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* ''Series/{{MASH}}'':
** Major General Bartford Hamilton Steele from the episode "The General Flipped at Dawn". He is promoted at the end to boot, after dancing a jig to 'The Missisippi Mud' out of a court-martial. On rare occasions, his lookalike Potter showed signs of a crazy edge--but considering the camp he ran, he can be forgiven.
** Potter actually subverts it. For most of his first episode, he seems to be overly uptight, but then proves himself to simply be a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who needed to establish himself in a position of authority before getting close to his troops. His gruff nature and occasional apparently nutty idea comes partly from working in a unit where virtually everyone was a BunnyEarsLawyer, and partly from having SeenItAll.

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* ''Series/{{MASH}}'':
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''Series/{{MASH}}'': Major General Bartford Hamilton Steele from the episode "The General Flipped at Dawn". He is promoted at the end to boot, after dancing a jig to 'The Missisippi Mud' out of a court-martial. On rare occasions, his lookalike Potter showed signs of a crazy edge--but considering the camp he ran, he can be forgiven.
** Potter actually subverts it. For most of his first episode, he seems to be overly uptight, but then proves himself to simply be a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who needed to establish himself in a position of authority before getting close to his troops. His gruff nature and occasional apparently nutty idea comes partly from working in a unit where virtually everyone was a BunnyEarsLawyer, and partly from having SeenItAll.
forgiven.



** Not to mention Admiral Zelle [[spoiler: Undine Infiltrator]], Romulan Colonel Hakeev, and Chancellor J'mpok of the KDF. We also have a borderline case with Admiral T'Nae, though she typically makes up for it by being right. Averted with Admiral Quinn, Commander Naomi Wildman, Captain Kurland, Admiral D'Valk, all the Romulan Republic Admirals, and Admiral Zav Glasch Trem.

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** Not to mention Admiral Zelle [[spoiler: Undine Infiltrator]], Romulan Colonel Hakeev, and Chancellor J'mpok of the KDF. We also have a borderline case with Admiral T'Nae, though she typically makes up for it by being right. Averted with Admiral Quinn, Commander Naomi Wildman, Captain Kurland, Admiral D'Valk, all the Romulan Republic Admirals, and Admiral Zav Glasch Trem.
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In fictional military settings, the brass tend to be a bit unstable. Frequently they become so obsessed with their own pet projects that they endanger [[TheFederation national security]]. Other times their brazenness and/or [[GeneralRipper paranoia]] almost leads to wars breaking out between rival superpowers. They may be a ConspiracyTheorist with authority investigating the heroes, an ObstructiveBureaucrat making hell for the heroes, or they may be covering up for their own wrongdoings. These are the ones most likely to send the heroes on a dubious mission. They could be a GeneralRipper obsessed with the enemy, or they could be cowards who fear public exposure of their own wrongdoings.

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In fictional military settings, the brass tend to be a bit unstable. Frequently they become so obsessed with their own pet projects that they endanger [[TheFederation national security]]. security. Other times their brazenness and/or [[GeneralRipper paranoia]] paranoia almost leads to wars breaking out between rival superpowers. They may be a ConspiracyTheorist with authority investigating the heroes, an ObstructiveBureaucrat making hell for the heroes, or they may be covering up for their own wrongdoings. These are the ones most likely to send the heroes on a dubious mission. They could be a GeneralRipper obsessed with the enemy, or they could be cowards who fear public exposure of their own wrongdoings.



* [[GeneralRipper Admi]][[WeHaveReserves ral]] [[LackOfEmpathy Akainu]] in ''OnePiece''. Among other things, he destroys a boatload of civilians [[DisproportionateRetribution because one scholar might have slipped on board]], he's shown interest in buying and using [[WeaponOfMassDestruction the incredibly deadly weapons created by Caesar Clown]] in spite of the fact that they render entire islands uninhabitable, and [[WeHaveReserves forcing the soldiers at Marineford to keep fighting at the cost of their lives, even though their main objective had already been completed.]] [[spoiler:And then, to make it worse, he ends up working his way into the position of Fleet Admiral, meaning he's in charge of the entire Navy.]]

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* [[GeneralRipper Admi]][[WeHaveReserves ral]] [[LackOfEmpathy Akainu]] Admiral Akainu in ''OnePiece''. ''Manga/OnePiece''. Among other things, he destroys a boatload of civilians [[DisproportionateRetribution because one scholar might have slipped on board]], board, he's shown interest in buying and using [[WeaponOfMassDestruction the incredibly deadly weapons created by Caesar Clown]] Clown in spite of the fact that they render entire islands uninhabitable, and [[WeHaveReserves forcing the soldiers at Marineford to keep fighting at the cost of their lives, even though their main objective had already been completed.]] completed. [[spoiler:And then, to make it worse, he ends up working his way into the position of Fleet Admiral, meaning he's in charge of the entire Navy.]]



