostWritersAreMale.MostWritersAreHuman. Possibly the most extreme form of TheSmurfettePrinciple.
11th Jun '16 5:03:07 AM Shadowgazer
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OK, so insects don't have human language, human facial expressions, human social dynamics etc. either. All those aspects are anthropomorphised, so why not impose human gender politics on BeePeople as well? This particular departure from reality is harder to [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief forgive]] because, unlike granting insects human speech, it's not necessary at all to telling the story - they could easily have an ActionGirl heroine. Maybe it's related to other [[BeePeople hive-worshiping]] issues, like portraying a hive as an absolute monarchy (where the "queen" is of course the ruler - as opposed to simply a creature specialized as a reproductive and secretory organ of the collective-organism) or as a sort of republic, [[AuthorTract depending on the author's preference]]. Social/political interpretations (and their flexibility) apply to drones as well - the writers may simply have baulked at the idea of portraying males more realistically as [[DisposableSexWorker disposable mating machines]], especially in a family film.

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OK, so insects don't have human language, human facial expressions, human social dynamics etc. either. All those aspects are anthropomorphised, so why not impose human gender politics on BeePeople as well? This particular departure from reality is a bit harder to [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief forgive]] because, unlike granting insects human speech, it's not necessary at all to telling the story - they could easily have an ActionGirl heroine. Maybe Most likely it's related to other [[BeePeople hive-worshiping]] issues, like portraying a hive as an absolute monarchy (where the "queen" is of course the ruler - as opposed to simply a creature specialized as a reproductive and secretory organ of the collective-organism) or as a sort of republic, [[AuthorTract depending on the author's preference]]. Social/political interpretations (and their flexibility) apply to drones as well - the writers may simply have baulked at the idea of portraying males more realistically as [[DisposableSexWorker disposable mating machines]], especially in a family film.
film, let alone when they are sapient, anthropomorphic beings.
26th Apr '16 10:20:16 PM TARINunit9
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** There is also a male mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary O+ which is obviously supposed to be blood even though males only drink plant juices.

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** There is also a male mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary O+ O+, which is obviously supposed to be blood blood, even though the 'squito has a male voice actor and males only drink plant juices.juices. Then again, humans hardly drink alcohol for sustenance, and the blood makes the 'squito [[IntoxicationEnsues pass out]].
23rd Mar '16 11:46:21 AM MrMediaGuy2
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%%The insect that orders a Bloody Mary O+ in the bar is a male tick, not a male mosquito.

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%%The insect ** There is also a male mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary O+ in the bar which is a male tick, not a male mosquito.obviously supposed to be blood even though males only drink plant juices.
23rd Mar '16 7:42:30 AM Julia1984
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** There is also a male mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary O+ which is obviously supposed to be blood even though males only drink plant juices.

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** There is also a male mosquito in the bug bar %%The insect that orders a Bloody Mary O+ which in the bar is obviously supposed to be blood even though males only drink plant juices.a male tick, not a male mosquito.
30th Dec '15 6:34:58 PM Mario876
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** There is also a male mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary +O which is obviously supposed to be blood even though males only drink plant juices

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** There is also a male mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary +O O+ which is obviously supposed to be blood even though males only drink plant juicesjuices.
30th Dec '15 10:26:19 AM Mario876
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** There is also a mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary +O which is supposed to to be blood even though males only drink plant juices

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** There is also a male mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary +O which is obviously supposed to to be blood even though males only drink plant juices
29th Dec '15 8:40:18 PM Mario876
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**There is also a mosquito in the bug bar that orders a Bloody Mary +O which is supposed to to be blood even though males only drink plant juices
16th Dec '15 6:18:54 AM RaustBD
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And in fairness, of course, it's not like playing this trope ''perfectly'' straight would be at all feasible, as accurately depicting insect society and values would be, put bluntly, ''obscenely creepy'', none of the characters would be remotely sympathetic, and it would probably come across to the uninformed viewer as a [[StrawFeminist nightmarishly overblown paranoid misogynistic conspiracy theory]], and even if the whole "breeding slaves" business were ignored, an entire society overtly built around strict gender roles would be hard to sell in modern times regardless of what gender is doing what. Still, the people at Hollywood are clever, they probably could figure ''something'' out.


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1st Dec '15 9:54:25 AM ratty
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It's a fact that throughout history, mammals including humans have dwelled in mostly patriarchal societies where the males are dominant and females are extremely fragile incubators. But Earth is a diverse place, and with such diversity, even Feminism has a chance to manifest as an actual process of biological life. In the parts of the insect world that are organized, [[LadyLand the females rule]] (the others are loners). In colonies, females -- or sometimes the genderless -- are the only ones who have any semblance of a life with a job and purpose and are responsible for all the work involved in running things, such as building, foraging, defending from outsiders, and most especially creating eggs for the continuation of the Swarm. The males? They are mindless drones who are programmed to only have sex and then die - or are eaten (or sometimes both). But that's not how it is in the human world... [[MenAreTheExpendableGender most of]] [[TheUnfairSex the time]], [[AllMenArePerverts anyway]].

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It's a fact that throughout history, mammals including humans have dwelled in mostly patriarchal societies where the males are dominant and females are extremely fragile incubators.primarily childrearers. But Earth is a diverse place, and with such diversity, even Feminism has a chance to manifest as an actual process of biological life. In the parts of the insect world that are organized, [[LadyLand the females rule]] (the others are loners). In colonies, females -- or sometimes the genderless -- are the only ones who have any semblance of a life with a job and purpose and are responsible for all the work involved in running things, such as building, foraging, defending from outsiders, and most especially creating eggs for the continuation of the Swarm. The males? They are mindless drones who are programmed to only have sex and then die - or are eaten (or sometimes both). But that's not how it is in the human world... [[MenAreTheExpendableGender most of]] [[TheUnfairSex the time]], [[AllMenArePerverts anyway]].
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