** Gihren Zabi of the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam''. He's Zeon's commander-in-chief, a brilliant [[RousingSpeech public speaker]] and the [[DragonInChief real power]] behind his [[PuppetKing aging father]], [[NonActionBigBad Sovereign Degwin]]. He's also a [[TakeOverTheWorld megalomaniacal]] [[TheSociopath psychopath]] and SocialDarwinist with a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[MasterRace philosophy]] and a limited grasp of what it means to be a human being. This causes him to commit a number of tactical errors later in the series, and he adopts a very "Hitler in the bunker" type attitude by the end.
*** Char Aznable doesn't start out as one of these. In fact, it would be fair to say that in ''MSG'' he's about as rational as a man plotting the deaths of all his superiors can be. By the time ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack'' rolls around, however, this is no longer the case. Totally out of touch with the rest of humanity, and drunk on his own political ideology, he attempts to [[ColonyDrop drop a meteor on the Earth]] claiming that this will somehow bring about [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans world peace]]. Privately, he admits that he's "extremely wicked" and is endangering the world solely so that he can gain revenge on [[TheHero Amuro]], and appease the memory of his late LoveInterest, Lalah Sune.
*** Zeon Rear-Admiral Ginias Sahalin of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamThe08thMSTeam'' is no picture of mental health. The head of the Apsalus project, his MommyIssues, combined with his obsessive need to control his sister and claim all the credit for the project cause his mind to degenrate over the course of the series. By the end he's an AxeCrazy maniac who is ready to murder everyone around him, including his sister and all of his researchers, if it means that he gains sole control of the Apsalus III. This, combined with his IllBoy status, has caused some fans to speculate that he has Wilson's Disease, a degenerative neurological condition that often causes schizophrenia-like symptoms.
*** There is something in the water at the Zeon command centre. Gihren loyalist [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Colonel Killing]] from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket'' murders his commanding officer and usurps his position, orders a nuclear strike on a colony, and cares nothing for his own troops, deliberately sabotaging a mission in order to gain permission for his nuclear attack.
** [[TakeOverTheWorld Jamitov Hymem]] and [[ShellShockedVeteran Bask Om]] from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' are respectively the [[BigBad commander]] and [[TheDragon field leader]] of the [[StateSec Titans]], the Earth Federation security force that occupies the colonies. Jamitov is an admiral with [[SmugSnake delusions of grandeur]] who seeks to gain control of the entire Earth Sphere for himself and plots against civillian leaders and the rest of the brass. Bask is a ColonelKilgore and GeneralRipper with a fanatical loathing of all colonials, which stems from [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil his time being tortured in a POW camp during the One Year War]]. His hatred and brutality are so extreme that [[AxeCrazy madness]] is really the only explanation that works.
** Patrick Zala of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' is an utterly paranoid and psychotic GeneralRipper, with both AbusiveParents and [[FinalSolution genocidal]] tendencies, who wants to exterminate every [[PunyEarthlings Natural]] in existence in {{Revenge}} for an attack on a ZAFT colony. His right-hand man, Commander [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Rau]] [[BrokenAce Le]] [[NietzscheWannabe Creuset]] is [[spoiler:[[MisanthropeSupreme even worse]], being an OmnicidalManiac who's out to get everyone on ''both'' sides killed]]. On the opposing side, we have Captain William Sutherland of the Earth Forces [[ObstructiveBureaucrat General Staff]], who masterminds the use of the [[WeaponsOfMassDestruction Cyclops]] system against his own men, authorises the use of [[NukeEm nuclear weapons]] against ZAFT, serves as [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Muruta Azrael's]] [[TheDragon Dragon]], and is a card-carrying member of [[FantasticRacism Blue Cosmos]], a hate group that seeks the deaths of every last [[GattacaBabies Coordinator]].

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** Gihren Zabi of the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam''. He's Zeon's commander-in-chief, a brilliant [[RousingSpeech public speaker]] speaker and the [[DragonInChief real power]] power behind his [[PuppetKing aging father]], [[NonActionBigBad father, Sovereign Degwin]]. Degwin. He's also a [[TakeOverTheWorld megalomaniacal]] [[TheSociopath psychopath]] megalomaniacal psychopath and SocialDarwinist with a [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascist]] [[MasterRace philosophy]] fascist philosophy and a limited grasp of what it means to be a human being. This causes him to commit a number of tactical errors later in the series, and he adopts a very "Hitler in the bunker" type attitude by the end.
*** Char Aznable doesn't start out as one of these. In fact, it would be fair to say that in ''MSG'' he's about as rational as a man plotting the deaths of all his superiors can be. By the time ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack'' rolls around, however, this is no longer the case. Totally out of touch with the rest of humanity, and drunk on his own political ideology, he attempts to [[ColonyDrop drop a meteor on the Earth]] Earth claiming that this will somehow bring about [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans world peace]]. peace. Privately, he admits that he's "extremely wicked" and is endangering the world solely so that he can gain revenge on [[TheHero Amuro]], Amuro, and appease the memory of his late LoveInterest, Lalah Sune.
*** Zeon Rear-Admiral Ginias Sahalin of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamThe08thMSTeam'' is no picture of mental health. The head of the Apsalus project, his MommyIssues, combined with his obsessive need to control his sister and claim all the credit for the project cause causes his mind to degenrate denigrate over the course of the series. By the end he's an AxeCrazy maniac who is ready to murder everyone around him, including his sister and all of his researchers, if it means that he gains sole control of the Apsalus III. This, combined with his IllBoy status, has caused some fans to speculate that he has Wilson's Disease, a degenerative neurological condition that often causes schizophrenia-like symptoms.
*** There is something in the water at the Zeon command centre. Gihren loyalist [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Colonel Killing]] Killing from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket'' murders his commanding officer and usurps his position, orders a nuclear strike on a colony, and cares nothing for his own troops, deliberately sabotaging a mission in order to gain permission for his nuclear attack.
** [[TakeOverTheWorld Jamitov Hymem]] Hymem and [[ShellShockedVeteran Bask Om]] Om from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' are respectively the [[BigBad commander]] commander and [[TheDragon field leader]] leader of the [[StateSec Titans]], Titans, the Earth Federation security force that occupies the colonies. Jamitov is an admiral with [[SmugSnake delusions {{delusions of grandeur]] grandeur}} who seeks to gain control of the entire Earth Sphere for himself and plots against civillian civilian leaders and the rest of the brass. Bask is a ColonelKilgore and GeneralRipper with a fanatical loathing of all colonials, which stems from [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil his time being tortured in a POW camp during the One Year War]]. War. His hatred and brutality are so extreme that [[AxeCrazy madness]] madness is really the only explanation that works.
** Patrick Zala of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' is an utterly paranoid and psychotic GeneralRipper, with both AbusiveParents and [[FinalSolution genocidal]] genocidal tendencies, who wants to exterminate every [[PunyEarthlings Natural]] Natural in existence in {{Revenge}} for an attack on a ZAFT colony. His right-hand man, Commander [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Rau]] [[BrokenAce Le]] [[NietzscheWannabe Creuset]] Rau Le Creuset is [[spoiler:[[MisanthropeSupreme even worse]], [[spoiler:even worse, being an OmnicidalManiac who's out to get everyone on ''both'' sides killed]]. On the opposing side, we have Captain William Sutherland of the Earth Forces [[ObstructiveBureaucrat General Staff]], Staff, who masterminds the use of the [[WeaponsOfMassDestruction Cyclops]] Cyclops system against his own men, authorises the use of [[NukeEm nuclear weapons]] weapons against ZAFT, serves as [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Muruta Azrael's]] [[TheDragon Dragon]], Azrael's Dragon, and is a card-carrying member of [[FantasticRacism Blue Cosmos]], Cosmos, a hate group that seeks the deaths of every last [[GattacaBabies Coordinator]].Coordinator.



* Some of it is cultural differences but even by [[LightNovel/CrestOfTheStars Abh]] standards some of their admirals are a little off their rockers. Specifically Admiral Spoor who rejoices in the [[TheRedBaron nickname]] 'The Lady of Chaos' and Admiral Bibauth who is desperately trying to distance himself from the family nickname 'The Beautiful Madness' and in the process making himself look even worse. They are fortunately both fairly competent and aided by competent subordinates but definitely considered rather eccentric.

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* Some of it is cultural differences but even by [[LightNovel/CrestOfTheStars Abh]] standards some of their the admirals in ''LightNovel/CrestOfTheStars'' are a little off their rockers. Specifically Admiral Spoor who rejoices in the [[TheRedBaron nickname]] nickname 'The Lady of Chaos' and Admiral Bibauth who is desperately trying to distance himself from the family nickname 'The Beautiful Madness' and in the process making himself look even worse. They are fortunately both fairly competent and aided by competent subordinates but definitely considered rather eccentric.



* [[FanFic/GameOfTouhou Ser Mononobe Futo]] uses wildfire to strike Murasa's fleet (who herself launches anchors from trebuchets). Due to the highly explosive nature of [[MeaningfulName wildfire]], she [[PyrrhicVictory destroys the opposing fleet and most of her own fleet]], [[spoiler:and she's rescued by [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Gengetsu]].]]

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* [[FanFic/GameOfTouhou Ser Mononobe Futo]] uses wildfire to strike Murasa's fleet (who herself launches anchors from trebuchets). Due to the highly explosive nature of [[MeaningfulName wildfire]], wildfire, she [[PyrrhicVictory destroys the opposing fleet and most of her own fleet]], fleet, [[spoiler:and she's rescued by [[ThisIsGonnaSuck Gengetsu]].]]



* Colonel Kurtz in ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' goes AWOL and attempts to set himself up as [[AGodAmI a god]] among a group of locals.

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* Colonel Kurtz in ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' goes AWOL and attempts to set himself up as [[AGodAmI a god]] god among a group of locals.



* Played for laughs with retired Admiral Boom in ''Film/MaryPoppins'' as he likes to fire a cannon off the roof of his home in suburban London every morning.

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* Played for laughs with retired Admiral Boom in ''Film/MaryPoppins'' as he likes to fire off a cannon off every morning from the roof of his home in suburban London every morning.London.



** Most of the various Warlords that broke away from the Empire following the Emperor's death in ROTJ tended to be a bit extra crazy as well. A bunch of them get out crazied by Daala who gets them all to a peace summit and then gases them to death when they can't come together to present a unified front. [[spoiler:ironically, this ends up ensuring the [[VestigialEmpire Imperial Remnant]]'s survival, as by the end of that particular crisis its leadership ends up in the hands of Admiral Pellaeon, the Imperial OnlySaneMan ''par excellence''.]]

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** Most of the various Warlords that broke away from the Empire following the Emperor's death in ROTJ tended to be a bit extra crazy as well. A bunch of them get out crazied by Daala who gets them all to a peace summit and then gases them to death when they can't come together to present a unified front. [[spoiler:ironically, this ends up ensuring the [[VestigialEmpire Imperial Remnant]]'s Remnant's survival, as by the end of that particular crisis its leadership ends up in the hands of Admiral Pellaeon, the Imperial OnlySaneMan ''par excellence''.]]



* ''Literature/TheDrownedCities'': Colonel Glenn Stern of the United Patriotic Front is a KnightTemplar madman who believes he is saving America (something he barely understands the concept of) by chopping off the hands and feet of those he takes prisoner, and turning children into [[ChildSoldiers soldier boys]]. His archrival, General Sachs of the Army of God is implied to be just as crazy, as are the leaders of Taylor's Wolves, Tulane Company, the Freedom Militia, and all the other groups in the story.
* This is the default mindset for [[AlienInvasion Yeerk]] Vissers in ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'', most of whom are shown to be motivated more by their personal agendas rather than military objectives. The standout is Visser Three [[spoiler:(later Visser One)]], the BigBad of the entire series. A dim-witted egomaniac with an unquenchable thirst for violence and a questionable grip on reality, Visser Three finds every excuse he can to butcher his own subordinates, spends the rest of his time playing politics with his superiors, and reacts to defeat like an angry child. His fanatical subordinate, Visser Two, is even ''[[UpToEleven more]]'' crazed, if that's possible to imagine. He also gets bonus points for taking an actual admiral as his host.

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* ''Literature/TheDrownedCities'': Colonel Glenn Stern of the United Patriotic Front is a KnightTemplar madman who believes he is saving America (something he barely understands the concept of) by chopping off the hands and feet of those he takes prisoner, and turning children into [[ChildSoldiers soldier boys]].ChildSoldiers. His archrival, General Sachs of the Army of God is implied to be just as crazy, as are the leaders of Taylor's Wolves, Tulane Company, the Freedom Militia, and all the other groups in the story.
* This is the default mindset for [[AlienInvasion Yeerk]] Yeerk Vissers in ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'', most of whom are shown to be motivated more by their personal agendas rather than military objectives. The standout is Visser Three [[spoiler:(later Visser One)]], the BigBad of the entire series. A dim-witted egomaniac with an unquenchable thirst for violence and a questionable grip on reality, Visser Three finds every excuse he can to butcher his own subordinates, spends the rest of his time playing politics with his superiors, and reacts to defeat like an angry child. His fanatical subordinate, Visser Two, is even ''[[UpToEleven more]]'' ''more'' crazed, if that's possible to imagine. He also gets bonus points for taking an actual admiral as his host.



* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' series, the Solarian League Navy is an entire ''navy'' of this. It... [[CurbStompBattle doesn't end well for them]]. ''[[VillainForgotToLevelGrind Repeatedly]].''

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* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' series, the Solarian League Navy is an entire ''navy'' of this. It... [[CurbStompBattle doesn't end well for them]]. ''[[VillainForgotToLevelGrind Repeatedly]].them. ''Repeatedly.''



* ''Series/TheAmazingExtraordinaryFriends'': [[PunnyName General Quarters]] in "Attack of the Atomic Bombshell", who sees nothing wrong with planning to nuke City Central to stop the Bombshell. Leads to this exchange:

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* ''Series/TheAmazingExtraordinaryFriends'': [[PunnyName General Quarters]] Quarters in "Attack of the Atomic Bombshell", who sees nothing wrong with planning to nuke City Central to stop the Bombshell. Leads to this exchange:



%%* ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' (2000's): Admiral Cain, of course.

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%%* ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' (2000's): ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'': Admiral Cain, of course.



* ''Series/HoratioHornblower'': Captain Sawyer from this MiniSeries [[FilmOfTheBook adaptation]]. His case is PlayedForDrama. He starts as viciously critical and unjust, continues to be extremely paranoid and ends up genuinely mad. His lieutenants are in an unenviable position, especially when the ship's surgeon is Captain's friend, [[TheAlcoholic an alcoholic]] and unwilling to pronounce him unfit for command. Whatever steps they consider to take would be ultimately a mutiny.

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* ''Series/HoratioHornblower'': Captain Sawyer from this MiniSeries [[FilmOfTheBook adaptation]].adaptation. His case is PlayedForDrama. He starts as viciously critical and unjust, continues to be extremely paranoid and ends up genuinely mad. His lieutenants are in an unenviable position, especially when the ship's surgeon is Captain's friend, [[TheAlcoholic an alcoholic]] alcoholic and unwilling to pronounce him unfit for command. Whatever steps they consider to take would be ultimately a mutiny.



** Potter actually subverts it. For most of his first episode, [[TyrantTakesTheHelm he seems to be overly uptight]], but then proves himself to simply be a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who needed to establish himself in a position of authority before [[FatherToHisMen getting close to his troops]]. His gruff nature and occasional apparently nutty idea comes partly from working in a unit where virtually everyone was a BunnyEarsLawyer, and partly from having SeenItAll.

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** Potter actually subverts it. For most of his first episode, [[TyrantTakesTheHelm he seems to be overly uptight]], uptight, but then proves himself to simply be a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who needed to establish himself in a position of authority before [[FatherToHisMen getting close to his troops]].troops. His gruff nature and occasional apparently nutty idea comes partly from working in a unit where virtually everyone was a BunnyEarsLawyer, and partly from having SeenItAll.



* ''Series/{{Revolution}}'': Bass Monroe in turns this UpToEleven as an unhinged ''military dictator'' of the Monroe Republic (formerly the northeastern US and parts of Canada). As the show goes on, it becomes a DeconstructedTrope, with loyal officers [[spoiler: Mile Matheson (revealed to have been one in [[Recap/RevolutionS1E3NoQuarter episode 3]]) and Tom Neville (occurred in [[Recap/RevolutionS1E13TheSongRemainsTheSame episode 13]])]] betraying him, because he would have had them killed. His paranoia and insanity causes a lot of competent officers to be killed off, including [[spoiler: Colonel John Faber ([[Recap/RevolutionS1E8TiesThatBind episode 8]]), a militia captain who worked under Neville ([[Recap/RevolutionS1E14TheNightTheLightsWentOutInGeorgia episode 14]]), and Jeremy Baker]], who calls him out on his behaviour before his death in [[Recap/RevolutionS1E17TheLongestDay episode 17]]. In fact, by the [[Recap/RevolutionS1E20TheDarkTower first season finale]], [[spoiler: Tom Neville takes over the Monroe Republic and Bass Monroe is left to run off on his own]].
* ''Series/{{Sharpe}}'': This trope tends to turn up in this series, probably the most extreme (although far from unique) example from that series is Sir Henry Simmerson.

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* ''Series/{{Revolution}}'': Bass Monroe in turns this UpToEleven is as an unhinged ''military dictator'' military dictator of the Monroe Republic (formerly the northeastern US and parts of Canada). As the show goes on, it becomes a DeconstructedTrope, with loyal officers [[spoiler: Mile Matheson (revealed to have been one in [[Recap/RevolutionS1E3NoQuarter episode 3]]) No Quarter]]) and Tom Neville (occurred in [[Recap/RevolutionS1E13TheSongRemainsTheSame episode 13]])]] The Song Remains the Same]])]] betraying him, because he would have had them killed. His paranoia and insanity causes a lot of competent officers to be killed off, including [[spoiler: Colonel John Faber ([[Recap/RevolutionS1E8TiesThatBind episode 8]]), Ties That Bind]]), a militia captain who worked under Neville ([[Recap/RevolutionS1E14TheNightTheLightsWentOutInGeorgia episode 14]]), The Night the Lights Went Out In Georgia]]), and Jeremy Baker]], who calls him out on his behaviour before his death in [[Recap/RevolutionS1E17TheLongestDay episode 17]]. The Longest Day]]. In fact, by the [[Recap/RevolutionS1E20TheDarkTower first season finale]], The Dark Tower]], [[spoiler: Tom Neville takes over the Monroe Republic and Bass Monroe is left to run off on his own]].
* %%* ''Series/{{Sharpe}}'': This trope tends to turn up in this series, probably the most extreme (although far from unique) example from that series is Sir Henry Simmerson.



*** "The Doomsday Machine" - Commodore Matt Decker is [[DespairEventHorizon driven mad]] after watching the titular machine kill his entire crew, and commandeers the Enterprise in a vain attempt to destroy it. When that proves unsuccessful, he commits suicide, flying a shuttlecraft into it. That was an attempted TakingYouWithMe though.

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*** "The Doomsday Machine" - Commodore Matt Decker is [[DespairEventHorizon driven mad]] mad after watching the titular machine kill his entire crew, and commandeers the Enterprise in a vain attempt to destroy it. When that proves unsuccessful, he commits suicide, flying a shuttlecraft into it. That was an attempted TakingYouWithMe though.



--->'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2014/08/tng-season-five.html Joe Ford]]''': As soon as Admiral Brackett beams onto the ''Enterprise'', Picard should clap her in irons. I dont think hes ever met an Admiral that isnt corrupt in some way and he should nip her plans in the bud before she has a chance to put them in motion. Ohshes as innocent as she seems? [[NotMeThisTime Egg on my face.]]

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--->'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2014/08/tng-season-five.html Joe Ford]]''': As soon as Admiral Brackett beams onto the ''Enterprise'', Picard should clap her in irons. I dont think hes ever met an Admiral that isnt corrupt in some way and he should nip her plans in the bud before she has a chance to put them in motion. Ohshes Oh... shes as innocent as she seems? [[NotMeThisTime Egg on my face.]]



*** Admiral Leyton convinces the Federation President to declare martial law on Earth, carefully maneuvering his way into launching a coup. He is the KnightTemplar GeneralRipper type. This even includes [[LetsYouAndHimFight setting up two starships to fight each other]] to keep one of them from [[HeKnowsTooMuch exposing him]].

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*** Admiral Leyton convinces the Federation President to declare martial law on Earth, carefully maneuvering his way into launching a coup. He is the KnightTemplar GeneralRipper type. This even includes [[LetsYouAndHimFight setting up two starships to fight each other]] other to keep one of them from [[HeKnowsTooMuch exposing him]].him]



*** [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Admiral Bill Ross]] in the later seasons presents Star Fleet's brass in a better light. As a big part of the Dominion War Arc, he practically becomes part of the Deep Space Nine crew, and the audience gets to know and trust him. And yet, even Ross is not above [[spoiler: collaborating with Section 31, a black ops organization that defends the Federation by betraying everything it claims to hold dear]].
** ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': Even [[IHatePastMe future Admiral Janeway]] gets into this in the GrandFinale, pulling an extremely risky bit of history-rewriting to ensure everyone gets home.
* ''Series/TheLastShip'' has Season 1 BigBad [[RenegadeRussian Admiral Konstantin Ruskov]], who has delusions of using the cure for the [[ThePlague Red Flu]] to create a new world order, and has no problem shooting his own men to make a point. He even forces his XO -- his own brother -- to be a guinea pig for the cure at gunpoint, even when there's a good chance it won't work and he'll die.

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*** [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Admiral Bill Ross]] Ross in the later seasons presents Star Fleet's brass in a better light. As a big part of the Dominion War Arc, he practically becomes part of the Deep Space Nine crew, and the audience gets to know and trust him. And yet, even Ross is not above [[spoiler: collaborating with Section 31, a black ops organization that defends the Federation by betraying everything it claims to hold dear]].
** ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': Even [[IHatePastMe future Admiral Janeway]] Janeway gets into this in the GrandFinale, pulling an extremely risky bit of history-rewriting to ensure everyone gets home.
* ''Series/TheLastShip'' has Season 1 BigBad [[RenegadeRussian Admiral Konstantin Ruskov]], Ruskov, who has delusions of using the cure for the [[ThePlague Red Flu]] Flu to create a new world order, and has no problem shooting his own men to make a point. He even forces his XO -- his own brother -- to be a guinea pig for the cure at gunpoint, even when there's a good chance it won't work and he'll die.



* PlayedForLaughs in ''Radio/TheNavyLark'' with a parade of insane Vice-Admirals, and Commodores over the years. However, the actual [[EveryonecallsHimBarkeep Admiral]] in charge, while being a bit out of date and overbearing, was more often than not a BenevolentBoss and on more than one occasion the OnlySaneMan.

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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Radio/TheNavyLark'' with a parade of insane Vice-Admirals, Vice-Admirals and Commodores over the years. However, the actual [[EveryonecallsHimBarkeep Admiral]] Admiral in charge, while being a bit out of date and overbearing, was more often than not a BenevolentBoss and on more than one occasion the OnlySaneMan.



* Szuriel, Horseman of War, and Angel of Desolation is what happens when you combine the worst traits of a GeneralRipper and a ColonelKilgore with PsychoForHire, WeHaveReserves, WarGod and [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils Archdaemon]]. It isn't pretty.

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* Szuriel, Horseman of War, and Angel of Desolation is what happens when you combine the worst traits of a GeneralRipper and a ColonelKilgore with PsychoForHire, WeHaveReserves, WarGod and [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils Archdaemon]].DemonLordsAndArchdevils. It isn't pretty.



* The Valuan admiralty of ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'' has a problem with this. Admirals Galcian, Ramirez, and [[MeaningfulName De Loco]] are all nuts (and evil), while Alfonso is incompetent (and evil) and Vigoro is... eccentric (and not so much evil as amoral). Small wonder the only two competent, sane admirals come off as the sympathetic villains of the lot...

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* The Valuan admiralty of ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'' has a problem with this. Admirals Galcian, Ramirez, and [[MeaningfulName De Loco]] Loco are all nuts (and evil), while Alfonso is incompetent (and evil) and Vigoro is... eccentric (and not so much evil as amoral). Small wonder the only two competent, sane admirals come off as the sympathetic villains of the lot...



** Not to mention Admiral Zelle [[spoiler: Undine Infiltrator]], [[DiskOneFinalBoss Romulan Colonel Hakeev,]] and [[TheEmperor Chancellor J'mpok]] of the KDF. We also have a borderline case with [[BloodKnight Admiral T'Nae,]] [[StrawmanHasAPoint though she typically makes up for it by being right.]] [[AvertedTrope Averted]] with [[BigGood Admiral Quinn,]] [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Commander Naomi Wildman,]] [[FailureHero Captain Kurland,]] [[TheWorfEffect Admiral]] [[FourStarBadass D'Valk,]] [[DefectorFromDecadence all the Romulan Republic Admirals]], and [[SacrificialLion Admiral Zav Glasch Trem.]]

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** Not to mention Admiral Zelle [[spoiler: Undine Infiltrator]], [[DiskOneFinalBoss Romulan Colonel Hakeev,]] Hakeev, and [[TheEmperor Chancellor J'mpok]] J'mpok of the KDF. We also have a borderline case with [[BloodKnight Admiral T'Nae,]] [[StrawmanHasAPoint T'Nae, though she typically makes up for it by being right.]] [[AvertedTrope Averted]] right. Averted with [[BigGood Admiral Quinn,]] [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Quinn, Commander Naomi Wildman,]] [[FailureHero Wildman, Captain Kurland,]] [[TheWorfEffect Admiral]] [[FourStarBadass D'Valk,]] [[DefectorFromDecadence Kurland, Admiral D'Valk, all the Romulan Republic Admirals]], Admirals, and [[SacrificialLion Admiral Zav Glasch Trem.]]



* You can [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential become one]] in ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'', farming Isuzu, grab her radar units once you [[FatteningTheVictim raised her enough]] and feed her to other ships over and over again? Checked. Disassembling or feeding on your fleet girls when she's not the one you wanted or got bored of her? Checked. If you are harsh enough, you can tire your ships under enemy fire just to risk their lives for victories. Your main ship / secretary ship cannot be sunk. And other ships? When they are sunk, they are KilledOffForReal. And don't forget they are [[MoeAnthropomorphism little girls]].

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* You can [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential become one]] one in ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'', farming Isuzu, grab her radar units once you [[FatteningTheVictim raised her enough]] enough and feed her to other ships over and over again? Checked. Disassembling or feeding on your fleet girls when she's not the one you wanted or got bored of her? Checked. If you are harsh enough, you can tire your ships under enemy fire just to risk their lives for victories. Your main ship / secretary ship cannot be sunk. And other ships? When they are sunk, they are KilledOffForReal. And don't forget they are [[MoeAnthropomorphism little girls]].girls.



* Admiral Zhao from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. [[OmnicidalManiac He tried to kill the moon]], for crying out loud.
** Give him some credit, he ''successfully'' [[ItMakesSenseInContext killed the moon.]] Which does not mean it was a good idea or anything.

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* Admiral Zhao from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. [[OmnicidalManiac He tried to kill the moon]], moon, for crying out loud.
** Give him some credit, he ''successfully'' [[ItMakesSenseInContext killed the moon.]] moon. Which does not mean it was a good idea or anything.



* 25-star general Zapp Brannigan from ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}''. Who starts wars with non violent races, or backstabing people while pretending to make peace.

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* 25-star general Zapp Brannigan from ''{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}}''. Who starts wars with non violent races, or backstabing backstabbing people while pretending to make peace.
1st Jul '16 11:23:03 AM maxwellsilver
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->"''I'm proud to say I've written another insane admiral. They must put something in the water at [[Franchise/StarTrek Federation Headquarters.]]''"

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->"''I'm proud to say I've written another insane admiral. They must put something in the water at [[Franchise/StarTrek Federation Headquarters.]]''"''"
21st Jun '16 4:38:37 AM Mhazard
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* You can [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential become one]] in ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'', farming Isuzu, grab her radar units one you [[FatteningTheVictim raised her enough]] and feed her to other ships over and over again? Checked. Disassembling or feeding on your fleet girls when she's not the one you wanted or got bored of her? Checked. If you are harsh enough, you can tire your ships under enemy fire just to risk their lives for victories. Your main ship / secretary ship cannot be sunk. And other ships? When they are sunk, they are KilledOffForReal. And don't forget they are [[MoeAnthropomorphism little girls]].

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* You can [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential become one]] in ''VideoGame/KantaiCollection'', farming Isuzu, grab her radar units one once you [[FatteningTheVictim raised her enough]] and feed her to other ships over and over again? Checked. Disassembling or feeding on your fleet girls when she's not the one you wanted or got bored of her? Checked. If you are harsh enough, you can tire your ships under enemy fire just to risk their lives for victories. Your main ship / secretary ship cannot be sunk. And other ships? When they are sunk, they are KilledOffForReal. And don't forget they are [[MoeAnthropomorphism little girls]].
2nd Jun '16 1:35:28 AM morane
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Note that this trope is ''strongly'' averted in RealLife armed forces, especially in democratic countries. Mentally unstable officers jeopardize lives of thousands of soldiers, and pose a heavy risk on the success of the operations themselves. Mentally unstable officers are usually quickly transferred to non-combat positions or forced on early retirement.
17th May '16 11:57:53 PM Morgenthaler
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** Patrick Zala of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' is an utterly paranoid and psychotic GeneralRipper, with both WhatTheHellDad and [[FinalSolution genocidal]] tendencies, who wants to exterminate every [[PunyEarthlings Natural]] in existence in {{Revenge}} for an attack on a ZAFT colony. His right-hand man, Commander [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Rau]] [[BrokenAce Le]] [[NietzscheWannabe Creuset]] is [[spoiler:[[MisanthropeSupreme even worse]], being an OmnicidalManiac who's out to get everyone on ''both'' sides killed]]. On the opposing side, we have Captain William Sutherland of the Earth Forces [[ObstructiveBureaucrat General Staff]], who masterminds the use of the [[WeaponsOfMassDestruction Cyclops]] system against his own men, authorises the use of [[NukeEm nuclear weapons]] against ZAFT, serves as [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Muruta Azrael's]] [[TheDragon Dragon]], and is a card-carrying member of [[FantasticRacism Blue Cosmos]], a hate group that seeks the deaths of every last [[GattacaBabies Coordinator]].

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** Patrick Zala of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' is an utterly paranoid and psychotic GeneralRipper, with both WhatTheHellDad AbusiveParents and [[FinalSolution genocidal]] tendencies, who wants to exterminate every [[PunyEarthlings Natural]] in existence in {{Revenge}} for an attack on a ZAFT colony. His right-hand man, Commander [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Rau]] [[BrokenAce Le]] [[NietzscheWannabe Creuset]] is [[spoiler:[[MisanthropeSupreme even worse]], being an OmnicidalManiac who's out to get everyone on ''both'' sides killed]]. On the opposing side, we have Captain William Sutherland of the Earth Forces [[ObstructiveBureaucrat General Staff]], who masterminds the use of the [[WeaponsOfMassDestruction Cyclops]] system against his own men, authorises the use of [[NukeEm nuclear weapons]] against ZAFT, serves as [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Muruta Azrael's]] [[TheDragon Dragon]], and is a card-carrying member of [[FantasticRacism Blue Cosmos]], a hate group that seeks the deaths of every last [[GattacaBabies Coordinator]].
14th May '16 2:39:47 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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%%* General Patton in Creator/HarryTurtledove's {{Timeline-191}} series

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%%* General Patton in Creator/HarryTurtledove's {{Timeline-191}} Literature/Timeline191 series
5th May '16 8:50:53 AM cdrood
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* Admiral Rittenhouse in the Star Trek novel, Dreadnought!. He commissioned the titular warship and named it Star Empire, and if that doesn't tell you where he stood on things, nothing will. His goal was to protect the Federation from its enemies was to overthrow the civilian government and establish a military dictatorship. It was so bad for Starfleet's reputation, that a later novel by the same author used it as a major reason Kirk was more or less forced to accept promotion to Admiral as he was something of a living legend by the end of the five year mission.
27th Apr '16 5:36:28 PM Brainbin
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*** "The Deadly Years" - With Kirk and the rest of the Enterprise senior staff incapacitated, Commodore Stocker (who wears a red shirt, indicating he's a flag officer from the ''operations'' division) takes command of the ''Enterprise'', despite explicitly having no command experience whatsoever, and orders the ship into the Romulan Neutral Zone, in violation of treaty and against Starfleet regulations. The Romulans immediately attack the ''Enterprise'', to the surprise of nobody but himself, and Sulu, Uhura, and even ''Chekov'' (a greenhorn ensign who's only been on the bridge for half a season) all express exasperation at his complete inability to deal with the situation, indicating that any of them would have done better at the conn than he did.

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*** "The Deadly Years" - With Kirk and the rest of the Enterprise senior staff incapacitated, Commodore Stocker (who wears a red shirt, indicating he's a flag officer from the ''operations'' division) takes command of the ''Enterprise'', despite explicitly having no command experience whatsoever, and orders the ship into the Romulan Neutral Zone, in violation of treaty and against Starfleet regulations. The Romulans immediately attack the ''Enterprise'', to the surprise of nobody but himself, and Sulu, Uhura, and even ''Chekov'' (a greenhorn ensign who's only been on the bridge for half a season) all express exasperation incredulity at his complete inability to deal with comprehend the situation, indicating that any of them would have done better at the conn than he did.
27th Apr '16 5:34:08 PM Brainbin
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*** "The Deadly Years" - With Kirk and the rest of the Enterprise senior staff incapacitated, Commodore Stocker takes command of the ''Enterprise'' and orders the ship into the Neutral Zone, against Star Fleet regulations.

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*** "The Deadly Years" - With Kirk and the rest of the Enterprise senior staff incapacitated, Commodore Stocker (who wears a red shirt, indicating he's a flag officer from the ''operations'' division) takes command of the ''Enterprise'' ''Enterprise'', despite explicitly having no command experience whatsoever, and orders the ship into the Romulan Neutral Zone, in violation of treaty and against Star Fleet regulations.Starfleet regulations. The Romulans immediately attack the ''Enterprise'', to the surprise of nobody but himself, and Sulu, Uhura, and even ''Chekov'' (a greenhorn ensign who's only been on the bridge for half a season) all express exasperation at his complete inability to deal with the situation, indicating that any of them would have done better at the conn than he did.
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